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Id put
mesmer, ele and rev on first.
Scrapper, necro and druid second.
Thief on third.
DH fourth.I dont think we are going to see warrior that often. So Im not really listing it.
But maybe apex will surprise us again.
Apex isn’t in pro-league this season.
Seems like it was your bad for letting them kill it.
As a counterpoint I would argue that Eurantien, a pro who has more experience on ranger/druid than these two players combined doesn’t usually run S&R on his bar. So i’d say go with what you like.
I honestly think that the despite being counter comped, a huge reason your team (Final Form) lost to Spookie was because of this bug abuse. I don’t have the keenest eye but given the duration of the matches and the fact Spookie had 2 necromancers I can guarantee this was a factor. I guess thats gw2 esports for yah. Whoever plays the OP stuff/bug abuses more wins!
Wouldn’t be surprised if more teams started using necro.
I am not in Pro Leagues, I’m not even a very good PvPer but there is something I HATE in this game, BUGS. Watching the games I just don’t see how some of these bugs aren’t being priority fixed. Namely there were two big ones that I noticed.
1. Signet of Vampirism (Necromancer Signet Heal) Corrupts boons with INFINITE RANGE regardless of Line of Sight or Dodging. With so many reapers in the scene it seems absurd that this has not been fixed. I haven’t picked it apart but there are definitely situations where a stab/might corrupt or something from across the map could turn a fight that would have been otherwise won if this bug didn’t exist!
2. Ancestral Grace (Ranger Staff 3) puts druids in combat. I mainly noticed this at the start of ranger matches where rangers could be put into combat when the game started allowing them to prepare certain weapon swap sigils like doom and/or slowing them from reaching the nodes before their enemies. So this is both a bug abuse and a hinderance.
I’m sure there are other bugs that I don’t have listed here that I didn’t notice that can give teams an advantange.
Gonna be awkward for you when NA gets 1st and 2nd over EU in the season finals.
@ Morwath. I heard a recently formed NA teams actually went 3-3 with Abjured in a recent scrimm.
Depending on the amount of teams, double elimination should be considered.
Nah I don’t I just disagree with the best PvPer ever statement. I think there are other players who are better and probably other druids who are better.
I’m saying he couldn’t even 1 v 1 a good reaper. I just don’t think his build is good and think that other players who play high risk high rewards are actually better pvpers than those who role to the flavor of the month low risk high reward.
Then in comes Noscoc, and he gets slaughtered.
This would be sweeet!
Only plays easy mode cheese
“Best player ever”
I don’t think so.
His druid build isn’t even good.
DH traps are just broken w/o cast times.
All ranger and thief traps have cast time. I don’t understand how DH traps are instant.Traps are designed to be strong because they need to be triggered. DH’s instant-cast trap really trivializes the trap usage.
Proposal: Please put every DH trap cast time on 1/2 sec.
This. All traps should have cast times!
Buuuut the DH is behind a wall and starts to lay a trap and ports to you. Its an instant trap!
I think they would feel like traps if they couldn’t be insta cast on top of you via teleport.
Hit [insert your invlun or block/stab combo] and walk through traps, proceed to kill DH.
Traps are unblockable and daze you. If a player is to [insert block/stab combo] and they get bursted the odds are that their block will be interrupted and they might actually have all their stab stacks burned through… That leaves [insert invuln here]. Not every class has access to invulns for 1. and 2. An invuln on a 60s CD < trap CDs. Favor: Dragon Hunter.
I’m not so much talking about 1 v 1s as team fights. You are in a team fight, as a mesmer or something. You get jumped on by a dragon hunter… you are dead. There is nothing you can do.
What does one do when in a team fight as a dps and the dragon hunter teleports onto them?
But you can’t block, cause their traps will daze through your block. I feel like this is the strongest +1 class at the moment.
I have no idea. It just teleports in and blows people up with unblockable CC/damage…
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Bladed-Chest-Armor-Aquisition-Found/first#post5689116
Night time Tier 4. Seemed like everyone got a coat box!
Tier 4 night time in Verdant Brink.
Have to do:
Defend most camps
Escort troops if you can
Kill all the bosses
Seems everyone got a coat!
Things to counter druids:
CC Warriors
Condi/CC Berserkers
Any decent player on any build that can decap. There are key times where the rangers can’t evade like right before their sword 3 hits. Once decapped these druids do 0 damage and become worthless.
Any guardian rings: Lb 5, Hammer 5, Elite Trap.
Any focused burst.
Or maybe they could implement a feature where teams can still earn “pips” and rank up even if they lose but their team score is high enough. Maybe call it a league system? Then this wouldn’t really be a needed feature… oh wait.
If played well vs a necro there is no reason this build should lose. The numbers are too high. The only thing i’ve seen it get below 50% hp against was a chronomancer and the scrapper just healed back up to full pretty quick. There is no way a d/d ele could beat this as it currently is.
