Guild Wars 2

I am so regret for flipping BG’s garr…..

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Decklan,

I might be overstepping my boundaries, but I think I have to express my point of view.

There are prominent guilds in every server, the ones that indelibly shape the ethos and community through their words, decisions, actions and commitment. The militia and 90% of the WvW population look up to the leadership of the leaders. Even though this is a video game, loyalty and reputation crosses over from real life. The anonymity also makes it easier for folks to show their real nature, their real selves so to speak. Hence the feelings of betrayal is extremely painful.

I was in a guild whose guild leader unilaterally decided to leave. It started a chain reaction that ultimately lead to the demise of the server. I left with the guild because the guild was more important to me. But I still think about the PMs that people sent to us, those folks were hurt.

Some might argue that as individuals we decide how we want to play and nobody’s business but our own if we decide to do what might be technically ok but morally/ethically gray.

However, I think that no man nor woman can make a decision without having an impact on the lives of others, more so leaders. There is a shared responsibility about being woven into the fabric of the community, more so leadership.

FW

Decklan.7540:

Kiff.8157:

And that, do not let me see any of the MERC on the borderlands during SEA or EU timezone. If I have you down, I am gonna stomp you all with the big cow butt sitting on your face and me sitting on your body, dancing and laughing. It is not classy I didn’t do that before and I will not do that to anyone else except MERC and no remorse.

Wow, you must be a total blast to hang out with in real life.

“Hey, Kiff, want to go out for some drinks?”
“Sorry, I have to write this 10 page manifesto on how much I hate people I’ve never met because they pressed a few buttons to transfer to another server in a fantasy realm.”

Now that I think about it, the reason JQ has been in T1 for so long (dropping down to T2 a few times) is because we seem to be more fun-loving than any other PPT hunting server out there. I can’t recall anyone on JQ getting frustrated when TKG left, in fact I think most of us wished them well. An attitude like that is probably why they felt they could come back and no one would hold any ill-will towards them. I have a feeling if the MERC members that transferred wanted to go back to BG you guys would troll them and treat them with intense hostility.

Then again, it might also be that two of the most outspoken members on BG are Monsoon and Kiff. Maybe you guys should send them a message in game, as their numerous angry and troll-like posts cast a very poor light on the rest of you.

You mentioned the conflict between the interest of the guild( or individual) and the server. Actually I dont think that’s the case, even if everyone work for their own interest, given their ultimate goal is a reasonable one, there still can be a nice gaming environment.

And in my opinion,the best thing you can ask from WvW is the exciting gaming experience. The sad fact is many players just want to win, they dont mind to form a super strong server to pvd or be stuck in the queue everyday.

JoePhuket.8045:

MERC carried BG during oceanic and SEA timezone. This move will allow MERC to only play during oceanic and they don’t have to stay up until 2-3am everyday just to carry a bunch of kitten PvErs (world’s first Teq killer? lmao pve kittens). I can’t see why this is a wrong move at all.

GG
Keep the hate flowing though.

Back to the time BG had ND+WM+CA+Thai+XF etc during SEA. Neither JQ/SoR had that great coverage. MERC can take a rest after oceanic. Why MERC still brought the full zerg to SoR bl?

Dont talk like they are forced to OT otherwhiles they would lose like crazy. They are so proud of being a guild that can run 12+ hours everyday

Tiesto.9084:

Tam.3146:

Dear JQ,
On behalf of NYS/SONG/SAHP, I am asking for 100k gold, otherwhiles we will join JQ.

JQ only recruit elite. sorry Nys. Sahp. Song

Learn to read pls
We are not asking you to recruit us. We are asking $$$ for staying in SoR
or u will PVD every nightDDDDDD

Dear JQ,
On behalf of NYS/SONG/SAHP, I am asking for 100k gold, otherwhiles we will join JQ.

Vash.9183:

Tam.3146:

Vash.9183:

Thurin.5610:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Thurin,

Thurin.5610:

its, take ATM + GE + FB and the lol WvW and wipe to SOR upleveled Karma train

Calling [WvW] ‘lol’ is not a good thing to do, they are honorable opponents in JQ. I knew them as hardcore elements from [SOS] guild in Kaineng. They are good folks who were deciding between TC and SOR some time back. They chose TC but they have transferred to JQ. BG and SOR folks are a bit disappointed as JQ SEA has almost all maps covered. With the 30-40 transfers JQ SEA will be a full 4 map force.

I had exchanged information with them during their time in TC advising them on some matters and have kept in touch with some of their folks, but I was surprised at their move. Nonetheless, I hope they will fit into the T1 scene well. So even though I have informed one of my [WvW] contacts that we will seek them out in the battlefield to test their mettle, please be assured that it is nothing personal.

