Guild Wars 2

Frankly, this level of WvW play is very very little strategy… GET IN TS! Jeez come on guys get into TS now and follow your commander!… LEFT, RIGHT, BACK, BOMB, WATER.. blahblahblah… such is the life of a blob/zergling… Do most people on these servers really care about their keeps/towers? Not from what I can see… for the most part it’s about the fights. Random havoc groups here and there but too many people to do the cool sneaky stuff that some of our groups used to do on the medium/lower level servers. Things you could get away with because there wasn’t just blobs of people everywhere. There isn’t much more satisfying than stealing a keep from underneath somebody as they fight someone else for example, ( and they don’t k now it until it’s too late ). Those days are gone in the new order of things. People keep yapping about pvd and crap like that.. Those people really do NOT know how things work in the world of lower populations where you can actually have a good fight or skirmish for an object without blobbing, and where you can actually have some fun wreaking havoc here and there without being blobbed to death. The high pop server folks don’t understand what this is really like ( for the most part I think ), and the devs definitely seem to think that this is a part of the game that’s not useful. Both are wrong. I have nothing at all against the blob/zerg groups that love doing that. I’m not one of them.

This is all just sad, but true.. :P

joneirikb.7506:

This is also another reason why I keep suggesting the Dynamic Maps.

Make the number of maps adjust itself after the active population, avoid queues, and avoid empty maps. And also reduce map cap a little bit to avoid the lag while at it.

If 200 people per world wants to get into EBG, and only 50 wants to go to BL’s, then roll up 3 EBG’s and 1 BL. If 20 people wants to go to EBG, and 120 wants to go to BL’s, then 1 EBG and 2 BL’s. (Min 1 of each).

Best way to fight queue’s, let people play where they want, reduce the empty maps, and can even be used to counter off-time PPT advantage somewhat.

It’s not like there’s some group of people suddenly saying.. ‘hey we want to go to a bl’. There’s no way in real time to know exactly some magic number of who wants to go where. That kind of programming doesn’t exist and likely never could since you can’t read people’s minds…. AND by the time let’s say 20 people try to get into a non-existent BL the first 19 of them have likely gone on to do something else.. so that programming wouldn’t be very useful.

Increasing all map caps based on just one doesn’t make sense. It just allows the one with the most to have even more. Increasing just one map is going to have the same effect except now the other maps have no hope of more people coming in.. even though they’re not there to come in anyway…

Just my thoughts.. and no I have no suggestions on this either. Some have come through that were ok. But this one.. simply would not work.

oh ya, that “empty map” thing… ANet has tried to do that in the PvE land but MANY times when I’ve been forced to switched maps due to a low pop on the map I’ve actually been moved to a map with much less people around. Go figure that one… NOT a solution that would even remotely work for WvW.

OK this whole thing about the crafting stations makes me laugh big time. Every time today that I went into ANY spawn including EB I saw no less than 8 people just standing around doing nothing… NOTHING… other than gathering reward points maybe?

And Anet took the crafting stations away because…. ???? oh right, we needed the space for the people that wanted to stand around collecting reward points… sheesh… seriously!

It took me ages to get into EB tonight only to find 12 people standing at spawn doing nothing… not a guild group either… sorry but this is a real crock…

AysonCurrax.3254:

Balthazzarr.1349:

AysonCurrax.3254:

Balthazzarr.1349:

oh hey… seriously while you’re at it, since the wvw goodies are account wide now you should also make the gear that we buy from the wvw vendors account bound instead of soulbound. Matter of fact all gear should be account bound. I really don’t understand the purpose of making armor and weapons soulbound.

Well, while you are at it, might as well get rid of the trading post as well, considering it will be rendered mostly useless since you cant sell your account bound goodies on there anymore.

You never could sell account bound stuff on the TP.

