Guild Wars 2

I don’t post much but here is my view of the guild changes and what I’ve read so far from people combatting the complaints.

So I have led a small guild almost since launch, we worked hard to earn our upgrades. Large guilds don’t know what that means because having more players meant more influence gain for upgrades so naturally it seemed too easy. Even so the goals were not insanely out of reach for all who strived for the upgrades. Now every upgrade has been locked behind a wall of material grind that some forum white knights feel is a justified trade off for a shiny guild hall.

Look at it this way, before, every guild member contributed to upgrading the guild by simply playing day by day. This was taken away and changed into players needing to buy or farm mats everyday for upgrades we already had. Not only is that insane but it will take 6 months for an active 10 man guild to achieve the level of upgrades we had before HoT. Why is this even considered a fair trade for a guild hall.

Before the white knights jump in, has it even occurred to you that although a hall would be nice some guilds would have preferred to keep things the way they were rather than start at almost less than square one. The only upgrade they left us was the Guild bank, which honestly I was shocked they left us with that much after all they had taken in the first place. How is this fair, points will be made new people joining the game wont be able to earn it the old way…oh I’m sorry I and others like myself that have been working on the same guild upgrades since launch should be concerned with a new player base that may or may not stick around to fully upgrade a hall.

Lastly, to all of you who think it’s just that easy to recruit 100-200 or max members honestly haven’t been on the hunt for members lately because everyone is committed to the already massive guilds. I know of 3 guilds alone that have 2-3 guilds for all their members because people want the quick result of mass communication of already stable guilds. It is not easy for a small guild anymore to expand to the numbers needed to make guild hall upgrades bearable, and there will be few to achieve that goal. There will be even fewer that actually want to get more than 10-20 on roster. Why must they be left in the dust when the large farm guilds will be back to full upgrade capacity in weeks not months?

If I were to go to EoTm, id prob do something fun like ask for all the uplevels on me and have the full 80 group go with another tag, have our uplevel group go into the enemy zerg and let the 80 group flank the enemy backline while we’re downed or dead…perfect bait. Idk if this idea would be brilliant or evil as I never go to EoTm these days.

Lot of good options out there being tossed out, but so many of them can be trolled if x server has enough that disagree with a particular map group and want to hinder them. So best option is still to let a guild with better buffs override another claim.

Idk if any1 noticed this but, when you’re trying to talk in the bugged guilds one of your non bugged guildies reads the spam you’re trying to send to the guild you’re repping. So id check the ones that still hear you if you’re texts are going to them, as it would be awkward on their end seeing endless hello’s.

The must be a commander would be an issue as it isn’t very hard to farm the gold for a tag these days. The best option so far anyone has stated would be to be able to override someone else’s claim if you have more wvw related buffs active than the previous claim.

Latest patch fixed the guild chat issue for me here’s hoping for the rest of you.

There is another 9 page merged guild chat page that hasn’t gotten any response in a long while even though the issue with the 5th guild slot has been going on for a while. Would be nice to hear that it’s being worked on at least?

As the title states we’re just an average group of players looking for more likeminded people to join our ranks. We currently do dungeon runs and WvW roaming together but are capable of doing weekly guild bounty. We are a tier 5 guild across the board in terms of upgrades. We run constant MF buff and occasional other guild buffs as well. Myself and my two officers are more than willing to help out new players and even some old ones if they need it. We are open to being a cross server guild but having you with us on TC just makes it a little easier coordinating and well having you with us in WvW. If you are interested send me a mail here on forums or in game to Wintuo.1356.

Judging by the mass views and no replies I’ll assume the JP is bugged on my end alone. Well at least it confirms my fears, so much for JP fun for me. Ty to all the views anyways. PS dunno why they censored wind.

Hi, we are a small TC guild of a few friends who happen to have met up and formed this Tier 5 upgraded guild. We are just looking for more casual players to become friends with and run Dungeons/WvW/ or just about anything really. We run non stop guild gathering and magic find buff since we have nothing really to spend our influence on at the moment. If you feel we may be a fit for you there is plenty of room for you to visit us. We are not a 100% rep all the time guild. As our guild name implies we are only a resting spot for people that may be displaced and without a guild to call home(but people are more than welcome to call this guild home). Respond here on forums or contact me in game around 8pm EST 5pm server time I will generally be on during those hours more than most if you have questions or are seeking an invite.

