Guild Wars 2

Arena-net dev had acknowledged it in that engineer / legendary thread but who knows how much priority they give it.

Initially when they implemented culling fix, the lag was occasional & sometimes not prevalent in all large battles. The duration was also relatively short & intermittent. Subsequent patches have made it really bad … the lag seems to affect everyone on voice comms and it persist for a long long time especially in keep fights.

Props to Arena-net for coming through on this. Very big difference from culling perspective and most of us don’t mind occasional skill lag and frame loss in certain situations.

Footage as T1 groups converged on first day of post culling patch. Scenes in this video were chosen to capture depth of field ( friend and foe ) as well as entertaining battle sequences.

Additonal battlefield sequences :
1:45
2:53
3:55
6:19
11:10

I used to do the daily Ori run ( fast ) + occasional other income earner for funds. At times we would pool funds for upgrades. I used to WvW alot back then and visible so no issues getting cooperation back then. Fairly common for commanders of large guilds to volunteer funds as well.

However during the decline of SBI when many people tuned out it was hard getting upgrades going because you knew stuff would get flipped as we had no players to defend.
No players to defend upgrades structures is pointless.

On Jade Quarry with SF, guild leadership ask if members need gold for big upgrades.

MarMaster.6241:

Stovokor.9368:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4fTxRMeBuM

No Culling – T1 Megafights

Showcasing large scale battles as everyone eagerly tried to converge on first day of post culling patch. Scenes in this video were chosen to capture depth of field ( friend and foe ) as well as entertaining battle sequences.

That was impressive!!! (3 !)

Will pass it on to folks in the video. Thanks

Miiaah.5416:

Stovokor.9368:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4fTxRMeBuM

No Culling – T1 Megafights

Showcasing large scale battles as everyone eagerly tried to converge on first day of post culling patch. Scenes in this video were chosen to capture depth of field ( friend and foe ) as well as entertaining battle sequences.

Nice video! I like they way it showcases the different styles the servers operate at. SoR /JQ and its mega zerg mentality and BG in much smaller groups. While video from your front line Guardian is very exciting you should have some rear echelon players capture some so we can see the Zerge vs Zerg fight from a more epic perspective. That mini map with the green blob was insane.

Thanks. Ye that style perhaps for that time period.

BG actually had large zerg out on patch day as well but it seemed many BG came on earlier for WvW patch. Ran into them a few times while following PRX commander around early. Later the combined BG zerg that was on at 9pm EST hitting Bay inner was sizeable as well. Reduced numbers after that iirc. Couldn’t include all the footage I captured.

As for the rear echelon players perspective, ye you are right.

Ye thanks Arena-net. I was very happy yesterday to be able to partake in some truly epic large scale battles and have full view of all enemy forces. There were occasional periods of skill lag ( not always ) but it did not happen in every encounter. This is what it looked like in Tier 1 yesterday.

No Culling – T1 Megafights_

No Culling – T1 Megafights

Showcasing large scale battles as everyone eagerly tried to converge on first day of post culling patch. Scenes in this video were chosen to capture depth of field ( friend and foe ) as well as entertaining battle sequences. There were many great large scale engagements that day, manage to cram a few of them in this video.

No Culling – T1 Megafights

Showcasing large scale battles as everyone eagerly tried to converge on first day of post culling patch. Scenes in this video were chosen to capture depth of field ( friend and foe ) as well as entertaining battle sequences.

Jscull.2514:

Cheers to the guys that run in the 2-3 mans. But I cannot for the life of me realize why people post videos of 10 mans, facing other 10-20 zergs and call it “small scale roaming”? As one of my guys said, "Group size is 5, AoE ca kitten , buff/condition removal ca kitten , it takes about 5 guys with supply to build any siege…. 2 questions for you all…
1. Why when this thread asks for small roaming videos do people throw up videos of zerg fighting with 10+?
2. How is fighting with 10 people a challenge at all unless you are facing 40? (Which then is so far out of the “small scale roaming” realm its silly)

Of the 8 videos I viewed, I saw one of an actual 5 man put up by “Tricare.2946” (zero other teal adds) taking on double their number and putting up a solid effort and getting stomps…..how few is the number of people left in gw2 that want to rely souly on 4 other guys to win whatever they come across?

