Guild Wars 2

Anet has been looking into OOM crashes, here is the Reddit post…
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3r3rul/can_we_please_get_a_dev_to_acknowledge_that_this/

PS: Lets hear how good your card is then…

Crashed again during the last phase of the event in Auric Basin…

Apparently its been addressed, and this is what i found:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3r3rul/can_we_please_get_a_dev_to_acknowledge_that_this/

Beldin.5498:

trueanimus.4085:

btw, nvidia seems to get the oom crash far more than ati cards, while i on my intel HD shared UMA havent crashed once with OOM error, only a few bouncy chests crashes because of the UI changes,

Or NVidia user simply think that they have the best cards on the world and thus
it would be an insult to their fantastic GPU to have some settings NOT ON MAX ?

Of course i also wouldn’t wonder if its really just another issue of NVidias crappy
drivers.

I have upgraded from a “GTX 560/4g RAM” to a “GTX 960/8g RAM”.
Using the 560 was fine, it ran GuildWars2, but I wanted something better…
After upgrading to a better card with more memory everything was great.
Up to the point HoT finally released…
I do not think that its the card considering the other games i run currently have no issue. Seems to only be GuildWars2 that is having trouble…

What I want to know is if its the card, the driver, or GW2 that’s causing the issue so the problem can be fixed.

trueanimus.4085:

post the entire log… the first line will prob read something about OOM error

out of memory crash because the game has a major memory leak atm.

they refuse to even admit that its happening yet almost no one can stay on longer than 5-10 minutes or maybe 30 mins to an hour if you have more than 8g ram and 4g video ram

Seems your right…
Heres the start of that error report:
___________________________

• Crash <—*
  OOM: Heap, bytes=8294448,
  App: Gw2.exe
  Pid: 10052
  Cmdline:
  BaseAddr: 00C60000
  ProgramId: 101
  Build: 54738
  When: 2015-10-30T10:35:23Z 2015-10-30T05:35:23-05:00
  Uptime: 0 days 3:03:52
  Flags: 0
  ___________________________

Noah.4756:

I have the same problem. Also using a GTX 960. My specs are very similar to yours. Random crashes every hour or so. Usually before I crash I have the weird graphics bugs but I’m not always aware of it. The crash happens everywhere.

I have noticed that it tends to happen around 1-2 hours wile in game. So far I have crashed in WvW/PvE after seeing these models. Also crashes while using the exalted-armor during the events. Wouldn’t mind if this happened before HoT, but it started just after it released.

EDIT: Turns out its running out of memory… Listed the full error report as well.
It really sucks when your at an critical phase during events and the game crashes.

EDIT-2: Forgot to add a link to reddit that has an Anet response to this.
Reddit post on OOM
Seems more posts of this error are popping up around the forums.

Around 1-2 hours of playing i see these green/blue models walking around. Its not on every NPC just a few, and if I try to take screenshots of them my game crashes. Note that the game eventually crashes if the NPC disappears/dies, this happened in WvW.

Haven’t had a problem till after HoT launched, and should not be having an issue with my graphic card.

Was able to get pictures of this through video recording. Pictures are attached below.

Would like to know if its really on my side or not, and if there is anything I can do to fix the problem.

System Info:
GPU: GeForce GTX 960
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Memory: 8 GB RAM
OS: Windows 7

Yes, agreed we need to bring Scarlet back. Cause we haven’t had enough of her yet…

Edit: Would be nice to see whats being held back for the sixth trait line….

These bugs have been fixed a few patches ago, I want to thank ANET for fixing this finally…

Thank you!

In the Jester Falls area in Metrica Province the Golems that the NPC Gives you will stay there indefinitely if the owner of the Golem logs out. In a result the area becomes overwhelmed with Golems.

Heart Quest : Assist Researcher Kaii with Incomp’s scrap

Mikau.6920:

I tried to use Flesh Golem but he only spectates my fights. I tried to force it to engage, but refuses to. This wasn’t that bad before (the last time I tried Flesh Golem). Seems like the AI is worse now.

Minions AI started acting-up (least as I remember) around the time Scarlet showed up.
Then the patches after that progressively made it worse.

Is that including the ranged ones, because they already tend to “stand” there and do nothing.

Have a post on this already…
MinionsDontWork

Nocturnal.9584:

Bump. I was hoping there would be some fixes for Necromancer minion stuck-to-spot behaviour when attacking in the latest huge update but no luck.

Please please look into this.

Agreed, tried minions again and to my astonishment they still messed up…

Edit: Would be nice to know if this will be resolved in “Heart of Thorns” or will it still get ignored…

Aedelric.1287:

Well done for watching the POI livestream WinterWolf.

