Guild Wars 2

you are all bad i am enjoying balling on u here is a pic of me just showing u who is boss

Andrew Clear.1750:

Tetra Bug.7134:

SBI is scrunbs not even that good lamo pls zerg more

BAEST more like BAEST at dying on the server hahaha pls get better

See, this is the crap that annoys people. We were starting to have a classy time on the forums til Mr. Your Server Sucks Cause It Zergs had to say something about SBI for doing what every server does, including his precious MAG.

I wasn’t able to play tonight, cause of school, but it does seem that we held the PPT lead from around 11:30 am til around 8pm (EST) then FA and MAG started the double team of us, like on Monday night, and we dipped. Then, around 11:30 PM, I saw us climb back to the top spot, mainly cause it looks like FA lost its coverage around that time.

Since we have combated MAG on Tuesday, I think we will be fine. They will not overtake our 23k point lead during the week.

Looks like there won’t be much of a shift for that Gold league position though. FA might drop to 6th, and SoS take 5th. But, other than that, MAG will stay 7th, and we will pass DB (like anyone didn’t see that one coming).

lamo!!!! we beat u because we r not nerds that game all day i am busy with having a life u should try it!!! maybe do ur homeowrk instead of qqing over being beaten!!!

SBI is scrunbs not even that good lamo pls zerg more

BAEST more like BAEST at dying on the server hahaha pls get better

EBay is being held back by Cookies feeding other servers stacks

FrankieBonez.8361:

Too many Urkels on yo team, that’s why ya Wins-low.

I resent that I had issues with Kanye when he said it too

Agg #1 zerg dog guild NA

Aeros.2046:

So, yeah. Tonight. Once again, war was hell. For 7 hours, the brave soldiers of the pass waged brutal combat in our borderlands. The battle ended with the total cleansing of our borderlands and the capture of stonemist. Hats off to Maguuma and Dragonbrand. You are the hardest servers we have fought in months. We know the retaliation for our continued survival will be swift, and fierce. But we take heart in denying DB an upgraded SM, and Maguuma that waypoint in our hills.

Incidentally, people have asked for my picture so they can know when they have killed me. By all means, please. Come at me, I love fights and am here to deliver, even if I die horribly in the process. Here I am, sitting on your scout inside SM’s lords room that we took about 30 minutes ago.

Immersion

Not sure who are easier kills WFD or BS

Also huge ups to [Ark] on Maguuma you guys were solid as kitten

Gahzirra.8639:

Tetra Bug.7134:

omg hahaha borlis pass omg hahaha let me catch my breath

except DR they’re good

but that’s because BP had nothing to do with that

how hardcore is WFD these days still semi hardcore?

Lol your orig server AR isn’t even circling the toilet anymore, so you hop to EB? EB is losing now, so you hop to DB. …how fitting you ended up on Dragonwagon. Then you puff up your chest of how good DB is trololololol.

I never said anything about how good Dragonbrand is

I left Anvil Rock because it was the worst, no mystery there, and had friends on EBay.

I left EBay because we moved as a guild.

I’m flattered you checked my post history or remembered me

Noodica.5428:

omg hahahha its Rekz.. Oh.. Oops! I mean ahahha its qT!
They’re so good they had to transfer to a server like Dragonbrand just to show how leet they are, i mean they’re so kitten leet that they weren’t going to let BP experience their Leetness any longer after losing to them.. Don’t worry man, we aren’t worth your leetness, please..

You’re cute thinking that BP chased us off. Look at the guilds there are to fight at that tier and look at the ones there are to fight up here. It’s not really a question where a competitive player would want to be. Maguuma has ME, PYRO, etc etc

I’m looking forward to seeing MM I hope you are as cute in game

omg hahaha borlis pass omg hahaha let me catch my breath

except DR they’re good

but that’s because BP had nothing to do with that

how hardcore is WFD these days still semi hardcore?