Shifty.4985:

i hope SUPR had a nice warm welcome from the SoR karma map blob

SUPR is by headed by CA GL. They are not a new guild in BG. BG SEA now has approx 20-30% less numbers than 2 weeks ago and the PPT is telling.

FW

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Dear Fannwong,

I always enjoy reading informative insight posts, but calling a pvp guild that joins an allready stacked time zone "honorable " is where i have to disagree. As a pvp guild you want to fight the strongst opponents you can find, and not go the easy route.

<3

I don’t know why people like to call JQ stacked in SEA just because ATM gets a ton of PuG followers. JQ has a zerg in EB, but all 3 servers always have a kitten zerg in EB, rofl. The ppt scores in SEA are always about the same between the servers now that BG has taken a hit in our SEA numbers. Waha/ATM needed another guild like WvW to do work in other borderlands since he can’t be in all of them at once. Your own server just recruited another SEA guild named [AT] into your forces. And as for your last sentence, [WvW] has plenty of forces to fight during their timezone. Certainly on SoR

We do call JQ stacked in SEA but NOT just becoz there’s ton of pug, instead there are tons of guilds. Guild force itself has the potential to field 3maps. Not to mention pugs.

There is not tons of guilds… [ATM] leads the borderland zerg, [Ge] commands EB, and now they have [WvW] to help the borderland coverage. I am aware that there is other smaller PvX guilds in that timezone, but please do post screenshots of times that they lead a group in wvw. :P

JQ DOES have guild like FOO/FB/GGYY/TKG which provide decent manpower and among all only FOO is a PvX guild . And they appear often enough and they all can field 15+. If they cant organize all these guilds in the field as a force that’s the problem of co-ordination. All you need is training and communication, but not more guilds. Especially when GGYY and FB are still young guilds and need time to grow.

Vash.9183:

Thurin.5610:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Thurin,

Thurin.5610:

its, take ATM + GE + FB and the lol WvW and wipe to SOR upleveled Karma train

Calling [WvW] ‘lol’ is not a good thing to do, they are honorable opponents in JQ. I knew them as hardcore elements from [SOS] guild in Kaineng. They are good folks who were deciding between TC and SOR some time back. They chose TC but they have transferred to JQ. BG and SOR folks are a bit disappointed as JQ SEA has almost all maps covered. With the 30-40 transfers JQ SEA will be a full 4 map force.

I had exchanged information with them during their time in TC advising them on some matters and have kept in touch with some of their folks, but I was surprised at their move. Nonetheless, I hope they will fit into the T1 scene well. So even though I have informed one of my [WvW] contacts that we will seek them out in the battlefield to test their mettle, please be assured that it is nothing personal.

Shifty.4985:

i hope SUPR had a nice warm welcome from the SoR karma map blob

SUPR is by headed by CA GL. They are not a new guild in BG. BG SEA now has approx 20-30% less numbers than 2 weeks ago and the PPT is telling.

FW

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Dear Fannwong,

I always enjoy reading informative insight posts, but calling a pvp guild that joins an allready stacked time zone "honorable " is where i have to disagree. As a pvp guild you want to fight the strongst opponents you can find, and not go the easy route.

<3

I don’t know why people like to call JQ stacked in SEA just because ATM gets a ton of PuG followers. JQ has a zerg in EB, but all 3 servers always have a kitten zerg in EB, rofl. The ppt scores in SEA are always about the same between the servers now that BG has taken a hit in our SEA numbers. Waha/ATM needed another guild like WvW to do work in other borderlands since he can’t be in all of them at once. Your own server just recruited another SEA guild named [AT] into your forces. And as for your last sentence, [WvW] has plenty of forces to fight during their timezone. Certainly on SoR

We do call JQ stacked in SEA but NOT just becoz there’s ton of pug, instead there are tons of guilds. Guild force itself has the potential to field 3maps. Not to mention pugs.

I believe that AT will be a huge asset for SoR. But even with the arrival of AT, our overall manpower still cant compare with JQ, which is gaining more and more sea guild.

I am really glad for JQ having AGG/NS/GD etc so that the match up becomes more exciting, but another SEA guild? Well I am not quite sure.

Kiff.8157:

gebrechen.5643:

Azure.8412:

Errr.. another SEA guild of 40? lol

I checked earlier and didn’t see anyone with that tag and no one here could tell how many they have. So, it’s all speculation, but maybe it’s not that easy anymore to kick us off T1 when it’s true.

The thing about ESOL is funny. Leaving JQ with a ton of people to found RE, leaving DB with people as ESOL, founding PLX on BG with 5 people? Successful guild lead!

