Guild Wars 2

Moo.3408:

Or one for each stat instead:
Power
Condi
Heal
Tough
Vital
Precision

Stats is probably the main reason why they wanna change the whole trait lines thing.
What if I want to become a pure DPS and Water elementalist at the same time cause
I want to be DPS but uses cantrips/regens/Vigor/condi removes?? Should they force me to get the Vitality/Healing over Perc/Ferocity?? Like-wise if I wanted to use arcane
magic but can’t cause I needed the versatility buffs in arcana trait lines??

Maybe they just gonna put stats on 1 side / Traits on another / Specialization for
a Sidegrade.

I highly doubt it will be weapon based due to swap mechanics or stat base due to
balancing/versatility issues. Based on utility skills?? unlikely. All classes have 5 possible
specializations based on trait lines alone.

Like Thief

Rogue – Venom Power Trait
Assassin – Executioner Perc Trait
Stalker – Stealth Toughness Trait
Acrobat – Dodge Vit Trait
Trickster – Tricks Condi Trait

Also look at rangers. Their Super Condition Traps are located at the Perc/Ferocity trait lines which doesn’t make any sense.

I’m hoping there’d be at least 5 specialization per class.
Look @ the current Trait lines for elem for example:

Pyromancer
Aeromancer
Hydromancer
Geomancer
Arcanist

Lol, it’s just gonna be a sidegrade not an upgrade. The Druid-ranger
probably came from the nature magic trait line. Makes sense.

It’s the same reason warrior only uses HamBow in PVP when they have so
many choices of weapon sets available. Needs improvement.

Maybe they’d make a battle mage by giving elems sword/GS/Hammer/Spear
so they can also be masters of close combat? Sounds awesome.

All elems run the same water-arcana cantrip builds. Basically all the other slot
skills and traits are crap. Needs complete makeover.

There should be a specialization in Versatility like the “Arcana Traits”
But any other elem who like to specialize in AoE=Fire / ST = Air
Healing = Water and Tank = Earth should be another choice for elems.
Versatility doesn’t mean you wear celestial only but have many choices
and roles to play with. You should see more diversity in builds which the
current elems do not have. It’s just 1 build people recycle with dif weaps.

FYI, more than half the classes are versatile but not all elems want to be versatile.
Can you all stop whining? This could help a dead class be PvP-able. Geezus

LoL, I thought i was the only one who missed that map! Raid on the Capricorn!!
I love raining down cannon balls @ zergs fighting @ points. I always get the making it rain title and it was so fun. The underwater fight was always something new and refreshing. But they probably have underwater class balancing issues and bugs as some classes don’t even have elite skills underwater. I hope they return it though.

I wish arena net will make good DM maps but will have secondary objectives like buff ups, point per pick ups, create an attack army and defend lords, capture the flag and the likes. They will never announce it for the suspense and to avoid giving of false information when it’s not yet final.

Tried it on a Ferocity Buff today. Failed the first, worked on the second.
Yep it does happen. Tranquility however determines win or lose in certain
situations. My group member also had trouble with stomping cause it
was bugged out too and got us wiped when reinforcements came.

Glad to know this wasn’t some isolated case. It happens a lot when fighting
and stomping players on Tranq buff. After clearing out the enemy, I charge
the buff til finish, not moving or pressing anything but nothing happens.
So basically the enemy 3 caps everything and caught up to our 100+ lead.
This is frustrating especially if your group get so shock and angry about
what happened. You will get the blame for something you can’t control.
I don’t even touch that thing anymore.

I was charging from the left side of the buff last time it happened.

2 Matches we lose because I charged Tranquility and nothing happened.
Wth is wrong with this map?? Is it broke?? It always happens after i run
around stomping a bunch of enemies then after taking the buff nothing
happens. 1 time even on 2nd attempt.

So frustrating, ruined like 2 tourneys we were “supposed” to win after
working so hard.

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Spica.9308:

If there’s 1 to blame it’s your servers for failing to beat YB,
miscalculating your points and overall poor strategy.