Daecollo.9578:

Guardians take much less damage, and have a lot more healing abilities. There health is not that big of an issue if they heal for 2x more and take much less damage.

This is why I asked for this instead of something similar to other classes.

“Just stop” also does not stop the truth.

The reason that guardians work that way is because they have to. If Guardians didn’t have a lot of healing or mitigation they would be garbage. They have it out of necessity. If you can’t wrap your head around how this works then I’m sorry dude

Awesome stuff. I was interested in trying an apothecary’s build with the recent buff and I think you showed it works pretty nicely. Nice video too.

Daecollo.9578:

Tetra Bug.7134:

Daecollo.9578:

Tetra Bug.7134:

Daecollo.9578:

Tetra Bug.7134:

Well, we do have the benefit of being the only class with condition immunity (outside of the engineer trait no one uses) and we are the only class whose invulnerability utility allows us to use all of our utilities (other than ranger’s Signet of Stone, which again no one really uses). Plus, the durations on these are really good and not on terrible cooldowns. I think Berserker Stance and Endure Pain are good like they are tbh, strong when used correctly but not mindless spam skills.

Condition Immunity? It doesn’t affect conditions already on you or if you have 10% Condition Duration… I would rather have something that helps me when I need it.

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RANGERS DON’T USE SOS? WHAT? WHAT!?

Berserker Stance would be good in its current state if a red text came up saying the necromancer was using his condition rotation so you could put it up. However all condition attacks look the same.

The point of Berserker Stance is not to get conditions piled on to you. I recommend being better at the game instead of asking for the skill to be renamed “Hold Hand.”

Once it is on if any conditions are getting through it’s for a very minor duration. If you already have conditions on you, you have 8-10 seconds to clear them. We now have plenty of options on how to go about this (Cleansing Ire, Warhorn, Shouts+Soldiers, Mending, Signet of Stamina, Lyssa). If that’s too much for you try sticking to your guardian.

In fact, currently warriors do very well against the condition spam kings (Necro and Engi) due to the new Berserker Stance and these classes marked lack of stability matches up so well with the shiny new mace buffs.

I suggest you not fight against a Necromancer or Engineer then, they can do that spammingly, Its usually way to late to use the stance when you really need it.

So basicly your saying its ok if the warrior has to rely on all his skills to clear something, when other classes skills actually do that for them.

The game meta does not support what you claim, its high paced action combat does not support that slow concept.

It is a great no-wonder that nobody uses our class for teams, when we have to use 4-5-7-8-9 to get the same effect as a guardian who uses 7.

There’s really no point in arguing with you is there?

What does Signet of Stamina do? It clears all conditions. That’s one skill. Boom. Done. We have something that NO OTHER CLASS HAS. We can for a duration become effectively immune to new conditions WHILE giving us adrenaline. This is already very powerful. You can deliver two nearly 4 second long stuns if you time it right. I just don’t get how you don’t see that these skills are in a really good place. There are other things that could use some adjusting and these two really aren’t one of them.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Contemplation_of_Purity

Not only does it do that, it breaks you out of stun and gives you a boon for every condition you cleansed.

Please study all classes before replying to my threads in the future, this is very common knowledge across anyone who does a little reading.

I know about Contemplation of Purity, I also know that it has a much longer cooldown (before you think you’ve caught me in another deadly logic gambit, yes I know you can trait meditations for -20% cooldown), and Signet of Stamina gives a passive bonus to endurance regen. These skills are different because they belong to different classes. Guardians need their skills because they have no health. Imagine if guardians had a base 18k HP? Yes, then those abilities would be overpowered. But that isn’t the case. This is what we call “differentiation.” This means that Warrior skills and Guardian skills are different because of the difference in the class design and mechanics. They are different from each other.

Repeat after me Daecollo.

“Warriors are not Guardians.”

Those words will feel strange at first. It’s okay.

When you start feeling like making a thread asking for a warrior skill to be converted into a ludicrously OP version of how that skill would be applied to a Guardian remember those words.

