Guild Wars 2

Shriketalon.1937:

Turn Orr into a WvW warzone, players versus the undead horde. Make us fight for defined objectives in a proactive manner, allowing players to lead the fight rather than wait around for events to spawn. Use destructible terrain and spontaneous capture/control events to make Orr an all out Server Versus Dragonspawn war. Get rid of distractions such as mob tagging and let players focus on achieving victory together, and Orr will be a continent upon which legends are forged.

I started an alt awhile back and was running through orr again for the first time in a month or two. I forgot how horribly obnoxious that place was. If orr was something like described here, I’d be PVE’ing there quite a bit! As of now, it’s just so much more fun (and less annoying) to do PVE stuff elsewhere, which is a bit sad to say…

Yeah, this change has me playing my thief in WvW now. I don’t follow their logic on this one at all.

Overlooked in much of this was Devona’s large point score. I could be mistaken, but I think it might have been their highest point score to date? At either rate, you guys put up a heck of a fight, and part of the reason why there was a new “winner” this bracket was because Fergs finally had two active teams to fight against.

Looking forward to another week! I’m sure Fergs will (and from what i’ve seen last night, has) come out fired up and looking for some revenge!

As someone who has been on Kaineng since the early days, I have to say that it saddens me a bit to see a post like this.

Firstly, it’s disrespectful. Secondly, this video was posted with almost 1 full day left and the match is still far from over. Have a little respect for the folks who are out there still battling to solidify the win, and who are trying to still get the win for Fergs.

Additionally, any “Kaineng” win has been taken out of context. Every other server has been in this position before (e.g., they’ve won before), and it’s nothing to gloat about on the forums. If Kaineng does win, it’ll be a proud moment for the server – NOT for any of the other 23 servers. If Kaineng wins, I’ll be there in Lion’s Arch quietly celebrating with my server, but you won’t see me posting all about it on the forums.

If you want to talk about the “champions” of the match, I’d talk about the folks who are out there fighting when they’ve been mathematically eliminated. (RED) from Devona’s Reach was out there battling hard last night even when their server didn’t have a chance to come in first place. Folks like them have earned my respect.

I would assume any server that floats around in the bottom tier.

Rationale: I would expect fair-weatehred PvPers to flock to the winning, and higher-tiered servers, not the lower ones. The ones who play (and more importantly stay) on the lower tiers are more likely to PvP because it’s fun and are less likely to quit whenever one server builds an unsurmountable lead.

Zahdane.4029:

I do like how he mentioned overpowered Engineers too.
I think that’s the first time we’ve been accused of that. flex

I thought I was the only one who caught that! This is definitely the first I’ve ever read someone state that engineers were OP. Must be some rare engineer build that I’m not aware of yet

SniffyCube.6107:

also… side note :
never had anything really “against” you or your guild…

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/A-different-kind-of-Kaineng-War-Report/first#post335672

“I was going to say the opposite, every pvp instance we did SoS has run out or refused to help.”

“The feeling around most of kaineg is we wish they would just leave along with some of the other guilds and let us truly start fresh with committed guilds.”

Likewise, there are a few chats in game about you wanting to leave Kaineng to DR just so you can fight SoS.

SniffyCube.6107:

but you seem to take us moving so personally

I don’t think anyone really cares that you left and I doubt that anyone is taking the move as a personal slight. Some of us just find it odd (and slightly amusing) that you make posts like this:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Challenge-to-all-Kaineg-players-and-guilds

and then trash the guilds that are participating in WvW, and then simply decide to leave to another server. It sounds like you’re in a better place, and I’m happy for you. People play games for different reasons, and it sounds like you’re having more fun over at DR, which is a great thing.

Likewise, Kaineng is now in a better place too. There are no more egos, folks are working together, and we’re building some server pride.

@iii: SoS has been on Kaineng for awhile now. Also, it was one guy who said he didn’t like SoS, and he (thankfully) left the server. That one guy does NOT speak for the server.