I dont think you understood what i said.
if you remove soulbinding you cant sell ANYTHING anymore.
the only items that are account bound on equip are legendaries, everything else is bound once you acquire it. hence, if EVERYTHING is account bound, the trading post is rendered useless.
Maybe this made it a little clearer what i meant.

ok… so it wouldn’t make the TP useless at all… What you buy from the TP now becomes soul bound once you equip it. If you don’t equip it then you can resell it if you want. The only difference would be having the item become account bound on equip instead of soul bound. It would have zero affect on the TP.

The things that are soul bound on acquire don’t come from the TP. They come from karma vendors, and wvw vendors.

I’m from a lower tier (6 I think) – BP … I do love the big action that I have now being grouped with the higher tier server.. BUT.. It has simply become a place for me to come and fight if I want to. Taking, keeping, towers, camps, keeps, etc is no longer something that’s really a big deal other than the blobs looking to attract people to fight it seems. Nothing wrong with that of course. But I am BP.. and right now BP doesn’t exist in any represented way other than me saying it out loud. Fort Aspenwood is the world I’m hosted on and I have nothing to say against the people there. They do things their way and that’s all good. After the dust clears and I’ve had a few hours of intense blobbing I would really love to just go off and see what BP has done. I would love to go off with a small group of my homies and brand a bunch of stuff with our BP colour of the week.. But I can’t…. and THAT is where this thing is a fail for me. If it becomes permanent and if it turns out that BP will no longer even exist then it truly would cause my engagement in WvW to drop off even more than it already has. The reset night was awful of course. The next two days/nights were quite fun. But the novelty of the fights has worn down for me at least. I will go in a couple times a week I guess to have a little blob fun, but the days of going in every day and reclaiming things for BP and running havoc on other maps “for The Pass!” don’t exist anymore ( at least not right now ). When those days are possible once again then my WvW presence will go back to daily.
In the meantime I’m happy for those who really like this set up. I hope it makes the majority happy ( if it does ) because at the end of the day ‘majority rules’. For me, I won’t cry and whine about it all.. I will just change my play style and find things to do that I like 2nd to WvW but still like to do with friends.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Fay.2357:

Shining One.1635:

What does this mean for people you knock off cliffs with your own skills? Do they still fall to their deaths?

When cced, you can’t enter the glider in PvE maps, not sure exactly how it’ll act in WvW.

It will function the same in WvW. So if you are knocked back while in gliding you will fall to your death.

As a vet WvW player, believe it or not, I welcome this addition. It sounds to me to be well thought out with the appropriate limitations etc. The idea of using a balli to knock someone from the sky, or just gliding in general with the restrictions you have placed on it sounds great.

A LOT of people are going to scream of course, and want to continue with the same old blob vs blob etc. I’m havoc mostly… and while people are screaming about wanting to keep their horseless carriages.. I’m thinking of ways to ignite the gas.. and of how many ways I can be shot from the sky..

psizone.8437:

DemonSeed.3528:

Definitely needs updates, but on more glaring issues.

Definitely, but if we get this riled up over a small, relatively simple update, what will the forums be like if anything goes wrong during an important update?

I think they’ve said a few times that devs go back and forth on projects, it could well have been a non-WvW dev that did this update so it’s not like they did this instead of something else.

They’re definitely slow on the important stuff, and they focused on things that I disagreed with when they did that voting way back. However, I genuinely don’t know how difficult fixing the important issues is or how long it will take, so getting something whilst we wait for those things to get implemented is great.

People seem to get riled up over pretty much any update in this game, and probably every other game out there. There seem to be a fairly solid set of regular folks in here who have something bad to say about pretty much everything. Even the things that “they” asked for aren’t done the “right way”.

Frankly nobody in the world will ever get it “the right way” in everyone’s eyes. The people that complain will continue to complain.

But what I have noticed is that ANet seems to let it all continue and digs through this mess for gems that seem to make sense most of the time. Gliding is a gem and frankly imo has been implemented fairly well despite the few spots that do need tweaking.
It doesn’t seem to me to have been a “rushed change” as one person suggested.

As for the “updates after the updates”… when has there been a time in this game that ANY update hasn’t been followed with tweaks along the way.