I kinda agree with you there.

Another thing is that they should just lock transfers during the season and probably 1-2 weeks prior to season but in that case Anet will lose real life $$$ they make from the gems, so its kinda tough situation for them.

Well if there’s 1 to complain it should come from FA, Mag, HoD, BP, AR
and ET. Those poor poor servers were simply in the wrong spot at the
wrong time. That’s what you call unfair. Not because you cry that you
blob harder than lower rank server therefore they don’t deserve anything
even though they had substantially less popultion and less bandwagon
transfers than their T3 counterparts.

Maybe they should’ve place T3 like in EU to Gold instead and call it even and
you get no prizes. T7-T8 should be bronze. Just consider yourself luckier than
any T4-T5 servers you get 2 weeks of easy rofltomp match-ups and therefor
more free tickets. Honestly, the only reason you won because you’re T3. Why
dreprive other servers? The first prize is given to a T3 and you’re still crying.

As if it was fair for T4-T5 servers to face T3 in the first place.
Why would they give you free and easy rewards if all you do
is blob harder than the lower population/coveragr servers.
If there’s 1 to blame it’s your servers for failing to beat YB,
miscalculating your points and overall poor strategy.

I’ve been on DR but YB’s ability to paper the threat server during OCX just so
it can secure their 1st place is very real. A lot of Mag server hoppers and other
bandwagons also noted to hop on this server for the tourney. All CD every did
was back cap our borderlands creating a 2v1 Scenario to the benefit of Yaks.
They also zerged attack our EB side when our BL beccame infested with Yaks
going overtime.

1. YB
2. CD/DB
3. DR/SBi
4. IoJ/NSP
5. HoD/BP

We’re not really sure at this point since our server alone has loads of
people taking a holiday before the tourney due to this 2v1 match-up,
server siege cappers and the sabotage of our communication system

Silver is as good and competitive as it gets. I hope none of the
servers would get stuck in that Gold hell hole. Match-ups are far
more interesting here. Either way by the looks of mag they’d just
be stomped around in silver same way SoR did… We like ours
competitive and not mindless K-train pvdooring zergwagons…

IoJ fell from tier 1 to tier 7 then bandwagon to tier 3 as well. We will see
if we can be competent in tier 4 considering CD is a tier 3 level server.
They beat Yaks Bend and Dragonbrand in tier 3 once. The only concern is
the No. of cheaters and hackers will further increase tier 4 and upwards.

Before condi wars 2 there was burst wars 2. Everyone one was wearing berserkers set and spamming dps. I suppose boon spamming is a great skill for boon wars 2.

Not sure if its a good idea comparing gw1 necro and gw2 necro. Pls. bring the gw1 necro and its awesome conditions and minions. We should be allowed to make your corpses explode.

Without conditions

1. Thieves and Mesmers would still be owning everyone without a counter.
2. Massive Increase in damage for minions, turrets and pets.
3. They have to make up for all the condition damage lost by adding in massive
increase in DPS to skills. Meaning Staff Necros, Elems, Mesmers should also get
AoE Radius increases and maximum number of targets hit.
4. Remove conditions = Boons will be overpowered (Boon Builds), Hammer Builds OP
5. Without condition game will lack variety. Might as well play smash bros or
other console / arcade games.
6. If you wanna remove weakness then remove vigor + fury + might as well. Jesus
7. Even necros only have 1 torment skill with a 45 second CD. 1 burning trait
and can only get additional confusion/torment from runes.
8. Some immobilizing skills are too OP, I agree.
9. Regen Boon / Regens without Poison and Condi = Leech Wars / Heal Wars 2
10. You all plotting to remove cripple but retain swiftness = Melee / Hammer Wars 2
11. 1-2 Seconds of fear is too OP for you? Didn’t they nerf it with stun breaks? I find
it laughable how warriors/thieves get longest fear durations than Necros.

