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T5 and T6 mats crashing?

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I won’t tell what i flip, but remember that putting stuff on the TP taks 15% of the price, and prices of mats don’t affect mats only, but alot of items. So that’s why i made this topic, to ask if they would recover, and what was causing the sudden drop. So 15% x2 (if i had to relist) plus the loss of 10% is alot.

The listing fee is 5% of the price, not 15%. There is an additional 10% fee when the item sells, for a total of 15%. But if you cancel an unsold listing there is no 10% fee because, well, the item didn’t sell.

If you list an item and it sells, you end up paying 15% in fees. If you list an item, cancel it, relist it at a slightly lower price and it sells, you pay approximately 20% in fees. Every unsold listing that you cancel costs 5% of the amount you listed at.

Unless you drop the price by a huge amount (like accidentally listing something at 1500g, cancelling it and relisting at 150g) the final percentage of the sale price you pay should be pretty close to (number of listings) x 5 + 10.

If you list at something close to the market price of an item, you shouldn’t need to constantly cancel and relist, that’s just impatience and it’s your own fault that you’re wasting your money doing it. Activity of players and demand for most items shifts throughout the day, and throughout the week, if you don’t get too greedy or get into it at the wrong end of a spike in demand due to hype, items should sell fairly quickly if you just list them and leave them alone.

Thanks for pointing that out. It’s not impatience, it’s because of a sudden drop in price, why i came to the forum and asked what was going on, and if it would recover.
Right now, it’s still more then two silver below the listed price of 48 hours ago.
Anyway, i see that the drop stopped and started rising a bit since i made this topic.

Again, i never said i am flipping mats. Dont assume something. Asking will get you further, like i did with this topic.

I won’t tell what i flip, but remember that putting stuff on the TP taks 15% of the price, and prices of mats don’t affect mats only, but alot of items. So that’s why i made this topic, to ask if they would recover, and what was causing the sudden drop. So 15% x2 (if i had to relist) plus the loss of 10% is alot.

Asking didnt bring me any further now, did it? tolunart already pointed out your math flaws and if dont even know the difference between a listing fee and sales tax, then come moaning on the forums about huge losses that you make, i think you deserve them.

Good luck forging precursors or whatever you are doing.

I already gave you answer, i do not flip mats.
I never had to relist items with this much gold involved, thats why i thought it all gets eaten by TP if you list it.
Anyway, i was pointing out that with a high volume of items, a 10% or more in a few days, is alot.
Why would you even respond in this topic if you think i deserve it, instead of posting with an additude.

T5 and T6 mats crashing?

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I hardly call a 10% drop in T6 prices as “crashing”. But supply is going up and I think that’s because T6 is now clearly the best conversion of Laurels to Gold since they raised the price of UniDye by 10×.

It is when you got a very large batch of items on the tp, just to find out prices have dropped more then 1 silver per item.

Someday I will get into the habit of reading the OP and not just the title.

So 24 hour dip?

Using GW2Spidy’s 24hr moving average. Last day.

Ancient Bone: 35.61s to 35.19s
Vicious Claw: 36.92s – 37.10s
Crystalline Dust: 17.75s – 17.87s
Vicious Fang: 34.85s – 34.76s
Armored Scale: 38.54s – 40.40s
Elaborate Totem: 26.04s – 27.97s
Powerful Venom Sac: 31.36s – 32.37s
Powerful Blood: 45.17s – 45.79s

Yeah, that’s a huge dropoff there, NOT. You do realize the price fluctuates quite a bit daily right?

It’s likely you looked after someone sold to highest bidder more mats than the bidder was looking to buy which drops the low sale price to the previous high bid for the remainder.

I am aiming for t5, and the prices dropped quite alot for the item i got on the TP because of this.

Maybe it’s not crashing in the normal terms, but that sudden drop was still happening.
Right now it seems like it stopped and it rised a little bit. If it didnt, i would lose 100s of gold for even putting stuff on the TP, so a 10% difference is ALOT.

To lose 100s of gold by a 10% drop on t5 mats means you are listing 1000s of gold worth of t5 mats. Flipping t5 mats was never profitable so you were speculating with these mats, i guess. Anticipating price shifts is a big part of speculating, so this time, you just lost out.