Sorry I don’t want to quote long post I will just reply your previous two posts here.

I have no idea which period you refered to. JQ has never dropped to 100ppt as often as BG did. and nobody cares you recruited GD and to find another OCX guild in future but SEA? Please observe, JQ SEA never falls below 150ppt and always ticks at 250-350ppt during SEA. We don’t stack strongest timezone we balance the coverage you get the point? JQ SEA know they are strong they have number. They field 4 maps with queue during the matches in T2 with TC/DB do you know that? It’s not that they can’t compete in number they definitely have more number than SOR/BG SEA. Majority of their zerg are fairweather players and their pve/pvx players (not in HC wvw guilds) were bashed for being fairweather, unhelpful, zerker, unorganized, selfish when the week JQ lost to BG without SOR.

As for WvW guild, they are taiwanese guild and definitely field 30-40 man like ATM. You don’t get to see full number of them yesterday because….chinese went outdoor to stare at the moon last night.

ATM: start with 20ish at 4am server time. 35~40 peak (claimed by Waha)
Ge: Also 20+, 35~40 peak (Claimed by Ge in their recruitment post)
FOO/FB/GGYY all can field 15+, may be 20+ at peak
TKG can do 20+, may be near 30+ at peak
Now there is another 30+ guild.

Kiff.8157:

Doomdesire.9365:

And so the super stacking begins. This surpasses a new level of stacking.

First of all, I think JQ needed recruiting, but now that they have NS, AGG, GD, all they need is a medium sized oceanic guild – that’s it.

For BG, if you really did recruit RB and some other guilds, all I have to say is lol. You’re in first place, you don’t need anymore guilds.

As for SoR, I think we are in a good position. We don’t need anymore recruits but of course guilds will mindlessly flock here for the leagues.

I think it may be time to move to a lower tier if things get out of hand

Lets think in this way, JQ recruit because ATM wants #1 of the league. So they will just recruit till they have enough wvw players (note I mean players not guilds) to crash one particular timezone and be able to defend in less potential timezones. The intention can be observed here, timezone coverage balancing is not what they want when they start recruiting for SEA timezone. They want to dominate that timezone and have ppt on a par in NA/EU/OCX.
But personally I would be okay with that now if they are saying they recruit SEA because their NA/EU/TKG can’t get any potential points from SOR and BG.

And now JQ has WvW from TC. I am not sure whether ‘enough’ is a suitable adj.

Btw tell me if I am wrong, it looks like Waha led TKG last night and I saw some ATM members represented TKG.

Burl.9567:

I was rather disappointed last night. I was hoping the new mechanics were going to break the zergs up some but it appeared it did the actual opposite.

The lag in the BLs was just atrocious and fights came down to who had more people spamming 1. Hopefully it dies down some and new tactics force the zergs to split up.

Its either super big zerg or pvp style roaming.
There’s still no room for 15~20 team

Fuzzion.2504:

It was good to have TKG back . It was also good to see Agg have confirmed their stay. It is also confirmed that a EU guild has come over. Also tonight the fights in JQ bay between JQ vs NYS and SAHP was epic. Keep it going mates. /Salute

Epic battle indeed. but actually SAHP is on other bl. Its only us and SONG

Stealth.8150:

Tam.3146:

Robot Chocken.7012:

Azure.8412:

Robot Chocken.7012:

Avenge.1478:

Robot Chocken.7012:

Avenge.1478:

Well looks like JQ has received [Agg], [NS], and now an EU guild named [GD]? Not sure why everybody is stacking T1, its going to suck during ‘Leagues’ when 5 weeks out of 6 youll be fighting ghost town servers. Guilds should spread out instead of stacking T1 servers.

You say that but BG and SoR have more numbers than JQ.

Im not so sure about that anymore. Your SEA is massive, you now have a big EU, and your NA has big kitten NS/Agg/SF/HzH/SG/etc zergs.

Youre on par if not bigger now.

I agree that our NA is on par now. We have one EU guild that fields 25-30. SoR outnumbers us in EU and Sea and Oceanic. We are not trying to overstack at all we just want to be competitive.

SoR only has IRON during EU as of now and fields 30 while other guilds are on breaks. Outnumbered in SEA by SoR? Don’t kid yourself, please. JQ has the best SEA coverage. Guilds like GGYY reinforced you guys not too long ago with 30+ even when your SEA coverage was best. Now, you get guilds like Agg, NS and TKG in NA and Oceanic. You’ve little right to play the outmanned card anymore.

SoR has 3 EU guilds, and 3 sea guilds that field 30+. ATM is the only guild we have that fields 30+, and now you have oceanic guilds. As I said we are trying to be competitive. SoR is the first server to have 4 coverage times. So take that in to consideration.