Warriors don’t get healing from a ton of different skills because that is not what they’re designed to do. I know you’ll just ignore this though, you’re on a quest to get ANet to patch warriors to do all of the damage while healing all of the health at the same time. Just a heads up, the grind ain’t worth it.

It doesn’t affect conditions already on you. You did the exact same thing to me, taking everything I said and taking that tiny bit and trying to turn it around.

Just stop with that. There’s no reason it should.

I solo roam on a warrior.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQNAR5ejkOBvtQyQMxBEkCNMLOKUCmQ9wOqj4A-jEyAYLBZCDAhIyJwioxWBLiGr2GT5KErijqMAMjB-w

With bloodlust stacks I have nearly 3700 attack with 3000 armor, 60% crit chance with fury, 100% crit chance on stuns, and 83% crit damage. For more a more offensive approach sometimes I swap Last Stand with Cleansing Ire and swap Signet of Stamina for Bull’s Charge for even more CC juggling. Thieves? No problem with this build.

Daecollo.9578:

Tetra Bug.7134:

Daecollo.9578:

Tetra Bug.7134:

Well, we do have the benefit of being the only class with condition immunity (outside of the engineer trait no one uses) and we are the only class whose invulnerability utility allows us to use all of our utilities (other than ranger’s Signet of Stone, which again no one really uses). Plus, the durations on these are really good and not on terrible cooldowns. I think Berserker Stance and Endure Pain are good like they are tbh, strong when used correctly but not mindless spam skills.

Condition Immunity? It doesn’t affect conditions already on you or if you have 10% Condition Duration… I would rather have something that helps me when I need it.

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RANGERS DON’T USE SOS? WHAT? WHAT!?

Berserker Stance would be good in its current state if a red text came up saying the necromancer was using his condition rotation so you could put it up. However all condition attacks look the same.

The point of Berserker Stance is not to get conditions piled on to you. I recommend being better at the game instead of asking for the skill to be renamed “Hold Hand.”

Once it is on if any conditions are getting through it’s for a very minor duration. If you already have conditions on you, you have 8-10 seconds to clear them. We now have plenty of options on how to go about this (Cleansing Ire, Warhorn, Shouts+Soldiers, Mending, Signet of Stamina, Lyssa). If that’s too much for you try sticking to your guardian.

In fact, currently warriors do very well against the condition spam kings (Necro and Engi) due to the new Berserker Stance and these classes marked lack of stability matches up so well with the shiny new mace buffs.

I suggest you not fight against a Necromancer or Engineer then, they can do that spammingly, Its usually way to late to use the stance when you really need it.

So basicly your saying its ok if the warrior has to rely on all his skills to clear something, when other classes skills actually do that for them.

The game meta does not support what you claim, its high paced action combat does not support that slow concept.

It is a great no-wonder that nobody uses our class for teams, when we have to use 4-5-7-8-9 to get the same effect as a guardian who uses 7.

There’s really no point in arguing with you is there?

What does Signet of Stamina do? It clears all conditions. That’s one skill. Boom. Done. We have something that NO OTHER CLASS HAS. We can for a duration become effectively immune to new conditions WHILE giving us adrenaline. This is already very powerful. You can deliver two nearly 4 second long stuns if you time it right. I just don’t get how you don’t see that these skills are in a really good place. There are other things that could use some adjusting and these two really aren’t one of them.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIQQNBiYDbkzJ5t5RGiJOggeohZxWcKoEpHiBbkGA-jUyAYLA0VkJHBi+An9KiGbltIasabMlLgKeR1yAwMGA-w

Here’s what I use. I find that if your group runs tight you don’t need as much HP as people tend to stack. nearly 26k HP with 3.1K armor is more than enough as long as guardians are doing their job. What I like about this build is the amount of explosive power it brings. When your hammer stuns connect you dump tons of damage on target thanks to the 53% crit damage.