Again, i never said i am flipping mats. Dont assume something. Asking will get you further, like i did with this topic.

Well, how did you manage to acquire at least 1000g worth of t5 mats without buying them on the tp?
And as you havent replied to me directly in this topic yet, i wonder what your “Again” is based on.

I won’t tell what i flip, but remember that putting stuff on the TP taks 15% of the price, and prices of mats don’t affect mats only, but alot of items. So that’s why i made this topic, to ask if they would recover, and what was causing the sudden drop. So 15% x2 (if i had to relist) plus the loss of 10% is alot.

T5 and T6 mats crashing?

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I hardly call a 10% drop in T6 prices as “crashing”. But supply is going up and I think that’s because T6 is now clearly the best conversion of Laurels to Gold since they raised the price of UniDye by 10×.

It is when you got a very large batch of items on the tp, just to find out prices have dropped more then 1 silver per item.

Someday I will get into the habit of reading the OP and not just the title.

So 24 hour dip?

Using GW2Spidy’s 24hr moving average. Last day.

Ancient Bone: 35.61s to 35.19s
Vicious Claw: 36.92s – 37.10s
Crystalline Dust: 17.75s – 17.87s
Vicious Fang: 34.85s – 34.76s
Armored Scale: 38.54s – 40.40s
Elaborate Totem: 26.04s – 27.97s
Powerful Venom Sac: 31.36s – 32.37s
Powerful Blood: 45.17s – 45.79s

Yeah, that’s a huge dropoff there, NOT. You do realize the price fluctuates quite a bit daily right?

It’s likely you looked after someone sold to highest bidder more mats than the bidder was looking to buy which drops the low sale price to the previous high bid for the remainder.

I am aiming for t5, and the prices dropped quite alot for the item i got on the TP because of this.

Maybe it’s not crashing in the normal terms, but that sudden drop was still happening.
Right now it seems like it stopped and it rised a little bit. If it didnt, i would lose 100s of gold for even putting stuff on the TP, so a 10% difference is ALOT.

To lose 100s of gold by a 10% drop on t5 mats means you are listing 1000s of gold worth of t5 mats. Flipping t5 mats was never profitable so you were speculating with these mats, i guess. Anticipating price shifts is a big part of speculating, so this time, you just lost out.

Again, i never said i am flipping mats. Dont assume something. Asking will get you further, like i did with this topic.

T5 and T6 mats crashing?

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I hardly call a 10% drop in T6 prices as “crashing”. But supply is going up and I think that’s because T6 is now clearly the best conversion of Laurels to Gold since they raised the price of UniDye by 10×.

It is when you got a very large batch of items on the tp, just to find out prices have dropped more then 1 silver per item.

Someday I will get into the habit of reading the OP and not just the title.

So 24 hour dip?

Using GW2Spidy’s 24hr moving average. Last day.

Ancient Bone: 35.61s to 35.19s
Vicious Claw: 36.92s – 37.10s
Crystalline Dust: 17.75s – 17.87s
Vicious Fang: 34.85s – 34.76s
Armored Scale: 38.54s – 40.40s
Elaborate Totem: 26.04s – 27.97s
Powerful Venom Sac: 31.36s – 32.37s
Powerful Blood: 45.17s – 45.79s

Yeah, that’s a huge dropoff there, NOT. You do realize the price fluctuates quite a bit daily right?

It’s likely you looked after someone sold to highest bidder more mats than the bidder was looking to buy which drops the low sale price to the previous high bid for the remainder.

I am aiming for t5, and the prices dropped quite alot for the item i got on the TP because of this.

Maybe it’s not crashing in the normal terms, but that sudden drop was still happening.
Right now it seems like it stopped and it rised a little bit. If it didnt, i would lose 100s of gold for even putting stuff on the TP, so a 10% difference is ALOT.

T5 and T6 mats crashing?

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I hardly call a 10% drop in T6 prices as “crashing”. But supply is going up and I think that’s because T6 is now clearly the best conversion of Laurels to Gold since they raised the price of UniDye by 10×.

It is when you got a very large batch of items on the tp, just to find out prices have dropped more then 1 silver per item.