On the contrary, SoS is fantastic group of individuals. They’re really nice people. Back in the “dark days” I used to tag along with them whenever I was online rather early. They were one of the few guilds (along with LaZy, Nuke, and a few others) that were WvW’ing on Kaineng back before it was apparently the “cool” thing to do! I honestly have no idea why anyone would dislike them.

As much as I’d like for Kaineng to finish first this week, i think the point differential between Ferg and Kain is too much to overcome.

I’d say that there would be a better chance next week; however, it is my understanding that RMA is transfering off the server this weekend. If they were to leave, it would be a pretty big hit to the prime time EST population. Who knows though – I thought that the server was going to nosedive after LaZy left, and it didn’t. Maybe another guild will transfer over to offset the loss here too. Or more optimisticly, perhaps RMA will stick around. I promise a lifetime supply of acai if you do!!*

*promise can only be fulfilled if Anet adds acai berries and an acai, banana, and granola recipe into the game.

TheFug.5278:

Larger maps is what made DAOC bad.

You would have to get together a group and run for 15 minutes through all of the giant, unused RvR terrain just to finally get to the “main fight” and get steamrolled by a 100 man zerg and have to reform and do it all over again.

Yep, I remember that quite well, and it would not be as much fun if that were to be brought to GW2.

I find mesmers to be more annoying than thieves. Thieves don’t really bother me too much.

I like 1 week matches, and once (or if) things balance out, would like 2 week matches as well. I don’t see much of a point in discussing this until free server transfers end though.

Cimmric.7623:

The below screenie was take on 10/11/2012 @ 11:00 CST. It has been way too long for an update for those of us at work and want to know how the dayshift is doing..

If I’m not mistaken, this is the first time Kaineng has hit the 100k mark in a match!

Kardiamond.6952:

It’s a war, everything happens, you can’t control everyone.

This is what I was getting at. Just like DR can’t stop the karma train that runs through all of the supply depots in Kaineng every night, other servers have limited power to prevent the unguilded PUGs from running around and taking points that have no strategic significance. Listen, Kaineng and DR are medium pop servers (well, at least Kaineng is – take out the thousands of bots and its probably a low pop server). Most of the folks joining the server don’t have any friends who play the game, which makes things even more challenging to organize. It’s not like HoD, or ET where > 80% are in the same guild or alliance. Most of the folks run around in 1-2 person guilds and have NO interest in joining an alliance or bigger guild – they just want the pew pew.

Are the two of you sick of logging in to see that you have zero supply depots and one keep?

I don’t really care. I can only control what occurs when I’m online. When I’m online and my guild is taking and holding what we want, that’s a victory for me. I suppose I’m in the minority in saying that I can care less what the total score is.

I’ll tell you what. I will keep trying. ?

If you are serious and are part of a bigger DR guild, I would advise you to get in touch with some of the bigger Kaineng guilds and forming a “truce” at the guild level. As mentioned though, this will do little to alleviate the aforementioned issues.

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Don’t waste your time with him Fubuki. He reminds me of Khadaffy Janjalani — He wins a few battles in areas that are not capable of putting up much resistance, and then all of the sudden thinks he is a great tactician who feels the need to pass his sound military advice and guidance to others.

The only time I’ve seen an organized Kaineng guild go into Devona’s borderlands to target them, is when Devona’s Rest goes out of their way to annoy Kaineng (e.g., after 1-2 hours of the 20 man Devona PUG train running through Kaineng borderlands flipping all of the supply camps).

I know the Kaineng PUGs usually stick to Kaineng as well, so I’m not sure which battlegrounds you’re referring to (I never see DR in EB, and rarely see them on the green side). My question to you is – in what borderlands are you talking about? I’m hoping you don’t mean “Why does Kaineng always target us whenever we run around in their borderlands?” If so, that should be self-explanatory. If you’re referring to your own borderlands, then it’s probably because your PUGs (or maybe a couple of mentally dull guilds) are doing dumb stuff in Kaineng’s backyard.

I too figured I’d jump in and say thanks to Fubuki for his hard word. I’d also like to thank LaZy, Nuke, RAWR, Oni, AI, WAR, as well as the other bigger guilds that I’m forgetting, for their leadership over the last few weeks. We’ve been getting a lot of onesy-twosy transfers as of late, and without their strong leadership, most would probably be running around like a chicken without its head!

