Guild Wars 2

Game freezes at end of prologue as if its starting a cutscene but client freezes completely.

Still same amount of slots I had before and all filled

I started during beta and I know =-)

I bought on the 16th and still no slot

I bought the expansion a week ago and still no character slot for my revenant! =-(

I have been loosing more and more respect for ANET over the past month or 2. Likewise I have lost a lot of respect for Wooden Potatoes. I disagree with their business model for the game and the fact that all of the cool things are totally tailored towards elitists (though there is a fair bit of catering towards new players). I just dont see much that I feel is for me in GW2 anymore with HoT. Wooden potatoes has no job, kids or wife to spend time on and therefore thinks that all the best content should be only accessible to those like him who can spend 100 hours a week in game and are in the top “5%” of players in the game. It seems that ANET takes his opinion as the official opinion of the GW2 player base which is not accurate. Charging your early supporters this price to get the expansion and giving what your early supporters paid for to new players for free at along with the expansion for free is downright disrespectful and wrong. I would have bought HoT a long time ago at a reasonable price before they said that they were nerfing dungeon rewards and Id be wasting my time doing raids as Im not in the Elite tier of players. There is little reason for me to buy HoT other than to have it so I can have the new maps to play on. I also paid full price for 6 accounts for me, my wife, my kids and my sister. It would cost me 300 dollars to get a basic upgrade for our accounts.

I know some of you feel that I am cheap for expecting them to give a reasonable discount to players who already bought the game. I know that you feel the time Ive already played the game to be my moneys worth but I wasnt aware that I was buying a game with a time limit. I know that if this were a game with monthly charges Id pay more, but I didnt buy a game with monthly charges because I have no interest in paying that much. I know all of these arguments and I dont wish to explain the counter logic to each of them but the bottom line is I know when Im being overcharged so I wont buy it!

Im not going to continue to argue the logic behind paying the same price just for expansion as others pay for the whole game. This only makes people who obviously support this decision attempt to insult my intelligence which I am not interested in. As Gale said, I will just not buy HoT which probably means my time here is pretty much expired. I had no idea I was buying a time gated game when I bought GW2 but I have been wrong before.

I understand now after reading the arguments that buying this game entitles you to about 3 years of fun according to some people (Including Anet) That is fine, but I cant afford to upgrade me and my familys accounts at this price and dont agree that I should have to. Im sure that many in my guild will pay though as we were founded during beta and have spent a lot of time and effort building to this point. If they do, they will probably be playing HoT content which leaves me with no guild to play with so I guess my days are over. I will miss this game however so I will say good job on making 2 great games that have filled my free time for 10 years Anet!

If I see one more troll saying that people who already bought the game must want new players to pay twice I will loose faith that human beings have great brains. wanting to pay less for just HoT content that was not a part of the core game if you already bought the core and wanting people who get both for what they charge you just for the new stuff is not the same as wanting people to pay more! That is the dumbest thing I ever heard for someone to get that from a sentence saying we should pay less to add the new content to our already paid for accounts!

Some of the arguments are not even related to the topic. HoT for someone who hasnt already bought the Core game is priced well in my opinion. Having to pay the same as those who have not already bought the core game for people who did is a bad deal all day long.
Some of you are comparing it to entitlement and to time enjoyed etc. I bought many games many years ago that I still get to enjoy when I feel like it. I still have PS1 games that I go back to from time to time. I still play GW1 from time to time. I bought this game so that I COULD enjoy it as much as I wanted.
Some are arguing that games like WoW would charge us monthly but I didnt buy WoW for that reason! I bought GW2 because I want to have permanent access to the games I spend my hard earned money on. If I am not mistaken (which is possible as noone is always right) the reason that most people who gave Guild Wars a chance is because they advertised that there was no monthly fee! Thats why I bought GW1 and thats also why I bought GW2.
I want to hear Anet say that my purchase is invalid and Ive used up my time with the game now that Ive had 3 years to enjoy it. It doesnt matter if you feel Ive had my moneys worth. If you feel like you have then you go ahead and pay again to renew your purchase and Im sure noone will try and stop you. We did not buy a time gated game and we did not buy a subscription based game and at least in my case this was done on purpose so the amount of time I got to enjoy it is irrelevant.