Leg specialist is still good. You can still lock down 5 people with a hammer shock, as long as you are mindful of the last time you ran through your sword chain. The timer on weapon swap is a nice reminder of when leg specialist is off CD.

Healing signet is nice, but having healing surge as a burst heal is clutch in those moments when you get caught in an enemy damage dump. There is already a lot of retaliation going around from light fields and guardians, so I find that spiked armor can easily be traded for Defy Pain. That trait choice is up to you though, it can go either way.

Naturally those sigils of restoration are after you’ve built stacks. There’s just not really a stronger option than that when you’re facing large odds. Kills become even more of a momentum shift.

As for food, that can be swapped for your prefence. I use saffron bread often due to the -20% damage when stunned and the -20% condition duration (Honestly don’t know why it isn’t more popular. It’s dirt cheap on the TP) or omnomberry compotes when building stacks to keep that healing on kill.

It’s really a standard kind of warrior build, nothing too flashy there.

Daecollo.9578:

Tetra Bug.7134:

Well, we do have the benefit of being the only class with condition immunity (outside of the engineer trait no one uses) and we are the only class whose invulnerability utility allows us to use all of our utilities (other than ranger’s Signet of Stone, which again no one really uses). Plus, the durations on these are really good and not on terrible cooldowns. I think Berserker Stance and Endure Pain are good like they are tbh, strong when used correctly but not mindless spam skills.

Condition Immunity? It doesn’t affect conditions already on you or if you have 10% Condition Duration… I would rather have something that helps me when I need it.

…

RANGERS DON’T USE SOS? WHAT? WHAT!?

Berserker Stance would be good in its current state if a red text came up saying the necromancer was using his condition rotation so you could put it up. However all condition attacks look the same.

The point of Berserker Stance is not to get conditions piled on to you. I recommend being better at the game instead of asking for the skill to be renamed “Hold Hand.”

Once it is on if any conditions are getting through it’s for a very minor duration. If you already have conditions on you, you have 8-10 seconds to clear them. We now have plenty of options on how to go about this (Cleansing Ire, Warhorn, Shouts+Soldiers, Mending, Signet of Stamina, Lyssa). If that’s too much for you try sticking to your guardian.

In fact, currently warriors do very well against the condition spam kings (Necro and Engi) due to the new Berserker Stance and these classes marked lack of stability matches up so well with the shiny new mace buffs.

Well, we do have the benefit of being the only class with condition immunity (outside of the engineer trait no one uses) and we are the only class whose invulnerability utility allows us to use all of our utilities (other than ranger’s Signet of Stone, which again no one really uses). Plus, the durations on these are really good and not on terrible cooldowns. I think Berserker Stance and Endure Pain are good like they are tbh, strong when used correctly but not mindless spam skills.

MarauderKing.4572:

FrankieBonez.8361:

Tetra Bug.7134:

NS+qT+EAT way too OP

Yeah. . . . About that . . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21nVMWtk5aY

Awesome video guys – appreciate the shoutout to the rest of us DB guilds as well!

Dude that fight at 3:30 was awesome, that worked out perfectly, we hit them and they ran right into your tender loving arms for a big angry hug and we proceeded to tenderly toss them into the dumpster

~together~

Teamwork rules

Vash.9183:

Tetra Bug.7134:

NS+qT+EAT way too OP

and a graveyard for the fallen SoR

Were you guys fighting [Meow] or is that just a bunch of random craziness in map chat?

Just random craziness

NS+qT+EAT way too OP

and a graveyard for the fallen SoR

SoR BL thanks for the bags DB too stronk it seems

[NS] [rB] [EAT] [qT] squad deep

[Cray] fights with [Agg]

Fifty Hour Cyber Session [Cray] Just changing the kitten game tonight

Perphection.8209:

Tetra Bug.7134:

tiramisu.8706:

Stop whining.

Our fearless leader with the two wisest words that will be spoken all week by anyone. This applies to everyone.

