Guild Wars 2

Dondarrion.2748:

Pre: 9 – Everything was nice, achievements and progression took real effort
Post: 0 – A big fat zero! If you take out this progression decision, it’d still be at 9.

It’s been kittening 5 days and the whining, entitled casual player base has kittened their way to get everything unlocked in a whiff.

I’m just saying now, this was the release of an expansion, it’s probably going to be many months before we see new updates so don’t come complaining on the forums when there’s nothing new to work towards in terms of character progression.

ArenaNet, you caved on this iterative decision – complete bs…

Don’t get me wrong, the expansion itself is great, just you shouldn’t cave to a vocal minority about making progression goals so easily achieveable… where’s your long-term perspective???

I don’t understand this rants. This change will not remove the challenges, so if you want, you can do all the bs hero challenges with all of your alts. So what’s the point?

No, no and no. It’s not bad, but i was hoping that after 2 year Anet has some more interesting things “not off the table”. Btw today is the destiny day, so who cares?

Mark Katzbach.9084:

Just to clarify, the Skill Bar segment is a pre-recorded balance preview, much like the previews that used to be posted on the forums. Each segment will cover 2 professions and Karl will talk about the changes as they are demonstrated. We decided to pre-record these segments because it allows us to cut down each profession from over 15 minutes to about 5 and it allows us to show off the changes without making you wait for Karl to make build changes on the fly.

For your feedback, please feel free to open a new thread (for each profession previewed) in the profession balance subforum after the preview and I’ll make sure the balance team knows where to find it.

So 5 minutes to every class, 2 class every ready up, 1 ready up every 2 weeks. Uhm we will see the end in 2 months? Seriously? Another 2 months to see a couple of tweaks and a big amount of tooltip editing? Lol, i hope this time we will see some big changes (new skill, new traits, new weapons).
But i’m sure this will remains only hopes.

CureForLiving.5360:

darkvise.3197:

cheshirefox.7026:

well my guildies and i asked for a pet pony therefore arena net must deliver

Your comment is useful as a "miner helmet powered by solar energy ".
Thanks for your trolling

It’s actually just hyperbole not trolling (might be a straw man though), by taking the original argument to an absurd level the hope is to show short comings or issues with the original argument. Basically what he’s saying is that just because you want stuff doesn’t mean ANet has spend their time making the stuff you want.

Wow, this place is full of trolls
Your argument won’t work because this is not what i want, but what they want (anet). Or what they have said to want.
Go here http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Upcoming_changes_and_features#References,
read all the interview, come back and ask sorry, maybe i will forgive you .
I have only made some questions, i hope someone in the high of the sky will answer me. Nothing more. But please proceed to distort my post.

locoman.1974:

More maps and a way to make new content becoming permanent were requested a LOT on forums, we got (or started to get) those two on this release.
Remember one thing, we’re not getting an expansion where a big bunch of content and features are added to the game at once, we’re getting small periodic aditions to the game both in content and features, for better or worse it’s the direction Anet decided to take the game into, we just got chapter 1 of a year long season so we can expect to get more content and features down the road.
Which direction (lots of content and features in one release followed by a long time of nothing new added Vs. small amount of content and features released periodically over a long time) is better, it’s up to each person to decide for themselves.

I like the game, i play the game often, but i stop putting money in the gem store for reasons related to my questions.
If they put out a expansion i will buy it, if they put out this features via living story i will restart using the gem store, but i will not spend more money for a product that on my eye is the same as the release date.
With this model and no information on the future is like buy blindly, and if you compare what they have released to other major mmorpg they have released half of an expansion.

revodeel.2651:

P.S. Please don’t try to speak for everyone. I enjoyed the jumping mechanics in this chapter of the living world and so did many other players I’ve talked to. But I do agree, I also want more dungeons.

I have edited the p.s. so is refering to me

LeoWolfish.8917:

Yargesh.4965:

darkvise.3197:

cheshirefox.7026:

well my guildies and i asked for a pet pony therefore arena net must deliver

Your comment is useful as a "miner helmet powered by solar energy ".
Thanks for your trolling

Confirmed! Solar powered helms for ponies !

LOL that would be an interesting mob to see on April fools day or something.

At least something good is came out of this thread

cheshirefox.7026:

well my guildies and i asked for a pet pony therefore arena net must deliver

Your comment is useful as a "miner helmet powered by solar energy ".
Thanks for your trolling

i know that no one has promised nothing, i have only said that many player are asking for those features

Where are the new features? Where are the new skills? New weapons? the third heavy armor class? Judging from the posts on this forum this features are continuously requested and no one are listen. And the worst thing is that no one of the developers are saying nothing. The only thing we might assume is that we will never see this things implemented. Can we have some official statement? Can i hope for some change?

p.s. And on the new living story, i have buyed GW2 no SUPER MARIO BROS! More dungeon less jumping.

