Guild Wars 2

All i do on this game is WvW and I can tell you I’m starting to look for another game (i’m downloading a new one as we speak). The state of WvW is at an all time low. With this new ranking system putting T8 servers against T5 servers. Hacks/cheats running rampent, zerg balls everywhere i’m surprised there are still this many players (I think its because there are no good games ATM to play).

As it stands right now there are 1, maybe 2 builds on classes that if you want to compete you will need to run those builds. There is no real options for builds in WvW they have piggonholed classes into certain builds and yes Zerg is the way of the herd.

So being in Ferguson’s Crossing tier 8 we are not only fighting a tier 5 server Darkhaven and a tier 6 server Isle of Janthir we also have to deal with the cheats. DH i guess has been called out many times for this “zoomhack” (i’m sure nothing will come of it) which 5 of us FC got to enjoy with there late zerg on us.

At this point this game is pretty much lost. As soon as any half decent game comes out you will see half of these people quit this game. Not only are the hacks/cheats ruining the game but the server matchups are as well. Here is a screenshot of them hitting our siege inside the tower while not being in the tower yet. There is a MMO coming out next month which you will have to pay monthly but i’m getting so sick of these that I will probably go buy it just to play something else. It saddens me that a very good looking game like GW2 can’t get it right and I don’t think they ever will.

The issue I think is that Anet just thinks people are just complaining and thakittens not a real issue because they are not making money off that part of the game anyway. One of the sad realities of a free to play MMO like GW2 is they are only concerned with what will make them money not what won’t. However, what they fail to realize is if they make a great balanced, hack free WvW game experience that is fun you would see a large increase of players. These would bring in not only WvW players but PvE players as well and still make them more money than what they are making now.

There is a game that has been out for a very very long time and is still doing better than GW2 and its a paid game (i’m sure you can figure out which game). Is it a better looking game? Not even close. Is it cheaper? No you have to pay each month. Then what makes the people stay and not come to GW2? They got it right (not for everyone but most of the masses).

HippoLogic.2519:

Lol again we faced higher tier severs they never cried zoom hack just quit it already.

Is that what they do at the higher level tiers take out siege inside without being inside? Good for you i’m glad you can laugh about beating a T8 server with those type of tatics or any server for that matter.

never heard of this “zoomlock” until I met Darkhaven. Are you guys that bent on beating a T8 server that you have to use this “zoomlock” to take out our siege inside? Because we kept beating you over and over when you tried to take our keep that you just gave up trying to be honest and take it by taking out our siege cheating? Wow so sad it shows your character of who you really are. Not only that, you see how many of us are defending with your orange swords a whole what, 4 of us? I don’t understand why people feel the need to cheat on a game whats the point. You get beat one to many times trying to play normal? Why don’t you just find some “godmode” or something and just 1 hit everyone.

So you guys really need to bring people into our TS even though you are that much higher in rank than us? Wow real classy……

Hule.8794:

I think we just need to adjust RNG.
Current RNG is bad. Really bad. In NA not so bad like in EU. In EU there are fights between servers with 9 ranks difference.

We are close I’m in FC ranked 22 fighting IOJ 18 and DH 15 not fun. FC always seems to fight the higher level guys. On top of that GoM has seemed to stay at the bottom 2 tiers almost every week and they are ranked 16 fighting ET 24 and SF 21. Would be nice to fight 24, 23 and 22 for at least 1 week but i have never seen it yet after this new ranking its like they MUST put you higher or lower never where you should be.

Maybe what they need is 2 weeks of this new rating and then 2 weeks of your correct rating that way you will not keep fighting same people each week for months but at the same time at least 2 weeks out of the month it will be kinda “normal”. Maybe one week on one week off.

Oh ya wanted to add 1 more thing even though we are getting crushed right now we are still gaining points…… So I guess that is how Anet wants to punish lower servers by putting them against higher servers so we can keep gaining rating and fighting harder and harder servers. Also, the higher servers are losing points because they are not doing as well as Anet thinks they should.

