Guild Wars 2

You can just buy ember + mortar, then equip shelter heal, wall of reflection, sanctuary, shield of the avenger.
Use some defensive traits like F2 better healing and whatever u like as long as u survive.
Now with this build you wont die, but there is a small problem with your damage, the way to fix it is poison.
Why poison?
Subject 7 is not easy to kill with frailty because of the huge damage loss, but if it’s poisoned, it wont regen as fast and u will be able to kill it.
The combination that you should use for utilities should be Wall-Sanctuary-Shield of the Avenger.
When u pop Shield of The Avenger, you probably have low hp, so if u can hold it until 1st shield is down, use it after 1st shield vanishes so it will go like that shield→heal(block again) and after your heal shield should pop again.

I hope i helped you. :P

this one seems better option :P

bro the 5 gambit achievement requires tier 3 boss.

Try sigil of force on your axe and sigil of intelligence on your shield.
When u swap to axe-shield your next 3 attacks will be critical plus 5% more damage with force sigil.
Would make it easier for u to burst someone when he has about 35-50% hp (always depending on class and build your enemy uses)

Thaddeus.4891:

And btw nice job about the flame legion rune. I prefer to stay with my Scholar Runes myself (strength only for my might stacking Ele), but still that a really good options for a lot of people. I will definitively talk about that to other people in my guild that don’t have too much gold.

At last someone who appreciated my searching for cheaper runes. :P

I dont know if these build work with full random people in group, but i suppose that if u are 3 friends at least these should be ok i guess.
You never know what kind of people u might meet.

@Darox no it wasn’t sarcasm, i would really like to see how [rT] do daily dungeons, not records :P

@Neko Well some people dont search in guild websites for build, so i posted the [DnT] traits as well. So based on that i added the flame legion runes.

The torch trait adds also burn duration, which is also damage.

Well if u just opened Trading Post and search for all the runes above, u would have realised why i suggest this option.

Anyway, i was getting whispers by many of my friends about scholar runes, because they couldn’t keep their hp above 90% for much time, so i told them to buy strength runes, but they were already high priced (4g each).
Some of those people that i whispered couldn’t afford 24g for these runes.
I told them to farm those gold and buy the runes.
By the time they had 24g runes of strength were even higher, so they farmed more gold.
Finally strength runes reached 16g each, so my friends decided not to get any of them, because they feel getting scammed.
Some days ago one friend of mine suggested Flame Legion runes.
We tested them and here is the profit.
Of course it’s not the best option for record runs, but they are very good for the players that dont wanna focus so much for dodging and stuff, like our guilds do.

By the way, i would like to see how [rT] run dungeons :-P

Darox, have u ever been without even 1 gold in your inventory?
There are new people in this game, also there are people who like to run 3-4 dungeons with their friends, but they dont like scholar because they cant maintain their health over 90%.

If you can’t think of these posibilities then i guess you are the only person on the game who is not getting even 1 hit inside any dungeon.

Note: Not everyone is skilled player or experienced dodger or w/e u try to state here.
Flame Legion are great for me and my friends, also one guy said they were usefull for their team as well.

You don’t need to badmouth the runes just because u might have spent 80g in strength and u are proud of them.

Try to think about the use of Flame Legion Runes and the possibility of not maintaining over 90% health.
Then make a DPS sheet with these numbers, but without 10% of scholar.
After that add 7% for the Flame Legion and answer to me.

Which runes are better if 80% of the fights u cant maintain your health over 90%?

I’m asking this because most of my friends without speedrun guild are not able to maintain their health over 90%, but they have decent DPS.

I’ll be waiting for your answer now.
I hope u wont say anything like “if u can’t… you are noobs” and things like that.
I already posted that my friends are not in any speedrun guild so just thing about what i wrote and post according to these posibilities, not yours.

@Darox Dude you really don’t understand what alternative is or do u play dumb?
Flame Legion Runes are the cheap version with same DPS of strength runes.
The only possible problem would be the might uptime, but it’s not a problem because fights with a decent group dont last longer than 35 sec.
You are in [rT] you know these things i suppose.

Well i have to disappoint you on this.
@maxinion i wrote my numbers on the dps sheet that [DnT] made public and assassin’s on that build had more dps.
@Darox i know many people without having guilds for record runs that just wanna finish their dungeons fast.