Lexy.3912:

I think it was mentioned in other articles around the release fo the last feature pack but this is the first one I found – it’s mentioned in the last paragraph.

“We’re probably going to continue with that approach, because so far we’ve been very happy with it,” says Cartwright. "We’ll continue to monitor how well that’s received, how well that works, and if splitting those up was a good thing or not. I think as we move forward that’s our plan, is to continue along that pattern of “here’s content; here’s a bunch of new quality of life features”, and keep that oscillating pattern going. As always, we’ll change our pattern if we don’t feel like it’s going right, but that’s our current thoughts at the moment.”

He talks about qol features, and is so vague that can be summarized with: “somewhere, someone, somehow, something”.

But ok, if this is all we have. My money will be safe for another 4 months or more.

The source for your statements is? Just random comment based on your speculation and old releases, or a interview with some dev? If it is from a interview can you post the link plz?

It’s not sarcasm i’m serious.

How many chance we have for some great game changer features on the next patch?
Is this only a story patch or will contain some new way to play this game? Like new skill, new weapons, new traits, new classes?

I’m bored, Anet give me some new reasons to give you my money….

GoogleBrandon.5073:

See the picture… Though I am probably the only one within this game, you asked the wrong person…

Also, I am gonna pull the plug from this “debate” since we are only just repeating our sentiments and can never reach an aggreement… Not only that, but you ignored my every point and just said “Gold is gewd”…
Whisper me ingame if you ever want my “fortune” of gold, because I am happy to trade it for something that incentifices me to play PvP in terms of rewards…

All of these forum are speaking about pvp rewards. What kind of rewards will be right for a tpvp match? a Specific sets only for tpvp? A yellow? A Specific skin? A exotic? A Precursor?

I don’t know what people think, this game is all about green, blue and skin obtained with gold or gems, why pvp should be different? The tracks are enough as rewards.
The problems of the pvp are other, ballance in first place and more game modes at second place, rewards probably are the last.

But you are right, we can never reach an agreement.

See you in game, maybe

GoogleBrandon.5073:

Are you for real?

Gold does nothing for people who play PvP – it is an incentive for PvE players to go and play PvP, so that they feel “rewarded”… When people from a competitve scene ask for “rewards” they mean something that feels rewarding in that competitive scene! Gold can be obtained everywhere and can nowhere be near to be a sattisfying reward…

Now gold are all you need Simply a change of the system, with gold you can buy traits and arenas.

GoogleBrandon.5073:

Transmutation charges are a global change, and for PvE I am happy with it… However, they ripped the “Free” system of changing your looks (which represented how well you did mind you) right out of every PvP-ers hands… They have to work for it, not much of an issue, but certainly not a change that everyone liked much…

Please tell me how many time a week you usually change the skins of your armor? Now is fast a easy and you not to manage a infinite amount of the same skin……

Probably only a very very very very small amount of people will feel this change negatively.

GoogleBrandon.5073:

And you are honestly oblivious about traits… Rerolling is an absolute pain because of the new traits… I more than often lacked the skillpoints a little while ago to give all my alts the traits I wanted and needed, and what is worse, each time I make a new character I have to do it again!
New players who enter PvP and do not have money/skillpoints have it even worse… Sure, you can have a build without that new shiny trait, but it is against the philosophy both this and the previous game offered… Unlocks for competitive play are wrong – no matter in what way they are obtainable…

Rerolling? For? in 1 year of gold achieved from the pvp fights you have not enough gold to buy 3 character slot? please don’t offend my intelligence.

GoogleBrandon.5073:

Also, no, you cannot obtain the same skins, as some where PvP exclusive… To make it worse, the outfits within PvP used to have meaning to them – which has been made completely redundant to the fact that everyone is now running around like a morron with their legendaries (Yes I do have one before you ask)

How many? 3 total sets? Sorry 3 ugly sets? Probably i don’t miss them. The other sets are all in.

GoogleBrandon.5073:

I do not share the sentiment of the rest of the post, but you are honestly debating against a waterfall here… There was more wrong than right for the PvP scene… Those who truly enjoyed it have nothing to work for…

“Yippee, we are a top team and destroy every team 500-5 – now I get blues and greens like everyone else! So rewarding…”

Yes, aNet turn back to the old rewarding system. I have 250000000 Pvp Salvage kit that need to be used! And the material that i obtain may be used to craft, uhm, let me think, nothing……

Blue and green ftw!!! At lest are gold and i can manage to spend how i need.

Lukin.4061:

You cant be serious, can you? There is no way a person is so oblivious that to call “Feature patch” a spvp patch.
Anet removed everything that was given as a reward from pvp players and instead gave pve junk that has no use.

False, you can obtain gold from the junks.

Anet removed free skin swaps and gave nothing in return.

