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PoF: Noble NPCs of Amnoon

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It’s been a few days since the beta and this topic seems to have fallen beneath the radar. Perhaps attributed as an unjustified complaint or a non issue. Below are a few additions in another attempt to bring a fuller explanation of the initial post.

Why does the skin color of the Amnoon nobles cause concern? There are many reasons but the main ones will attempt to be addressed.

  • There are no other characters with darker skin tones who are repeatedly shown as the heroes of Guild Wars 2 current iteration. This is first and foremost a thing that troubles and has always troubled while playing the game. Certainly PoF might alter the landscape for this scenario but for the core game and first xpac, such was not the case. We have different races, certainly in both the old and new Destiny’s Edge but very similar nationalities.

“But there’s Jennah.” Certainly, she’s olive-skinned and so her heritage is nicely ambiguous but again, she is not dark skinned. “But there’s Braham!” Certainly, and his father having dark skin was a hotly contested point on these forums and other sites which continuously attempted to hold up the standard which is still repeated, that Norn cannot/should not be dark skinned. Over the years, this has been continually seen in the game world among players, especially with the resurgence of Viking popularity in media.

While playing through the Living Stories, season after season, the hope to see the repeat appearance of an NPC aiding Destiny’s edge who was close to a chocolate hue, kept me logging in. Magister Ela Makkay was as close an answer as could be hoped for. Especially after the disappointment of making an Elonian character and seeing her supposed sister.

  • There is only one human noble NPC female and male model with dark skin in the game. Even the child NPCs don’t have dark skin. Not in Ossan, not in Lion’s Arch. Not anywhere that has been seen. The named nobles of Claypool, Beetletun, Queensdale forest, etc, are olive toned at darkest. The Thackary stable NPC cycles between all available male noble models it seems. That aside, the lack was observed over the years of hunting for roleplay spots which often means sitting in places for hours just watching the NPCs. In all these years, only two NPC models were ever found with deeper skin tones among the nobility.

Why is this a problem? Because this continues to support a mindset that deeper skin is less noble or less able to be a noble. That to be noble, one must be ‘fairer skinned’. A personal character which has been played since getting this game has had her noble status challenged to her face because of how dark she is. Challenges which often moved into tells requiring defense of a skin tone choice. We as players, use the visual cues of the gaming world as a standard by which our characters can be modeled after in behavior and outlook. A lack of representation suggests such things cannot be and the question becomes then, why not? This is not an isolated personal incident.

  • Nightfall was marvelous and it shouldn’t be the last time in Guild Wars, one can find a deep skinned noble. Truly, Guild Wars as a franchise has sought to break many barriers and boundaries. Offering sexual equality in roles and positions. Representing that love sees only people, not gender and that those with physical difficulties can find ways to not merely keep up but to excel. With all of that said and done, to enter the continent of Elona and again come face to face with what felt like a tired and hurtful trope, was dismaying. Where were the deep skinned princes of Vabbi? Their blood? Those like them who looked like so many players of this game? Those skin tones are still clearly in the nation, yet somehow didn’t climb the ranks? Council members but never nobility? A glass ceiling of a kind but hopefully one which will not remain.
  • It’s a bit off-putting. This is a great game. It’s an amazingly written, designed and handled game on many levels. At the time of its release, it was one of the lone games picked up where a character of color could be made with realistic skin tones. That was a delight and a joy.

But over the years of playing, a pattern emerged. One of having people whisper that it was unusual to see a PC with such dark skin. That they couldn’t be brave enough to play, let alone roleplay a character with dark skin. That somehow the act of logging in with a character with dark skin was amazing to them but not something they would ever feel comfortable doing…then yes. There is a problem here which should not be glossed over. That should not be glanced at with a roll of the eyes. A thing which could be changed in hopefully, a meaningful way without a great deal of effort.