Some of the arguments are not even related to the topic. HoT for someone who hasnt already bought the Core game is priced well in my opinion. Having to pay the same as those who have not already bought the core game for people who did is a bad deal all day long.

Some of you are comparing it to entitlement and to time enjoyed etc. I bought many games many years ago that I still get to enjoy when I feel like it. I still have PS1 games that I go back to from time to time. I still play GW1 from time to time. I bought this game so that I COULD enjoy it as much as I wanted.

Some are arguing that games like WoW would charge us monthly but I didnt buy WoW for that reason! I bought GW2 because I want to have permanent access to the games I spend my hard earned money on. If I am not mistaken (which is possible as noone is always right) the reason that most people who gave Guild Wars a chance is because they advertised that there was no monthly fee! Thats why I bought GW1 and thats also why I bought GW2.

I want to hear Anet say that my purchase is invalid and Ive used up my time with the game now that Ive had 3 years to enjoy it. It doesnt matter if you feel Ive had my moneys worth. If you feel like you have then you go ahead and pay again to renew your purchase and Im sure noone will try and stop you. We did not buy a time gated game and we did not buy a subscription based game and at least in my case this was done on purpose so the amount of time I got to enjoy it is irrelevant.

PopeUrban.2578:

dane.4638:

PopeUrban.2578:

Ghosttalon.2416:

What are you talking about? As a consumer who’s bought a product people have every right to complain. There’s no “entitlement” to be had, we paid the product and therefore we are by every means allowed to be angry when a company does makes it free to play. It de-values the game for the old players, makes them feel as if they only paid to have some extra perks rather than have exclusive access to the game. Of course A-net knows that this backlash would have been created, they are prepared to take that risk because they know not all old players will leave and even if they do, the new ones would still most likely bring them profit. They think that they can earn back a portion of their fanbase with a mediocre armor skin but unfortunatly that doesn’t cut it. Nothing A-net can do will make me regain their trust.

You do have a right to be angry. The rest of us also have just as much of a right to be annoyed with your anger.

This entire argument stems from the idea that having bought the game at release somehow makes you deserving of special treatment. That you’re worth significantly more than a new player. Dude. You’ve had a full fledged MMO to play for 3 years. You can’t sell your account. What value have you lost exactly?

You’re saying the price you paid at release wasn’t worth the live events and time you’ve been able to play the game with no additional cost? Really? It’s not like it’s been six months since release. This is three years later

It doesn’t make sense to me. Only highly prized luxury items are intended to appreciate in value over time. Every other product depreciates in value. That’s just basic economics.

Every time I see this complaint I just wonder “did these people forget they’ve been playing a subscription free game for three years with a mass of free content and updates, roughly half of which is unplayable by new players because it was all live events?”

You’re acting like you bought land, or precious metals, or something that operates on a completely different set of economic rules.

There is nothing in what was said that implies that anyone thinks theyre special and entitled to special treatment. You completely changed it up to make it sound ridiculous. Expecting to not pay the amount that people have to pay for the full core game + HoT content if they already bought the core content is not the same as wanting special treatment. In fact its the opposite as they don’t want to be the special ones that pay for the core game twice! And before you say theyre not paying for the core game again I will preempt you by simply saying when you pay what they charge for HoT + core and you already bought core, you are in fact paying for core twice. Noone wants HoT for free so please stop saying that. We just want to pay for the expansion and not for the whole game over again which means we pay LESS not nothing at all! Btw I have no problem with the ftp model. I think its good for the game with the restrictions in play. I just doent think that when you do pay for HoT that vets should have to pay what is essentially a full package when we already bought at least half of that package.

Again, core costs nothing now. It used to cost money, but now it doesn’t. You’re not paying for core twice. You’re upset that core was made free, and you feel as if you’re entitled to a discount because you bought core a while back before it was offered for free.

The economic model here is pretty clear. After three years anet decided they don’t feel like it’s reasonable to charge for core any more, so they’re not. You enjoyed the game during a time when it was locked behind a purchase price. That is what you paid for, and that is what you got.

I understand you feel like you deserve a discount based upon your previous purchase history. The thing is, you’re on even footing with everyone as of the release of HoT. There is no longer a purchase price for core. You’re paying the same for HoT as a brand new player.