T5 and T6 mats crashing?

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Oh man, so i just lost a kitten load of gold because anet decided to recycle a massive farm event. Great, just great.

Thanks for the answer though.

T5 and T6 mats crashing?

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I noticed their prices are crashing overnight.

Do you guys think they will recover, because i already paid alot for the tp listing fee since 48 hours ago.

What is the fastest way to lvl?

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How to lvl in edge of the mists ? Like in other wvw map?

Just run with the zerg, it’s mostly PvE (killing champs and taking over stuff) and alot less PvP than in the other wvw maps.

What should I buy on the Gem Store?

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In my opinion everything that is part of the game should be in the game, not in some cash-shop. So when you get gems anyway I would only spend them on things that should not be in the game itself. Character slots or a name changer for example. I guess bank tabs are sort of oke. But it really depends on how you look towards it.

Anyway, that sort of things are really additions to the game and you don’t support taking elements that should be in the game out of the game and into the cash-shop.

Don’t call it a cash shop. You can get EVERYTHING in the gem store without spending a dime in real life.

You can become a doctor if you want to. You just have to go to medical school.

As a more-or-less WvW only player, the only thing of any use for me in the cash shop are the finishers. Let’s say I want the Whump Finisher. It costs 800 gems. That’s 76 gold by current exchange rate. Newsflash: WvW chests drop crap. 76 gold isn’t easy to come by on top of regular gear upgrades and food and other running expenses. 70+ is what I paid for my Traveler’s runes, and it was no small purchase for me.

Yes, they can all be purchased by grinding gold. I don’t argue with that. I do, however, take exception to the notion that the Gem Store isn’t a “cash shop”, because that is very clearly what it is intended to do: take cash from your wallet and put it into ANet’s. They wind up your desire/need to possess something, and then present it to you in two ways: you can either buy it with your allowance/life savings now, or you can submerge yourself in the tear-inducing boredom of the champ train and buy it much later.

Except that many promotional items can only be purchased during the short period of time they are available. The Grenth Hood was only available during the Wintersday event. If you didn’t have time then to grind up 47 gold, too bad. Could’ve bought it with your PayPal.

Just saying.

By your logic, you can call the TP a cash shop too, since gold can be bought with real money.

The only reason to buy gems with real money is to save time on w/e you want to buy, whether it be a legendary weapon or a finisher.

If you can’t cough up the gold for it, doesn’t take away the fact that it’s only intended for “cash” transactions. So why call it a cash shop when there are multiple ways to acquire the gems to buy anything in the gem store.

Sorry for the OT.

[SoS] Gamer's Giving Back - Legendary Raffle

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I have entered the giveaway!
On the website it still states NA servers only, i hope this is outdated info?

What should I buy on the Gem Store?

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In my opinion everything that is part of the game should be in the game, not in some cash-shop. So when you get gems anyway I would only spend them on things that should not be in the game itself. Character slots or a name changer for example. I guess bank tabs are sort of oke. But it really depends on how you look towards it.

Anyway, that sort of things are really additions to the game and you don’t support taking elements that should be in the game out of the game and into the cash-shop.

Don’t call it a cash shop. You can get EVERYTHING in the gem store without spending a dime in real life.

Wardrobe system+Future of legendaries

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I wont buy any skins from gem shop. It doesnt feel like I earned them if I use gems for them.

This is pretty ignorant.
What is the difference? Buying an item with gold or buying gems with gold to buy an item.

And if this makes you happy, people can convert their gems to gold paid with rl money too, so you are never sure if that player farmed a few hundered hours, or used their real money to buy anything ingame.

Lost Shores Compensation What Did You Get?

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Nothing at all! while they give people that didnt even play a reward i got screwed over 2 times.
Thanks arenanet!

A response would be nice

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I submitted a ticket when it happened.
These are the responds i got. Thanks for responding so fast arenanet! Less than one day =D

Response Via Email (GM Serendipity) 11/20/2012 04:12 AM
Hey everyone!

