Guild Wars 2

Save the world from the biggest undead dragon the world has ever seen: Get a few greens and a token for a yellow.

Attend (or get disconnected during) a one time event featuring an oversized crab: Obtain wealth beyond believe.

Gotta agree with everything you said here!

cesmode.4257:

Well, I just posted a thread about being uninformed as to where to go, how to contribute, and what types of rewards I could receive… I had no idea people had such a high chance at receiving exotics and legendary precursors. I didnt attend the final event because of the lag and bugs of the previous phases, but I would have made more of an effort if I knew I had a chance at those precursors…so I feel very uninformed and left out.

Same here, I didn’t even bothered logging in at sunday because I couldn’t even complete phase 1 with all the bugged npc’s that didn’t get fixed (Despite Anet claiming that they fixed them). And the initial event in Lion’s arch was a big UNFUN lag fest. Bam, turns out I missed on the biggest reward ever given in Guild Wars 2 just because I wasn’t there at a specific point of time.

This combined with Anet’s inability to fix the many ills that plague the Elementalist (instead, only introducing more bugs with each patch) has severely decreased my motivation to keep playing. I was such a big fan of this game before, but Anet is trying its kitten hardest to make people stop playing it seems.

The only correct answer to the question is:
The devs don’t care about the elementalist. Play a different class.

ThiBash.5634:

The thing I dislike most about all of this is how bitter I’ve become about the game. Between the needless ascended gear stat increase, the removal of Evasive Arcana and the one-time event grind for a best-in-slot accesory, I’m actually considering asking for a refund as well. Something I never thought would happen.

Refund aside (which is kind of silly at this point) I so agree with this. I’m seriously considering to just stop playing the game and only keep the fun memories. Cause right now all I am getting out of GW2 is frustration at Anet.
The devs don’t communicate, they don’t have a clue what they are doing with the elementalist. They just don’t care
So why should we?

After wasting time and silver on this, I couldn’t complete this event at all due to the npc’s being bugged all the way to the mists and back. And then they ‘fixed it’ but it was still broken. More time, energy and silver wasted.
Couldn’t even finish the bloody quest before the timer ran out for this.

What a joke.

Nothing, because the old ‘cant join the same dungeon if people are in the overflow’ bug that anet supposedly fixed so long ago has been present ever since the halloween event and completely stopped my parties attempt at doing this dungeon dead in its tracks.

I’d love to be actually able to do it though. Maybe after this weekend…

So these npc’s are supposed to be fixed huh?
Well tough luck, both npc’s that I still needed to do are still bugged (and thats not noll, I got lucky on that one). The underwater one is now stuck in his krait patrol event and that plant guy just does nothing.
Great job ‘fixing it’, can I get a refund on all that silver I wasted waypointing to these locations?

You guys should all just spam their twitter with this stuff (I would but I dont do social media). Clearly they read that and clearly they don’t give a rats kitten about this forum.
Its truely a sad state of affairs and it seriously put a nail in the coffin of me ever spending anymore more real money into guild wars.
I had faith, I refused to believe that anet could be this incompetent for long. But hey, they keep proving me wrong.

I find it just plain insulting that they have dedicated time in two patches to take this skill from ‘Occasionally useful in dungeons and WvW but buggy and with a long CD’ to ‘Completely effin’ useless, STILL buggy&absurd CD’. And they couldn’t even take the time to get the tooltip right

The main thing why I don’t buy anything from the gem store is because there is -nothing I want from it-. All the skins are all kind of scrappy and go on the towns clothing slot that I never want to walk in. (I didn’t spend all this gold and tokens to look good in armor for nothing!) Most of the headgear looks absolutely horrible because it makes your character’s hair disappear! My pretty elementalist suddenly looks like a bald redneck when she puts on the GW2 cap. What was Anet thinking with this?

And when you calculate the gems per gold ratio, its so much better to just spend an hour doing 3 AC runs and transfer that into gems, than to spend 5 euro on a few gems that allows you to buy like 1-2 items from the store.
If the plan was to activately discourage buying gems with real money, they’ve succeeded greatly so far!

Isn’t it the same guy that does that announcer voice for PvP?

I did CoE yesterday for the first time.
I almost fell asleep during this part. The shield stays down for a full 10 seconds, so only two people can effectively stay down and do damage on this guy. It takes for eeeeever to kill him this way.
Either bloody up the time the shield stays down so the three on the lasers can come down. Or reduce his HP by 60%

And while I’m complaining about this dungeon anyway. Subject Alpha is about as unfun as it can be. It’s not really challenging, he just has too much effin HP! It takes forever to bring him down. So boring it hurts.