  • Again, this is not a personal, isolated occurrence. But one which has been remarked on by others who play deeper skinned characters. So much so that a player asked to survey other players of Elonian characters for a college paper. When a question like “Do you feel safe playing this character?” is asked, does that not seem strange?

ln conclusion, the addition of more ethnic faces and hair after years of requests was a great start to what many might say should have existed from the beginning given the lineage of Nightfall. But better late than never, as with some other games. Still, it would be wonderful to log in and see more NPCs who look like friends and family. To see the daring do and heroes who return to fight again beside us, not simply as one-shot cameos, look like people who are on this side of the screen. To see a deeper skinned hero on the screen which the player doesn’t have to make for themselves in order to view.

Because in the end, the NPCs tell us that we the players can not only be whatever we want, but also that we should never feel uncomfortable or as if the characters we make, don’t belong in that world.

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PoF: Noble NPCs of Amnoon

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I am curious of why it’s deemed silly to note something of concern. There are clearly refugees and merchants of varied skin tones, and one of the nobles comments of losing their home. Why wouldn’t nobles from other places also be in Amnoon for a similar reason?

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PoF: Noble NPCs of Amnoon

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Let this be prefaced with the acknowledgment that Elona is indeed, a fantasy area in a fantasy game. That GW2 and Arena Net has created one of the few games that are so hugely diverse and inclusive that it’s mind blowing for all they’ve done and accomplished with dynamic and varied characters in the world.

That being said with underlining, there is some concern about the nobles all being fairer skinned. Both mounted and on foot, the entirety of the new map of Amnoon was searched and while citizens, refugees, workers, miners, merchants and even the council came in a variety of tones, the ‘Nobles’ did not. These Nobles were indoors, outdoors, relaxing, chatting, a few even sunning themselves on the small beach available. It is deeply hoped that this is merely a case of being a beta demonstration and not a theme which will run widely throughout the expansion.

At any point, will this be adjusted to reflect a broader variety of nobles? Certainly, this is a beta but even in GW1, nobles came in a range of hues from fair to deepest. In GW2, while the darker nobles were mostly males, they still existed. It might seem like a small thing to inquire about but given how pleased much of the player base was to finally make a character that reflected their features, hair and skin tones….this feels like a small step back.

Here’s to having crossed fingers.

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[Suggestions] Please Bring Back these Gem Stores Items

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Scholar outfit please? It hasn’t been around since the launch of gw2 but really, it’s a gorgeous outfit and I’d love to see it return.

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Post pics of your new Elonian characters!

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I’ve played an Elonian since starting GW2 4+ years ago. Here are my darling noble sisters of Tarnished Coast!

Lady Kalonah Wrathraven, she co heads an Elonian community center, so fun. Also runs a clothing shop and is a stepmother to two great kids. Engaged and having a ball blasting stuff as only a Mesmer can. A golden eyed goddess of the battlefield and refined ball alike.

Her big sister, Lady Deborah Valdyr. Runs a shipping company, is an Ebon Vanguard and overall, kicks tail as an Ele! A rum ready soldier in a martial house of Valdyr, her love calls her Tigress for many reasons, the least of which is due to her favoring fang like daggers in a fight.

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[Suggestion] Updating Colors for Accessories

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Okay, we have won one small battle in the expanded hair accessory colors war but the fight’s not over yet! Is it still impossible to get the rest of the beautifully extensive hair/eye colors added to the accessory palette or a small box in the UI to let us recolor that thing? The new colors for accessories are awesome, yes. However, a basic black and white could’ve gone so far for many people. Is this still in the works?

Yes, I know this is like, a super necro thread but the battle rages on!

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Nobles and Villagers' clothes

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I want those and Demi Beetlestone’s dress. The china servers got it, why can’t we also get it? http://31.media.tumblr.com/cae3612911dd8584cc9539453267a85e/tumblr_mlgz0wsQRn1sotb2yo1_400.jpg

Or any of the many, many other armors which aren’t available to the playing populace yet? https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/257iyp/list_of_unobtainable_armor_skins/

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GW2 Roleplayers Site!