Didn’t watch it. Found this due to boredom, and the need to jump on things…

Found this gold coin hidden in LA, not sure what its even there for, had to jump up there just to find it. Would be nice to find out…

Whoever put that there thanks, I spent an hour trying to pick it up…

Kruhljak.2705:

Theyr’e never going to fix it. It’s clearly a deeper problem with managing pathing and 3D geometry. Oh wait, ranger pets work just fine (in all but rare cases). It’s just everything else that’s screwed up. This applies to necro minions and summons of any kind (from eles, from rune effects, ogre pet whistles, everything). Well, summons from players. Stuff summoned by mobs works, probably because they’re just considered and treated as extra mobs which don’t require any additional code.

I’ve asked this before—to deaf ears, of course—but why do ranger pets work fine but nothing else does? It’s apparently a matter of pathing, so why isn’t everything else using the same pathing mechanism/code that ranger pets use? If all these bugged out minions/summons had the same pathing ability that ranger pets have 99% of the complaining about this crap would cease. Guaranteed.

But, as said, they’ll never fix it. If after 2 years—yes, this issue was around even in beta and reported by many, many players—they haven’t bothered with something so widespread in general use and fundamental to a build that they themselves included in the game with clear intent for people to use and enjoy, they will flat out never fix it. This is why they never bother to acknowledge what measures they’re taking against the problem. No plans to fix = no measures needed.

As much as I respect ANet as an entity and likewise the devs, in general who are pretty kitten good at their craft, this particular issue always makes me grind my teeth and makes me temporarily forget all the good stuff around the place. Bottom line: there is simply no excuse for not having corrected this in some fashion by now.

Starting to agree that Anet dose not care about this issue.

Nocturnal.9584:

Yes, the issue effectively breaks a core build of the necromancer and should be looked into.

I wish it was that simple, but still seems that they do not care to address this issue.
Will do more “testing” tomorrow to see if the recent patches did ANYTHING, highly dout it though…

It would be nice to at least see some interest, from ANET, in the issues MM necromancers have.

Xianos.4038:

I’m surprised Anet hasn’t looked into this. I mean it shouldn’t be hard, the ranger’s pets seem to work fine and so do the summoning pets from the runes and sigils, why is it hard to get the necro’s minions to work the same way?

At this point it seems they don’t give a kitten …
Almost tired of asking them about this…

Menaki.6329:

Little push from site 8. I think, the enemy player has a unfair benefit from this bug.

Is actually true if the skills are bugged so much that they don’t work, makes a huge advantage over the person using minions.

More “evidence” that the AI is messed up.

Nocturnal.9584:

Bumping this topic. It’s getting very frustrating using these minion skills and watching them not performing.

It gets worse with every patch apparently…

Which skill?
Also good luck getting any help on necros, Anet tends to ignore them…

WinterWolf.7231:

WinterWolf.7231:

This goes for the following minions :

• Bone Minion
• Shadow Fiend
• Flesh Golem

All of the melee minions tend to lock up while trying to attack a target or when the controller is under attack. Minions tend to do this about 60-80% of the time during use. It does look like register the attack but glitch out to their idle stance over and over. However if the target is close enough to the minion, as in right next to it, it can and will attack until the target gets farther away from them. They don’t seem to have an issue with attacking a tower gate or any other object that can not move.

I know being a Minion-Master is not the most popular thing to use in most areas of the game. I do enjoy playing it regardless of how buggy minions get. However, during the past few months I have seen them get worse. While in WvW borderlands the minions locked up roughly 75% of the time refusing to attack or protect me. Its not just WvW though, it happens off and on in other areas. This has happend in PvP arenas and most PvE maps.

I have looked through the forums for similar topics and none I have seen have been replied to by Anet.

It may be the pathing or the minion AI, i’m not sure but it needs to be looked into.
The more the game updates the worse minions seem to get.

Edit: Still no word on this after a month? Not surprised…

Edit: New issues with the update with the “flesh of the master” trait.
Minions tend to die when switching level areas or when the player is downed.

-Wolf

Well good news, Anet fixed one thing wrong… Minions no longer die when switching level areas.

Will we ever get a response out of this?

Edit: Changed the title to something that might get a response, but is still related to the topic.

Still no improvement on the way the minion AI.
Does anyone a Anet even care about this?…

Getting really tired of asking, but if i don’t who will…

Mad Rasputin.7809:

I recently came back to the game after a six month break and the minion’s AI has definately been boinked up since then. One of the patches has definately messed something up.

My minions often sit around doing nothing.

Minion AI used to be a real issue early in the game, but the fixed that issue sometime around 1 year ago (yeah, I can’t remember the exact time). After the fix, they worked pretty darn well but not perfect. Good enough not to complain much. Now, it is horrible.

After going back to my necromancer to see if its gotten any better, it has not.
Been playing with the traits and nothing seems to work. ALL the melee minions still bug out and stand there doing nothing. This currently breaks part of the necro and makes minion-master pointless…

Is t even possible to get a response from ANYONE at Anet on this???