I’m just advocating for balance/counterplay. The only potential counterplay vs this is a necro atm and even then the scrapper still has a lot of condi clear.
Couldnt try Scrapper so far because i dont bought HoT yet, but OP´s numbers seem pretty inaccurate on the paper.
Sure HGH is able able to stack a good amount of might, but you guys calculating things like its perma 25 stacks? Maybe on a immobile golem where you use all elixirs off cooldown, autoattacking the crap out of it?
No sigill of battle, no mass momentum, no juggernaut, no fire fields, simply HGH and hoelbrak. This wont give you perma 25 stacks of might! More like an average of 10-12 stacks…This doesnt mean scrapper is fine or doesnt need to be toned down a little, but these kind of threads cant be taken seriously. Completly exaggerating and anyone who ever played HGH knows these numbers arent real. You know, things have cooldowns in GW, beeing able to stack some might or using super speed for heal doesnt mean its permanent maximized!
I’m not calculating the extra 470hp/s from super speed into the numbers. I am using the perma swiftness which is there along with the regeneration boon and backpack regenratot. I am also using perma 20-25 might. You can keep about 17-20 might stacks just rolling around then you factor in Hoelbrak might and auto elixir B adding in more might and you’re now at 20-25. Sure, you have to spam your Acid Bomb a bit but with your 6 elixirs in this build its really not hard to maintain high might stacks. Also, due to the tankiness if you want to spam to keep 25 up, you can go ahead and do that. Your regen, protection, and armor will keep you alive! Sure, players aren’t immobile golems, but they do have to sit on the node with you. LUCKILY your elixirs are AoE so its as if they are standing still! I encourage you to throw on HGH, these utilities, and try it yourself.
I’m sorry you find this thread can’t be taken seriously. I have attempted to post accurate numbers. Maybe you just need more experience on engi to keep track of your cds so you can get might stacks this high?
I didn’t even mention you can have permanent retal if you like.
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People who don’t say it puts out pressure… I never lost a 1 v 1 and would only die when bursted by 2 people. If I was against 2 bruisers I was winning with this spec. The damage is slightly higher than a maurader amulet as it has 200 extra power, the same crit chance (with fury) and the same ferocity. It has the same (slightly higher by 100 stats) condition damage as someone running carrion or rabid amulet. It has the same armor as someone running a clerics amulet. With the regen trait to give healing while it has swiftness and with backpack regenerator it is the equivalent of another class having regen with a healing power of 2,560. That doesn’t even mention the occasional superspeed heals or combo heals or healing turret use.
So basically you have (which I already stated)
Healing Power for just regen: 2560
Condition damage: 1300
Power: 2450
Armor: 3000
Ferocity: 560
Precision: 60%
If you say scrapper doesn’t have pressure… you aren’t playing conquest or you’re not playing it right.
The OP heals about this are regen 200 hp/s backpack regen 145 hp/s and swiftness regen 105 hp/s = 450 hp/s + 470 hp/s when it has superspeed + protection when it uses its 15 or 20s cd heal + prot on CC + its heal heal. Then it has super high damage too. The stats are just too dang high!
It’s actually Warrior 2.0
Remember 400hp/s healing signet? +all the other effects from traits etc.
Ah yes, looks like we are back to the axe bow 50% uptime on block reflect bug days!
Really? Just run Reaper. The entire elite spec hard counters Elementalists. I just love a perma slow on my weapon swapping.
This is scrapper. Takes 20% less damage from condis, Hoelbrak = 25% less Chill. Has condi clear on quite a few skills + transmute. Has CC, has protection to counter power. + from what i’ve seen this thing eats reapers.
Particularly this:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFASlUUhOvY1VwdLQ7FLTGF9cX37N40ldhk4zcABAA-TJhHwAAuAABeAAj2fwYZAA
25 might: 2485 Power, 1310 Condition Damage
Fury + 10% crit chance from bleeds: 60% Crit Chance
Adaptive Armor = + 500 Toughness: 3089 Armor
Protection when CC’d + When Healing
Regen on swiftness (perma swiftness) + regen on backpack regenerator + regen
= 450 hp/s. When superspeeded + 470 hp/s.
Heals from turret, elixir gun 5, mortar 5.
I’ve seen this thing like 1 v 3 people. Not sure how to counter it.
WTS CLASSES:
Elementalist: 13
Thief: 10
Engineer: 9
Warrior: 8
Guardian: 6
Necromancer: 4
Mesmer: 3
Ranger: 1
Some of these numbers are juuust slightly off because I don’t want to go through all the old vods, but this is based on: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_2_World_Tournament_Series and what I remember from the people who “multi-classed”. For those I didn’t list, odds are they were in the top 5 classes.
I have seen this guy around and know he has been playing for a long time so i’m not surprised that he has played enough games to get that many wins. What does surprise me is that after 10k wins… he isn’t as good as a lot of other people that have less than 5k wins.
this fiasco made me change my impression of a few people whom i thought were worth watching and supporting.