Just curious, which three SoR sea guilds can field 30+?

lol comes from nys which has 3 kitten guilds. you guys field over 40 as well not sure why you guys qqing about coverage.
song has over 40 for sure and sahp has over 50.
is iron scared of of competition during eu with their 50man+ blob

ps sor you guys not looking weak enough during sea please tank the score even more.

1. I NEVER qq about ther coverage. I found that sea time is the most exciting one among all t1 time zone (given that there is no conspired 2v1). I enjoy it otherwhile I wont lead my team for more that half year. Instead, I hate people who attribute all the win or lose to coverage only.

2.40+40+50=130, so how can we form a so call “NYS+SONG+SAHP” blob in a single map?

Robot Chocken.7012:

Azure.8412:

Robot Chocken.7012:

Avenge.1478:

Robot Chocken.7012:

Avenge.1478:

Well looks like JQ has received [Agg], [NS], and now an EU guild named [GD]? Not sure why everybody is stacking T1, its going to suck during ‘Leagues’ when 5 weeks out of 6 youll be fighting ghost town servers. Guilds should spread out instead of stacking T1 servers.

You say that but BG and SoR have more numbers than JQ.

Im not so sure about that anymore. Your SEA is massive, you now have a big EU, and your NA has big kitten NS/Agg/SF/HzH/SG/etc zergs.

Youre on par if not bigger now.

I agree that our NA is on par now. We have one EU guild that fields 25-30. SoR outnumbers us in EU and Sea and Oceanic. We are not trying to overstack at all we just want to be competitive.

SoR only has IRON during EU as of now and fields 30 while other guilds are on breaks. Outnumbered in SEA by SoR? Don’t kid yourself, please. JQ has the best SEA coverage. Guilds like GGYY reinforced you guys not too long ago with 30+ even when your SEA coverage was best. Now, you get guilds like Agg, NS and TKG in NA and Oceanic. You’ve little right to play the outmanned card anymore.

SoR has 3 EU guilds, and 3 sea guilds that field 30+. ATM is the only guild we have that fields 30+, and now you have oceanic guilds. As I said we are trying to be competitive. SoR is the first server to have 4 coverage times. So take that in to consideration.

Just curious, which three SoR sea guilds can field 30+?

package.5147:

Glad to have this matchup back all the others are soooo boring. Just sucks that SoR and JQ have to resort to 2v1.

No offense, but i dont think any t1 server deserve to make this complain.
In some point of time, your server also took adv of that

By the way, I find it funny that:
sor/tc/sos: 760posts
bg/jq/fa: 389posts

Sovereign.1093:

TY for the GVG earlier @ GO tag.

Who won that and whats the score?

krade.4021:

Oh btw don’t tell me NYS and SONG dont blob because when they run together it becomes a blob

So?

urak.4863:

Atine.8623:

krade.4021:

Goodjob blobbing it up NYS and SONG

As I said before, SONG never had, have not and never will run more then 20. That is, mathematically, <=20. We would ask gently for people to not follow us (around 90% of the time, or even 95%, we run without a tag), but hey, if there are no tags on a map, would you not follow the sole group (that you see) instead of standing at the spawn? And of course we would gather up forces to attack an objective we estimated that need us to gather up. To be honest, the number of people TC has playing (I assume you’re from TC) on a given map during SEA night tonight is quite impressive as well .

For the PVD part, I don’t think its forbidden to attack a gate, at least the developers this is not a illegal thing to do at this stage of the game. Doesn’t mean I personally agree it though. What needs to change in my humble opinion is that trebuchets shouldn’t be able to damage rams on the other side of the gate given the fact that catapults were disallowed of such ability. By the way, PVD down a gate takes greater time :o

If you play during SEA timezone (against TC) you’ll know that we only have _ number of guilds that run __ people. I’m not trying to condescend you, but we all know who wins the coverage war and the numbers war during SEA timezone. If you do run 20 people, you can easily hop maps to lose the “PUGs”/militia and run as a guild group tagless. And if you do run 20 people, you’ll find many good fights for sure. :] unless good fights are not what you are looking for, of course.

Take a look. You will find that SONG really doesnt run with more than 20members
and they did do a lot of crazy tagless fight.

ykyk.2740:

We are not JQ or BG, SoR SEA crew! It’s OK to not run in one mass of ungodly numbers!

In fact, if you split up you can use more skills and the fights become more fun. It’s pretty neat. This is the matchup to try that in

If I just bring 30ppl to attack your garr, would you guarantee that TC will only allocate the same man power to encounter our attack?
I love middle size fight, thats why I keep inviting TC guilds to do GvG and I found so much fun. But back to reality, in the standard wvw match up, both skill and number do matter.
In fact when we arrived the battlefield, there was already a sizable TC force led by WvW. We can barely handle that with the combined SoR force. If we split, we die. Dont underestimate your own server.