Anet is probably working on something but making game destabilizing decisions like that just because people with smash and bash builds feels so kitten in wvw is not an option. Nerf thieves QQ, Nerf Clones QQ, Nerf Hammer Trains QQ, Nerf Conditions QQ, Nerf Warriors Speed QQ, Nerf Guardians Boons QQ, and most recently due to a lot of people abusing it = Conditions QQ (in which all 8 classes use)

It needs slight rebalance and rework same way ferocity was too OP in the past. Like for example you get protect which reduces -33% damage so why not make a shell or barrier boon similar to it which reduces -33% condition damage. Make condi damage stack able in both damage and effect similar to bleed and vulnerability.

Now that you’ve mentioned it why don’t you just remove all the conditions and condition dealing classes from the game.

They should seriously give you an award for this.

Tier based or rank based is good considering randomized match-ups. The only
point is we should make pricing slightly higher on destabilizing transfers and
discounts on balancing transfers. Either way 100 or 200 gem difference won’t
hardly matter on those whose prices are above 500 gems but it will surely help
the bottom 2 servers get a few people and groups to create 3-way match ups.
I highly doubt guilds from tiers 1-3 these days will band wagon a tier 8 server
due to what happened with KN

Will slightly higher volatility and randomization hurt? or how about
a ratings reset balancing quarterly or semi annual?

This is why server stacking and bandwagon is bad in tiers 1-3 match-ups. The only good happening so far is maguuma in tier 2 finally putting up a fight against SoS after 10+ weeks of lopsidedness. The bad side is tier 1 turning lopsided due to over stacking (heavy transfers to JQ). That’s why a lot of people would figure out they prefer tiers 4-7 unless they are from a winning server of a lopsided match-up. /boring

Chaba.5410:

Tier-based pricing might be better than rank-based pricing. That ensures that all servers in a single match have equal footing transfer-wise.

We already learned it the hard way. People will seek the “greenest server possible” if you make it tier based. For example during free transfers there were

Silver: HoD, NSP, CD

Bronze: DR, AR, Ebay, Kain, ET

They all went HoD and everything else was ignored.

If we put same price on tier 8 no one would ever go to ET and that server will never
have any chance of getting transfers. Same way if you were to choose between
FA, Yaks Bend and Sbi Looking at their current match-ups any Tier 1 or 2 transfers
would obviously go FA then might as well make that server just “slightly” expensive than the rest. I do believe we should discourage transfers to servers who will have an “obvious” win in their current match-ups and encourage them to go to a red server first and foremost then blue server. Green is sure to win in 6/8 matches (without randomized)

or have cost of transfers based on weekly ranks ended not the on-going.

e.g.
Rank 1 = JQ = 2,400 Gems
Rank 2 = TC = 2,300 Gems
Rank 3 = BG = 2,200 Gems
Rank 4 = SoS = 2,100 Gems
Rank 5 = Mag = 2,000 Gems
to
Rank 20 = FC = 500 Gems
Rank 21 = AR = 400 Gems
Rank 22 = Ebay = 300 Gems
Rank 23 = Kain = 200 Gems
Rank 24 = ET = 100 Gems

Seems fair enough… Ratings represent the wvw value of the servers so should price…

How about turning it into a mega server wars from tier 4 and below. Keep servers intact but there will be 5 servers per color randomly mixed weekly within their own current tier so there will be a random tier 4,5,6,7,8 per group. New allies, new enemies per week for variety and different outcomes plus more people/guilds for blobs and coverage as many people wanted it. The challenge is the ratings however (not that it actually works as intended). Merging Tiers 6,7,8 even though a temporary fix will still not prevent people from over stacking the current tiers 1-2. People will always pay any price just to be in the top 6 servers. Devs should find ways to keep and reward server loyalty. Also the current wvw population is only like 5-20% of their potential in all servers. A lot of wvw people probably got bored and stop playing altogether or played other games. So yeah wvw need a lot more attention than the other 2 game modes.

Buffy.9246:

I love how people always assume t1 is all blobs. It’s NOT!
T1 is losing people just as much as other tiers. It’s still most played then wasteland t4 and down but to be honest. Eotm has more action then t1 ever does now.