Maybe they are doing this so more people quit playing so they can combine servers??

thx for the fun duels

-Crit Sinn

Aye it was thank you very much for the duels

If anyone would like to duel please hit me up and we can meet at one of the windmills manyme usee is the char i will be logged into

couple of us up dueling at windmill in ET BL would be nice if a couple more peeps would come join

If you drop a bomb everyone should get hit. Putting limits on AoE is what killed small man groups. I’m sorry but if their zerg are all in a circle you can’t say well these 5 will get hit and the other 60 won’t. Also, please come to FC there is no wait time on BL’s and the zergs are much smaller, which watching the video i’m sure you could handle the zergs that we have to fight.

Gudradain.3892:

Good analysis Scooby. I’m from Ebay and I can say that being against #4 and #5 when you are #9 is boring as hell. Sure we can compete to some degree in our prime time but then we get night cap like there is no tomorrow and we wake up with nothing.

We lost half our WvW population this week because no one liked facing 2 such strong (or stacked…) server. As a result, we performed poorly and everything was boring.

There is definitively something wrong and it’s not only the ranking system.

I know what you mean last night I stayed up late and we took about 3/4 of EB and we had our BL as well (I stayed up till 3am PST). I wake up this morning and see that GoM took everything except like 1 camp or something from AR. Everything worked for last night gone by their early morning night crew. I know some people put a bit of money in upgrades before I went to bed but what can you do except just not upgrade anything and just expect to have nothing when you wake up.

I know it’s tough on servers as a whole when this type of stuff happens day after day after day. People quit or go to another server, some even resort to cheats or hacks because they get so fed up. It just makes it bad all around for not only the server that has to take it but also for the winning server. I think at the end of the day we all want a fun competitive matchup which doesn’t seem to happen much at all except for a handful of servers.

Snowreap.5174:

the randomness is limited at the top and the bottom of the rankings.

FC is second from the bottom in NA. there is only 1 server below you, and 22 servers above you. as a result, you will always get a match where at least 1 of your opponents is stronger than you.

you are gaining rating not because you’re doing too well against GoM (you are scoring very close to expectation against them granted we are getting more now from AR). the reason you’re gaining rating is because of AR, who is doing much worse against you than expected. so AR is losing rating and you’re gaining.

-ken

If you look at last week we gained rating against GoM and SF lost rating being 1 above us (we have about the same points this week). SF has been going down fast as well they had more WvW players than GoM just a couple months ago. Again, not sure if its the new way they match servers but something needs to change.

So after fighting a server which has double to tripple our population for a few weeks now I feel that this new system is going to hurt WvW as a whole. In FC we have had to deal with this since this game started so its nothing new, but I do see some issues on top. For example Ehmry Bay, kaineng, and stormbulff Isle have lower scores than FC ATM and maguuma is close. I see that Kaineng is starting to drop like a rock and it seems to have started after this new ranking system came out.

If week after week you get put up against a much stronger server people are just going to quit playing. I don’t PvE so if I can’t take playing WvW anymore I will just quit. It seems like the new system is a double edged sword where its nice to get new teams to fight, but not fun when its not even a challenge for the other server to win. We have been fighting GoM for the last 3 weeks now and 4 out of the last 5. They have double to tripple our population and will be moved to tier 6 this week. I don’t see much randomness when we get a higher server for 3 weeks in a row.

I would also like to point out that Ehmry Bay, Stormbluff Isle and my server FC are all gaining rating! I didn’t like this one bit before, and don’t like it one bit now. You need to change this somehow. My server or any other server shouldn’t gain points while being that far behind in points. So if we keep getting put against higher servers but we do better than the numbers say we will keep moving up until we just get smashed into our spawns by an even higher server. Anyhow, I hope you guys are working on a fix because its needed and needed fast before more players stop playing WvW.

pita spoon.5708:

scooby treat.8420:

So GoM you guys talk about spies and I see you somehow knew about the Golems at your BL and decided to build a treb and attack them in our spawn as well as use known cheats to get in our spawn and trying to build siege on our walls. Shame on you, to be honest I hope we don’t have to face you guys anymore. I guess having double the population still isn’t enough for you guys.

I cant stop laughing at this.. you guys take a camp.. build a golem and if we don’t kill it, you wp it out.. and you somehow think thakittens a secret when we watch you do it. I mean golems don’t just disappear for no reason unless killed or wp back to a no siege spot. also, since its considered a no siege spot and its considered an exploit to build siege behind a no siege spot.. does that mean it would be considered an exploit to build golems and put them back in a no siege spot??