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For those who are seeking a wonderful site for Guild Wars 2 Roleplay, look no further than http://www.guildwars2roleplayers.com ! Events for North America and Europe time zones can be found there, made and new people are always welcomed!

note: Not a moderator, just a long time participant and thought that new RPers might wish to know about the information of the site.

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[Suggestion] Guild Hall - Practice Dummies

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I would LOVE to have some practice dummies in our guild hall. Yes please, yes!

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Give Black Lion dyes their own category

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Exotic for sure, yes. Fully support this proposal.

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[Help] Tough Tormentor conversion

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First of all, first time poster in this subforum. Secondly, I’m not a build crafter and the present build took a long while to even get close to this: Nicknamed Tough Tormentor.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhEQNArdRlknpTtlqxBNUrNitBdyakDUPkjsySGghB-ThyCABAcGDi4AJIjqATp8LMlgI/IAEa/hHV7ZEdMzpNIAACQIxAMdTOxTeyJWIAFrBA-e

Essentially my mesmer is Soldier’s build and used traits, food, runes and sigils to largely let Torment whittle away at enemy health, give herself a little might and spawn clones like an Inquest lab with a vat of protein. Post this patch, that build is now in the wind. Are there any tips from build gurus of how to make a similarly traited build in the new system?

While sticking to pvt? Thanks very much to any who can offer some insight!

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[Question] Will any other areas be 'fixed' ?

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Seraph Fallen Angels have fairly narrow jurisdiction in Ebonhawke. They’re an honor guard in many ways and support for the truce, but the primary military force in Ebonhawke are the Ebon Vanguard.

But I’m guessing there’s no other buildings in other areas/cities/etc which could use ‘finishing up’ ?

@Celtic Lady, true. It’s already a little bit neater than when the tower went down in certain areas.

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[Question] Will any other areas be 'fixed' ?

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Ebonhawke is a city in an area called Fields of Ruin that’s of Ascalon. However, I have edited the topic to bring it to a more broad definition.

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[Question] Will any other areas be 'fixed' ?

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Lion’s Arch is a large trade and RP hub, it’s restoration is highly anticipated by many players including myself. The new look sounds exciting. But, it is wondered, will other cities receive a face lift too?

Also, with the removal of the Breachmaker, will Scarlett’s energy probes slowly start vanishing from the landscape?

To my fellow players, what other places are felt to be in need of patching up? The list so far.

Ascalon:

Ebonhawke still has entire sections in the north and north west burned down and destroyed. While it is ‘flavor destruction’ it seems strange that Divinity’s Reach built an entire Pavilion with Ebonhawke stone before Ebonhawke could repair its own structures. Maybe another market area, tavern or even community parkish spot would be lovely there. Separatist free of course.

Kryta:

Divinitys Reach:

Ossan District is in a constant state of ‘patchy repainting’ and it might be nice to have a more uniform appearance to the area.

Rurikton has the scaffolding behind Minister Wii’s manor which has been there since launch.

The Eastern commons in Divinity’s Reach near the carnival show is also still being ‘built’ and has been for some time. Perhaps just a little progress in that area or it can be the location for a new housing, area, building?

Kessex Hills. This is just an entire map which many in the player base are hoping will be restored soon.

Fort Salma. It might be a bit too soon to restore this particular land mark but much like Lion’s Arch, it’s strange that this key spot in Seraph military is being progressed. Perhaps shifting the Fort to a seize state much like the bastions in Silverwastes? Players can clear it and hold it for a while through Dynamic Events. A while being 1 hour or such.

Caledon

Bay Haven north of Sandycove Beach is another location which is in a state of static repair.

Metrica Province

Shiverpeaks

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Bored of Hairstyles.

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The spider lily one is gorgeous. I’d make a manvari for that one.

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[Suggestion] Updating Colors for Accessories

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The ability to preview still locked dyes is amazing! Will this be a trial run before we’re able to see offered dyes for make over kits to use on accessories and the like? Will this ever include Charr horns and Norn tattoos as well?