I realize I can’t convince you of the reality that core no longer costs money and you are not paying for a bundle, you are paying for HoT but that’s exactly what happening.

I’m sure we’ll be having this conversation again when the next expansion releases, and some of the people that started playing around HoT release also feel they’re owed some form of discount.

Now, if the argument is HoT should cost less, that’s a different story. I think it’s a perfectly fine price point but I realize there are some who think it’s a bit high. That’s not the viewpoint I’m disputing though.

You already got massive value for your purchase price of of the core game.

And once again core does not cost nothing now! Core is not being sold alone anymore but the free version is not the core game. The free version is a restricted version of the core game. Also you cant point out a single sentence in what I wrote that says I think anyone OWES me anything, but of course you will translate what you want from it and its useless to argue with someone who believes they are right as people are steadfast in their opinions which is ok. I will just state one more time that it is MY opinion (as well as many others but were talking about me right now) that the expansion should be cheaper for people who already bought the game. Not only will that mean more sales to people who already play but it also means you keep the population in the new maps up. I know lots of people who havent bought HoT for this reason who like me already have a bunch of level 80 toons who have finished the rest of the story and would be good for keeping up the population on the new maps etc. It is my opinion that keeping their player base from feeling shorted and keeping their veteran high level population up will be in Anets best interest.

I would also like to formally welcome all ftp players! =-)

It is useless to try and convince people who are hard bent on accusations and name calling to look at things logically. It is also useless to try to convince people that the ftp model is good. I do think that the ftp model is good and welcome all new players. I also think that those who already bought the core game should be able to continue their journey with the HoT expansion by being offered Just the HoT content at a lesser price than what they are charging for people who buy the full HoT expansion plus the core game.

This is not an issue of entitlement or wanting freebies as these people all paid for the basic experience and aren’t getting as much out of this purchase as new accounts are. No matter how many names you come up with or how many mean nasty rude puns you come up with.

I would love to continue my journey but at this price its simply not in my budget nor is it fair to charge us for what we already paid for just because it was repackaged with the new content. I would have to upgrade 6 accounts that I already paid for at at least 50 dollars each just to get the added content for HoT when new players come in and get it all for what I am paying for just the new content. I cannot and will not pay this so my journey must end here.

If Anet actually counted our purchase of the core game at all, they would charge less to upgrade existing core accounts. If that were the case I could afford to upgrade my familys accounts and would be more than willing to do so. This is not the case however so I guess whatever people who has never supported Anet before can just have the game now and the well over 1000 dollars Ive spent on this game AND GW1 to help support this game and to get a great experience until this point will benefit the new player with a shiny new 50 dollar bill.

I don’t blame Anet for me not being wealthy enough to upgrade my familys accounts but I do blame them for charging so much to do so. I would have no problem coming up with 20-30 dollars per account to upgrade them, but I cannot pay the full game price for the upgrade. That is ridiculous!

I also hope that the new players purchasing the game will understand that once a new expansion comes out they will also have to buy the game all over again instead of just paying for the new content as we do.

PopeUrban.2578:

Ghosttalon.2416:

What are you talking about? As a consumer who’s bought a product people have every right to complain. There’s no “entitlement” to be had, we paid the product and therefore we are by every means allowed to be angry when a company does makes it free to play. It de-values the game for the old players, makes them feel as if they only paid to have some extra perks rather than have exclusive access to the game. Of course A-net knows that this backlash would have been created, they are prepared to take that risk because they know not all old players will leave and even if they do, the new ones would still most likely bring them profit. They think that they can earn back a portion of their fanbase with a mediocre armor skin but unfortunatly that doesn’t cut it. Nothing A-net can do will make me regain their trust.

You do have a right to be angry. The rest of us also have just as much of a right to be annoyed with your anger.

This entire argument stems from the idea that having bought the game at release somehow makes you deserving of special treatment. That you’re worth significantly more than a new player. Dude. You’ve had a full fledged MMO to play for 3 years. You can’t sell your account. What value have you lost exactly?

You’re saying the price you paid at release wasn’t worth the live events and time you’ve been able to play the game with no additional cost? Really? It’s not like it’s been six months since release. This is three years later

It doesn’t make sense to me. Only highly prized luxury items are intended to appreciate in value over time. Every other product depreciates in value. That’s just basic economics.