Ok so last night before I logged off, there was no wind in the snowflake portion of the JP, now every few steps I’m being hit by an unavoidable winkittenhe only one experiencing this or was this added to make the JP even harder?

Hello, so we’re a very small guild of currently myself and a few others that rep it daily. We’re a casual group that lives free of big guild rules, we don’t have voice comms yet but are looking into it. We enjoy running dungeons and some nights wvw raids together and are looking for like minded people regardless of home server. It is a great place for new people as well, as I enjoy sharing all that I currently know about the game with my fellow players and if I don’t know something I’d work to help them find out. If this is what you are looking for then give me a message either on forums or in game for an invite.

A lot of the fights this week that I’ve been in, that TC has lost were due to falling for bait-trap-choke point nukes. FA and Mag say we run, they rarely fight us in the open with equal or more numbers long before they rush to the nearest choke, smart play mind you but hardly worthy of saying you outright owned anybody. It’s our own (TC)‘s fault for falling for the bait and running into your chokes, but then, there would be no fights at all if we didnt come after your bait. So we give you bags, you complain about set bags, then you brag about set bags, then when we do wipe you guys, it’s complaints about numbers. There isn’t a point in trying to win favor of either group because its a 3 way I’m right your wrong, or we’re better you suck contest. In the end we’re all players stuck in the game we choose to play, lets just have some fun and quit the complaining. In the end you don’t really show respect long for anybody, groups you say you respect, give it a matchup or two later and you’ll be calling them out. It’s WvWvW both in forums, game, and personal mind set. Till everyone realizes we’re all the same type of people just on diff servers the PvF and trashtalk will continue to become even more stale.
P.S. When I say “you” a lot in this post it very much implies to ourselves too so don’t take it as if its directed only at Mag or FA.

Looking for Casual TC players, this guild is for those who want a spot to relax and do stuff together vs all the hardcore gaming guilds out there. We provide buffs on the weekend and are able to run guild Bounty missions. If we can get a decent group we can do weekly dungeons/fractal runs. Also with more people representing we can unlock further guild missions to enjoy. So just message me on here, through mail on forums or in game to join.

I want to give a shout out to the FA guy I was fighting last night at hyleks while I was trying to solo flip it. I was really impressed, you realized you dragged more krait than intended on me and allowed me to heal up before attacking, it was a fun fight after that. When I saw you duck down behind a hut I finally noticed our zerg rolling through so I stopped attacking you hoping they wouldnt notice you so hopefully you got away from that. So yea I wanted to bow to ya for honorable play, wish we could have finished our fight on more even ground as it seems like we both wanted it that way. PS I was the LaWz ranger.
Good fights to all last night it was fun running with the 5-6 man golem party pvdooring 2 T3 towers on FA’s side of EB, there were a few that tried to stop us, great job guys we had to keep on our toes I applaud your effort especially the engi that kept comin back for more. You finally dragged me back into the vet wizard on the road and got me down, you earned that one.

Lenador.1436:

Arale.4207:

I still remember. Though, if I had to say who did PvF more, it was definitely DB. I remember a slew of [RE]/[CO] and a few [EA] members talking tons of crap when we were down, too. Well, until that morning we stomped the scoreboard. But before that it was nothing but ’’it’s been fun here gais but T1 looks nice" and “free bags on our way to T1” along with “enjoy another loss this week”. Still, our two weeks of being stomped was well deserved, because of the morons who went into your other matchup thread and talked.

Basically, both servers have keyboard cowboys, and while one of us is winning, the other is sulking, and vice versa. Same goes for population. When we win, they come out, when we are losing, they aren’t anywhere to be seen. :/

I do believe our servers have a fair bit of the same problems.

I want names and address of all those [EA], they will rue the day they spew such slander on these here forums

One I remember off the bat was Lani. A few posts here and there were pretty bad. But I feel that was because of the smack talkers who came into the prior match thread, as well. A few dweebos on our server weren’t helping either. I don’t always see eye to eye with her, but yeah. Most of my example phrases were from RE and CO.

Even I sometimes get annoyed at those posts that go like, ’’hey X, your hills is mighty fine in [color]!" and the like.

Arale Gray – Mesmer – Tarnished Coast – Looking for 1v1’s in WvW!