Stealth.8150:

MountainPanda.5831:

Deli.1302:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Aieo,

Thanks for your point of view.

Also Traejan, have you faced the JQ SEA 60-80man force hitting either BG or SOR nearly every SEA night since Jan/Feb 2013? That existed before either BG or SOR came up with the map blobs.

FW

Aieo.2815:

dwahvel.7356:

Traejan.1729:

Burl.9567:

Traejan.1729:

Asudementio.8526:

Elano.2014:

It’s equally hard, if not harder, to find TC roamers during the past few days as well. Half of them just run away when I wave, while the other half either die too soon or run into structures half-way through battle.

I guess roamers are now a rare species across all servers.

I blame the blob mentality SoR has:
1. Created in the T1 NA wvw meta game
2. Championed for more than half a year
..etc..

Fixed that for you..

Some people just want to see the world burn

ANet created the blob mentality and only strengthened its stranglehold with every subsequent patch. It was never one server championing the idea of it. Hopefully the new BLs will alleviate some of this play style…

I share your hope that one day the blobbing will end but let’s not try to re-write history here…

SoR created this tactic to stay competitive in T1 before the IRON/KISS EU transfers.

SoR continued this tactic once they had a large influx of players across multiple time zones and continue to map blob even now.

Every other server has had to do the same to compete and now the lag is pretty much unbearable.

created the tactic eh? I guess those PRX (hod) RUIN (et) map blobs didn’t really exist in t1 a year ago. I’m sure jq had some as well but can’t think of any of the guilds.

This guy speaks the truth. I recall map blobs back when PRX and RUIN were at their prime.

Don’t forget the NYS blob. They’ve been around just as long.

Since when we are a blob? That’s gross

gotta love when an sor guilds get called out blobbing and the whole server comes in their defense saying we don’t blob and we don’t have coverage. You guys blob harder than the other t1 servers

I welcome any middle size fight/GvG, so far MEOW and WM are the only T1 SEA guilds which asked our gvg invitation.

Anyway, really nice gvg with [awe], glad to see we both keep growing

Tarkus.4109:

Rhaegus.8924:

sostronk.8167:

Jet.4795:

Trying to push SoR for 1st is really hard when BG never leaves JQBL.

BG what if I said SoR took your cookies AND your bacon…?

Maybe take a look in BGBL. You have an 80 man zerg keeping us there. If anything we kind of have to push you on your map to keep you off ours. We almost reset an SOR T3 keep tonight and had to pull back to BGBL because of this zerg. Meanwhile, as happens all to often in Oceanic/Sea, SORBL is near empty and JQ and BG fight whilst SOR gets their waypoints and upgrades up.

In both JQ and BG’s defense though, the best fights are between these two servers during this timezone. Kind of hurts our PPT but whatever, good fights are hard to come by in WvW except for this timezone.

Took this pic 30 mins ago, smack in the middle of SEA time.
Check our border, check BG border and compare that with what you wrote :-)

An 80 man blob of NYS, SAHP and SONG usually does that

I guess you have omitted an important fact that these is all major SEA guild in SoR. If we run three guilds in the same map all the time, the other map will suffer. We are actually taking risk. So we only run together for some special objective(eg. rush SMC/garr) and usually wont last for more than hour. In most of time only two of those three guild would stay together and the other one would handle another map

We dont deny that we do big blob. But it doesnt mean that we prefer it. No offense, NYS is confident to win any SEA guild from BG except WM in a 20~30 fight. SONG is even more specialized in middle size fight. Why should we do the blob? As a commander who often lead a map zerg, I think you know the answer.

Gooj.8561:

Waha has got to be the single most popular player in this game

I guess ‘most discussed’ would be a better choice of words.

btw, where does a BG guild TMD come from? I guess its XF actually?

pot.6805:

Can you please stop complaining about 2v1, especially on your home borderland? It is a part of WvW as SoR always said.

If all three parties have the manpower to handles 4maps, and everyone is got 2v1ed in their home bl, then you are right.

Anyway I am not complaining about the 2v1
We feel no stress for losing keep, its will be lost anyway if attacked by two super forces.
I just hate the lag

stevie.4187:

BG now has Commander Kidinkk :0 yeyeye

I can ensure that you have many many fans in SoR
Come here, you will be the most popular commander ever

MagiKarp.8201:

I can tell you this, if SoR and BG 2v1’d JQ during SEA you would see the same result as we’re seeing this week, happens to all of us.