False, you obtain the same skins from tracks, and then also the transmutation charges.

Anet removed the core idea of “everyone is equal in pvp” by adding new traits.

False, you can buy them with gold and skill point. And you can obtain both by playing pvp.

Anet removed 1 map, gave 1 map that can only be played for $

False, the map is buyable with gold, obtained as previously stated

Anet gave a reward system that is as crappy as previous one.

Not wrong, i like it, you don’t. Matter of opinion

How is that a pvp patch, and not a patch aimed towards pve crowd that also wants the crumbs of uniqueness that pvp players had?

So, 4 on 5. kitten misinformation…..

There’s nothing to understand and no hidden pattern. There is only a stagnant and boring game . In addition, there is no hope that things will change, ANet will release only small things, nothing worth as an expansion. So let’s face it.
I continue to do pvp, as long as I do not get tired or will not come out a better game.

Meryn.6875:

Mitch.4781:

Don’t you think something BIG is coming? Maybe it isn’t just simple LS 2..but much bigger than that..like opening up a lot of permanent areas…introduction of Tengu..maybe a new class….Something is bubbling under…….Could just be my gas..But I suspect….something good

Nope. This game actually IS progressing this bad/slowly. If you whish for a game with more development or content being added, play something else. This truly is the worst progressing game i’ve been playing so far tbh.

You are right, see at the PvP situation, is from the beta that people ask for more game modes, and after 2 year nothing…… How on earth is so difficult to copy some game mode and paste it on some new maps?

And the characters situation? 1 new healing skill and 5 not so useful traits. It’s a shame that in 2 year i have paid more than an expansion in gems, and receive less than every other named mmo, but i’m sure it is my fault.

The real problem is the lack of game changer features/content.

PvE: new dungeons, new maps, housing and so on
PvP: new GAME MODES

All the game: new skills, new class, new weapons, GREAT bug fix and BALLANCE.

This is the same game that i have bought 2 years ago, with a new WvW map and the fractals. No new other game changer at all. Don’t misunderstand me, the game is nice, but the fun is diminishing. I need some fresh air, some new thing to do, this new feature patch was nothing so great: 5 new useless traits and a little change to runes and sigils (old things).

Is in the human nature the need of new things to do don’t let the players search it in a new game.

“Art of war” as title was promising. But none a mention to new skills? really? So, we have waited for so long time and no new skills? Only a healing skill since release?
Shame….

i can’t wait to report all the verbal abuse

I think we will see the “big feature patch” after may 16, the end of wvw season.
The last time they have done so, for “avoiding to change the balance during the season” if i remeber correctly.

darkvise.3197:

The main question is: Can we have any preview of what will be inside this big project before others games will be available?

I already know the answer, is no. And when it will be ready, the customers conclusions will be: “too little, too late”.

The main question is: Can we have any preview of what will be inside this big project before others games will be available?

1. Ranger
2. Mesmer
3. Engineer.

Same here with entire set :S

The trasmutation to white => using esctractor still working?

darkvise.3197:

Yuppie
Silk 1.75 ( 1.80 2 minutes ago)
Gossamer 2.43

This market is so healthy, and please speculators and unreasonable people keep saying that it’s okay
Thanks to all and happy Wintersdays

Yuppie again
Silk 2s
Gossamer 2s

Again, this market is so healthy, and please speculators and unreasonable people keep saying that it’s okay

Thanks to all, and happy new year
aahahhaha

Yuppie
Silk 1.75 ( 1.80 2 minutes ago)
Gossamer 2.43

This market is so healthy, and please speculators and unreasonable people keep saying that it’s okay
Thanks to all and happy Wintersdays

Lord Kuru.3685:

The solution to the OP’s problem is to champ farm and then buy the silk from the TP. That’s pretty much how Anet’s design encourages you to play.

It is not a question of money, I have more than 700 gold (not many, but enough) and 15 days of autonomy of silk, I think I can directly buy the silk necessary to get me across the set even now, it’s just a matter of correctness by part of Anet, I wish I could gather the material needed to make me one piece ascended a day in the same time of the other ascended materials! It’s fairness, at this point I would like to hear from Anet the motivation of this bad choice.

Chobiko.9182:

A. ANet does not dictate prices on the TP it’s player demand / supply.

bla bla bla bla

Lol, lol, lol Are you serious? Or are you trolling me?

They have chosen to put the recipe with the amount of materials required, they decide the amount of drop in the world. They have the rules of the game and can control both the demand and the supply, indirectly of course, but they did it. An example? do you think it would go up so high the price of silk if they had kept in line with the other materials the amount requested? Request halved, duplicate supply, the price is halved

Tell me great economist, are you trolling me or you have a so limited vision of things?
Or you have purchased a big amount of silk and you are scared to lose all your profits?