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Don’t know why the quote option wasn’t up so I had to copy and paste this. Just a friendly reminder, I know most of us and your guys know which RE you’re talking about but when it comes to a TC an DB matchup would it be too much trouble to add [RE] Red, or [RE] Reth, to give a better picture of which RE you’re talking about? Not everyone knows the deal there some may think you’re talking about the wrong one.

Has it occurred to you that our guys have farmed what they could to pay for their transfers or took a break from WvW to recharge. RE wvw’s every single day same time we always do regardless of transfer. That in itself can get exhausting and cause burn out. KN by an amazingly off chance ends up vs TC and our guys are like hell yea lets kick ourselves on the field. We were chasing an FA zerg last night towards anz and walked over one of our KN RE buddies dead on the field there. We all just laughed it off, cause its fun, thats the week we wanna make it into as fun as possible week given the situation. Some of your guys have already said you want to boycott wvw so what harm in our guys comin out to fight club style fight us in open field do. Has it not occurred to you that our guys there are also getting points for Kain by taking camps or assisting on towers. Who are you to say when they should or should not wvw. We have no need to spy on KN, we only want to have a good fight if anything the RE on KN would be your advantage, telling you guys where not to go so you can avoid us.

Usagi, one person does not paint the world in a week. Grave’s comments are solely his opinion he’s venting them. I know how that is, sometimes we gotta vent when we’re frustrated, its why forums like this even exist. To Grave himself though, if SoS was the group with more numbers picture yourself with us on the end you’re on now, would it be any different? If you stopped to think about it you would realize no, it wouldnt be any different at all, same tactics such as laughing and spawn camping would be found if SoS, or any server was dominating the other two. For proof read back on the weeks where any server dominated and tell me if the same reports do not exist. Should we be happy that it happens no, but it’s how the game rolls now, we either play despite adversity or not.

More screenshots from the TC side of the CD death march. Don’t mind the quality too much my noob self forgot to change my graphics back to pretty mode. To all CD that took the honor of dying at hour gates I salute you.

Was in that group, That was just RE and a few of the TC milita giving you guys a warm hello hug. If I had to guess I would say there were about 35ish the first time we hit you outside SM we grew to about 45+ after that due to positive gains in the field. You guys were well managed yourselves, I think we all had good fun tonight, was sad when the new build hit. Hope to have some more fun battles against SoR & SoS this week.

Marquiz.7625:

Wintuo.1356:

You decided to post about the moment it got taken without proper respects being given to the guys that kept it guarded for you to have your moment to shine so I see it as an insult to your server mates the boasting on your behalf with this response.

I am sure nobody in that tower defending with Juggs will feel he was boasting, you are thinking too much. All of us were having fun defending and credit have already been given to everyone.

Ah, if I was mistaken about the tone of his post then I appoligize, just reading it in the wrong tone can mean everything when making a response like the one I made. Anyways best of luck to all 3 servers this week.

mclovin.8561:

Well Kain congratz at finally taking your tower yes Brair. Ofc though you had to wait for yaks 50 man zerg to wipe our acs come in behind them and we still managed to wipe half ur zerg while outmanned and only 1 ac left in the tower. So much for us not being able to hold anything in your BL yet we did have it for about 6 hours straight till we lost it. So good job on the ninja cap but back to the game I go time to take your tower again !

Your Best Friend,
Juggs KWBH

Letting a spawn tower get upgraded to T3 was a bad move on all sides to begin with, props to the CD group to their constant placing/refreshing of siege in there, + me and a group of about 10 tried to take it the other night with siegerazor event twice I think. I would like to thank the group that fought us at SW camp that was a fun half hour or so of ferocious fighting before we lost the camp. The CD response time was really quick and has been till the time the tower got reset so thats a props to your server mates. You decided to post about the moment it got taken without proper respects being given to the guys that kept it guarded for you to have your moment to shine so I see it as an insult to your server mates the boasting on your behalf with this response. I’m sure there will be more epic battles and defenses, just be sure to thank your server mates that worked hard to get you those. Regardless of someone saying you couldnt hold anything if that was even said before, you’re doing the server generalization thing that a lotta forum guys do when you call out the enemy server. What makes it wrong when our guys do it, but right when you do?

P.S. Yea I leave long posts but it gives the people at work something extra to read eh?