So you see 1 golem made and ported and somehow you bring 15 people to our spawn and build a treb and siege on our walls? I saw most of your guilds tags at the spawn shame…. I think that is more of someone telling you guys something.

Tootsie.5217:

scooby treat.8420:

So GoM you guys talk about spies and I see you somehow knew about the Golems at your BL and decided to build a treb and attack them in our spawn as well as use known cheats to get in our spawn and trying to build siege on our walls. Shame on you, to be honest I hope we don’t have to face you guys anymore. I guess having double the population still isn’t enough for you guys.

Hahahahahaha!

Nice! Posting that you have golems in our bl before you actually use them This guy is a spy!

Did you even look at the pictures? when there is 15 GoM at our spawn trebbing the golems and trying to build siege on our walls i guess its not much of a secret is it? Wow…..

So GoM you guys talk about spies and I see you somehow knew about the Golems at your BL and decided to build a treb and attack them in our spawn as well as use known cheats to get in our spawn and trying to build siege on our walls. Shame on you, to be honest I hope we don’t have to face you guys anymore. I guess having double the population still isn’t enough for you guys.

I have to agree on this. The reason most people play these types of games is because they want to play with people. If I can to 95 percent of the game content solo besides dungeons (and the dungeons are more a pain then fun) whats the point of a group? Thats the main reason I don’t do PvE in this game is because its boring. A couple of my favorite games back in the day did this well. Some of those games were Ultima Online, the first Everquest, and Dark Age of Camelot.

I’ll give an example of boring (to me at least) the events. There is no real threat in the events because you can just keep spawning back. In EQ when you fought a dragon you better make sure you were ready to fight it because if not all your corpses were going to be a carpet for the dragon to stand on. Your stuff was on your corpse and getting it back at that point was a pain. A dragon “event” here there is no “scare” if you die. You needed great teamwork to beat a dragon in EQ here its just auto 1 until its dead. No need to talk to anyone either and no real teamwork.

I am becoming bored with WvWvW which is all I do when I log in. I think it would be fun to allow all servers to fight one and other with some type of “King” of the hill. Like sPVP players would enter a Q and when it reached 10 or 20 or whatever it would start. There could be some castle or something where all servers try and control for a king of the hill style map. The server wins when they hold the castle or point for X amount of time.

Something like this I think would be a ton of fun and you wouldn’t be stuck fighting 2 other servers it would be all servers you could fight against. Heck you could even make it more than 3 servers maybe 5 or something. Thoughts?

Add one more thing. You could also make it where each team has to build something and you are all fighting for supplies in the middle. The players have to carry the supplies back to the base to build whatever it is to win. If you die you lose the supplies. Maybe the structure is some energy base or something. As it gets built siege starts popping up around the base to help protect your players as the get close to your base.

To be honest AC’s do way to much damage now to players however I feel they should also do less damage the farther they go out like the mesmer GS for example. The farther out they shoot the less “arrows” hit their targets and do less damage.

atomicjellybean.5389:

I guess you guys finally got the tier 7 server domination tonight lol

I think its more not many people from Ferg or ET came out tonight and HoD all came out. Could be that it is a holliday weekend and not everyone is at home (looks to be more a Ferg and ET thing). Also I’m starting to get the “Meh” in regards to logging into GW2 its starting to become boring. Nothing new just same old same old.

Figured I would do a score update celeb style. So I didn’t find a henge instead I found a cage. Once at the top now at the bottom Nicholas Cage. ET you guys do have numbers it is seen on reset day but after that you seem afraid to come out and play. I know you can do it be strong. Fergs same thing we have numbers we just need to be more consistent with our numbers. Keep it up all!

Thanks for the duels all was a lot of fun lots of great players on all sides out there.

Just wanted to say thank you to the ET guild BS was a lot of fun with the duels!

wanted to send a warm welcome to HoD. Also a quick score update

Quick score update before I head to bed. Fergie got beat up a bit today, but we had a great stop at our keep at home so i have faith she can get back into shape. GoM put a large force on our boarderlands and most of the others maps too great job pulling in 1st. ET still in last but they are changing it up, but will it be the right change? Great job on all servers keep it up!