Dear Anet, make dungeons Fun instead of Unfun please. Giving monsters 12098312094y672198346 hp isn’t adding to the challenge nor is it adding to the fun.

Arighty cool.
Now how much duration do these 16 stacks of might have left when you actually get to the enemy?

“That “rep” you want to see develop for Trahearne is already there story wise. Trahearne has a long history with all 3 Orders before GW2 story began but Anet only showed a small part of that long history through dialogues.”

When you join the priory he has a brief conversation about some kind of escaped experiment that he apparantly helped with. Which I guess puts the whole order forever in his debt. Now think for a moment how many priory/vigil/whispers you have helped out in your travels, be it through quest hearts or events.
Yeaaaah… suddenly you just gotta wonder why the orders aren’t forever in your debt. (paying you a lousy 2s each time isn’t quite going to cut it I think)

I saw the pact weapons just now and I facepalmed so hard when I saw the stats. Rares with Precision/vitality/healing power stats. Really? Not even an exotic? No various versions with different stats?
What if I’m dualwielding the same weapon?

Sigh, why do I still bother I wonder. Is it really too hard to ask for a single exotic for saving the world from an elder dragon?
And to think we had to wait so long for this.

“Air Pocket: This skill no longer allows players to shadowstep out of water.”

This was literally all I ever used this skill for. To skip one route of the WvW jumping puizzle. I seriously do not see an other proper use for this skill outside of that. So yay for this utility skill losing its only utility I guess.

“Glyph of Renewal: This skill no longer resurrects dead allies; it only revives downed ones.”
Wait what, didn’t they already like… did that a few patches ago?
Nobody is using the kitten thing anymore anyway. Just remove it from the game already.

At least now we have a useable down state. Hooray.

I played a bit of warrior in sPVP, being a glass cannon with a… rifle.
Even with everything specced into power and precision I’m still left with 22k health. I once critted a poor soul for 12k damage with killshot. And its not like I’m helpless in melee range either, just pull out the greatsword, hit frenzy and go 100b on someone. Even when im downed I get this final kitten you with the vengeance skill (and hammer throw to interrupt a stomp).
And even though I’m bad at playing warrior (I just threw in some signets for utilities for the remaining slots because hell, I dunno, passive effects and stuff I guess) I feel so much more effective and beefier than I would ever feel playing a glass cannon elementalist in sPVP

Get back into my staff Shockwave. Nobody told you that you could come out of it!

roqoco.4053:

Hey, down Fido! I did say I sucked at it. You may be right, its hard to tell as many people greatly exaggerate their woes, presumably in order to persuade Arenanet to give them some mega buff.

The thing with the elementalist is that when you first roll one you’re reaction is probably going to be “Holy kitten! I am the master of Earth and Water, Fire and Wind! Look at those monsters melt away before me! This is so much fun!” But the more you level up… the worse the elementalist starts scaling to the content. And when you finally arrive in Orr you’ll be constantly cursing as that unkitable Risen Squire is all in your face about it. And when your slow kitten channeling spells keep getting interrupted by that Purifier with his kittenly annoying pull CC. Hell, walking anywhere in Orr is just a thousand mile cryout in pain with an elementalist.

In PvP there’s just a whole other can of problems that I wont even go into.
At least WvW is pretty good (If you are shoehorned into the staff support/siege weapon role)

takatsu.9416

Every class indeed has issues but what bugs me is seeing patch notes where other classes has again and again been worked on whether it is buff or nerf there was some detailed adjustments where as at most we get one line which is absolutely besides any real issues or bugs or feedback or balancing. In this case our one most common viable effective weapon people trust gets nerfed (perhaps accidentally) by a significant amount relative to results. Now other classes may have also had been overlooked. If you have then you too should have some attention on some fixes. We’re not asking for everything to be done to please us all at once, I’m asking for a little attention here and there slowly fixing up some of the issues in ALL classes, one item at a time equally

Mate, I completely agree. But unforunately it doesn’t seem like Anet has any clue what they are doing right now. Hell, right now I’m sure the elementalists at this point would rather see them not getting any changes in the patch notes than getting all these “bug fixes” that just nerf them into the ground even more. Especially when there is this long list of bugs that actually need fixing.
Right now classes either get nothing in the patches, or they get stuff that just screws them over. It’s not a great situation for anyone. (Except warriors, check their forum out. Its filled with kittens and rainbows because they have so little to complain about)

Uh, no ‘sizeable buff’ was promised at all. And it only enhances a single weapon which doesn’t exactly help the elementalists that aren’t specced for close quarter combat with daggers at all.
And while a down state rework is very much needed, it only solves 1 out of many things that actually need to be done.