I posted the one Altie quoted, but yea you’re dead on kain regulars didn’t want us playing much for PPT so we’re really out there begging for open field fights, thank you to any and every group that has given it a go this week. Whether we wipe the enemy or get wiped by them it’s what we want right now. Teaches us to be even closer together and work on whatever happens to make ourselves better overall. Also thanks should go out to you guys for being respectful so far on forums in the matchup thread when you do get loot bags from us. Cheers to our Yaks and CD opponents, hope you all had as much fun as we did this week.

insanemaniac.2456:

Bahlol.6125:

RE should spilt all its members into 3 groups. Send them to the T8 servers, and just play vs its self,
That way you have even forces split between 3 low tier servers so you wont hurt thier existing balance. And have a 3way on EB all RE vs RE

Menirva here

they did this once, when they were deciding between kain and fc. what i saw of them was a lot of arrogance, griefing, and disrespect.

maybe theyve changed some.

dont come back.

Think this was when we were first deciding on going to Kain or FC about 10-15 members jumped the gun and transferred to FC early before we chose Kain. I find it odd that you would hold the reputation of the whole guild on a few that transferred before they were told to but it’s your right to your opinion. You only had to deal with those guys for a week in early December so it’s crazy you would feel so strongly 6 months later after changes have been made/taken place. Those members had the chance to fight a few that jumped the gun and transferred to Kaineng early so maybe they were just having fun with it and the impression came off that way.

Thanks for the great advice magikarp, idk if I could have said it better myself. Just about every guild looking for server thread is as you say, but you really don’t take it to heart until it’s your guild making the pitch to move.

Summary of my opinion of the thread after the initial info was given:

Someone said quite a few pages back: The thread has served its purpose. It has done so and since then become a trash the other servers competition between a few posters that want us with them. The thread should be closed. Our scouts are out to the potential servers and making detailed descriptions of what they see during our prime and around it to best make a choice so please act as normal as you would any other time(anything further said in this thread doesnt really affect the outcome of our choice now).

This is about RE, that was one of the first transfers to Kain on its rise, and is the Last to leave. Our motives coming to Kain wasn’t about coin, it wasnt about winning. It was about a fresh start for many who were unable to conform to our origional home server’s way of doing things, and it wouldn’t have been fair to make them conform to ours by staying. If it was just about going to servers that win all the time we would have been one of the first guilds to leave after WM, but we stayed and spent about 2 months trying to recruit help, so much so that we were getting flamed for it. It took a lot to bring this guild decision to the table.

We really gave an effort to make Kaineng our home, but it wasn’t meant to be. On that note did not quite a few kain enjoy the ride I seem to remember that being the case. On another note, we were asked to not play for PPT much for this matchup. It seems Kaineng is just fine without the two guilds they feared leaving would plummet them down to T8. For those staying on Kaineng do not sell yourselves short by giving away a matchup, you only know where you really belong by coming out and fighting regardless of the situation.

Thank you to everyone that took the time to read this, regardless of your reaction to it. I hope where we end up it will be a good fit for us and I would wish the same to any guild looking for a stable home.

P. S. {Noted this in the title too somewhat} My post is personal opinion and is no way an official RE statement, just to make that clear.

lilcoffeebean.3149:

SykkoB.9465:

or u never bothered to get on vent with them even tho they spammed it in team chat all the time

anyways lets not derail this thread anymore anyone who needs na coverage that gets [RE] will be stronger for it

Heh, I could write a few pages on what I ‘remember’ about this guild but you are right, this isn’t the place to derail it. I will leave it at this, as long as darkhaven is not considered best of luck.

Just wanted to say, its been months since RE was on Darkhaven, so negative opinions from when we were there do not hold weight since we have changed quite a bit since, as I’m sure our old server mates have changed too. About the TS, the RE TS was up before the kain TS we offered it as soon as WM pulled the plug on the old one no one was denied but when we saw less and less coming into the BL channels for our TS we just stuck in there and when we offered for the BL we were on we would drop down if people showed up. It’s Not the same issue as any of the other servers who had a long standing TS site. If we stayed on kain longer we would have eventually worked out a rotation between the servers TS and ours I’m sure.

So, not to go off topic too much. I’m just a regular member thats been with RE for almost the entire time GW2 has been out. I’ve seen comments such as server hopper or bandwagon guild get tossed about from a select few in this thread. RE’s history comprises of Game release-December on Darkhaven. Then we were one of the first to make the transition to Kaineng, December till well the Present actually. That is our history, so we give the servers we’ve been on more than enough time to decide if it would be our home. That search didn’t end where we hoped so that is what led to this thread, the search for home.