Can we get a WvW video mega thread of small roaming teams and gvg and what not, I’m tired of looking through each individual thread for videos/channels.

Didn’t seem very specific, maybe that’s why. Probably mistook as wanted the gamut of WvW videos …

1. ) Title says WvW Videos
2. ) He says can we get WvW video mega thread
3. ) He mentions " and what not " in addition to roaming and also GvG ( many of the GvG videos guilds have put up thus far have been larger scale 10 – 20 people. )

I really think it is unintentional on people part if in fact only looking for roaming videos here.

Here is one from one of our guys. Necro roamer includes 1 v1 / 1v 2 / 1 vs 4 / 2 vs X
Nice stuff from 2:00 onwards

If you guys prefer upper tiers and want to make a difference head to SoR. They are a strong server that needs coverage at SEA.

- I am from JQ

Strike Force

March 16 – Top 15 fights just from 3 hour stretch

Guild Wars 2 : Jade Quarry Tales From The Frontlines

Congrats to Blackgate on the win. Phenomenal push in last 24 hours !! Was expecting a let off at some point but you guys applied the pressure throughout.

Thanks for those awesome guides. Go to spot for crafting

Footage taken from 3 hours stretch on March 16. Strike Force responds and engages in back to back battles over an intense period involving many guilds. We had initially started off slow but after 20 minutes we manage to organize.

Strike Force – March 16

Props to the guilds and players engaged on the field that day.

Footage taken from 3 hours stretch on March 16. SF had a rocky start but after 20 minutes, more of the crew showed up and we organized. Video incorporates fifteen of the best encounters during that period involving various guilds.
Casual night never works out haha

Strike Force – 16 March : Fifteen encounters

the first time enemy invite was surprising for me2. Was sometime last year solo guarding a camp. One guy jumps me but it goes my way. Then he whispers and says to wait so he can bring his other character. Unfortunately in the middle of 2nd fight he gets owned by another of our guys passing through the camp.

guess Arenanet failed in fixing this properly if the initial reporting feature fix is being circumvented. While I like the duels If someone can observe & report enemy movements its obviously not intended for WvW

One of our Engi’s posted this internally but these fights look awesome. Involves SF, TW, KnT and FEAR

" Last night was the first night I got around to running my Engineer with the zerg. I built it to screw around in havoc groups but it turns out the build is a kittenload of fun in zerg warfare. Especially cleaning up downies. Enjoy! "

One of our Engi’s posted this internally but these fights look pretty kitten awesome. Involves SF, TW, KnT and FEAR

" Last night was the first night I got around to running my Engineer with the zerg. I built it to screw around in havoc groups but it turns out the build is a kittenload of fun in zerg warfare. Especially cleaning up downies. Enjoy! "

google.3709:

a couple of weeks ago, ectos were at 38s with peaks up to 42s, now they are currently at 27s , ecto price has in fact dropped by a lot

^ this

Jade Quarry : Tales from the Frontline

Some intense WvW fights in open field and also nasty choke-points

Troll Wars : 0:00
Ambushed at Bay : 4:17
Heavy Skirmishes at Spawn Camp : 5:40
Garrison Water Breached : 7:41
Tower Carnage : 8:26

Perspective of heavy skirmisher Guardian wielding Hammer / Mace

Sardonia.8196:

score update anyone

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/Stovo/Guild%20Wars%202/GW2_W25/855am_EST_zpse842545c.jpg

Pixels.6532:

Consortium Analysts Downgrade Blackgate over Debt Concerns

(Toonberg Press – LA, 13:45) In a surprise move this morning, Consortium Analysts (CA) announced a downgrade on Blackgate sending the Black Lion Trading Co into a torrent of activity. As of this posting, Blackgate shares are down nearly 25% (BGSOS) on the year. CA analysts cited Blackgate’s recent spike in debt as the reason after the server took out an extensive loan from Zomorros Holdings to sign several key free agent guilds.

Adding to the intrigue, Citadel Investments (CI) refused to follow suit citing Blackgate’s strong Tier 1 performance and increased loot drops in WvW. “Yes, they’re leveraged, but we aren’t worried. If anything, we expect a strong earnings forecast next quarter based on what we’re seeing,” said Marcus Soul-Ripper, chief investment analyst at CI.