JQ SEA is not as big as people believe, JQ gets away with a lot through the BG / SoR hatred and the fact all JQ flock behind Waha and it is a map zerg no matter the time Waha could command a map queue through EU into EST NA if he chose to. All our SEA’s are the relatively the same size you delude yourselves into thinking they aren’t.

NYS, SAHP, SONG, GC, HiRE, OCX, IRON, XPK

ATM, Ge, GGYY, FOO,

MERC, ND, TKG, WM, CA, Thai, XF, NOC

I’m sure this is in incomplete list, but I’m going off the “Appears in WvW more than once a week”

If you ran through the numbers on any given night one can queue more maps than the other. From what I’ve seen the only map BG has been capable of a queue on all week has been the map with the MERC float in it.

NYS, MERC, ATM et al are big guilds capable of fielding big numbers but all it takes is a 2v1 during SEA to make it all come crumbling down, this isn’t because numbers but because these 3 guilds are incredibly skilled and the numbers issue comes into play because sure you can wipe one of them, but you cannot wipe them both effectively in order to defend your objective, you engage NYS outside Woodhaven, ATM is already hitting garrison or Cragtop, the same would happen on any BL.

I note; notice nights if MERC, ATM or NYS don’t show up (very rare) which ever of these 3 doesn’t turn up the respective server usually gets rolled.

Please be noticed that we didn’t appear in the battlefield for two days.

On the other hand, I agree with your thought on JQ’s advantage gained from BG / SoR hatred. Let the cycle repeats itself or break it, its up to everyone

Vash.9183:

Jade Quarry is such a resilient and strange server.

Strange in what sense?

WM,XF AND Ugre:
I would like to spend another hour with u guys at Greenlake. Thats so much fun.
Sad that we have to save our homm garr

Sovereign.1093:

what is the gvg score between wm and nys? anyone watching knows?

we lose 2:8, WM such as classy guild

Busy week for NYS – 4more GvG to go
Hope there will be a epic fight with WM tonight

sunny.5012:

TC vs SOR vs BG in TCBL garrison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP-HFlZ1gQk

BG vs TC in SMC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjkfuMqXFsg

good fight 0.0…

why u keep targeting me T____T

Crimson Riddles.3892:

Jahn.7019:

Punny.9210:

Look like the match is gonna be over this weekends . . .

That’s what happens when one server overstacks.

BG is the new Vizunah. Most of SoR has come to realize it, so should you.

The problem started when JQ demoralized your entire SEA force and ended up trickling into your NA… SoR definitely has what it takes to win this match-up if they wanted to.

No offense, but you really know nothing about SoR…especially our SEA force

Nice match with [INVC] tonight and cant wait for the match with [awe] tmr.
NYS is looking for GvG during SEA prime time,
feel free to contact me if u are interested in it.

Punny.9210:

time to bring JQ back to T1 ? look like SoR needs them

the match over early for 2 weeks. although it’s good we have a lot of off days

why we need JQ?

oxide.8324:

heh TW attacking sor bl hills while there is a gvg, so desperate

So when you are gvging, we cant doing anything?
Great, we are going to GvG everyday in SoR BL

Its funny to see how a staff ele run around in the center on killzone like a guaridan

Sovereign.1093:

Always fun to duke it out. Please take it easy on us. ^.^

I am the guy with the huge backpack lol
It was a nice fun but sadly our cmd made a mistake so that we had to go home earlier.
Anyway look forward to GvG with u guys again in Friday

My dear FTz,
No offense, but the gvg arrangement with u guys is the most terrible experience I have ever experienced in the game.
We have done couple gvg before, and watched tons of gvg video from both EU and NA server which played by the top teams, none of those requires the participants to remove all the audience from the hill (where usually the audiences stay and watch the show) because the players can receive boons from ele and guardian audiences? Jesus.
And after wasting more than 30mins, then u guys just droped the sentence ’ we reschedule it’ and left? Seriously, u guys showed no respect. I really feel bad about it

[NYS] For Dolyaks Glory

Robot Chocken.7012:

fade.8603:

Whatever ATM/FOO are doing are just playing WvW. They are focusing on who they want to focus because end of the day, the position/ranking remains the same, on top of that the RNG involved, you cant hold any position.

Even if they did focus on BG, they will still lose towers/keeps thru EU simply because of lack of coverage. Whatever JQ SEA do now is probably just fighting. No planning involved for next day as they simply do not have the EU/NA coverage. Perhaps to JQ SEA, WvW is a daily thing as everything resets the next day.

To blame an individual on destroying the server is ridiculous though, if you have a cmder which nobody respects, nobody will follow and another more competent commander can rise to the occasion. no?