Same way no-lifers assume every other servers that isn’t about 500+ people carrying nothing but hammers or 200+ golems vs 500 arrow carts is a wasteland. But you’re right eotm and Spvp are far better options atm less the constant whining.

As for losing people, blame devs. People are bored with the lack of any significant changes and improvements to WvW. It has been bleeding out players for a long time.

JPSnow.8296:

Spica.9308:

Stacking up only on tiers 1-2 are basically the players fault. Tiers 1-2 keep recruiting / buying guilds just so they can beat other servers in their tiers. Whatever bad stuff they
get from it, is what they all deserve. A lot of lower server players don’t want hammer blobs / infinite arrow carts / golem armies. It’s just no fun for a lot of people so keep
it to your freaking selves. >> We have a life outside gw2!! <<

I would agree with your post for a na players but… As a oceanic player I can only get good fights in top 2 tier and even tier 2 can be boring at times. So basically besides na people or euro on euro servers we don’t have a choice but to stack on certain servers. There just not enough of us to go around

I totally agree. Ocx, Euro and SEA players is what makes tier 1-3 on top and hardly their NA. Tiers 1-2 have their oceans of blobs. Tiers 3-4 has some big night blobs already. Tiers 5-6 has night groups which can be large at times. Tiers 7-8 has some people, dh kain in particular dominate off peak.

People keep insisting to merge the lower servers with tier 2 so why not just suggest 6 mega servers and let them fight each other. No point in crying about variety when all they do is stack the top servers because of their “I’m on top mentality”.

Stacking up only on tiers 1-2 are basically the players fault. Tiers 1-2 keep recruiting / buying guilds just so they can beat other servers in their tiers. Whatever bad stuff they
get from it, is what they all deserve. A lot of lower server players don’t want hammer blobs / infinite arrow carts / golem armies. It’s just no fun for a lot of people so keep
it to your freaking selves. >> We have a life outside gw2!! <<

Rize Jodo.1276:

The tournament standings may not be a great indicator of current strengths among servers in the bronze league due to the great migrations that occurred just prior and during the season. Ebay and ET lost members and guilds prior to the tournament due to cheap transfers and there was another power shift when Kain, DH, SF lost members with the launch of the China servers. I am not super knowledgeable of what happened but it’s what I heard. I love Ebay and hope we never lose our identity but I am afraid that this may be the only answer…

Atherakhia.4086:

I hope ANet will finally take note of how terrible these servers have become and will merge some of them.

Only thing I can think of is taking the 3 smallest servers Ebay, ET, Kain and merging them with the three above them creating: ET+SF, Kain+DH, and Ebay+Anvil. As much as I don’t like that idea I would prefer it to them just disbanding any servers completely. Oh well Anet said there would be changes to WvW later this year so we’ll just have to wait and see.

Edit: Purely speculation but I see an EotM like format for all of WvW with 3 server “teams” that are rotated and then fixed during tournaments based on how the regular season went.

Merging servers won’t solve anything. It will only create 2 new bottom servers with more people in it. We’d rather have more tiers than more people who whine about how unfair it is for the bottom 2 servers. Mixing match-ups between tiers 6-7-8 will only result in both servers getting destroyed harder than what ebay ar could do to them. No matter how you shuffle match-ups 2 servers must unfortunately get stuck in the bottom unless Anet gives them free transfers and it will create 2 new bottom servers who whines all day. The only help Anet can probably do to encourage underdog servers is to give them a little edge or rewards. The game should encourage 2v1 on the winning server for better rewards and discourages double teaming either the 2nd placer or the 3rd placer (which happens 95% of the time). The point systems need some more variety that doesn’t favor zerging everything and giving losing servers more chances to even the score. Make it harder for 1st place to keep its lead and the rest to catch-up.

If I were to suggest they should scrap the whole out manned buff thing since we barely felt its effects rather they should give these buffs.