If i didnt have these kind of people in my friendlist, then i would think the same, that’s why i shared these Cheaper alternatives, so people can replace Strength runes with Flame Legion.

That was the point from the start.
I don’t understand why everyone only see traits.
Use whatever traits u want if mine dont fit you.
Thanks for the responses guys.
I hope people will understand why i made these topics, instead of judging traits.

Because it was a mistake.
Edited :P

Then i suggest you read this website.
It might help you.
http://www.dtguilds.com/

i would recommend you visit this post https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Elementalist-Cheap-Dungeon-and-Fractal-Builds/first#post4056521

Mate i posted above these are dungeon and fractal builds.
They dont fit in wvw at all.

If we are speaking for speed clearing dungeons:
Rune of Strength gives 7% damage under the effect of might
Rune of the Flame Legion gives 7% damage when enemy is burning
Rune of Hoelbrak gives only might duration and it’s a lot more expensive than Flame Legion.
Also as i posted on the first post, u dont need the might duration if you have a decent speed clearing group.

These builds are designed by [DnT] for organised Berserker groups.
You dont actually need perma fury, maximum 40 sec are enough.
Also a decent Berserker group would stack at least 20 vuln easily.

I must agree with u ILobo, traits have nothing to do with dagger or focus, so u can choose what u will equip.

As i posted earlier this is a dungeon/fractals build. Please dont forget that.

I’m glad you and your friends like these builds!
I was looking for cheaper way to run dungeons with same DPS as with Runes of Strength.
I hope more people try these builds and buy Flame Legion runes at least for Elementalist and Guardian as a cheap alternative of Strength Runes.

I’m glad you and your friends like these builds!
I was looking for cheaper way to run dungeons with same DPS as with Runes of Strength.
I hope more people try these builds and buy Flame Legion runes at least for Elementalist and Guardian as a cheap alternative of Strength Runes.

Of course if you try this in wvw, you will have a serious problem surviving :P

These are Dungeon Builds my friend.
Sorry to dissappoint you though.
Edited the 1st post

Dungeon only Builds! Please keep that in mind.

GS+Sword/Focus!

A) This is the DPS Guardian Build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNAR8dlsApUotCxQIEENR8QlVKa9H8CtQ1BQD8oA-TBSBABUq+jZKBvS53N7PgnujFOQAA8EAy7iAIGA9A-e

B) This is the Supportive-“More Help for Group” Guardian Build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNAR8dlsApUotCxZIEENR8Ql7Y8i2+BtQlBQDA-TBSBABUq+jZKBvS53N7PgnujFOQAA8EAy7iAIGA9A-e

Hammer+Greatsword

A)This is the DPS “Hammer Build”
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQJASRlsApUotCxXIEENR8gY7nX1GoBmP3C-TBSBABUq+jZKBvS53N7PgnuiFOQAA8EAy7SAIGA9A-e

B)This is the Supportive-Hammer Build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQJASRlsApUotCxXIEENR8Ql7Y8i2+BvQlBQDA-TBSBABUq+jZKBvS53N7PgnuiFOQAA8EAy7SAIGA9A-e

These builds proved to me and my friends that the strength runes are totally useless, because all the fights last less then 35 seconds with a decent DPS group.

If you like this post, you should visit my Elementalist Build suggestion.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Elementalist-Cheap-Dungeon-and-Fractal-Builds/first#post4057936

EDIT: The point here is to see the Runes not the traits or the gear.
Flame Legion runes instead of Strength.

Dungeon only Builds! Please keep that in mind.

This is the Conjurer Elementalist Build (Conjure Weapons)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fFAQJArYnMISZD2yAGQAfEGQAQo+sZ0BBEmqDA-TBSBABiq+jZKBvS53N7PgneiFOQAA8AAy7EAIGA9A-e

If you dont like that option, you can always choose the DPS Elementalist Build (you can choose s/d or d/d)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fFAQJArYnMISZD2yA+MAfEGQAICHUcM6WcaXGA-TBCEABJq+zWKBZS5HL7PIxBCoNdEAcABc7BAIGA9A-e

These builds proved to me and my friends that the strength runes are totally useless, because all the fights last less then 35 seconds with a decent DPS group.

If you like this post, you should visit my guardian build suggestion.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/Guardian-Cheap-Dungeon-and-Fractal-Builds/first#post4057340

EDIT: The point here is to see the Runes not the traits or the gear.
Flame Legion runes instead of Strength.