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Soldier gear - good or useless?

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I started as Valkyrie which wasn’t bad but I still died more than I’d have liked. Since going full Soldiers (and I mean FULL) I’m typically the last person standing in a dungeon/fractal/pve runs. I can’t say if this would be true in PvP as I don’t PvP. Still, play what’s enjoyed, invest in sharpening stones, orrian steak frittes and such if attempting Soldiers.

The biggest downside to a PVT build are for things like the quicksand achieve or fights where the more health you have, the more damage you’ll take. Then it’s a ruddy evil burden to bear.

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Centha VS Elona [Poll]

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Elona primarily because there might be less delays and issues from the Chinese market of Anet’s game releases. Don’t imagine there would be, only that the devs would wish to ensure there weren’t any offending content whereas we can hope there’d not be as much to filter for Elon?

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More Bags.Inventory is fast full with 8 bags

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Even with a full brace of 20 slot bags and all bag slots made available, I still run out of room. It would be great to have a 9th one or at least a new guild bank to work towards jointly with other people.

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More natural hair styles please!!!

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Truthfully, I would enjoy if my elonian had the option for the Sengalese twists or even the existing Norn hair style with the braid/dreadlock bun and ponytail.

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[Suggestion] Updating Colors for Accessories

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By any chance, would it be difficult to also include the new colors into the Sylvari glows as well? Or skin tones?

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[Suggestion] Updating Colors for Accessories

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Since the hero panel was revamped to make room for finishers, wardrobe, outfits and other visual changes, a small box for accessories to be recolored doesn’t seem impossible but that’s up to the devs to say in the end. Maybe in the space on the hero panel beside our class symbol in the upper right where the previous list of Charm/Nobility/Ferocity used to be?

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[Suggestion] Updating Colors for Accessories

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Thank you hugely Gaile for the reply and effort. Even if the change is eventually tied to a make over kit since those accessories are part of character hair/items, it would still be a huge boost in variety for the players. It might be nicer if it was available outside of the kit however.

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[Suggestion] Updating Colors for Accessories

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This has been a thing which has been a question to me for a while.

Is there no way at all to allow us to recolor the hair accessories without a make over kit? If not, is there a way please to -add- colors to them?

We’ve been provided a dizzying array of new colors for our eyes, our hair and the skin tone palette in GW2 is one of the most extensive I’ve seen in a long while.

But the hair accessories continue to be sparse in choice and appearance. Is there a chance this could be updated soon? If it’s one of those nearly impossible things then that’s understandable.

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Custom Arenas: More Admins/Less Hindrance

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Yes please. Please make it so that arenas can have multiple permissions on them or be guild purchaseable so that ranked officers can be the ones to use them. My guild would love to buy an arena but realize that not everyone will be on at the same time. There’s at least an officer on every time slot but everyone’s got lives here.

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Human Priest Armor - how to get them

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For priest of Grenth, depending on the NPCs seen, the helm is either Winged or nothing and the shoulders are Deathly Bull’s skin

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Please stop adding content to LA

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god please yes please STOP adding stuff in LA. I log into that city and can go make a cup of tea in the time it takes to actually get out of the load screen. This is tea via heating water in an electric kettle.

My system’s not a monster but it’s not ancient tech either and the MBps is good quality. It just takes the day after Ragnarok to load that place and then enjoy all of the models playing RAM catch up with my vid card to see more than floating weapons and a locked POV.

Would kill for some stuff in Hoelbrak and I don’t even play a Norn! Rata Sum’s simple in the lay out. Perfect for fun stuff. The Adventure Box was great but hardly in a place to really explore the city.

Grove needs love as much as any city, especially the bottom and the inn.

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Uninstanced Salma District

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/signed

Salma how your ease and opulence are missed.

Avid RPer, gemstore buyer, breathlessly waiting for player housing or guild halls or something which takes more than 5 people at a time and is not focused purely around the PvP or WvW aspects.

Also, some gemstore shoes which are not boots but still look cute. nods

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