Yeah, these Kronos fanboys are annoying.
Top 2 builds were something like this I believe. Wasn’t sure on the sigils: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAsfRl0nhG1YZawENwtGLrG05RSyzNLx06Z5GKeAA-TpQSgAA7PAWGAA
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It seems there was blatant favoritism going on then. By not banning certain builds/traits mid tourney which were clearly overpowered, due to a lack of foresight, the admins were effectively favoring the mesmer participants.
Oopsy, did I just expose how mainy of the posters views are one sided, possibly favoring their mesmer friends in this tourney? I understand your perspective but anything can be spun and its not too hard to see that its possible that the mesmers were the ones being favored not the other way around. Quit expecting perfection and appreciate whats being done. Ungrateful close-minded kittens.
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They sent out an email. Their brackets broke so its been postponed until next monday.
Edit: They then sent out an email and put it back on because they fixed the brackets. So we both missed it!
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http://www.twitch.tv/gamewithstorm ???
Ha… Hahaha…. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Thank you for that, haven’t had a laugh like that in a while.
Rest of the list is legit.
Glad I’m not the only one that got a good laugh out of that. If you want a top ranger streamer twitch.tv/eurantien is probably the best there is.
Reason 1: Because only one team from NA was allowed to go? We’ve seen a ranger before, and although clearly not as effective as some things, he sure carried his team.
Reason 2: The current map rotation HEAVILY disfavors rangers. Forest is made for tanky comps that can LoS and teleport through or hit around walls. Kyhlo is where ranger shines due to how easy it is to snowball on Foefire. Yet that map is rarely one to get played.
A friend keyed me in on this guy. I’ve seen some stuff I’ve never seen before, but I think sometimes he acts a little “yolo”. That might just be the nature of solo queue though, sometimes I do the same things hahaha.
Try your 1 1 1 and Entangle and see if you can ever kill an Ele…
This self-proclaimed #1 Engi really knows his stuffs lol..
Ele = Jack of all trade, Master of all (offense, defense, CC, sustain, control, support all in one build)
Ranger = Jack of all trades , Master of None.
Also I’m quite sick of seeing people claiming Ele or Engi “need more skills to play” lol..
Clicking more bottoms =/= hard to play.
That’s the main problem I come up against. Of course I could shove a ranger into anywhere and it could do OK, which has often been the case. Now, it is a different story as wherever you shove this “jack of all trades” class you could just shove any other and they could ALL do it better. Even for stronghold, I don’t see a role for this class.
I don’t often post on the forums. I am a regular multi-classer with no true main. I often watch the vods of the tournaments and admire some of the plays that are pulled out by top teams (more often EU than in NA). One of the things I enjoy doing is thinking of the strategies these teams use and theorycraft other team compositions that could work. Most of the time, I can always think of a couple team comps for every profession with a variety of builds that might work if teams took the time to play the game a little differently. Traditionally the two classes that people seem to often put down is necromancer and ranger. In all my theorycrafting, every class always seems to find somewhere it can fit in the current meta.
Guardian: Great support (good skills, good range, decent CC) or great damage (medi/kinda burn guard).
Mesmer: Great utility (mass invis, moa, CC, boon rip, PORTAL) or now… I’ve seen some people attempting support mesmer (and remember an NA tourney where a support mesmer did quite well, even won? was that a 2 v 2 tourney? I don’t quite remember) but having looked at the traits it looks like it could be very strong.
Warrior: Good support (shouts, banner, CC) or good damage (RAMPAGE).
Elementalist: Good everything. This class is kind of the master of all trades.
Engineer: Jack of all trades, great damage dealer and cleave. Now… engis are kind of hurting but with good positioning I can still see them being just as valuable to a team because of all the utility their skills offer.
Thief: Great dps (stealth and damage) and great utility with all the stealth availability for teammates.
Necromancer: Although this class can be focused down they can be quite tanky (especially with plague) and they can do a suprising amount of damage still. This is one of those classes where they can be on the defensive one moment and then just turn the fight around with 1 fear and take you out. The Abjured makes a good show of how strong this class can be.
Ranger: Jack of all trades (like engi and ele) yet also the worst at everything… Rangers were in the meta when eles weren’t… now eles are quite strong and ranger support builds have been nerfed entirely. This leaves rangers with their old school homepoint? Maybe they go DPS? Yet no matter how I think about it, there is never a reason or a team comp that I couldn’t just replace the ranger for something better.
TL;DR:
Having thought of a lot of potential team comps, in the current iteration of balance, I can’t seem to find any reason to take a ranger in ANY comp. Has anyone else thought of anything?
Lol, too bad all those teams but one have or would lose to the Dankening and none of their members are on there (besides supcutire). Not even that ranger haha. Troll list is troll. Didn’t Dankening’s engi also 1 v 1 like all the top engis during tourneys? and he’s not top engis?
Half these players quit because they ended up not being good enough haha!
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