Here’s the fun part about the ele bashers: They’ve actually played the class for more then 10 minutes. Saying “Have just started one” invalidates your opinion from the get go. Come back when you’ve leveled one up to level through PvE and did some WvW and PvP in addition to that. Then roll a warrior or a thief.

Elementalists have the lowest survivability, lowest damage and are plagued by few bugs on core skills since the beta (Ride the lighting for example). And while I’m sure every class has some issues of their own. You ranger folks really have it good in comparison to the Elementalists, trust me.

Dual Dagger and Scepter Dagger

How can you even really determine if a class is OP in one BWE? It seems kinda funny considering how their stance is ‘letting the meta develop’

Next patch notes:
Fixed the damage description in the arcane wave tool tip to properly reflect the actual damage it is doing.

I dunno man, I friggin love my tomes.
If you think Guardians have it bad with elite skills, try playing an elementalist.
Tome of courage is amazing if you are one of those annoying buggers (like me) that do nothing but capture and HOLD the point by being an unkillable and unmovable object.

Last patch has now confirmed my believe that none of the devs are looking at this handy list we’ve compiled for them. Thus leaving all of your efforts kinda pointless

I actually laughed out loud.
Cause I completely remember someone jokingly posting a while ago “They’ll probably nerf whirlpool next, since its our only useful/power elite skill”. Lo and behold! Anet in their infinite wisdom has made it happen.

Glyph of Renewal is also incredibly funny. The only actual use that utility had was doing a triple revive in WvW with earth attunement. Casting it with Air was broken anyway. Then it would go on a LONG cooldown, leaving you unable to use one of your oh so much needed utility slots for that time. It was already barely useable. But now Anet in their eternal wisdom decided to make it completely useless by only letting it work on downed, not dead players. You might as well just walk over to your ally, pop arcane shield and help him up normally. Cause he is probably going to be dead by the time you actually finish casting the spell otherwise.

The rest of these ‘bugfixes’ are completely laughable with the long list of Actual important bugs that need fixing with this class.

Honestly. Yeah, I’m done with elementalist. I’ll just got play some other class instead until maybe Anet stops being dumb and gets their act together.
Right now they seem to be having absolutely no clue on what they are actually doing. No kittening clue at all.

Rainshine.5493:

Cool combo Spoon! I really am fond of that Vigil bottom. When I get around to being able to afford multiple gearsets for multiple builds, one of ’em will use that for sure.

Thanks
And yes, agreed. Why I personally really like the bottom Vigil armor part is because it sort of looks like its an actual functional piece of armor. Yet at the same time it nicely shows off the allure of the female form. (Hell, its pretty much a direct panty shot if you look at it from the side)
‘Subtle sex appeal’ maybe? :p

Ye gods, it took me forever of saving up just to afford the cultural chest piece. But I’m now pretty happy with how my ele looks. Don’t think I’ll be changing anything about her in the near future.

(I approve how this thread is like 60-70% about pretty ladies )

Woah woah, what is my eye seeing? The first dev message on the state of the elementalist?! Complete and utter radio silence broken?! Some kind of improvement promised for the elementalist down state?!

Gentlemen, this is a day to remember.

Awesome.
Thanks for the reply&info!

What personally kind of bothered me is even though I’m supposed to be a vigil warmaster. None of the vigil soldiers out there in the world seem to acknowledge this at all. They will adress my character exactly the same as any other person.
Aside from the fact that I can buy vigil weapons/armor and am allowed in through the asura gate to fort trinity, there is nothing that makes me feel that I’m part of the vigil outside of the personal story line.

What’s actually funny about this is that it shows how unpowered the elementalist is and not so much that it is an issue with quest itself.

Cal.1985:

Any update on the updated rewards for the people that completed personal story?

Quoting this.

Anet’s radio silence after telling us that you guys would look into the issue is getting pretty bad.

I’d rather see it get a large range increase. 2000 or something would be cool.
Playing with its unlimited range due to its bug for a week was the most fun I’ve ever had with the skill. Tagging monsters from a far away place, sniping low health players during a WvW siege etc. It was great and it convinced me that this skill is best used as a long range lighting sniper rifle as sorts.

No… Not not really
Just now, I was actually lamenting the fact that I was nearly dying in a level 50 area with my level 80 elementalist because I took on 3 spread out ranged mobs at once.

Whereas with my guardian I can do this with so much ease that I actually get out of the fight with full health and without all my utilities on cooldown.