Folks… build a game this huge and complex and let me know when you can make significant changes to it without having to tweak it.

[podium mode on]
In the meantime, seriously, please step back from the “Anet doesn’t love us” rhetoric and just either enjoy what you can in the game most of us paid for, or give some constructive feed back. All the insults that are flying around on these forums, (that ANet seems to be ok with), are truly not productive.

- to the folks quoted in this reply… this is NOT pointed at you –

[podium mode off]

DBL obviously isn’t the favorite.. but in our matchup it’s not exactly barren. The last couple of nights we’ve had lots of action… of course not EB (ugh don’t like that place), or like the other BL’s, but still fun.

People say in here that the folks that voted for it don’t play it.. Maybe that’s true to a degree… but I see a lot of people running in DBL when needed, and frankly love to spend as much time there as possible. If you get to know the map inside/out it’s not that hard to get around and fun to battle for keeps. yaya I’m sure enough people will go boooo on this but frankly I don’t care. I’m glad the DBL is here… hope it stays… and will continue to make it my first stop in WvW, and usually my last.

Have fun!

pop a little post into the regular chat now and then inviting new possible rp’ers to join the squad. Squads can be made open for anyone to join so that’s not an issue.

Gaile Gray.6029:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

ERP can be reported. If it’s especially… graphic, then create a support ticket and include screenshots of the dialogue.

Yes, this is true. If you find the content offensive, not because you don’t like any roleplaying, but because a certain segment of roleplaying is crossing the line into sexually-related content, abusive chat, truly “offensive” content in the standard definition of the word, then use the in-game report system, please, and the team will review.

Not sure if someone has said this in the huge list of posts, but reporting someone who is just emoting their actions is not that easy. You can’t click on a person’s name when they emote and get anything back. You only get that it they post in /say or /map chat.

What you’re left with then is adding the person as a friend, then possibly reporting them that way..

It’s so sad that the huge majority of the comments you see in here now are about removing the linking even though the apparent poll asked for it. But of course the poll was in favor since MOST people that play gw2 are on the top 4 tiers… that in itself skewed the results of the poll. Those of us in the lower tiers that really liked how we played had no chance.

We have also seen our community slowly broken down into either roaming guild groups or simply groups that come in for missions and leave. Most hosts are gracious and fun to run with but it is THEIR server, not ours. A large number of the people I know personally don’t like the big zergs and don’t run in them. I would rather run with a few people and run havoc on camps and towers and battle other roamers than be a “borg” drone.

ANet will continue to see these posts; will continue to ignore them because they know better; and will continue to see people like us play less. As I’ve said in other posts, I’ve seen so many of my friends stop playing completely. The other leader of my guild and her partner are two of them. My guild went from a nice roaming group of about 10 on average, to a group of 1-3 on a good day in WvW. I know at least 6 other people personally that stopped playing because of the linking…. and that’s just people that I know.

One positive thing financially has come out of this for me though.. I spend a LOT less money on gems than I used to since my commitment to WvW and even to this game has dropped off significantly.

I truly don’t understand why ANet thinks that it’s ok to toss people around from server to server and really think that they love it… because I believe most of us don’t. The ones that do (for the most part) already had moved to higher tier servers… :P

People in game tell me pips reset each week.

I just re-read the release notes on the release forum and don’t see that said in there. Am I blind?

I’m not very happy that I was part way through Mithril last night and today I’m back to Wood. At the very least we should be able to get to the end of the whole track (just like the reward tracks), before starting over. As a very old time player this seriously burns my butt. I play this game every day and more than 90% of my time is in WvW.

Come on ANet.. please make it so that we can at least get all the way through the track before starting over.

(oh and please don’t tell me to read through all the tldr stuff that’s splattered through these forums.. :P )

lol, not sure what all this guard hype is about really. Staff? what’s that? It changed? oh ya… but I don’t use it. Not sure about other folks but my guard/dh is alive and well and kicking butt.