2nd and 3rd Place servers should gain 33% more exp / wxp / karma / money / magic find every time they successfully cap a 1st place server’s property. Corresponding points should be given directly as a bonus like +1 for killing yaks +10 camps, +20 towers, +50 keeps and +100 castle.

3rd Place servers should have 50% discount in upgrading their territory and 25% faster upgrading speed since they are most likely to get papered all throughout the match-ups.

It’s just a little incentive to fight for 1st and a little help to keep a 3rd place server from giving up on lopsided match-up.

Either way any server can be 1st 2nd or 3rd in any point of every weekly match-ups. The whole point is to keep score gaps as tight as possible, to create more competition and chaos since basically wvw has become a coverage and out swarming kind of event.

Without DR to constantly 2v1 on and 2 servers known for fighting for 2nd place I wonder who would win?

Sadly, we got a little tired of GoM focusing our stuff only all week so a 3rd place server always comes 2nd and that server wouldn’t even touch a single camp from them. :P

DR pretty much fights GoM head on at the start of each match-up (and does so well too) that’s why we get so much hate. But that’s until a 3rd server comes in and attacks us from both sides.

Overall, bronze league could’ve been better if they manually switched GoM and SoR instead. Right now its just obvious SF will get double teamed all throughout.

And i’m quite sure this says a lot to what has been going on the whole match-ups.

GoM double teams and focuses on any server threatening to destroy its perfect
first place record while a 3rd server fighting for 2nd is mostly ignored.

uhm not really. I didn’t even get to picture that 1 time when all our borders
were a perfect stripe of red and green. That was when GoMs gap between the 2
other servers widened.

If DR and FC were working together your fully upgraded SM won’t exist by now and
your borders ran over on both sides.

Seriously, we don’t have any reason to be here but you kept bashing our guild leader and guild intentional or not. We were not the ones showing ego or seeking
attention here. We merely first reacted by some people’s posts here because it was offensive and ridiculous. But nonetheless, I do hope you guys beat ebay and get better. cya and have fun!

:-( I thought you wanted us out of your forums. Why still hating here?
Jek weren’t you fighting for darkhaven and trashtalking ET when BoM and AKD
was busy fighting to get recruits for ET during the 2-3 weeks after DI left the server??

Oh well… Gotta admit GoM is by far the strongest when it comes to off peak but we are able to defend from their zergs and swarms whenever our server mates take a good sleep. We don’t hide at all, in fact we keep getting better and better. :P

And I thought ET had a strong nightcrew without BoM since there were only 3-4 of us
on those times? Anyway good luck to ya.

Berk.8561:

Spica.9308:

People here trash talk the moment the guild left further proving more like it was indeed the right choice and ET must change that kind of attitude if it so wishes to gain more friends than keep on losing them, since we all trust and respect our leaders and members enough cause they’ve been with us through thick and thin.

Really? In DI’s recruitment threads? The only trashing I see here is coming from people who have left the server.

Spica.9308:

But good luck cause there are really a lot of people we care about over there. We will do our best to deal with those servers whose been bullying you for these 7 weeks. <3 ETs!!!

Yes, you care so much that you are spamming our recruitment thread with criticism portraying ET as a toxic place unwelcoming to others. Do you help drowning people by tossing them rocks, too?

Are you even active on the server’s team speak? Even if you were just listening, you’d understand better but its kinda too late now.

We were just heavily offended by some peoples comment here but I won’t go further into that. Other servers know how divided we were, so saying that here won’t affect your recruitment whatsoever except for giving a wake up call.

Anyway you seem to be having it the wrong way. But we’ll stop posting in this thread now. There was always “a chance” that all guilds who left could’ve came back during free transfers but sadly people in this thread like driving people out more than helping find solution to the source of the problem.

People here trash talk the moment the guild left further proving more like it was indeed the right choice and ET must change that kind of attitude if it so wishes to gain more friends than keep on losing them, since we all trust and respect our leaders and members enough cause they’ve been with us through thick and thin.

But good luck cause there are really a lot of people we care about over there. We will do our best to deal with those servers whose been bullying you for these 7 weeks. <3 ETs!!!