Must be in your head bro.

My character’s latest attempt at losing weight has gone horrible wrong!

So yeah, these scale legs are bugged pretty bad.

Aaand this didn’t seemed to have been fixed in the last patch either.
The howling wolf will get proc’d occasionally but no boons to yourself or nearby allies are given.

I must admit, I lol’d a little Westley.

I’ll join the angry voices.
Lighting surge was broken, sure. But hell, I’ve had more fun using (abusing) that skill this last week than I’ve had playing the rest of my elementalist. We’ve got kitten traits, underwhelming damage combined with underwhelming survivability . A whole list of documented bugs in a stickied thread.

What do we get?
The only bug that was beneficial to us in any kind of way gets speed fixed. Nothing on all the bugs that affect us negatively. No comments from Anet or anything. No nothing.

I though pretty highly of Anet but that feeling is declining rapidly with each patch.

At least TALK TO US, Anet.

I don’t know about you guys, but Glyph of Renewal air attuntement never works for me. Not when I’m 100 meters away from them and not when I’m 1200 meters away from them. The skill will do its casting animation, nothing will happen and it will then enter its kitten long cooldown.

This skill also has the annoying habbit of ressing whoever is closest (I had a dead player targeted but instead the skill resurrected a dead npc that was slightly closer.)
Also, fire resses the target at full health. Making the water version redundant (because the fire version also gives you that extra boon)

Additionally, it would be very nice if the skill would prompt you that there are no targets in range to rez instead of casting and going on cooldown because you were too far away from the target.

Champion mobs are a waste of time. They don’t drop anything of worth and they just take a long time to put down.
It’s worth way more to just kill a whole bunch of enemies in a defense event because you get the same loot, only 50 times as much

I actually send a bug report about the reaper of grenth because I thought it as bugged.
I thought it would be something similar to the necromancer lich skill or Avatar of Melandru.

Nope! Instead its an incredibly unimpressive black shroud around you with an effect that isn’t even noticable if aren’t hugging your enemies. It’s also over before you can blink. “This counts as an elite skill?” Is all that crossed my mind.

I for one think that Justin’s suggestion is excellent.

All I’m seeing here is “Hurr I’m so cool and elitists, all the baddies and casuals have no business here.” plus a bunch of assumptions and dumbness that I won’t even bother replying to. But since you seem to assume so I’ll just clear up that I’m not a casual player with little time on my hands. Sorry to disappoint ya
But I’m not so narrow minded that I cannot see the very valid points the OP is making.

(which it is, 90% of you wouldn’t do dungeons or be whining if there was no aesthetic based reward)

You actually thing anyone would be doing dungeon runs if there wasn’t any kind of reward for doing it? That’s hilariously delusional.

Because they hate you. I can’t think of any other reason.

You went into fullkittenmode once you hit the WvW part. Aside from the fact that it isnt a proper comparison at all (30 minutes of WvW play can be both fun and rewarding, whereas a 30 minute incomplete dungeon run is not) you are comparing a PvE vs a PvP situation.

I don’t get where your sense of entitlement comes from that you want to deny people that don’t have hours upon hours to spend on grinding and/or social engineering the ability to get cool stuff. That’s being elitist alright.

What they don’t have, however, is the time or desire to do the social engineering necessary to somehow get themselves into a static dungeon group of 5 skilled players.

This, this so many times.
I just spend like a full 30 minutes trying to organize a group for Arah explore. All of us pretty much only did shard farming before this so we opted to go with the warden route again, since knew what to expect for at least part of that.
But then we met the Giganticus lupicus. This giant chicken kicked ourkitten so hard. After three tries one of our group ragequit and we had gotten exactly zero gains for our efforts. Did we had fun? Maybe with the passing around of the orbs to open the gates. But the rest of the trip was painfully slow and boring pulling of one mob at the time to make progress.

What this learned me is that I apparantly need to have a specific set of gear so my weak elementalist doesn’t die when lupicus sneezes in my direction and that I need to find a very specific group of people that have experience with this dungeon. I simply have no desire to spend a full hour interviewing people if they are ready to take down one specific boss.

I still recall one quote from Anet in which they said that they didn’t wanted to have a “looking for fun” kind of deal in GW2. Yet here we are, required to spend a lot of time on social engineering because else we simply have no chance of getting the cool stuff.
No sir I don’t enjoy that at all.

A lot of complaining would be silenced if one of the Anet devs came down to this forum and actually spoke with us about the issues we are having with the elementalist.
Instead we get radio silence and nothing in patches to indicate they care.