Still no response from Anet or any improvements to minion AI…

WinterWolf.7231:

This goes for the following minions :

• Bone Minion
• Shadow Fiend
• Flesh Golem

All of the melee minions tend to lock up while trying to attack a target or when the controller is under attack. Minions tend to do this about 60-80% of the time during use. It does look like register the attack but glitch out to their idle stance over and over. However if the target is close enough to the minion, as in right next to it, it can and will attack until the target gets farther away from them. They don’t seem to have an issue with attacking a tower gate or any other object that can not move.

I know being a Minion-Master is not the most popular thing to use in most areas of the game. I do enjoy playing it regardless of how buggy minions get. However, during the past few months I have seen them get worse. While in WvW borderlands the minions locked up roughly 75% of the time refusing to attack or protect me. Its not just WvW though, it happens off and on in other areas. This has happend in PvP arenas and most PvE maps.

I have looked through the forums for similar topics and none I have seen have been replied to by Anet.

It may be the pathing or the minion AI, i’m not sure but it needs to be looked into.
The more the game updates the worse minions seem to get.

Edit: Still no word on this after a month? Not surprised…

Edit: New issues with the update with the “flesh of the master” trait.
Minions tend to die when switching level areas or when the player is downed.

-Wolf

Well good news, Anet fixed one thing wrong… Minions no longer die when switching level areas.

Will there be any answer to this?
Or am I shouting at the wall…

GarthDreamWalker.7806:

I’ve had this same issue since the latest pack update. My minions in PvP used to move around and be useful. I’m glad I’m not the only one having my minions stand around and look pretty. I haven’t noticed this issue in pve/wvw, as I don’t use minions there, but it is very noticeable in pvp where I’m counting on that extra damage.

Still is an issue, even now they still bug out.
Good news Anet actually fixed the minions from disappearing when changing level zones.

Decided to play some PvP with the Neco-MM, was not to bad that day but every so often they would still stand there and watch me attack.

Just a guess but it has to be the pathing mixed with the AI.

WinterWolf.7231:

So i see nothing has yet to be done about this, so ill post again. This time I could not record video so i made screens into a GIF file, as you can see in the red circle my minions refuse to help me until half of my health was gone.

Edit: Also added a GIF that show it while attacking a test dummy.

Still an issue, and there still bugging out.
Is this ever going to get looked into???

Goon.9628:

Blood Fiend seems to protect you (and it should because it’s a heal spell). All other minions appear to attack whatever target you start to attack, but they don’t “protect” you (i.e. they don’t attack any mob that is attacking you). They also appear to attack any mob that is attacking them individually. The benefit I see to this is that you can run around and your minions won’t just attack everything in sight, bringing a bunch of mobs on your head. However, small pet controls (F2, attack my target; F3, stop attacking/return to me; whatever) would be awesome.

The reason some of them actually work is because they are ranged minions they do not need to get close to attack.
The bug is with all of the melee minions, they will just sit there glitching out till they decide to finally work.

Azarin.3567:

BAAAG!!!! minions broken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OedJ4oqpcU

This is a new “addition” to the “Flesh of the Master” trait. When the trait gets changed, as in changing level areas, or switching the trait out all minions will die.

This also is a disadvantage when you go down they all die as well.

So i see nothing has yet to be done about this, so ill post again. This time I could not record video so i made screens into a GIF file, as you can see in the red circle my minions refuse to help me until half of my health was gone.

Edit: Also added a GIF that show it while attacking a test dummy.

Lunacy Solacio.6514:

Pretty much don’t use minions. Because mostly they are useless. The screwed up thing is, the rock dog/golem/parrot/etc summoned by runes work fine, and attack/follow you properly. Necro minions? Nope.

Agreed that minions can be useless even when they work, as in fights against elites, champs, and boss fights. However, i’d say that they have more use in PVP, and they still bug out and stand there as you get attacked by other players. Happens more in other areas of the game but it gives the Necromancer (that uses minions) a huge disadvantage.

Minion-Masters rely on the minions to siphon health and deal most of the damage for them, but with minions bugging out and just standing there they become useless. Which in turn makes the MM-Build pointless, if its not going to get fixed just remove all minion skills/trait from the game then…

Will be attempting more “tests” with my necromancer this weekend. Will try to find a way to record it, since screens don’t seem to convey the bug very well.

Duleshna.7430:

I think they did hire a special AI consultant this spring to take a look at the code? Not sure how much they can fix it, but they are trying.

Would like to see evidence of this, as far as I know i have not seen anything like this.
Anet still has not said anything on either this post or the Minion-AI one.

Have not see this since MM has gotten worse (stopped playing necro), but I doubt Anet will fix this… They still have not addressed Minion-AI yet.