I’d also like to say that our various forms of meatgrinders and guerilla warfare tactics have (and this is going to sound bizarre saying this) made me always want to play on a smaller, outnumbered server.

In the betas, it seemed I was always on a server that had 95% of the map and we’d always be running around trying to figure out where the other guys were going to strike next. Since they struck fast and then moved on, it was always difficult to get there in time to get any kills. The way it is now, Kaineng is pretty much deciding where, when, and for how long we want to fight. As a result, it seems as though I’m constantly in a battle (as opposed to running around and looking for one), and the karma, badges, and kills are raining from the sky. I see people complaining about getting 10 badges a night and it makes me laugh because it is not unusual for me to get that in a short 10 minute meatgrinder session.

You other servers can have your silly keeps and castles! I’d rather have my outmanned buff, no queues, the ability to dictate where the battle occurs, and the hundreds of badges and thousands of karma that constantly rain down from above!

Fubuki.7162:

There are TWO lesser-known facts that make Kaineng the best server in North America.

1) Kaineng is one of only two servers to have never gone backwards in their rankings in North America.

2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcUUAdthbeI

My name is Fubuki, and I approve this ad.

Brought to you by the Kaineng Preservation Society.

LOL – this was really awesome. I love Kaineng!

kyla.8524:

This being said PvP is not the only problem on Kaineng, PvE suffers as well. A lot of times I have to transfer to a higher pop world just to get access to dungeons because of not having enough people in cursed shores and higher level areas in order to clear the prerequisite events.
If you are interested in helping present a united front for Kaineng I ask politely that you join http://www.kainengunited.com/ so we can work together in a more efficient manner.

Yeah, PVE in Kaineng is interesting, and quite challenging as well. I was on a high pop server before this server opened and there were zergs everywhere which made PVE somewhat easy. Running around in Orr on the Kaineng server is quite the challenge though. When I log on, every point is contested… and when I end up logging off at night, every point seems to be contested again. At times it can be frustrating, but its somewhat fun. I hate to diverge from the WvW topic… but i can’t help but add that there. The WvW repair cost has had be playing around in PVE until things normalize a bit… the constant 5v30 fights we seemed to always face haven’t been fun as of late

The population in Kaineng is getting slightly better. For instance, I saw 4 people running around in WvW yesterday morning. Sadly, after 3-4 days, those 4 people will probably transfer over to a top tier server.

Fubuki has a lot of good suggestions. I might want to emphasize, in addition to giving folks incentive to transfer to Kaineng, I would recommend that ANet give us an incentive to STAY on this server. It’s a constant struggle to find reasons as to why we’re staying on Kaineng. I never want to spend cash for upgrading something we just took because we know that even with upgrades, 2v40 is a battle we can’t win. That, plus the cost for armor damages we face every time we decide we want to take something makes this whole situation rather frustrating.

Suggestions: give us discounts on siege equipment, give us some type of break of armor repairs, and maybe do something like giving the outmanned puff perma stacks of might and some other stuff or something….

Strife.8957:

Honestly, I think every day about moving servers because I simply can’t make progress in WvW on Kaineng.

Ditto

Raptor.9863:

This would hurt smaller servers. We will lose even more players than we already have if more slots are opened for WvW. You will get more transfers then be back at square one.

Exactly – our server (Kaineng) can’t even fill the maps that are currently there. Adding an additional server makes things even worse for some of us. If every single server was facing 6-hour queues, then this might be a good idea, but they’re not…

Our guild packed up shop from one of the top-tier servers a few days after Kaineng opened. Losing the guild influence was kind of crappy, but we made it back rather quickly.

As an aside though, it’s becoming quite difficult to stay on this server and WvW. We’re constantly outnumbered and because of this, we have to deal with more equipment repairs than winning servers. I’m likely going to stick it out with Kaineng, but in all honesty, what’s the incentive to even stay? Part of me wants to just switch to one of the higher tiered servers, and sit in the 6 hour-long queues. At least I can do map completion on there… shrugs