Also: How is Crystal Desert treating you [vT]? I hope to run into you guys out there and hope I drop good loot

It’s been awesome so far, we’re having an absolute blast man =) I haven’t seen you around yet! But when I do..

Lol I’ve changed my tune on that haha. Looking forward to bumping into you. When do you usually play?

Jscull.2514:

Dont have alot of optimism for this move but we will try it. GW2 just isnt competitive. Alright, thanks for the advice.

Where did you decide to bring PAXA? Shame you guys aren’t having fun, it was always fun (if not incredibly frustrating) to run into you guys back in the AR/BP/NSP days and I hope to see you guys soon. There aren’t a ton of dedicated 5 man guilds on EBay but a lot of roamers who play together. Guys from GF, GH, Rekz, FTF, CoF, pk and other guilds regularly roam in 5ish man teams. There are a lot of talented players who roam, but not with the emphasis on a well structured and coordinated 5 man team.

tiramisu.8706:

Stop whining.

Our fearless leader with the two wisest words that will be spoken all week by anyone. This applies to everyone.

Also: How is Crystal Desert treating you [vT]? I hope to run into you guys out there and hope I drop good loot

Someone’s borderlands is about to change color lol

Hadan.2841:

Tetra Bug.7134:

Hadan.2841:

Hax.8701:

You changed your name to your stinky Guardian. Boo Guardians!

We had our first date today in DH bls, I was teaching her how to play the guardian!!

Btw fun fights in CD bls tonight. this week will be fun. Rekz….we are going to have fun this week I can tell. We are newly reformed and only about a week old so. A lot of new members trying to mesh with the oldschool krew members. Its a learning process atm but we had some fun fights against you so far.Same deal with GH

Is getting lawnmowered what were calling a fight now?

after months of duking it out with Agg and BT….you guys are really nothing special……getting lawnmowered huh? yea egos on a t4 server? lmao grow up

Just reporting the facts, sir.

Hadan.2841:

Hax.8701:

You changed your name to your stinky Guardian. Boo Guardians!

We had our first date today in DH bls, I was teaching her how to play the guardian!!

Btw fun fights in CD bls tonight. this week will be fun. Rekz….we are going to have fun this week I can tell. We are newly reformed and only about a week old so. A lot of new members trying to mesh with the oldschool krew members. Its a learning process atm but we had some fun fights against you so far.Same deal with GH

Is getting lawnmowered what were calling a fight now?

kitten Darkhaven and Borlis, really bringing your a games this week! Impressed, maybe this means we will see BP again soon >:)

Good times in EBG.

Tetra Bug.7134:

;_;

How can I adopt a poor rescued DB golem? Alpha, Omega, a golem deserves to be treated with dignity

Super hardcore [Rekz] small man “Panda Squad” found a lone, unescorted DB golem being abused the other day. No escort, uplevel driver, all we could do between the tears was put it out of its misery. The poor thing…

;_;

How can I adopt a poor rescued DB golem? Alpha, Omega, a golem deserves to be treated with dignity

Great times in DB BL, I clocked out early (worked two shifts in the heat yesterday) and didn’t see as much of TC as I had wanted to. DB was the same DB we fought a few weeks ago, same old Wagonbags. TC seemed to be running three guilds together who would break off for some objectives and regroup for others. The zergs were really tanky and fun to fight, we had some close calls where a few of our guys got dropped and we had to break off. I’m looking forward to fighting new guilds on TC this week.

Also, can’t wait to run into my old guild [Crit] on DB.

Have to bump to say excellent build man. Ran it with my guild raid last night to great effect, kudos and thanks for sharing.

alcopaul.2156:

WvW leaving Kaineng is sad. It’s OK that WM, CO, RISE, RE, XF, Meow left. But WvW? The guild that has been in Kaineng since T8? I remember Taiwan Man trash talking CO members when they announced a departure party in LA.. Where the kitten is the server loyalty that I heard from Taiwan Man that day? I guess they ate their own words.