This is clearly person/people trying to create an internal issue to divide us. I can assure you Waha and ATM are at the top of the food chain in terms of respect. They know that. Our core guilds are family and not going anywhere.

‘Soldiers need the battlefield, If JQ is going down, why I have to stay?’
Thats what Waha said in a Chinese forum

MagiKarp.8201:

JQ is in the same position SBI and SoS found themselves in.

Trying to survive on one strong time zone and being smashed / limping along in the other 3. It indeed is not able to compete in T1 at the moment but also it would destroy the tier 2 servers (I believe) it is a weird vacuum to be in, which we won’t see the outcome of until the 3 get split up and JQ gets – JQ/TC/DB. The stigma of being #1 for so long takes it’s toll on a server, be wary T1.

Good luck to JQ to pull itself out of this, may I just ask, don’t pull a SBI and abandon your map every night, actually fight back.

Edit: @Kryyg – What point is there to spending all night upgrading a BL knowing noone is there to hold it when the SoR map zerg shows up? Waha is playing for the enjoyment of the game and seems to be enjoying himself a lot more.

BG wont enjoy it if Waha really play for ppt

Tajz.9826:

WvW new build in one hour but they closed it in 10min lol… kitten SoRBL was fun for us today. Hope you guys enjoy the fight NYS :P

@IRON, i find it strange that you guys just moved to SoR like weeks ago but some of your forum warriors acted like been in tier1 with us for a long long time like they know everything. Funny indeed.

Today our main presence was in BG BL, we stayed in SoR bl for last than 20mins so I dont know wt exactly happened in the BL.
But anyway, good to see you guys in the field its always so much fun to play with u guys

Kathy K.6812:

covenn.7165:

Kathy K.6812:

I wouldn’t doubt SoR is doing poorly to try and get TFV to sympathize and move over. We’ve seen them do this time and time again.

As a SoR player, I can tell you that this comment is not even close to reality based.

I wish I can say SoR doesn’t purposely do poorly just to get transfers; but we’ve seen it happen twice already. I wish I was wrong covenn, but history tends to repeat itself more often than not especially when it comes to SoR.

OH YES YOU ARE GENIUS
In fact this time we work with Anet
Anet make us lag like crazy everyday, so that we lose our passion on WvW and be inactive, then we can have more and more guild to join
How do you know our plan? It should be a top secret within SoR

MagiKarp.8201:

To SoR: Thanks for not showing up tonight, I’m sure your impressing TFV by not putting any effort in, good show.

No wonder why you are always considered as a troll.

Azure.8412:

zepp.4109:

PvDoor? BG ticking 350 ppt for 1 hour, while SoR euro coverage can tick 500 ppt for 3~4 hours.

Everybody knows that some asian guilds in SoR aren’t playing today (maybe due to the new update), so don’t try to make a fake lack of coverage.

NYS has always been inconsistent in turn outs. Their Raids are occasional, whether there’s a new update or not. SAHP, SONG and AFS are still trying to do what they can. They cant do much with ATM, FOO, MERC, ND, ND, WM, Urge, Thai, Ge, DC, CA and XF knocking at their doors. It’s not a fake lack of coverage. Sometimes we tick better because IRON helps us out. This has always been our kind of SEA coverage. I really hope you say things with substantial evidence next time. SoR wvw guilds don’t PvE. FYI, SoRs EU has never really ticked 500 even for 2 consecutive ticks before. Don’t even know what you are talking about. If you want to troll at least troll smartly.

I have to explain a bit.

When the lag is unaccepted, I wont start the raid.
There was a exceptional lag for some Hong Kong players in these few weeks, at least half of our members, including me cannot do a fight. There are at least 7sec+ delay during a fight (NOT ONLY in SoR BL and its spike lag, not the skill lag that everyone suffers), which make us lose the battle we should win, and make me extremely angry and shout on the TS

We are by no means a occasional wvw guild, we stack up in our prime time every day, but bad things just happen to us again and again.

Tonight I even told the oceanic commanders to make tons of preparation for the coming SEA prime time. I was ready for a epic battle and tons of fun. But talking about the lag, what can I do?

Anyway, until Anet (or may be our ISP) fix it up, we will remain our absence.

[NYS]Glory, a laggy and disappointed commander

If you saw a SoR male Norn Guardian used shadow step, dont report him.
He didnt use lag, he was just soooooooooooooooooo lag

MagiKarp.8201:

Pixelninja.6971:

BG has 420 PPT during IRON Primetime. So much for BG needs more EU Guilds. Its 20:00 O’clock in Berlin and 19:00 o’clock in London.