Every time I see this complaint I just wonder “did these people forget they’ve been playing a subscription free game for three years with a mass of free content and updates, roughly half of which is unplayable by new players because it was all live events?”

You’re acting like you bought land, or precious metals, or something that operates on a completely different set of economic rules.

There is nothing in what was said that implies that anyone thinks theyre special and entitled to special treatment. You completely changed it up to make it sound ridiculous. Expecting to not pay the amount that people have to pay for the full core game + HoT content if they already bought the core content is not the same as wanting special treatment. In fact its the opposite as they don’t want to be the special ones that pay for the core game twice! And before you say theyre not paying for the core game again I will preempt you by simply saying when you pay what they charge for HoT + core and you already bought core, you are in fact paying for core twice. Noone wants HoT for free so please stop saying that. We just want to pay for the expansion and not for the whole game over again which means we pay LESS not nothing at all! Btw I have no problem with the ftp model. I think its good for the game with the restrictions in play. I just doent think that when you do pay for HoT that vets should have to pay what is essentially a full package when we already bought at least half of that package.

Strach.1572:

Ashen.2907:

How do you buy something that is free?

Reading this forum and threaddoesnt show that this is an issue, it shows that some people have issues. There is a difference.

I think U still believe that a fat guy dressed in red that screams HO! HO! HO! brings U presents if U think that there are free things in business.

Very true!

Reading this forum and threaddoesnt show that this is an issue, it shows that some people have issues. There is a difference.[/quote]

I wont lower myself by attempting to insult your intelligence or sanity as you just tried to do. This is a valid point if you agree or not has nothing to do with anyone having issues my friend. =-)

I will put it this way. If you buy the core game (which some of us did) then buy HoT the only thing you get for your money is HoT… If you never bought the core game but buy HoT you also get the core game which is an upgrade from the free version including the 5 character slots and bag slots etc. People who bought the core game 1st get treated like theyre getting a huge deal by getting 1 character slot added and thats it for the same price after already paying twice. Oh yeah the stupid outfit also.

If you bought the core and you buy hot at the same price as people who buy hot including core you just bought the game all over again[/quote]

Didn’t this argument burn out back in June? Guess not. Some people just have axes to grind.[/quote]

There is a difference between burning out and being swept under the rug. If you actually read the forum including this thread youll see that this is still very much an issue.

briggah.7910:

dane.4638:

Koteda.5238:

What does it mean that masteries are not for core game accounts?

It means that you cant use any of Anets new work unless you buy the game all over again…..

So what you are saying is if I buy 2 core version I get masteries? Hey i bought the game twice right?

If you bought the core and you buy hot at the same price as people who buy hot including core you just bought the game all over again

Koteda.5238:

What does it mean that masteries are not for core game accounts?

It means that you cant use any of Anets new work unless you buy the game all over again…..

DarkSouled.3854:

Dante.1763:

DarkSouled.3854:

AnClar.1304:

And so it begins…despite whatever measures Anet have put in place, yesterday alone I got two goldseller whispers. I don’t mind the f2p players who are on to see whether or not they want to invest in the full game, but if, as it appears, and as was predicted by the community, we now have to put up with a new epidemic of unwanted and annoying spam goldseller whispers it will make the GW2 experience that much less enjoyable.

Erm, everyone gets whisps from gold sellers. These wisps are from people who dont have free to play accounts, as one of the restrictions of free to play accounts is u cant whisper people unless that person is on ur friends list AND that person has reciprocated and added the so called ‘free player’ to their friends list also. basically if i was free to play and i wanted to whisper u i wudnt be able to unless we both added each other to our friends list…

may wanna check the f2p account restrictions before making assumptions.

Heres a handly link for u
https://help.guildwars2.com/entries/95982157-Account-types-Free-Core-HoT

Quite wrong. They can whisper anyone once every 30 seconds.

I did see that yes. But being able to whisper a new person every 30 second is hardly and efficient mode of action for gold sellers….

It is when they can make multiple free accounts at no cost

I dont actually care about ftp. I do want to make the point that gold sellers have other accounts also so what they will do is simply use free accounts to position bots in strategic places and spam people with advertisements. They will actually send the gold from their other accounts.