Of the transfers RE and FBA are just about the last of the transfers that came to Kaineng and we fought hard to make our stay on Kaineng work long after the other guilds left. In regards to anyone on Kain feeling betrayed by a promise made long ago, if you were in our shoes and the choice was between upholding a promise and losing your core players, or moving to where your core players will be happy, what would you have decided? To all those selling your servers WvW to us, might I advise you to be selling your community as a whole instead, all the recruitment threads have been out for us to see, we want to see more than the normal copy paste sentiments.

P.S. Read in a nonchalant tone cause there isnt a lot of anger or rage intended by my post, just stating facts that needed to be adressed.(would have quoted ppl I’m referring to but that would make my post even longer so….)

I’m really bad with quotes on the forums since I barely like logging into them to post but yea the guy from War got it right somewhat part of it was response to his post but it was a compilation response to all that was said before my post so it can be seen how its a little hard to follow unless you read everyones posts. Also I was really tired when I posted that wall of text, I’m guilty as are many before me of posting more than I need to say at times. At any rate the fights are awesome all things considered there have been more open field fights going on from all sides and that in itself is a good time. See you all on the battlefield on my nub guardian painted like iron man lol.

Not sure what all the fuss is about, mag has their zerg time yaks has theirs and kain has ours to say each team doesnt stomp the other with 2:1, 3:1, and yes sometimes 4:1 odds is stupid, why complain when it happens to you if you do it to us, somehow you doing it makes it right? I havent been on the borderlands much the past two weeks as our guild has been on EB, but I’ve seen maguuma use more arrow carts and more effectively than any other server since the change so I really dont know why they would be complaining about our side using it in any situation other than telling us how poorly it might be set up when they get to one they see. Most of RE’s builds are built for group battles not 1 on 1 or 1v3 combat so thinking that your kill squads owning us when we get seperated is doing anything impressive is kindof funny. To the hills save we did the 2nd time we only had 15 come in to wipe your 15-20 this is estimating btw the numbers in the keep were about even as they could get we just got the jump on you there so chill(btw you guys even claim to do the same map hopping to save keeps so why complain when another group does it). I have had some amazing fights this weekend so far but it annoys me that we cant give respect when its due, like when mags gets SM, they can golem rush no prob cause after repeatedly telling our side to do it there is little defensive siege set up, but when mags owns SM you better believe there will be massive amounts of siege in there and golem rushing for our side isnt an option, we need to get to that level of defending capability. Mags this kain is still reorganizing, to think we’re fully ready yet to be the opponents you seem to want, you may havto wait some time. After all this is the first week we’re completely on our own, kain defenders without false numbers.

While not trying to sound doom and gloom like others, we on KN have felt a significant push from both sides since we started losing players and our core just cant keep playing like this to stay in tier 2. I actually told guys that I want to go to tier 3 just to have a fair fight. Outmanned on every map we’re on just isnt going to cut it for tier 2. To all those hoping for an epic WM return to save the day, that isnt coming, what WM you see is what you get. They are a great group of people but life happens you know so correct me if I’m wrong but the numbers of them you see now is what there will always be now.

On another note I really enjoyed the fights last night in EB, even outmanned we managed to harrass the hell out of FA right before the shutdown. We had maybe 8 guys rolling together on the whole map so it was funny to see FA watching us as we took Langor. To TC crazy 4 omega 5 alpha golem rush on our keep with 7 defenders and little siege to stop ya, thanks for letting us get it back I guess, but still didnt take the burn off losing it upgraded.

Hey guys, just wanted to give a shout out to the TC ashuran from myth that partied me last night outside dawns, that was some funny stuff. You said, hey bro how bout lettin me have that tower, my response, hell nah lol. In reality ive kept a personal watch on that tower with repair runs, counter trebs, and call outs for the better part of the day well into the next morning defending that tower. So no way was I going to just give it up without a fight, stopped a ninja group just as they laid down a ram, was kinda funny too.

Major props to all our guys for finally turning our BL completely blue even for a short time. KN is full of fighters, and I understand the view of TC but thing is, we kain are pulling everything we had when we won b4, you guys just have more numbers throughout most our timezones so its tough just getting our BL cleared let alone getting fights going in other maps, in NA prime we were outmanned for 4-5 hours straight in our BL, if not for FA keeping you busy we may have lost our upgraded stuff a lot sooner. Btw I couldnt believe my eyes last night when FA brought in everything they had through North bay gate and just rolled right back out when we had the outmanned buff, was that just to say Hi! or what lol, our assumptions were something happened on another map you needed to respond to major props either way.