Ele, Necro, … glassy, no mobility etc? Seriously you need to build these better.

Lol. PLAY LOTS MORE! ????

apharma.3741:

DeceiverX.8361:

They left.

I don’t know of a single player who was around in 2012/2013 who still plays WvW.

Didn’t get the game till about a year after launch but still sorta play WvW. This week I’m taking a break though because T1 is full of condi builds and packs of stealth gankers.

Question to those that have been here for 4 years, are you happy with the way WvW has changed over the years? What went well and what went poorly?

Frankly I think, after reading way too many of these forums, that condi has been the worst thing for WvW. I don’t know if that’s true for sure but it really does take a lot of skill out of a battle. Then there’s the boon-share and protection stuff that makes siege in keeps almost useless against big zergs so small groups of people can’t defend a keep well anymore… and the list continues.

Is it fair? Balanced? of course not… nothing in life is fair or balanced. But as far as this game goes what has changed for me is that when I come into GW2 both in PvE and in WvW I only do it to hang out with people I like. Sometimes I actually join up with a zerg but very rarely… I used to care about score but considering that winning/losing the week doesn’t get you anything more than a pat on the back by yourselves what does it matter really?

I like the roaming and fights in small groups. Sometimes defending just for the action. Especially since the server linkings. Now that my server does NOT have a “home” base anymore and is moved from host to host my ‘ownership’ of any spot in WvW doesn’t exist anymore. I simply play to hang with friends and have some fun, then leave.

So far I don’t see a compelling argument against the 2/1 BL split. I don’t agree that it will be this big disadvantage to anyone. If anything it could be an advantage if some people decide to boycott it. I know my groups will go into them and paint them with our colours… so while some of the folks are staying away and whining… we will own their land.

Smashie: I hear you totally and agree completely. I keep going back in there for bits at a time but I'm also going in less and less. Today I gave it the "good ol' college try" but with outnumbered showing most of the time and enemy camped at pretty much every camp we couldn't even run a guild mission. I don't like the PvE guild missions but it's looking like I'm going to have to stop going into WvW and start spending my time getting used to PvE again. I like the talent shows... but I usually watch them AFTER I've had my wvw time... This week I've watched my shows first for a change then spent a short bit of time in GW2 poking around... If only ANet would do this poll they said they would do, and then do something about whatever the results were. Leaving things as they are is disheartening to say the least. I like a lot of the people on FA that I have met, but it's their server... and we will likely be tossed off to a different server before we know it. In that regard I have nothing really left to play WvW for except for missions ( which can barely be done ) and maybe to run with a few friends when they're on. Other than that I don't give a rats a@ much about what is and isn’t capped anymore.

Dawdler.8521:

OriOri.8724:

Dawdler.8521:

redwing.9580:

for the people complain about the map being hard to navigate go and look through the patch notes for the past few months they have been making changes to it so we don’t know if it will still be how it was before

Suuuuuuure… “changes”. Looking through notes starting starting May 17th and searching for “desert”:

Fixed a bug with the teleporter on the dunes above the Fire Keep.
Fixed a bug with automatic blessing at the east Earth Shrine.
Fixed a bug with a jump pad on the north side of the Air Keep.
Fixed a bug with a floating mortar in the Air Keep.
Changed the jump platforms at the Air Keep so that they launch players similarly to how jump mushrooms work in the jungle maps.
Removed some of the jump platforms, since the new jump platforms launch players further.
Banker added.

Wanna bet that it’ll be exactly like before with minor bugfixes?

How convenient that you “forgot” to look through the April patch notes that brought about a kittenton of changes to the DBL

I didnt forget. That was still when we played it. What I quoted suggested its been changed since it was taken down. How convenient that you missed that.

DBL was changed a lot before it was taken down. Getting around in there is a lot easier now. They removed a lot of the cliffs/walls etc and even added stairs in spots that weren’t there before. It’s much easier and quicker to get from place to place. As well they changed the wp’s so that anything you own that’s upgraded can have the wp accessed just like in Alpine.