JJBigs.8456:

I see your math, I see your statement, but I dont see the problem even if silk hit 3s per scrap. So its alot of money…yea, imo that was the point?

3s for a silk scrap? More than the gossamer scrap?
You’re really saying that it would be a good design choice making a t5 material worth more than a t6?
I think, and probably i’m wrong, that 50 bolts of silk would be enough.

Collect 50 Mithril ingots takes me usually 20 mins of gather (in Additions to the salvaged that i collect playing normally).
Same as above for the wood logs.
To collect 300 silk scraps, how many hour of playing are required? (without the TP).

This is the real problem! And this is the reason why the price is skyrocketing!
All this cost difference (for the ascended piece) is completely useless!

After the silk will come to 2s per piece or before?
Anet will decide to maintain this unfair price difference between the ascendant pieces?
Anet will decide to maintain this unfair time difference between the various ascendant armor?

Just a couple of numbers of the current situation:

Silk scrap 79 c required 300 = 2 g 37s
Mithril ore 30 c required 100 = 30s
Thick Leather Section 8 c required 150 = 12s

p.s. : Plz, don’t say us that this was not predictable

As long as your idea of progression are 43 stacks of silk scraps to make a single armor there will always be problems.
I’m already a foretaste of the time when they put out the next level of equipment, " you need 70000000 useless pieces of material to make the piece to be refined , but unfortunately , as some players have already prepared the materials , we decided to punish all putting all time gates ( 1 piece per month per account) .

What I do not understand is : given that the manifesto had said no vertical progression and that many people are gone because you placed it , why we are still here to talk about? To be clear horizontal progression that you have put ? 2 skill in character in a year? 3 fractals ? You do not even try to implement the horizontal progression with which you have attracted many customers.

A tired customer .

P.S. We could talk to the genius who decided to use bolt 100 for a single piece of silk damask ?

Kitten

Thanks

Is time gate on ascendant materials account bound or character bound?

The question is simple can i craft 3 bolt of damask at day or only one?

Tnx

If in the loot table you have 1 chance on 1.000.000.000 to get a precursor, with magic find 120% you will have 2,2 chance on 1.000.000.000.

2 time a insignificant chance

Discussions with no sense

But to stay on topic, for now I have not seen any horizontal progression in a year and a half (only 1 new skill is a joke), so for now they not only have lied saying that the vertical progression would not be there, but they lied also saying that there would be a horizontal progression!

And Anet continues to remain silent …

IceBlink.4317:

Still bugged for me, it was never awarded.

Same here stille bugged!

No official response? I will retake this message up in 2 weeks. Hoping that in the meantime we are given confirmation or denial to the promises made four months ago.

In referencing to this link https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/looking-ahead-guild-wars-2-in-2013/

We have 4 slot for releases by the end of the year and still missing:

- There will be new unlockable skills and traits.
- Ascended armor will become available from rare drops and from crafting.
Some precursors will be obtainable through crafting using a complex assortment of items. (Probably around Christmas time)
Crafting
- The maximum level of the remaining crafting disciplines will be increased to 500.
- sPvP New map types.
- It will be possible to gain legendary weapon skins in sPvP.
- Additional rewards and growth will be added to the major competitive sPvP tournaments.
- new fractal and old living world dungeons taken as new fractals.

I suspect that not only the precursors will be moved to the next year….
An official answer about this?

Starting from this post
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/looking-ahead-guild-wars-2-in-2013/

Even in this release will not see the ascendant armor, then it means that will be postponed. Therefore also the release date of the “New Skills and Traits” will be postponed? Together with the new types of weapons or any other type of progression?

The horizontal progression will suffer the same fate as the precursors? (ie, not in 2013, postponed to a later date)

Sorry for my poor English, it is not my native language.

Aberrant.6749:

No they shouldn’t be unbound. If you want it, put in the time and work for the highest tier of gear. This game needed another sink.

Why? because you have done it and you will feel yourself superior to other players?
No is a question of expand a dead branch of the game, after you have finish your weapons what is the sense of this 100 level of crafting? No one is the answer. And the sense of dragonite ore, bloodstone dust and emphyreals? No one even here.
In conclusion, is a nice system, with a very limited use, is like a race car with a very small fuel capacity

For me is not a question of envy, i have crafted ascendant scepter and focus for my mesmer, and ready for the third weapon, which i don’t need, because i have twilight as main weapon.

Which is the more viable way to obtain the molten shortbow? Because i see it need 7 Black Lion Claim Ticket O_O .

Yes, fully agree. At this time the crafting from 400 to 500 has no MMO component neither Guild component is only an end in itself.
Maybe a dead content.

If the weapons will be tradable…maybe…

Any news about this blocking issue? No official answer? I was unable to play last night (CET 21 – 23).

For more specification this is the first time i have lag an DC problems since september. Something wrong with this patch…..