Just to show you that the only permanent things in this world are death and taxes.

Kaineng is like a transfer station. Everyone’s trash comes in and hangs around until it moves on to it’s next destination.

Yak’s and Kaineng provided me with nearly 1k kills tonight, thanks guys keep up the underwhelming work

Try this

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIMQNAR3ejcOJvxQCPMxBEkCNsKOKUCmQ9YOcj4A-jgyAYLBZyCAhBiQAnALiGbZsIasKGMlZq1nCRejioVLDAzCA-e

High crit chance and damage, can spam eviscerate every 5s, condis will melt off, you have stability and can swap Signet of Stamina for Endure Pain if needed.

Wanted to wish good luck to my old guild and new Dragonbrand members Critical Intent [Crit]. Trash some baddies guys. Hope to fight DB in the future so I can fight you >:)

Had fun converting Yak’s and Kaineng zerg dogs into loot bags tonight. Good converstion rate, great time to convert zerg dogs into loot bags

Sup Drax, hope we end up fighting with or against each other in the future again. I have been running 0/0/30/10/30 for roaming in WvW

Dogged March, Cleansing Ire, Merciless Hammer
Empowered
Warrior’s Sprint, Destruction of the Empowered, Burst Mastery

Hammer/GS, both zerker

Hammer with sigil of paralyzation

GS with sigil of bloodlust then switch to one with sigil of flame (or impact if you prefer) after 25 stacks

Knight’s Armor, Melandru Runes
All trinkets zerker except backpiece and one earring are cavalier. This puts my crit chance with oil and fury at 60%, right where I like it. To maintain fury after signet of rage goes down since I did not take signet mastery I acutally use Arcing Slice, which helps maintain fury, clear conditions is good for 3-4K on crit. I like the new berserker stance, it’s great to pop when going into a burst to avoid being blinded or snared. I use triple stances, berserker, balanced and endure pain with adrenal surge as my heal.

You get lots of armor, hard hits, great condition management with the -68% and cleansing ire, . All in all, pretty effective build I’ve found.

Callahan.3180:

Why can’t I be a master?

Because you’re not

Daecollo.9578:

Gundam Zephyr.6713:

If you use Omnomberry Pie you can get some decent sustain with a more crit/offense oriented build. Going 30 into Tactics for healing shouts also requires a triple-shout utility bar, which IMO can be limiting (not to mention boring).

To bad Guardians can also use Omnomberrys, that is the problem.

Classes with sustain get more sustain.

We get it. Stop. How about trying to deal with what we have instead of ALWAYS whining about what we don’t. There’s a time for that and players should be vocal about changes that are needed but you don’t need to come into every single thread to cry about sustain on warriors. Some of us are trying to actually discuss builds and don’t need every thread derailed into a discussion on how to turn warriors into guardians.

With the proper gear, traits and food you can tick well over 400 regen with Inspiring Banners as well.

Yaki.9563:

Tetra Bug.7134:

I run a banner spec in WvW in groups and the amount of healing it puts out is really unparalleled. You can maintain near perma regen on 20 people. Banners biggest drawback is that they’re clunky. If they had a recall ability that worked at say 3000 range and a burst I’d be over the moon.

You mean you snipe regen from other sources that are possibly even superior. No one needs your crummy 0 healing power regen. Banner regen has to be the most overrated thing on the warrior forums.

That’s cute, you think I would trait for banner regen and not stack into healing power. With a full set of gear, sigils and runes I tick for about 400, so I doubt I’m sniping regen.

BP got a lot of transfers. They’re about to dish some serious pain. Anvil my former home, make sure they don’t get to do it without a struggle. Remember Borlis’ biggest weakness: actually having to fight without the blob buff.

Banners are already very powerful in a group setting. When traited you have 4 blast finishers that provide area regen and powerful buffs. You have an AoE that will pick up 5 downed players. You can provide your group with swiftness, regen and fury.