DI held ET together for the longest time both from enemies and from internal drama…

AKD proved they were more than just a blob. They beat both SF and GoM in tier 7
by almost 40k and 60k… They were among our biggest force in NA.

BS has always been our best and the few roaming guild, you can’t change the fact that the rest of the ET blobs gets kitten d at pvp half their size. They make the server less bad to the eyes of others. They take on any zerg like it was nothing.

BoM proved that when they left, The server can’t even stand against Ebay and Kain anymore. Although BoM as well tried their best to hold the server together after AKD.
They were the backbone of the server divided in both NA and OCX/SEA times. When Choosing to fight full force during off peak, 400-600+ PPT can be achieved.

ET has been our home for many months since our greatest fall from tier 1 but we also want the server to be reborn. If there are indeed toxic people in the admins in our Team Speak or if you believe the guilds who left were truly the toxic ones, hope these will all change the server for the better because even if we left, I still cannot lay a finger on an ET and so did all the other guilds who left avoiding to fight all the good people left behind.

Good thing we went to DR, AR wasn’t even a choice after his months of trolling.

Wow you TBT-ARs sure said a mouthful. Just work on your recruitment and stop
saying crap about other servers just to persuade people to transfer to AR. All those
forum people in the past from our server already transfered to ioj, db, dh and maguuma. All that’s left is basically the past minor guilds working their best for the
server and actually working together without dramas, trolls etc etc.

If we pvdoor you during oceanics, you pvdoor us during our NA. But why be such a hypocrite when your server equally abuses the time they outnumber others?

Anyways I’d always ignore you like in the past months and months you always trash talk our server but you’re doing this right now for the sole purpose of stealing recruits. too Pathetic we never say anything bad about AR or others.

No, I wasn’t pointing anyone out and appreciate all the efforts they are making. But we can do much better if we stop arguing and set up our priorities for maximizing PPT. This is leagues season 1, every small thing we do adds up. Hope we put our team work and determination above considering we are poor in terms of coverage and commanders aren’t present 24/7.

As usual DH forms a zerg during 10pm-12midnight SEA prime time and is solely focused on hitting ET. Then some people made the wrong choices that costs us all our upgraded keeps and towers. Being out manned in all maps those times we can’t afford playing around so we lost pretty much everything. Keep working as a team ET!! We are always out manned that is why we focus solely on good coordination and strong defenses. It looks like fight for 1st place is solely fading away since basically DH and ET takes advantage of each others weakness instead of focus firing SF during their weak times.

My Predictions of strongest contenders,

Gold – JQ and SoR will Dominate. Dunno what happened to BG this week.

Silver – Zerguuma, Stormzerg Isle, Fort Zergenwood and even Zerg’s bend after
obliterating Zergy Bay Last week.

Bronze – Not sure if KAIN is better than NSP down here but they’re biggest server
in terms of Oceanic-Sea coverage. NSP coverage is more spread-out but
strong in all of it. KAIN however is somehow weaker in prime time but will
destroy nearly everything in off peak. if 2 servers can defend or 2v1 during
off peak then maybe they won’t grow so bold like their previous Match-Up.

Problem with W vs W vs W is most servers/guilds/people have too much
pride they won’t care to make strategies with another server to win resulting
in a lopsided match-up between first and a fight for 2nd place between the
rest by doing 2v1 on the lowest ranked server.

Anyway this week has been so boring. It’s like Arena Nets science fair experiments went horribly wrong at the worst possible time. You pretty much discouraged all our potential transfers that would’ve help us make up for out constant out manned buff even with fair weathers on it.

ET weekends, FC Weekdays, DR appears and disappears like a thief.

Nice match-up. Til next time… Good Luck. Hope ETs won’t slack off over the weekdays.