The hunt for GoM. So as it was last week GoM seems to be a larger threat so I feel the need to try and slow them down during the times I play. Anyhow seeing that GoM is ALL green I thought I would bring my lower level thief to try and find the GoM celeb! I thought I found him but I was wrong pics attached. I will find him though!

score update. I was wondering where ET was most of the night as they seemed to drop off rather fast once they got the lead. I hope everything is ok so I thought I would give ET a hug. GoM you guys seem to come out late at night and in fact I’m pretty sure I saw you guys on your way to buy some bling earlier in the day. Anyhow fergie was out and about showing off her stuff in SM but looks like GoM broke up the party. Keep it up all.

Quasi.8096:

scooby treat.8420:

Thought I would do a score update in my view of the celebs

ET Phone home!
Reason I picked to transfer to ET over FC.

Darn I should have made FC ET instead hehe!

Thought I would do a score update in my view of the celebs

Thanks for the duels to the guild BS in ET. Would have like to duel each of you at least once but thanks for the chance for some duels I know you guys were there mostly for 5vs5 and stuff

To the guild BS on ET I would like to duel you guys not the 5vs1 as I charge you guys but 1vs1 hit me up.

Update before i go to bed. Again thanks for the duels at the windmill GoM and ET

Just wanted to say thanks both to ET and GoM for those duels at GoM Bl it was a ton of fun

If anyone wants to duel me from GoM send me a tell I’m always up for a duel. We usually duels at a windmill and its easiest in ET’s BL since we are both close to the windmill. Also if anyone from ET wants a duel we can meet at the GoM windmill.

I just wanted to stop in and say i’m happy to see SF doing well. I think we can put to rest all the talk about who belongs where. It is obvious that you guys were meant to be in a much higher tier as all of T8 knew that. It also shows us that everyone in T8 actually could be in T7 as GOM is at the bottom ATM. Not saying it will stay that way but as it stands right now it shows FC or ET could be in T7. I thank Anet for this move (it should have been done much earlier but thank you none the less) it was much needed. Also, all you in T7 trying to complain about SF numbers? GOM is saying the same thing maybe all 3 servers should have switched this week?

Thats not how you stop those types of zergs FYI, they WILL have stability, might and probably retaliation as well, only way to win is to be the bigger, badder ball of death…..Good luck with that by the way personally I don’t like the tactic but it’s certainly effective. Let’s not forget the giant swarm of FC that rolls in every morning and takes what they want because there’s hardly anyone on to defend, that’s why you guys had the lead earlier.

@Parktou.4263

Well we could say the same that the only reason you had the lead in the 1st place is because you guys got AGG? As soon as they logged you guys started dropping in points fast.

They problem is geekanerd is that no one down here in T8 have seen these type of zerg super balls that AGG and VK brought. Bad for us VK was here for a couple of days and AGG is here to stay. Until we learn how to stop that or like you said just run the other way they will just farm bags.

Its kinda like T8 is one of those rural towns and AGG came in from LA or NY with a whole different approach. They only know zerg fighting where down on the lower tier as ours fight usually smaller. Upper tiers do this sort of stuff all the time its the only way they live where we were more use to the small way of life.

My thought is you have to stop them from running through. Throw down some of those walls that make them fall on the ground you must stop them from running through or its loots bags for them. We will either overcome or hide under a rock when we see them. I would rather overcome……

Sororita.3465:

ClassyBear.5078:

SF really got to you didnt they? Dont be angry at us because you couldnt compete with them, nothing but pure hate coming from you kitten ants, hate aimed entirely at the wrong people.

Go look at ET and FC posts concerning this situation and then GoM, you guys are the only ones trash talking.

…The post you quoted is in response to a GoM person trash talking.

And last I checked, what happened to GoM only happened because you guys were at the bottom of your tier. It wasn’t NSP or HoD, it was your server. Currently, SF is matching with those two as opposed to scraping along.

- 5/6 of the bottom servers got transfers…we got hardly any.
-were a PvE server primarily, we were green 2 weeks ago and then the mario box came out, paired with transfers to HoD and NSP we couldnt compete.
-Devs gave no warning on their ratings .

We’re hardly scraping along. Scraping along would be T8 last week, not this match up.