Seriously if more people had checked that out just before Alpine came back, AND read ALL the notes for the updates to the DBL’s I think maybe the prejudice might be a little less. A lot more people were playing on the DBL’s just before they went away.

Yes the north towers are still simply two structures with no strategic value other than PPT and WxP but maybe they’ll do something about that… frankly I don’t care. The three keeps alone are a lot of fun and the layout is nowhere near as bad as the nay sayers think and say it is. imo

I keep hearing about these glitches… I’ve never seen anyone taking advantage of them, whatever they are… and those that do simply suck… In the meantime… LOVE the DBL’s… don’t want to see them go… and have lots of nice small scale fights on them… and now and then get steamrolled by a blob that, for some reason, doesn’t want the 5-10 of us taking their keeps… go figure.

They are making a ton of money off of us… seriously has to be more than enough for this ‘fix’ to happen.

That would be an awesome April 1st item!

I guess it’s empty for you guys… It’s not empty much of the time for us. I don’t care for PPT… ever period.. I don’t care at all about the scores period. I look for small scale fights, since blobs simply suck. … and of course I take everything I can from the enemy. If it gives ppt to the folks that like ppt then I guess that’s ok.. for me.. .don’t care.

double holy crap… so we have all these awesome infusions that we can’t use and don’t get refunded and it costs TEN to TWENTY laurels to buy the new infusions, depending on what you want…

ANet please… seriously you need to give us our laurels back…

I have said it before in other threads… Doesn’t your machine and internet make a difference? I know that not everyone can afford it but my little gaming laptop doesn’t suffer this lag people speak of. Not even with two enemy zergs in the same spot. Am I just lucky?

roaming returned? roflmao… so funny… things are much smaller of course… and the big groups of people get to where you are trying to do your little caps and run you over… and sadly some of them even drop siege on you… nothing like a good 15 to 1 kill.. lol, that’s gotta feel good. I’m not sorry to say, I miss the DBL’s already. I mean really, if we’re gonna have these little toy bl’s then let’s go back to our little servers … :P Just sayin…

so many, where to start… one is being stained by people because I don’t get into teamspeak. I may be following a tag at a given time but really doing my own thing.. Not everyone needs to be on teamspeak unless they are part of the zerg/blob and really trying to give support to the bigger group. People seriously need to remember that THEIR mode of play isn’t the only one. WINNING in WvW means nothing other than “we won something”… no rewards, nothing.

Some of us actually like to come in and provide support in other ways.

In the meantime… what I dislike the most about WvW… server linking! ugh. Merge if you have to but linking sucks.

lol, I have every class… with all the people out there running revs, guards, warriors etc… a Ranger here and there doesn’t hurt. With stacks and hitting certain skills my Ranger runs with Power: 3k+, Toughness: 2.4k+, Health: 19k, Crit: 73-104%, Crit damage: 162%

People may think that’s self serving for some odd reason but for me it takes enemy down pretty darn fast, and if I need to I can invoke the Druid healing to be helpful..

So ya, keep your Revs etc and have fun with them.. I have one of everything, and two of a few… the most fun I have is with my nasty Ranger. It’s all good I guess… doing stuff alone in this game is not a new thing regardless of how many people are around. But still… being rejected for a given class by people who obviously will never agree with how good a Ranger really can be… well.. meh.

sigh I hate to say it but it doesn’t matter what we say… we all should know that by now. They don’t even respond in any way to much of the thoughtful stuff that people say in here… and you can find some gems amongst the rubble.

Sorry but I didn’t read this because at the end of the day it’s another in a long list of suggestions and experience has shown that ANet is going to do what they decide in their meeting rooms… not what we suggest… except maybe by fluke…

Even better would be to raise the price of transfers to 1800 gems for ALL servers right after the relinking/rebalancing is done. At that price you would be much less likely to have people continuing to bandwagon over to the hosted servers for 500 gems, and keep things balanced longer.