The fight is still here just a lot harder for us than it has been, lost a few to burnout but not enough to be out of fight. Bad thing is 15-20 boost from multi guilds for TC will just lead them to a bigger point spread and a possible T1 visit soon enough, gratz on getting those guys just sayin we love T2 and we know you do, the more you get will likely push us out or you up just putting that out there. Just sayin the numbers you see are the numbers we always had, so dont chalk this week up to a burnt out kain, expect this to be our normal turnout, realize that your guys are just out there more than ever. Also what we see now is subject to change, no1 knows the future of our 3 servers, things may balance out after all in a few weeks we’ll see.

Great fights all, I was among the group fighting on FABL last night for most of the night, we had hills prepped up for a northern attack but not enough siege prepped for a TC assault from south, problem was FA and TC hit us at a moment when we were severely outnumbered and outmanned, the lack of defense on hills(ok had to add this cause I know ppl will say well 10 ppl on well placed siege can stop a zerg, we had two zergs hitting at the same time, and our 10 couldnt get inside) was more or less us realizing our efforts should be moved to TCBL where we were also outmanned since we couldnt get aide to FABL, so we went reinforce our people holding bay. When we got to TCBL we had some more amazing fights pushing TC off bay and wiping FA off our side. Great fights all lets keep it up.

It was an eerie night atop the Eternal Battlegrounds Puzzle, my foe you and I had fought hard against a common enemy that had been camping this spot for hours on end, we relax for there was a peaceful lull in the air, no friendly or enemy in sight just you and I. We talked for what seemed like hours until our silent night was broken by the enemy we thought long gone from this zone, we stood back to back and made ready our weapons, prepared to die I said to you, whatever the outcome of this battle my friend we die with honor, and die together. The battle ensues I down my enemy my newfound friend downs another, it looked as though we may win the day then out of nowhere an enemy necro fears us off the cliff, and our bodies lay in the grassy meadow and it was calm and quiet again, as if it were all but a dream of the time that had passed before us.
This night will live on if only, through the whispers of the wind, or on the still bloodstained weapons we refused to clean after the battle as a reminder of that time where foe became friend.

Wanna give a shoutout to the PinK Thief I fought outside bay last night, that was a classy duel, that I’m sure we both werent expecting. I had just gotten my guardian to 80 and geared so that was a fun test to show me how much I still need to learn, thanks again for not spiking me and allowing me to bow and walk away. To the guys from BG we fought in EB outside Klovan, that was a lot of fun idk about you guys, I just kept wanting to come back for more punishment lol. Fun fights all around guys keep it up, I’ll cya on the battlefield.

Did not mean to ninja into your thread but the same DB group was hacking in our matchup last week as well, taking all 4 of kains side of EB’s fully upgraded towers in the span of 5 minutes, then rotating back as we pvdoord them back, shame to see you guys on mag are finding out about that rogue group now, they targetted us last week and now you guys gotta be the victims, hope these guys get caught for your sake and for all future matchups DB is in, its not fair to their server to have this group ruin their rep.

I had to laugh at that answer, cause honestly I expected too highly of our opponents to even consider my proposal even as serious as it was meant to be.

Exactly what I’m saying, but that point gets missed, we have work to do, its not going to magically get better overnight(our coordination and skills that is). Our server has a lot of work to do, this matchup is what we needed, sadly people want to turn a learning experience into a “wow blah blah that zerg blah blah” something along those lines. Kash is on the right track, our mentality has weakened on our trail up, we do not fight like we should and know this. So whats it gonna be, accept that we know this and just keep beating us on the field, or will we see more forum comments on how bad we are?

Not even gonna go there lol, as I’ve said before, mags pure core is NA, the odds of our NA “crushing” your core is unlikely. But I wont say some of our groups dont give great fights that you’re probably missing on the battlefield.

lol we should just vote for a thread lock and try to start the next thread on a better note but thats probably just wishful thinking.

Thing is, everyone wants to highlight Kainengs bads, it’s the same story in every one of our threads, I should have screenshot all the times I’ve seen other servers roll in and get crushed by equal numbers or less but then that would be blasphemy, I’d be trolled off the forums if I had posted any. Every server has their bad wvw players, labeling the entire servers NA group when you yourself have only most likely faced a portion of them is an unfair statement after day one. If you still think all of kains NA are bads then so be it, we’ll be seperated next week regardless of the score anyways.