Abraxas.3286:

I agree, the Melee AI / path finding for the minions definitely needs improvement.

Even a small band-aid fix like a rangers manual pet control buttons F1 and F3 to force the pet to attack a target or return to master. Something like that could be added to the necromancer and have say F2 / F3 activated when a minion is summoned.

Wish they wold add something like this if at all possible. Still no response from Anet or anything in patch notes about fixing broken AI.

Lunacy Solacio.6514:

I remember being on my Thief in WvW (d/d), finding a Necro MM, SR’d, walked up, backstab and then just attacked with 1 because he was apparently afk. The minions all turned to look at me, but not one did anything at all. It was like they were saying, “Go for it”. I almost walked away and let that necro live because that was just sad… (then again… don’t afk in the middle of the map of your enemy’s borderland)

This definitely needs fixed because minions are practically useless… unless you are attacking a gate or forcing their actions like Flesh Golem/Bone Fiend. I felt they were useless 1-2 years ago, and I know it’s worse now.

But, I am sure this is known and is apparently not an easy fix. It has been mentioned many times before, and can’t really expect them to keep addressing it in the forums every time someone brings it up. I don’t look at the forums often so it’s possible I’ve missed a comment by Arenanet before.

Finally someone on the other end of this sees it. Thanks for the input.
As on Anet addressing it, never happened as far as i know. I have looked through the forums and have not found any responses from Anet about this particular bug.

After a week, and no answers… I’m not at all surprised.

This really needs to be looked into at least. Still having issues with the melee minions not doing anything. They just stand there and watch, which makes them utterly useless…

Andraus.3874:

I’m just curious if you have tested this on even terrain versus uneven terrain. Mesmer has always had problems on uneven terrain. Interestingly this seems to be affecting rock dog too from another post in the forum. If there is a time they consistently work that would be great to know in trying to find out what the problem is.

The problem is the minions, for whatever reason they will not attack/defend the master.
You can notice they they attempt to register the attack but fail to move and start looping there animation.

As Halcyon said, its most likely the pathing the minion-AI uses.

As with the terrain check the screens I attached. Its the best i can get at the moment, but its on ‘even’ land as well as some hilly area. Better yet make a necro go into PvP and play some matches with the minions skills. I’m sure that you have a 80%+ chance to see them lock up and stand there while you die.

Its gotten progressively worse in PvP recently.
Watched my minions stand there while i was getting killed, need the minions to attack or Minion-Master becomes useless and broken.

(MM relies on the minion traits to siphon health from the target and transfer it to the master)

Which means its BROKEN if they don’t even move.

Updating with a few screenshots, best ones are from Drytop. If you look some of the melee minions just stand next to me or just a few feet away from the target.

Still no response from any of the moderators?

I’m not surprised, as I said before none of the other posts like this have been replied to…

Please at least tell us that you know of this and are trying to fix it…
That is if you are.

This is why I restarted this topic. I would at least like to know that someone is looking into this…

EDIT: Minions have now been fixed a few patches ago, THANK YOU!

This goes for the following minions :

• Bone Minion
• Shadow Fiend
• Flesh Golem

All of the melee minions tend to lock up while trying to attack a target or when the controller is under attack. Minions tend to do this about 60-80% of the time during use. It does look like register the attack but glitch out to their idle stance over and over. However if the target is close enough to the minion, as in right next to it, it can and will attack until the target gets farther away from them. They don’t seem to have an issue with attacking a tower gate or any other object that can not move.

I know being a Minion-Master is not the most popular thing to use in most areas of the game. I do enjoy playing it regardless of how buggy minions get. However, during the past few months I have seen them get worse. While in WvW borderlands the minions locked up roughly 75% of the time refusing to attack or protect me. Its not just WvW though, it happens off and on in other areas. This has happend in PvP arenas and most PvE maps.

I have looked through the forums for similar topics and none I have seen have been replied to by Anet.

It may be the pathing or the minion AI, i’m not sure but it needs to be looked into.
The more the game updates the worse minions seem to get.

Edit: Still no word on this after a month? Not surprised…

Edit: New issues with the update with the “flesh of the master” trait.
Minions tend to die when switching level areas or when the player is downed.

-Wolf

So I’ve looked around and can’t seem to find any other info on fixing the wrong achievements rewarded to players. As in, if it says I got 2nd but really came in 1st.
Are they fixing the achievements as well, or am i stuck with the 2nd place one?

Agreed.
Pvp needs more game-modes, the same one over and over again gets old fast.
>.<Also getting teamed up against players with a rank two times higher than mine sucks.

Just read the update notes:

Added 20 Empyreal Fragments as a daily account reward for completing the Mad King Tower jumping Puzzle as a subsequent reward after first time completion.

With that I will not be doing the Clock Tower anymore.

Was curious on how far the construction was coming along, so we took a tour and they let us take pictures.