It’s quite true we are lacking combat / skirmish guilds in ET and have massive PVE base that makes up for our huge zergs. All these PVE contents are also the main reason we suddenly experience big drops in wvw attendance. Anet needs to learn to balance, not just go insane on PVE contents and completely ignore PVP / GvG / WvW.
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I also just don’t appreciate FC bragging about how better they are in pvp and constantly reminding us how kitten we are. I appreciate however how better they’ve become. We’ve fought Kaineng, IoJ, NSP, HoD, SF and seen all kinds of guilds and compared to them… It’s still a long way to go for us…

The only skill in FC are those who played guardians 2 v 1, or zerg of guardians vs 1, or an army of superior arrow carts. So cheeeeezy…. Other than that there’s nothing to brag about except having the best forum warriors. We killed many of your guildm8s 1v1 like cow poop but you don’t see us shouting it every now and then in forums. Big deal!!! You’re just a bunch of noisy and annoying and pathetic losers bragging about how skilled you are…. Lol… Nvm *farts

At first every big and small guilds in ET were in the PVE zones. We didn’t have commanders, leaders or motivation to even try and win a wvw match-up. Fergs were more play to win, all through out their wvw guilds like Yarr, WZ, etc had been helping them a lot including now trying to ninja our keeps over and over. However, time’s change, the drama queens & trolls left, all our guilds united leaving behind the pve server image. Everyone contributes including our zerg of PUGs (which includes level 1-70s btw) . Everyone contributes but so far you haven’t seen any “Large Guilds” or new “Guild Names” that are worth noting in ET. It has always been there just not in WvW. The leagues are gonna be worse and we are still really small comparing to HoD, SF, NSP and DH. Kaineng, Yak’s Bend and IoJ will simply obliterate everything on weekends and karma train the rest of the week days. It’s ridiculous what Anet does to us every single time but hopefully we all take it as a challenge to become better.

Uhm although FC seems to think we are total newbs with numbers, think of what will happen once we become even better as a server and as coordinated as your guild groups of 10s-20s with their superiority of using mesmer portals and endless arrow carts and golems. Keep in mind it’s easy to wipe PUGs only because they simply love going with the flow using them lowbie gears but takes a lot to “train, lead and motivate” them into an army. I also lost count of all the Omega golems we destroyed with your sneaky and “Pro” tactics. Afterwards, we ended up bumping the wrong keeps and towers running around randomly like newbs. How silly, we were simply bashing our heads til the gates opened itself.

These seemed more logical in spreading fights to both north and south ends of each borders. Just an opinion, it’s too frustrating to play wvw now.

I don’t see how this is helping us in WvW at all. The match-ups are all terrible and 1-sided in a whole new scale. It was the same mistakes over and over. I can understand the purpose it seems fun and dynamic but far too detached from the realities of world vs world and how population / coverage plays a major role.

First the stats. Now the zerg 24/7 servers has like +150 stats in all zergs including their NPCs in all their “FULLY” upgraded Camps, Towers, Keeps and Castle. They have way points to easily defend their ruins, while we have to run so far from our “ONLY SPAWN POINT” only “to get zerg” before we even get there. Right now only Tier 1 Match-ups seems at least balanced. The gaps between scores are getting wider and wider. Does Anet have something against the poor and the weak servers?

Second, the randomization of match-ups doesn’t work well with this. In our case a Tier 5 server was simply too overwhelming for us in tier 6-8, the runes makes it even harder for us when we barely get enough people to defend ourselves. Their up leveled and pugs get powerful hitting for more, ours get 1 hit in “an already 10 vs 1” fight. The old system would be preferred or 1 up 1 down. It happens that a tier 1 will fight tier 3 and 5 in random fights.

Third, The location of the ruins is also a big problem. If all you wanted was to spread zergs that was the worst possible place you could’ve put them. If you simply made use of the 3 locations up north skritt cave, centaur camp and former Orb altar in north camp, center island in lake and center ruins between two southern towers, you won’t even need removing the water or the 3 quaggan villages. Underwater fights will be more appreciated, dominating servers will have to spread small groups further not just zergs running around in circles all day, weaker servers find it possible to defend even if they lose all keeps and way points, combat guilds can just head north and camp there for fun and simply have defenders on the skritt cave and centaur camp.