I just wanted to take a moment to let you all know that we are still investigating this issue for you. As Martin Kerstein said in his original post on the forums (https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Disconnect-at-the-end-of-Lost-Shores-Event-Read-this) about the disconnections, “We will implement a solution so that people who participated will get their rewards, but this takes work on our end.” It might take some time, but we will make sure to update you as soon as we have more information to provide. Thank you for your continued patience and for your support of Guild Wars 2.

Kindest Regards,

GM Serendipity
Guild Wars Support Team
http://support.guildwars2.com/
Response Via Email (David) 11/18/2012 11:56 PM
Hello,

Thank you for contacting the Guild Wars 2 Support Team.

We were sorry to learn that some players were unable to receive their rewards at the conclusion of this weekend’s event, due to being disconnected.

Our development team is currently exploring the possibility of being able to provide these rewards to those players that were affected. You can read more about this on the official Guild Wars 2 Forums, located here: (https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Disconnect-at-the-end-of-Lost-Shores-Event-Read-this).

Once we have additional information to impart, we will contact you again via this same ticket.

We certainly appreciate your continued patience and understanding while we work through this issue.

Regards,

GM Smote
Guild Wars Support Team
http://support.guildwars2.com/

Event Satisfaction Survey

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1)graphics (1-bad…10-amazing) – 5 Fps lagg (must be my cpu)
2)sound(1-bad…10-amazing) – 4 Still alot of follower footsteps at 100% volume bug!
3)story concept/originality (1-boring…10-captivating) – 7 If it all worked it would be quite fun.
4)loot/reward (1-lost all my money…10-gained amazing items) – 1 Got booted out just before the crash.
5)stability (1-extremly buggy…10-no bugs) – 1 Couldnt log in after the crash!
6)network connection/speed (1-laggy,disconnections, 10 – perfect connection) – 3 Lagg wasnt that bad, but couldnt log in after chest.
7)mini events length (1-to long/short…10-just right) – 4 Reinforcement where very annoyingly long.
8)overall event length (1-to long/short…10-just right) – 6 If i got my reward wich is not the case, i would be quite happy with the lenght.
9)overall Satisfaction (1-worst experience ever,10-best experience ever) – 1 I veel very left out because of the perfectly timed server crash.

Overall : [3.5]
Sorry arenanet but i just wasnt very happy with it. It felt like a big waste of time for me. While other people that just lie dead waiting did get their reward.

Disconnected at the final phase! [Merged]

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I just submitted a ticket.
I really hope arenanet gives us something for the lost time and frustration of the overall bad and OP event.
It was not fun hard but 1shotkilled 10fps hard.

Been there, Done that.

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For me its still on 97%.

Maguuma explorer

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After today’s patch the only explorer title i need to get is maguuma explorer.
Its currently at 164/165.

My question is: is it normal that the Golemagical Institute does not count towards the maguuma explorer?

Because when i discovered it i didnt get any point.

I hope someone can confirm this, or confirm it as a bug so that i dont waste any time trying to get my last area.

Thanks!

World Completion

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Try to look in wvwvw first, since you have not 1 but 4 maps to explore there.

Stuck on Krytan Explorer

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do dungeons count as areas? I’ve yet to do them and I too am stuck at 175. I don’t really want to run around aimlessly to find out I alread had 100% except the dungeons ;-)

I dont belive so.

Greatsword with fire graphic? (Not Ele)

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Isnt that a Hall of monuments reward?
I know there is a fiery sword skin just like prince rurik had in gw1. But i dont know if there is a greatsword of it.

Explorer-Achievement question - What am I missing?

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Exactly, i got 100% world completion but got 97% map completion. It is really a pain in the kitten to get those areas. (fom what i know you need to uncover a area that has a name).

Stuck on Krytan Explorer

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Yea it was hard, i think i was spoiled too much with texmod.

Tried to discover area’s yesterday for hours. But i only discovered one.

What im thinking is: maybe there are underwater contents that dont have a poi.

Also the map isnt really working since i got 100% on all maps. I need to find a map with the names of the areas on it.

Stuck on Krytan Explorer

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Im stuck on it too.
The thing i noticed is that you need to get every single area name on a map.

I have a really hard time finding those.

Someone got any tips?

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Server Full

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Hmm, i dont see an option to guest to another server.