I run a banner spec in WvW in groups and the amount of healing it puts out is really unparalleled. You can maintain near perma regen on 20 people. Banners biggest drawback is that they’re clunky. If they had a recall ability that worked at say 3000 range and a burst I’d be over the moon.

I’d actually think of the banner on the back as a nerf. Making it so you can’t use the banners as a blast finisher and forgoing their actives would be a deal breaker for me.

Yak’s and Kaineng convert to loot so nicely I’m loving this matchup already

“Everything good we do is because we are awesome and everything good you do is because you are a mindless army of keyboard turning zombies” said everyone in a matchup thread ever

(it happens to be true in our case)
(that you are all keyboard turning blob zombies)

Tetra Bug.7134:

Daecollo.9578:

Tetra Bug.7134:

Daecollo.9578:

Tetra Bug.7134:

Daecollo.9578:

And then you actually play-test and realize how horrible it is…

Pretend for one second that warriors aren’t supposed to be the same as guardians. What this build does is exactly what you always talk about. It has protection, condition removal, (minor, but with our health pool we don’t need a ton) sustain, while still putting out solid burst coupled with in fight mobility.

I have played this build for about a month and had great results. I have over 1000 hours on warrior primarily in WvW. For playing in small group zerg busting groups this build has been very rewarding to me. So yes, I have play tested it. Yesterday I succesfully pulled off a 3v1 against 2 elementalists and a thief (admittedly, the eles were staff eles divorced from the zerg) and have for a change found my warrior being the last one standing in a small scale WvW group frequently. Warrior is kitten, yes but whining about that in every thread is just annoying. Save your “WARRIORS SHOULD BE GUARDIANS” for the threads about improving warriors.

Nice, so how do you gain protection?
And how do you remove conditions?

Protection from the runes of the earth (6s every 30s) and converting vulnerability to protection. Condition removal from warhorn, heal can be swapped to mending and and banner to Signet of Stamina.

Play it in a group. Trust me, it is effective. Just because warriors need buffs don’t think there are no effective ways to play them.

So basicly you rely on a long cool-down gimmick of a rune that only gives you protection at a certain point, and a completely unreliable condition conversion based on luck and relies completely on your enemy’s approval.

Might as well just label yourself as: Free Kill.

I laugh at anyone who uses those, because I know I can precast my boon removal/steal just for when it pops up. Your entire rune set wasted because it relies on your OPPONENT. Vulnerability is a rare condition as well, You would remove bleeds/poison way before it just because of how fast its applied over Vulnerability. Warhorn only converts the newest boon, even if you see vuln and use it, chances are bleed/poison will tick over it.

Not even that, with how classes work, its fairly easy just to move away from you and kite you with protection. I can tell you don’t SPVP much.

Don’t Rely on Gimmicks

I stated it was a build for roam groups in WvW. I know the limitations of a warrior in structured and that’s why I didn’t say “in structured”

It’s not a gimmick. Try running it for a while. It;s a nice builf and will see some amazing sex

This is why you don’t drink and post. You start off fine, then you type yourself around a tree and take out a car full of teenagers with you.

But the point of the warhorn in the build I posted is not to simply convert vuln into protection. You should be giving preference to damaging conditions if possible given the nature of the boons it removes. I was just pointing out that you can gain a good amount of protection this way.

I run like to run in groups of 10-20 people. That almost always includes guardians with pure of voice, D/D eles and all kinds of condition removal flying around. The thought with the runes of the earth was that it will always proc on initiation with an enemy group, providing a reduction in direct damage for that initial barrage, while being able to keep moving and aid in the group condition removal while using all those extra boons generated coupled with good boon duration buffs to get a high % increase in damage.

It’s a build that is meant for group play, (in before WE NEED TO BE CARRIED, when playing in a group it’s a simple fact you build around your allies strengths and weaknesses) so if it does not fit your purposes that’s fine. I just saw a thread about protection and warriors so I decided to throw in my two cents.