Blackgate CEO Jorga Steamburner, an ash legion charr, is not concerned. “Our performance speaks for itself. We are aware of the situation and are monitoring it. Both Icoa and LotD have 5 man teams running CoF 24/7, our gold reserves are fine, and we’ll have no solvency issues once we liquidate those Molten Cores.”

The announcement went mostly unnoticed on the server itself. Blackgate members are too busy maintaining their week one lead of Tier1 and arguing with their competition about who is better at mashing buttons. Or as Norn BG member Charleson of Sheen put it, “Winning!”

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^ full of win

bearcow.2907:

Stovokor.9368:

Jade Quarry : Tales From The Frontline

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs6BMG7ghIc

Finally, a good vid of another frontline guardian using shouts.

I assume your using soldier’s runes as well?

Thanks. Yes ‘normally’ I’m running soldier runes. Most of the others you see in the video are running soldier runes as well.
In this instance I was not in my ‘soldier rune gear’ as it was first time test for Mace and Shield. Guild-mates put up a build so running other runes as they recommended.

Jade Quarry : Tales From The Frontline

Reports confirming heavy fighting in Blackgate borderlands – March 04 2013
Intel Indicates :

Troll Wars : 0:00
Ambushed at Bay : 4:17
Heavy Skirmishes at Spawn Camp : 5:40
Garrison Water Breached : 7:41
Tower Carnage : 8:26

This sensitive info should be viewed under 1080p HD

OMG, don’t let Blackgate take pole position going into the match

Some players have put it more diplomatically and eloquently but for me and others I’ve talked to no retroactive alignment seems like no planning or deliberate withholding of information.

WvW was already neglected on the rewards side & also no timely WvW release to match PvE content.

Despite being behind the curve for so long, no information about WvW progression was forthcoming . I enjoy WvW but how this whole thing has played out is deeply disappointing.

Nice video Mohmohchan. I envy how smooth everything looks haha

I have some T1 footage as well. The fight itself was unexpected & pretty glorious for those of us there. ( visible in the chat comments ). Supposed to be something simple but turned into crazy. Video is more about showcasing that particular fight rather then my average skill level.

SF : Good Times Vol 1 :
http://youtu.be/avPL4We-jmA

Le Rooster.8715:

Seeing as no one has posted in defence of this issue i just want to let all of those on Sea of Sorrows know that the server is not going downhill, yes we had a hiccup and lost two guilds but when the dust cleares i believe we will be a stronger server. Essentially it’s a blessing in disguise because it’s making us work harder and become more united ie leading us to finally kickstart some schemes that should have been implemented along time ago.

Alright i’m out chao btw we ticked 385 tonight =)

Good to hear. Salute the tenacity, would be monumental if SoS pulls it off. Re-energizing the militia probably be one of the harder aspects.

kefro.9312:

wvwvw is going 24/7, but the points will go on 2 or 3 night with 500/600 points per tick so after some days is useless to even join in wvwvw.
The true score is what you see at weekend day time when the numbers are balanced. After that is just pure player vs doors if you are happy with that cause you win even when it was proved you were much worse when the players number is balanced… good for you.

At the time you posted this, JQ is the one leading on weekend. Its pretty competitive and not the mismatch you are describing. Do you WvW just to win on the overall score ?? Missing out on some fun if you say its useless to even join WvW after some days.

soma.3812:

Well this is the only wvwvw we got at the moment but soon there will be another…

LoL desperate attempts at misinformation

Like your web site SF
Especially the im queuing channel.
This is the wvw we have at the moment dont worry there will always be another server you can go to.

5 to 15 mins to get in today. Arena-net either did a stealth fix or maybe not as many players in game today. SF main channel is fun so most will chill there while waiting for 10 min pop

The channel you mention was for coordinating server transfers. Someone likely renamed it now.

kefro.9312:

This is sad JQ losing with full server vs outmaned buff in all bl and they will still win at the end of the week.
Sad part is they lose vs outmaned buff but can make 500points per tick vs empty…

Well this is the only wvwvw we got at the moment but soon there will be another…

LoL desperate attempts at misinformation
The PPT at North American time was back and forth for many hours between all 3 servers. Much of the time.. difference was marginal like 30 – 50 points between servers. JQ is hardly losing right now. SoS and SoR were doing their best to build a buffer which is the sensible thing to do.
Thing is, this particular week JQ will be weaker on the weekdays off-peak due to Chinese New Year. Same thing happened to SoS during Australia day when their Australian contigent was off and JQ took advantage.