Main force running in this “EU” time slot is MERC lol, Tarkus is still tagged up and its 5;30am for him, 3:30am for SEA, I’m heading to bed. For early morning he’s still pretty chipper.

RK and HB just formed up 15mins ago, so you do the math.

What your seeing is a flow on from SEA with everyones keeps other than ours being paper and we’re just flipping it with a float team. Give it another 30mins and the SEA/Oceanic players will be asleep, then you’ll have your “real EU”.

Go HB n RK smash IRON & KiSS.

@Sanghae, why you always so mad?, our guild rep is fine, I think you’ll find MERC commands more respect in T1 than Choo ever has / will.

So what are you trying to explain?

DeWolfe.2174:

I love how Raven Paradox is boasting how great SoR is. Yeah, it’s called PvDoor!!!

JQ just a few minutes ago was outmanned on 3 maps. Obviously, no queues at all either. It’s easy to claim how great you are when you are playing with yourself

PvD is better than 80v80 zerg fight
Both of it are only the matters of skill1
at least I dont feel lag in the former one

We back-door you simply because your backdoor is wide open.
What’s your ground of making a complain?

Sacrx.6721:

salluks.6017:

Sacrx.6721:

How is US t1 now?. Any guilds actually running in 20-30 man or is it all on 1 commander 24/7 60-100 man blobs all week?. Making usual excuse for being bad its not gvg its wvw… From reading first few pages seems fair few guilds interested in some GvG. How are the EU hours?. How is the lag etc?.

If u thought VS blobs on EU, u should see MERC and ATM here, they practically lag the whole BL with the skill delay.

but i haven’t faced any lag, and nobody has has complained of skill delay so far except while fighting ATM/MERC at their prime time.

but if ur looking at GVG with EU standards, u will be disappointed. the difference is a clear mile.

still sulking about the RARE appearance of ATM on SoR BL……

well, we apologize about you guys losing the garrison yesterday, you guys got a full que(according to SoR, they did try hard) defending your fully upgraded garrison with a 10 second skill lag and we saw the SoR post about how it would be impossible for BG and JQ to take it under that lag… so ATM and Ge merely want to farm that full que running into the LR held by MERC and ND…. and we only want to farm it for a bit… so we’re sorry it became a 2 hours farm according to SoR posts, time flies

be honest, ATM fights MERC and ND every day for god knows how long and NYS + SAHP backdoor us every day and no one complains on the forum like your 20 SoR posts right after that garrison farm…

this is why we like fighting MERC and ND because they are the only guilds that fights us again and again on open field, they don’t complain about getting wiped or 2v1ed and they don’t leave the map after 1 wipe or straight up avoid ATM map during T1 oceanic.

we have nothing but respect for MERC and ND, sometimes we wiped them and sometime they wipe us, everyone gets plenty of badges…(we do find fighting BG is much more fun and profitable than SoR oceanic that hides in fully upgraded and fully sieged keeps, we really don’t have the patience to treb SoR keeps with full que defending it…. not with our short 4 hour operation time.

but rest assured, ATM and Ge is back on BGBL today, and we had fun with MERC and ND, and we got our once a day visit from NYS and SAHP as usual =)

Opy’s guild is Glory Thieves[INDO]
We are Dont Steal My Glory[INDO] XDDDDDD

Kreen.3925:

Kreen.3925:

Keep it classy folks,

This is the last old format match up. No need to slag each other off. SoR are bringing the pain this week. More power to them. Let’s have some good fights this week. Would be nice if I saw a few less magic arrow carts, just saying.

TW folks on SoR, you will have to PM me about the INDO tag and share the in joke.. I thought it must be Indo’s way of standing out Only saw it briefly and it was buried in a sea of other tags so could not get a “select” on it.

The [INDO] guild was made in attempt to stop the Glory thief Indo Xx. He swoops in at the last min and steals all glory – drastic measures had to be made. [INDO] guild now claims all glory otherwise previously claimed by Indo Xx and his subsidiaries.

Also… “Don’t Steal My Glory”[INDO] Is recruiting all those who’s glory has been stolen by Indo Xx. PST Opy for further information, thank you.

If you are interested to join or wanna talk in detail, pls feel free to whisper/mail me in game or send me a forum pm.

At least for the NYS part, you are wrong indeed
I had to quit playing for couple of weeks to do revision for final exam
and sadly we dont have other cmd to take the role consistently, so we were absence for a while

Liquid.9672:

Masamoon.3864:

NYS had internet provider issues for two weeks is the main reason of their absence actually. SYN said they disbanded a few weeks back though, i’m not even sure if MORD is big since i’ve never heard of them other than this Cover Girl character.

My point was, your player participation surged when IRON transferred. Am I wrong?