Interesting, I’ve been playing gw2 since Sept. 2012 and have never seen an anet claimed objective on any server I was on. I guess they keep moving around and I miss them.

TheGrimm.5624:

Balthazzarr.1349:

lolol…. seriously I must be one of the only ones that loves the current maps. I’m sure the old ones will be just fine but soooooo boring running through them… ah well… I concede to the ‘majority’

Your not alone.

What’s annoying is I am happy that people are happy that wanted ABL back and they can play there again. But at the same time irritated since the new maps were a lot of fun. So its now up to ANet to provide good customer service and make up the loss of good will to those that like DBL or even liked both.

So again, why do we have to have 3 copies of the same map. Lets move to a 4 map solution then both sets of people have options.

A 4 map solution would be awesome. It makes more sense that everyone gets a different layout. And that would make the game even way more interesting, challenging, and of course fun!

The linking may be good in many ways but as a long time player in BP I now play A LOT LESS wvw than I ever did before. I simply have zero incentive to go fight for “my” server since it has no home anymore. I simply go in now and then to have some fun with friends. I used to be in wvw about 95% of the time. Now it’s about half on a good day.

Also due to the linking my time IN GW2 has gone from around four hrs a day to as low as one. And many days I don’t even play… And for me that says alot!

I think people forget the fact that in order for this “free” upgrade to happen you have to keep the camps running! Similar to before, but before it depended on the amount of supplies in the keep and who wanted to dish out the silver and gold for the upgrades.

Now you fight to keep the camps running and get your upgrades that way. It’s so easy to halt an enemy upgrade just by roamers taking the camps over and over again. It happens a lot. So now you get OUT of the keep and have a bit more fun than just sitting in and zzzzz then spending more gold.

Yes, if nobody is on because everyone is sleeping you get the auto-upgrades more quickly etc etc. We see a lot more T3 keeps now than before I think .. maybe .. But isn’t WvW more about the battles, in and out of the structures than it is the poor little guy that sits in there for hours babysitting and trying to get the upgrades in the order that someone wants without being screamed at.. even though it was HIS gold that paid for the upgrades?

Frankly I think this system that we have now is much better overall.

Stealth defensive? For a thief? You tell that to the people that get downed and killed by thief’s that stay invis pretty much the whole time… when you can’t even get a shot in because they ganked you from behind.

After all is said and done, as usual there’s a lot more said than done. Ain’t that the way

In previous posts in other forums here I have deferred to the majority, hoping that this makes most people happy. I’ve seen posts from people saying that the minority should sit back and basically stop whining because this is the way most people want it. But consider this… Although the lower tiers contain the lower number of players I’m pretty sure that those numbers are still good decent number of people that actually bring some good money into the ANet bank account. Sure, it’s all good to cater to the majority and do what they want but at the end of all of this if GW2 loses a bunch of WvW players (and possible players period) because it remains basically ‘blob city’ what has really been the “win”?

A lot of talk has been around ‘play style’. Play style means a LOT to some people. I actually like to get into a zerg/blob once in a rare while and just pound the heck out of each other. But most of the time I really like just working with a group of people I know “digging” into keeps and towers and hopefully having some fun small scale fights here and there. It’s not all about that silly pvd people talk about. It’s really about NOT being in a situation where you are running into huge blobs all the time. I started this game on Borlis Pass in Sept. 2012 and got into WvW early the next year. I love the play style and the people, and as much as I enjoy a lot of the people I’m meeting in FA I am sorely missing the way things were. I will never get used to being steamrolled by a blob when I’m roaming.. that I don’t understand. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been with one of my groups and seen a single person maybe capping for dailies etc and left him/her alone. Then of course there are days when that person isn’t so lucky depending on the situation. But if you see what I’m saying.. it’s small scale and I like that. I’m in the minority and not wanting to dictate GW2 wide policy.. I just don’t want my play style to be taken away. People at the ‘low’ levels are there because, believe it or not, most of us like it.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

You must be getting different items than I. (And I have no mules, nor any characters with max bag slots.) Perhaps, a -repair of the client is in order?