!http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/Stovo/Guild%20Wars%202/GW2_W22%20JQ%20vs%20SoR%20vs%20SoS/M22_d2_NA1_zps34683b36.jpg!

!http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/Stovo/Guild%20Wars%202/GW2_W22%20JQ%20vs%20SoR%20vs%20SoS/M22_D2_NA2_zpse12fdb83.jpg!

Its about picking up points. Its also quite obvious the more established WvW SoS and SoR guilds that are coming up against a roadblock past few days are sending some unsuspecting server mates /guilds to a specific map to be slaughtered. A necessary evil for PPT …

This week is best opportunity to beat JQ. Week after this no so much

even within guilds, people have preference on this change. Personally happy Arena-net listened to feedback & did not go through with it mainly due to the duration of 1 week matches. Can’t imagine demolishing and demoralizing lower tier servers in that manner for months. All "novelty’ of fighting new groups etc would have worn off once you face the constant barrage of a "coverage’ server with many WvW guilds.

coronbale.3894:

Great recruitment once again JQ, enjoy roflstomping whatever poor T2-T3 ends up getting glicko-screwed into your tier next week. Well be back around to face you again soon! Until these ranks get sorted, it’ll be a bizarre set of match-ups. Eventually SoS will get the coveted BLUE portal on T1 slot, and we can keep those great open field fights coming!

you will be doing the same roflstomping onto similar servers. Not much difference to them whatever T1 server they end up against.

ps. recruitment is only reason that resulted in prior 10 weeks for SoS

Liquid.9672:

JQ has faced a total of 7 different opponents since the 1 week matches began. Ferguson’s Crossing 6. For some servers, I think the rating reset could create a little bit of fun for awhile if only to see some different opponents for a change. Yes there will be some blow outs, but I think some games will also be pretty good. Assuming the reset takes place, I’m personally looking forward to seeing some new server names up on the WvW match frame for a little while.

keyword being awhile. After the novelty wears off, reality of getting crushed for weeks is gonna be super fun in those mismatches. On the other end of the spectrum those WvW focused guilds in T1 will have exhilarating time fighting mostly casual guilds & doors. No offense intended but I think its gonna be rough.

hilariously bad if it plays out this way.
T4 wall preventing the likes of Kaineng / BG from matching up with Fort Aspenwood & TC

Latest Score. Time for various regions inc in screenshot

Latest Score @ 12:28am Sydney

MagiKarp.8201:

Basks in the QQ from JQ

No Oceanic presence? Hmm… 255 ppt vs SoS’s 275 (We hold SM…) Yeah… JQ has no oceanic presence what so ever! I agree.

This is already into period where Asian play. Additionally the ‘native’ coverage might not be accurate anymore if there is temporary momentum as players put in longer shifts as they close a gap. This is a screenshot from yesterday where JQ has no presence. ( timezones are listed on the screenshot ).

Today

JQ held majority of PPT lead for North American prime time. On EB, Strike Force was the guild presence for JQ with superb support from motivated players on the map. SF never got to field the numbers they wanted due to bugged que.( I manage to get in after 20 mins )

Choo was easily the largest presence on EB map. Sometimes they could afford to split their zerg in two. There were plenty of great fights between SF + JQ versus Choo. By the time I logged we were over 300 tick and had taken Stonemist. Just as I left, some of our NA players finally got que pop after few hours including Jed.

Yesterday
Hardly any que at NA prime-time. Superbowl probably a factor. During Oceanic timezone, JQ ppt dropped as usual to around 100ppt. Scarcely present on 2 maps. JQ lost alot of ground for hours. Six hours after ( deep into Asian / Euro crossover ) JQ started averaging 300 + ppt. That momentum seems to have continued today.

Timezone observation : JQ doesn’t really have any presence for oceanic and early Asian is undermanned. Way more Asian players transfered to SoR from SBI and Neverdie is on SoS.
All that 24/7 coverage stuff is inaccurate.