We are not asking for a handout. I think that 20-30 dollars for people who already own the core game would be reasonable. But charging what they are charging new players for the whole thing is absurd!

Jiggawattz.2697:

Is there a thread where I can express my overwhelming anger about the treatment of veteran players in this whole deal? If so please move this post to that thread.

I have played this game for 1100 days at this moment, not counting beta… this includes the pre-release and everything. I paid every penny for my game and I put money into the game. All of my own choice of course, but as a person who made the effort to support the game I cannot feel a little sour over the fact that I am paying 120 dollars to play HOT, when new players got refunds on their original game copy, and even newer players got the game outright free… Anet’s response to this was far worse than pathetic. No discount on HOT, no refund or even a gem bonus for loyalty rewards… we get some kitten kitten looking dinky “royal guard” skin that so far most of my guild has added to collection never to be touched again because it looks like something they had a high school intern design…

Before I get flooded with posts about entitlement and the value of 3 years of “free content” understand that while I may sound entitled, any one person would be a bit sour over the deal that is given to veteran players. We purchased the game… we supported it… we built this community and in a lot of ways this game… and we are rewarded for this effort and monetary and non-monetary support by them handing us a useless kittenty skin with one hand while reaching in our pockets AGAIN…

We tried out best not to complain over the ages, not when you stopped releasing content, or started charging for garbage content like living worlds… anet I am sure you know what kind of flop that was… but this is just in a lot of ways unprofessional. You are pandering to new players giving them the deal of the century, and rewarded your veterans, your loyalists, fans and supporters… by charging us full price a second time around. By the time HOT comes out I will have payed 140 dollars minimum for this game, not counting time investment and microtransactions… That is a bit much considering for 60 dollars I can get every piece of the game in its entirety…

The worst part is they sort of slapped us in the face with this. It would have been better if they gave us no compensation because then we could still be hoping they would reward us for our loyalty… but instead this… this royal guard skin… it is like the golden pen they give you when they force you to retire from a company… its like a very shiny kitten you that you will never use…

I guess I will put my tin foil hat on and hope that arena net is visited by the spirits of expansions past present and future…. so when it wakes up tomorrow it might find some semblance of respect for its active and loyal fan base… instead of milking us like cows in a stall because you know we stand to lose more in our time investment by quitting the game, even though we should in principle…

Anet, kitten your disingenuous business practices during this whole deal…

<End Rant>

I totally agree and my last 8 posts have been trying to say exactly that! I have no problem with ftp model for core. The restrictions are perfect. My problem is that I supported both gw1 and gw2 when they 1st came out and very few even cared about it (If they even knew of its existance) I bought 5 additional accounts for family members. Now you tell me that I have to pay for 6 totally new accounts to continue my experience! Screw you for screwing me and giving newcomers dinner and a massage! Of course I feel that I shouldnt have to pay for the core+Hot in order to continue my experience. Especially on 6 accounts! Especially since I cared for this game when they were not so popular and continued to support them over 10 years. No they dont owe me anything, but charging me more than someone who has never supported them just because they THINK I will be dumb enough or desperate enough to play the new content (Which in many cases we will be desperate enough) Thats just wrong and Anet is also not dumb so they already know that. Why would you do this anyway?

Dante.1763

So youre the one who got my real name before I could! ^^

I give up as people will continue to apply twisted conspiracy logic to whatever is said. I feel the way I do with good reason and thats all there is to it. =-)

I dont want anything for free I just dont want to pay twice as much for supportin the game from start!

the point is that people who already bought core shouldnt have to pay as much as people buying core and hot

SamuelV.7486:

dane.4638:

SamuelV.7486:

dane.4638:

I definately cant afford to upgrade all 6 accounts Ive bought for me and my family at this price so none of us get to play hot. Thanks a lot for valuing my support for your franchise over the last 10 years and the well over 1000 dollars Ive spent on your games, expansions and gems!