I don’t understand why your crying you are 3rd right now in T8! Why should YOU be in T7? We have been stuck with a server that should be higher than T8 and T7 for months now and you think you somehow got the short end of a stick?

Just wanted to say great job fergs keep it up!!!

Whoot best of luck SF you guys will go far!!!! Welcome GOM get ready!

GrandmaFunk.3052:

scooby treat.8420:

I have been on FC from the start and I can tell you that SF right now numbers easily what Kain and DR did before there push up.

before their push up but after the mass transfers?

I find it hard to believe that current SF numbers are anything like what Kaineng had after the migration. TBH, I don’t think all 6 of the bottom servers added up together have those kind of numbers/coverage.

They have numbers I promise you, when they get there you will see. As you know last week we got a very good T2 guild and some other good guild transfers and ET got a T1 guild and some guild transfers and you know how much of a dent that made to SF? Well look at the numbers not much SF had Zergs on all maps just like Kain and DR. I’m telling you guys you are in for a suprise when they get there.

I have been on FC from the start and I can tell you that SF right now numbers easily what Kain and DR did before there push up. The reason Kain and DR were able to get out was that at the time FC had a much larger WvW base that left during that same time frame which when you go from fighting close matches to blowouts your scores will jump very high 100 points 70 points. I don’t know the numbers of the higher tiers but from what Kain and DR did I would say that SF will at least move up to tier 5 or 4 without much trouble. The only difference is that they won’t have more people jumping onto SF as free transfers are over so I don’t think they will move as high but at the very least 5 or 4.

or Crossing Sorrow’s Terrace will require a stroll with the army of darkness

Rejoice T8!
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Confirmation-from-new-WvW-Staff-on-T8/first#post1773568

@D W.5179

WOW I was soooo happy to read this thanks for brining this to my attention. I hope SF moves up today. I will miss the duels I had with you guys in SF but I’m sure you guys are jumping for joy as much as FC and ET. I wish you guys the best and show T7 what pain means!

well next thursday it will go back to normal so don’t get to excited but it is a very nice change to have some players in WvW for once other than a reset day.

@geekanerd

The same goes for KoH and all the guilds who never give up on FC in WvW much respect.

@SniffyCube.6107

Thank you for the compliment SniffyCube there are many good players on all sides of the fence down here in T8 as you know and I always love the good fights we have.

I heard from one of my guild members that a group of VK held off a large group of SF for a long time in a tower earlier so I am excited to get some new WvW guilds so welcome VK and all the other guilds that joined. I hope both ET and FC get some good guild transfers because as you know we can both use a good boost.

“Yarr? are they on either SF or ET?
if so im sure our guild leader would love to organize some GvG
hope you enjoyed our debut today. all of us at [VK] had a lot of fun.”

@ Virtue

Hi Virtue no we are on FC the server you joined. Welcome to FC I wish you guys the best here. I hope to meet up with you guys and do some WvW (its all I do).

Anyhow tonight I was glad to see some new guilds and players I wish everyone the best who joined us and look forward to seeing you out in battle with us.

I have lost any respect for the SF guild POPO you like to kill a single person going up to the windmill to see about a duel (which is a known duel spot). If I am up at windmill dueling and I see any POPO guild tag you are KOS to me now you are warned.

Navzar.2938:

Um, can you even use both sharpening stone and food? Each one gives nourishment, so you should only be able to use one. Also, if you use 5% of toughness to power, you can only count 5% from the extra power you’re receiving, because you’d be getting 5% on the first 2200 regardless of whether or not you use food. So you’re total would be 336power and 70 vitality if you can use both, or just 210 if you can use one.

Anyway, yes, that’s a significant amount, but the thing is it’s easily available to players. Even the more expensive foods cost around 5s and last half an hour, which is easily made back up seeing as it doesn’t expire on death. So it’s not really a gate stopping the poor or anything. It’s just another part of your build like skills, equipment and traits.

yes you can use both a “food” item and a oil or stone or tuning crystal which they will both say nourishment. My point is that it takes away from other builds. If you can gain most of your power back from the food by going heavy tough/vit doesn’t that limit what a “good” build should be? Would seem to me your only choice for a good build is high tough/vit and the food you want. Maybe if they added a nourishment that gave you power/crit/cond based on the amount of power you had or something. But then what is really the point?