Late night Asian going into Euro tz is when JQ has superior numbers. There are short ques on some maps. Not sure what happens in Euro timezone for this matchup. The EU guild ( RG ) had posted a good-bye/ thanks thread on JQ.

The JQ timezone that received largest nett increase of transfers is North American.

Only a WvW player scouts patiently for hours at supply camp to buy the few seconds needed for a team response

Pity that nobody at arena-net able to see the upcoming disaster. Months of “volatility” is going to cause grief all around. Volatility is arena-net code for huge mismatches. The servers with coverage will get bored and those lower tier servers without coverage are truly gonna be discouraged by having to go through weeks of unnecessary mismatch. I mean morale is gonna take a hit.

Should be a less disruptive approach / duration to do this.

Kinda shame, this week we have a really close match in tier 1 that is balanced.

joocheese.6314:

I know the score was just posted, but can someone post the map as well? thanks!

Gap JQ to SoS ( 6k )
JQ to SoR ( 9 k )

covenn.7165:

It isn’t early American prime time yet. It isn’t even lunch time in the states yet.

Score update please

Unrelated but some perspective in regards to pre-emptive tears in this thread.
6 hours before this screenshot JQ was at 100 PPT. Yesterday ( weekend ) like any other day there were instances of undermanned. Winning T1 has always been about having the coverage or artificially creating it throughout the weak aka shifts.

Score Update @ 7:52am EST

Shaojack.3871:

The same way you get WvW’ers into PvE.
Simply put the best gear in the game in WvW and watch the attendance soar.

^
This should have been part of the equation. Release of content where best gear was attainable via both PvE and WvW.

How many PvE events /patches have there been ? Seems like NPCwars2 …

Now I have serious doubts if the player attrition could be reversed in a meaningful way.

Bump

Back to updating scores for SBI community so should get some regular updates there as well especially for Off-peak / Asian / Euro times

http://www.stormbluffisle.com/index.php/forum/wvw/1201-weekly-match-14-tier-1-latest-scores

Day 5 : 4:50am EST | Singapore 5:50pm | Korea 6:50pm | Sydney 8:50pm

Suun.2856:

I love just about all of the ideas here, and I believe they should be used.
I also have the same concerns.

I suspect that when WvW gets stale people will leave the game rather than move to sPvP or PvE. They may pop in from time to time but they will not risk dropping cash on a stale product. They may PvE with their friends but still wont risk dropping the cash.
In other words – stale product = stale cash flow, fresh product = fresh cash flow.

As WvW is not as casual as was first thought, and more competitive than envisioned…

{Pause for reflection and viewing of comments elsewhere in various forums}

After 3 weeks of zerging here and zerging there, and seeing some of the more recent comments here, there, and everywhere, and the idea of the individual having an impact outside of the zerg is not a well received idea, it is time to see if PvE can hold my interest for another map completion (unlikely).

Best of luck.

I have some concerns as well.

WvW feels like a stale product. Prior to the Karka event people that were not totally vested in WvW started spending less time there. That was medium impact because sometimes it could be countered by other WvW casuals that occasionally joined. But the fact that we have had three PvE updates ( with rewards ) and WvW is pretty much in its original state was very telling. The attrition accelerated after the Fractals came out. The funny thing is if you have a guild that is mixed PvE / WvW you would notice many players just don’t play much anymore or play at all. However now a vicious cycle has formed and its affecting even the most stalwart pure WvW holdouts. The overall situation also impacts players that WvW for the sake of it.

It would be naive to think overall population trends do not affect everyone. Eventually it will affect who you get to fight and length of competition you encounter. Once the novelty factor wears off …. many will experience reality of what others have already gone through.

There are many ideas here but the gist it Arena-net needs to act faster then February. Even some intermittent fix might kick-start interest. Rewards and Fresh Features seem to be the two main areas that usually resonate with players.

Most other MMO have never been able to recover once players start leaving in large numbers. At that point even offering something for free has only turned those games into niche products. GW2 had an amazing launch product …. they really need to rectify this misstep ASAP.

Day 2 :

Score ~ 8 am EST / 9 pm Singapore / 10 pm Korea / 12 am Sydney

Also moved internal pics to public section of SBI community site. These usually have off hour updates.

http://www.stormbluffisle.com/index.php/forum/wvw/1120-weekly-match-12-sbi-sos-jq-scores-pics#10854