Yeah, but it’s like arguing when there is a steam sale going on and you bougth game on release lol…

Not the same. I have never seen steam sell someone the expansion for a game they bought from them and someone else the original and the expansion at the same time for the same price unless it was a special limited time offer. Anet is having this as the price period

Well, on steam you can buy a game + expantion for less then orignal price of the game witouth expantion when it came out…. Just look at Skyrim or borderland when it goes on sale…

And look at WoW. You dont have to pay for every expantion…

You just proved my point that you buy both the game AND expansion cheap. Not at the same price as just the expansion. Unless there is a special limited time sale

SamuelV.7486:

dane.4638:

I definately cant afford to upgrade all 6 accounts Ive bought for me and my family at this price so none of us get to play hot. Thanks a lot for valuing my support for your franchise over the last 10 years and the well over 1000 dollars Ive spent on your games, expansions and gems!

Yeah, but it’s like arguing when there is a steam sale going on and you bougth game on release lol…

Not the same. I have never seen steam sell someone the expansion for a game they bought from them and someone else the original and the expansion at the same time for the same price unless it was a special limited time offer. Anet is having this as the price period

I definately cant afford to upgrade all 6 accounts Ive bought for me and my family at this price so none of us get to play hot. Thanks a lot for valuing my support for your franchise over the last 10 years and the well over 1000 dollars Ive spent on your games, expansions and gems!

Aluna Darklady.3165:

dane.4638:

You cant say that you got your moneys worth for 3 years as I have been buying games a long time both console and pc. When I buy a game its for good. Heck some games I will go more than 3 years without playing and go back to them as theyre my games. I have replayed ff7 many times over the years and intend to be able to play it again if I so feel as Ive bought it.

But Dane, you still have this game, too. You still have GW2. You only have to pay if you want the new content.

So by that logic, are you also offended and upset when a game you paid $60 for XBox 360 drops down to $10 in the bargain bin 3 years later?

Not so. That was in response to the comment that 3 years was full moneys worth. I dont care how much others pay as long as i can still play

You cant say that you got your moneys worth for 3 years as I have been buying games a long time both console and pc. When I buy a game its for good. Heck some games I will go more than 3 years without playing and go back to them as theyre my games. I have replayed ff7 many times over the years and intend to be able to play it again if I so feel as Ive bought it.

Im not sorry I bought the core game as I have had much fun. Even bought it for my wife,sister and kids. But I have no intention of buying hot as it is very much overpriced for veteran players. Veterans should definately get it for a discounted price. (notice I did not say free) to all the people who try to twist up what people say and try to make them seem rediculous.

Rebuy the game every time an expansion comes out or this guy who just came onboard will have access to everything you have and more if he just buys it this time.

“I told you I would give you a stupid character slot now pay me at least 50 dollars like this guy I just gave all the stuff you already have for free paid!”

I dont think people have a problem with the ftp model. The problem is with people paying full price for just the expansion when others get the full game plus the expansion for the same price.

No further comments. Im not here to troll or argue. =-)

I wont push my point. I will just say that I dont feel they owe me anything but I still dont think people who have supported this game as I did should have to pay the same amount for the expansion as someone else who gets everything I paid for in the core game for free. Also I never said I have a problem with the ftp model, just the price of Hot for people who already bought the core game.

Heart of thorns isnt btp for people who bought the core 3 years ago. Its buy the rest to keep playing!

maddoctor.2738:

dane.4638:

After all that everything I paid for and worked for is just free to everyone else if they want it. My money (which I work for and dont have tons of) means nothing to Arenanet obviously and if I want to play the new content I have to pay the same amount as someone who never supported this franchise who get everything I have paid hundreds of dollars for. I have to pay this outrageous amount for each of my 6 accounts!

So the loads upon loads of releases you got for free mean nothing to you? You got up to 40 completely free content releases (based on when you bought the game) and you still complain?

I didnt complain about what I got in content. Im upset that I have the pay the same ammount as someone who just buys the expansion and get everything I paid for for included which amounts to a large sum where I come from. No worries though I guess my investment has just become basically a ftp account because I wont buy hot for 6 accounts at that price and doubt if Id even pay once the price drops as Id already be so far behind everyone Ive played with this long.

I could not be more offended by this! Me being someone who supported and purchased both GW1 and GW2 before launch and participated in both betas cant understand for the life of me why they would value me as a player and supporter so little.

I paid 70 dollars for my account and also bought 5 more accounts for my wife, kids and sister. I also spent hundreds of dollars in the gem store.