Back to this, we havent had to fight in NA primetime beyond reset night for a month now, lotta ppl got rusty and a lot never fought like we need to fight now, excuses aside, you have the right to your opinion. We may not be the best but we don’t quit when we’re backed into a corner like we were last night. Also try to remember, and I am assuming you’re on maguuma xxxzav, maguuma is prime time NA, thats when your best players come out, is it really much to say that you beat a group of NA that hasnt had a fight together(since T8 and picking up new guilds) to learn coordination to combat an existing solid core group? Kainengs T8 NA core has a lotta heart and you havent seen most of them post on here, its mostly us that have been to T4 and higher before responding. They have a lot to learn, so do we, this situation is why we did not want to go to tier 1 without hitting a brick wall of some sort to learn from.

Zephyrus, what time did you get in the fight last night, because it was us Kaineng, that first broke garrisons wall on cragtops side(east tower) and we also were holding sunnyhill(west tower), walls were down on both sides but with the pressure from mag on the west and db on the east we got spread to thin for the few that were allowed in. DB rolled in with 6 trebs on crag, took it, then took advantage of the walls we had down when we pushed in with our full force from the west side. We destroyed enough counter trebs facing crag to know DB wasnt the first to break the walls down. Back to the after party though, it was a crazy fight inside, for all it was a race to cap for us and a race for mag to push both servers out. This is the kinda stuff I wanna see when I get off work.

Just one night and judging the whole server, crazy eh. Dragonbrand knows how that talk goes on though, they night capped DH for weeks in a row its not new news, nightcapping happens. Why cant we just try and enjoy this fight, the tiers are getting rocked after this, enjoy what fight you can get out of us.

Sigh, why do we even bother, people look at the thread title and dont even read some of the posts before making their biased opinion on something else totally different than the real topic.

Its too early to claim a win isaac, I remember back on DH when a server had a 30k lead and came back to win it, now if it was 200k to 20k and 15k already at this point, then yea we’d call the match, but tbh with the matchup reset winning doesnt really matter and will not matter for a long time other than to get the tiers back where they were b4 the reset.

If you’re talking about the garrison on kain BL after reset, the walls were down on both sides for several hours, it was the lords room that was the biggest issue, it really was an ongoing and long 3 way fight in there. Rezzed up mags would run back to garrison while kain and DB fought each other out of the circle for control to fix the inner gates then push out those of us left inside, was a remarkable effort.
Just reread ur comment and remembered what screenshot you were looking at Draygo, in that screenshot we werent attacking east tower, we were in it, and lost it to 6 trebs. So that explains that screenshot. we held both towers for a long time we ended up giving the east one up to do like u said, put full pressure on garrison.

Also, the log off in party thing has been around since launch but, reset night was the first time it showed someone that was in my party, that I know for a fact was offline, As Online while still in my group. Seems a bit odd to me its always shown me where the person logged off at just never that the persons char was still online when he wasnt.

Way to keep the thread classy Fiction, try not to make comments like those, kains been fairly good in the previous matchups about not getting a thread locked till late in the week or even at all. I really do not understand all the hate, kains here, we do exist, and yes we need a spanking so I’m looking forward to more wait….. I mean oh well yes bring on the spankings.

Not in those extreme numbers ofc but technically thats what people are asking, It is said each map and each server in those maps can have 133-166 ppl dunno about that number ppl have said either. What we have seen on reset night, just from a kaineng perspective, we lost our map to an 80 man rougly guessing zerg of maguuma and maybe a 65+ish DB group, When we ourseleves could only find 40-50 on, with a queue, meaning we could not even come close to spreading out to take stuff alone, each camp was guarded by 5-10 of either mags or DB, with 20ish group waiting for us(kain) to attempt to take even a supply camp, we had to roll 30 people to not only crush the ones defending but to prepare for the oncoming 20 man group while rezzing our dead. Not exactly the best situation to be in when you have the other group attacking your only tower(s). That left us with 5 ish ppl in either tower and no1 anywhere else on the map. Anet should add a counter, showing the max players and how many of that max are on in each map, so not only commanders can know if their map is truly full or not, but anet can keep track of future queue bugs.