As if NSP wasn’t enough to prove tier 6s round the clock coverage superiority, they’ll pin us with ioj kaineng and SBi super nightcappers in league fights? Good luck to everyone’s upgraded keeps. It’s probably the thing that separates tier 5 from 6-8 the most. Oh well its the same for the upper half you just need a tier 1 server to kitten the match-up, ours will be tier 5. I was hoping it be a tier 7-8 only 4 leagues

Colt.9051:

Spica.9308:

1. PVE Server ( Okay so you’re the only server who does PVE or is affected by it? )
2. Complains ET destroys our upgraded keeps ( You mean you never attacked us? )
3. Would we attack NSP? (16th rank NSP, 20th GoM and 21st ET Self-Explanatory)
4. Our WvW guilds left us, how would you know when you’re not in GoM?
(Who the hell cares? just look at the chart of 6 servers with mass exodus and you’d see GoM in Purple lose about 3 ranks lately in a new “randomized” match-up setting, it’s you who have no clue what other servers been through before making lame excuses)
5. OMG we got outmanned buff now ( Yeah like we never experience it every min of every day for almost a year now lulz )

You 3 kiddies are laughable, maybe they left you cause you were all busy being too smart to win for the server. :o

1) Read my last post in response to said comment. I agreed on his standpoint, so no need to beat a dead horse.
2) Who cared about them being upgraded? I dont remember anyone griping over that. Tho I have to say, easy points are easy points I guess. It’s just to most other people, it’s making it look like you guys are taking the easier way out by constantly “PvDing” our Borderlands. Even ppl in NSP see that. NSP wants a challenge too!
3) Server ranks are near meaningless with this new matchup system. Next match you could be pitted against AR and DR, kick their kitten and STILL lose rank, where we could face DH and IoJ, get our butts kicked, and STILL gain rank, and overtake u in rank. I lol at that logic.
4) GoM hasn’t started from that high of a rank to start freefalling as we are now compared to the other servers. We still have some PuGs, and a few organized guild groups, but as I said on a previous post, it’s not counting for much in this match against two servers with superior numbers in WvW at most times. It’s mainly a matter of time before the PuGs get disinterested totally at this rate.
5) GoM’s been through plenty of times where we’ve been outmanned before, so kindly get off your high horse thinking we’re total greenhorns about it. Even when outmanned, I fight as I did tonight. (Can even read chat log in 3rd screen for verification) Hell, I kept running even till my armor broke >.>

I spent an extra 2-3 hours defending our keep from your PvDoorers and my server mates and our dedicated commanders had to switch back and forth from defending against NSP and you who took advantage of our empty borders. So we took yours while defending against NSP and to our surprise your borders remained empty for so long. That was just payback as you had people annoying us for long hours in our borders when we can barely cap back our own camps. Then I see a lot of forum warriors here all of the sudden degrading and humiliating us. Oh well we have great commanders and small group of PUGs/Newbies/PVEs getting better. And we aren’t the losing server so maybe the last time I take GoM forum warriors seriously. Our awesome commanders and our servers effort deserved more respect and credit not your groundless insults. Just look at the score we defend and fight back harder and we rarely ever bash you over here. And BS Guild is awesome to represent ET and win 2nd place . So I’ll leave that here.

1. PVE Server ( Okay so you’re the only server who does PVE or is affected by it? )
2. Complains ET destroys our upgraded keeps ( You mean you never attacked us? )
3. Would we attack NSP? (16th rank NSP, 20th GoM and 21st ET Self-Explanatory)
4. Our WvW guilds left us, how would you know when you’re not in GoM?
(Who the hell cares? just look at the chart of 6 servers with mass exodus and you’d see GoM in Purple lose about 3 ranks lately in a new “randomized” match-up setting, it’s you who have no clue what other servers been through before making lame excuses)
5. OMG we got outmanned buff now ( Yeah like we never experience it every min of every day for almost a year now lulz )

You 3 kiddies are laughable, maybe they left you cause you were all busy being too smart to win for the server. :o