After all that everything I paid for and worked for is just free to everyone else if they want it. My money (which I work for and dont have tons of) means nothing to Arenanet obviously and if I want to play the new content I have to pay the same amount as someone who never supported this franchise who get everything I have paid hundreds of dollars for. I have to pay this outrageous amount for each of my 6 accounts!

Not only do I not have that kind of money to continue to invest in a game that values me so little as a customer in favor of new players who may or may not even stick with the game of help sell more copies or buy gems, but I wouldnt pay it if I did have at least 300 dollars just laying around!

Thank you for ruining the game that I am so highly invested in with time and money and saying to me “Just shut up and have a free character slot” which Ive already bought many of.

I have just lost 10 years of built up respect for this franchise! =-(

I just know that I will greatly miss Cyclenurse! I would love to see a memorial for our lost adventurers but even if I don’t I will keep her memory close to me.

Once again I must explain to those who look for ways to make rude replies to everything that I don’t have a problem with new players getting things, neither do I want their shiny stuff for myself (low level crafting materials) I want content for veteran players. Before anyone says that we get living story updates, I will preempt you by saying that I know this and enjoy it. What I have said time and again is that I would like veteran players to be more included in the feature pack releases. Also before anyone points out the wonderful things we got in the previous feature pack I will have you note that I have never complained about that. I cant for the life of me figure out why you guys are making my post out to be an assault on Anet just so that you can make insulting remarks about it.
The above doesn’t matter however as Im sure Anet will be mature enough to not childishly look for ways to find it offensive or confrontational.

In response to Bloodstealers post, You can look it up yourself though I must admit that I did inaccurately say the Chinese players got “automatic” precursers. I read in several places that the Chinese VIP members get a precursor box at level 20. I haven’t seen this posted by Anet themselves so it could very well be inaccurate. Also I never said that I was an MMO surfer so what you said about me going to EQN until the next MMO was inaccurate.

To answer your little trivia question UBISoft came along for GW2 and NCsoft was the GW1 publisher.

Those 2 things out of the way, I will say that no matter how much you rofl that doesn’t nullify my points. Also I used Everquest as an example which some people obviously cant not take literally. I have every intention of playing GW2 for a long time but my point was that Anet should not only (as I never said leave out the new players) cater to new players.
I guess I have managed to spark another forum fire as some people are too immature to accept constructive criticism. You must have missed the part where I said Ive been a fan for years and Anet has released some amazing patches for the game. Never once did you see me say that I was leaving or that I didn’t support Arenanet anymore.
How can you say that I seem to forget that for them its a business when I clearly said that they not only need to get new players but also keep the old ones as we still support the game financially through gem purchases.

I have learned to very rarely comment on these things as youll almost always be viewed as “The bad guy”. Anyway, heres my go at this one.
ArenaNet, You have utterly disappointed me this time! I have supported and endorsed your game since Beta of GW1. I am disappointed in the fact that you have found it acceptable to do nothing for your long time veterans and focus purely on the concept of enticing other individuals to spent the initial $30 to buy the game anew. I have also purchased this game for 5 other loved ones. Therefore I have bought a total of 6 game accounts to have others enjoy it with me therefore enriching my experience.

I personally on my account and my fiance’s has spent over $1500.00 gems and all we get after this long 3 week absence of new content is stuff for new players that you’ve already had the resources for as it was released on the Chinese client during release. We also got colors for our commander tags (which required very little coding or thought on your account). You also announced Multiple pvp and wvw perks. Earlier this year when you took this amount of time off for this reason (Feature pack content). You at least came up with some amazing changes. I am not here to rant, but I as a player have noticed that you have become more business oriented than fan oriented. Maybe this is due to UBISofts grip on you but loosing long time fans in the name of business is a loosing battle as you can see by comparing the amount spent by fans who just may leave due to this change of direction, and new players. New players may or may not like your game enough to stick around.
I am not trying to yell at you or disrespect you, but the money that 1 loyal player who likes your game will spend is worth at least 30 new players (and that’s just a rough calculation based on 3 per 100). I have never had a precursor drop but you gave them to people on the Chinese servers automatically.
I can prove all of this by telling you to look at my account and seeing how much I’ve spent.
Maybe Ill continue to play for now (until Everquest Next comes out) or maybe you have a loyal fan who loves the world of Tyria and its content, who will continue to support your game as long as it doesn’t reject them. =-)