Good luck.

roflmao… man you must not do much in this game… seriously… if you don’t have loot filling up your bags you must be sleeping in there…

Well, really people need to undersand… if you are commanding a squad of 5-10 then you are havoc, which really means you want to try to assist the big squad on the map by hitting smaller objects as much as possible. If you are 5 or less (I know we want 5 or more), then you’re more like a roaming group, which also hits smaller objects.. mostly camps, sentries, yaks… and even towers if you can get away with it.

Small groups getting wiped is a way of life in WvW unless you really have a super tight team with builds that compliment the group. It is what it is.. for the most part you will have people that don’t know WvW that super well and are pugs (Pick up Group).

The best way to teach new people, in my opinion, is to get some into a small group and run them around in a roaming/havoc fashion and explain what’s happening on the map. If they prefer they can just follow the zerg/blob and pretty much learn nothing.

I believe this may have been the intent of ANet when they implemented this 5 or more squad reward.

You won’t likely get them into TS or Discord (unless you’re really lucky) so it’s textmanding you go. Voice Chat channels really are best for coordinated fighting. Small groups can get away with the message box (squad chat) fairly easily since you aren’t typically trying to deal with a field battle.

Waypoint Mastery is the first thing everyone learns… aka.. you die, you waypoint.. lol

Osu.. did you even READ the whole thread? The complaining stopped a LONG time ago. Coming in here and writing what has already been written then telling me to stop complaining etc etc shows you simply want to shoot your mouth off and NOT even see how the thread developed from start to what was the finish just before your message.

Paulytnz.7619:

Just a tip everybody:

don’t destroy your infusions that were mailed to you. You can trade them into the new Golem in Fractals for relics. I think I got a total of 75 relics for my +5, better than nothing I guess…..

You can only trade the agony resistance infusions… the other infusions that can’t be used that I had on my amulets are now useless since I can’t even sell them on the TP.

Mag is DBL this week and leading. So much for that theory.

lol… ah well Mylerian… what do ya do… seriously you didn’t expect something good did you? At least it’s something different, more range, maybe more damage than the ac’s… who knows… at the end of the day who cares because they will do what they want. Oh I used to take WvW seriously as a part of the game to really get into… now it is truly not much more than a lark. A little more intense at times than PvE but mostly boring blobsters or roaming aimlessly for a server I don’t even belong to.

@Soon.5240… seriously? I have to say you have amazing nerve to come out and say such ridiculous stuff when you are NOT the company. Obviously don’t work for it.. .or if you did you would be fired.

The polls were requested over and over again by people here.

@ People against DBL. Suck it up.. DBL is here.. if you don’t like it, don’t play it. Frankly I see a lot of people in the DBL’s a lot of the time. .. and the other times it’s nice to roam and have small fights.. who the heck wants to zerg non-stop.. ugh.

and for the sake of your own sanity.. if you all really hate this game so much just go away! unless you actually have some constructive stuff to put in here other than EVERYONE hates this.. which obviously means everyone that agrees with you.

Frankly the DBL gives a nice bit of variety, both in map difference as well as population. Yes the huge groups prefer to blob in EB and the boooring Alpine maps… let them have them! Go blob .. there’s plenty of space for you to do that. There’s also plenty of people that love roaming that the DBL is nice for.

As for the ‘revenue generating’ comment… well DUH! What do you think they made this game for? fun? sheesh…

I have solved my WvW dilema… After all this linking and relinking I finally got to the point where I don’t give a rats butt about scores period. Frankly don’t care if someone caps something since it can be capped back. What I do like to do is get a small group and just go in and take everything we can, have some fights (not blobs)… and maybe defend if it’s a T3 keep … I mean ya don’t wanna lose those wp’s!

Other than that… the folks can scream their freakin heads off for people to GET ON TAG! STUPID NOOB… and anything else they can think of.. I’ll just take my Mithril butt so wherever the wind (phew) blows and just have fun… No salt in my WvW anymore.. :P