Guild Wars 2

oh it gets better… the infusions you can’t use now have become account bound so you can’t even sell them… holy.. this is getting scammy.. sorry ANet but seriously why are you making things such a pain?

neven.3785:

Yay maybe scouts will leave their walls more and actually move around the map

That’s the problem! We need scouts to do what they do. This new system actually makes it even worse for people who scout to hang around and help notify/defend a keep that’s about to be attacked.

It really just encourages more and more farming and that’s about it.

PopeUrban.2578:

• Plays the least mobile class
• Decides to use it in a role that prioritizes mobility
• Complains that classes better suited for the role are better at it

World PvP is not about killing people. It is about objectives. Killing people is a method through which you claim objectives. If you are causing other players to run away, you are winning. If you want to play a game mode where killing is people is the primary focus, that is what Conquest is for. It is designed to funnel players in to very small spaces and force them to stay there to gain progress and rewards.

WvW is not designed for what you seem to think it is.

“Roaming” is just a fancier way of saying “I want to gank people and don’t care about contributing to my team.”

Scouts contribute to teams. They scout. It often means actively avoiding fights. Roamers just waste ques in an effort of find lopsided fights to stroke their egos, and complain when things don’t go their way.

WvW (and GW2 in general for that matter) is not designed around 1v1 fights. Attempting to make it so, then complaining the experience is lackluster is willful denial of the game you’re playing.

If you’re going to do something the game wasn’t designed to do in the first place, don’t complain that the thing you’re doing is poorly balanced.

You don’t understand roaming if that’s what you think it’s only about. When I am Roaming I am NOT looking for players to fight. I am taking camps, taking back camps, taking out sentries so our zergs can go places with less detection. If I have even one person with me then we are hitting and taking towers where we can as well.. Maybe tagging keeps to distract the enemy for our zerg… and so on.

THIS is what WvW is about, and THAT is what Roaming is really about. PvP roamers don’t have any place in WvW in my opinion… but true Roamers that do what I listed above are not only good to have, but very valuable to the commander on the map.

metabattle is actually a decent place to get initial builds then as you learn to play/fight etc you adjust your build from there. As a beginner you are probably going to want a build that helps you survive and maybe support those around you.

Lots of good suggestions here. To add on to them… A real good way to learn WvW is to have a friend who already plays it. Get him/her to buddy with you and help you understand what’s going on as you go.

Most commanders won’t have the time to explain a lot unless it’s a small group commander. If I’m commanding (Borlis Pass – linked with CD atm)… I typically run small havoc groups and will always say what we’re doing and often offer comments of why we’re doing it, why we’re putting siege “here”, why we’re running like hell.. or fighting to the death.. and so on.

Bottom line… prepare to die a lot, prepare to have fun if you can handle dying a lot

Watch and learn. Good luck, Have fun!

I almost hate to say this but in the course of a night if I join up with an active group in WvW it seems that the dailies always take care of themselves. Even the rank up… I don’t believe it’s a full rank.. just a rank level…. get that rank bar from one side to the other.. I always get the daily when that happens.
As for the veterans… there are more than one on each map and so easy to get that they’re boring… I’ll usually get a few hits in while people take it down then leave to the next thing… always get the credit… yep I’m lazy that way.. :P But really more interested in the real wvw stuff and absolutely never focused on the dailies..

As noted.. the dailies always take care of themselves for me when I join an active group… large or small.. it’s not hard if you have a group that knows what they’re doing.. and DBL is always there for a Keep capture… there almost always seems to be one that is T1 and an easy cap…. and DBL being what it is I’ve taken keeps with 3 people more than once…

So the topic is: “Our thoughts on the current week…”

After running this past week up until tonight I was still not that pleased with all this change, loss of identity so to speak, and play style. Then I met up with a few people tonight who regularly run in MY time zone as a guild group. Great bunch of people. For the first time all week I had a very fun night. I was online longer tonight and IN WvW than I have been all week.. Actually I think I was on longer tonight than I was the last 5 days put together, ( in WvW ). I have now joined one of the FA guilds. If ANet decides after the 3 month period that they are going to move BP away from FA to another spot then I will simply do a server switch and stay here. I’m not about to be moved around like a picture on the wall to satisfy somebody’s idea of ‘balanced’ play.

So my thoughts are this. I don’t like the forced merge. I don’t like the idea that they will probably move BP somewhere else. But I do like the people I’ve met, and I am now enjoying the game play that this guild does… and I will stay here and continue to enjoy it if ANet moves BP elsewhere. I really think that if they do move the low servers around again ( by force ) they will start to either lose people, or those people will just say NO and switch to one of the servers of their choice. At that time ANet will start having balancing issues … what? say it isn’t so.. haha… I can’t wait to see how it all plays out.

Definitely will NOT be wasting any gold, laurels etc on infusions for the new slots.. as if I need more gold, xp, mf etc… just need skill stats for my fighters…

Dawdler.8521:

Balthazzarr.1349:

I have said it before in other threads… Doesn’t your machine and internet make a difference? I know that not everyone can afford it but my little gaming laptop doesn’t suffer this lag people speak of. Not even with two enemy zergs in the same spot. Am I just lucky?

Simple answer: Yes. Yes you are.

It doesnt matter whether you play on a 16 core/gtx1080/500mbps machine or a single core potato with a post-it smileyface as GPU and a cup with a string as internet, when the skill queue of an instance get swamped it chokes and cant send requests back to clients fast enough. Ie skills keep blinking even when you dont lag otherwise.

Two zergs fighting is generally not enough to cause it, try three full 80 man borderblobs fighting at once.

ok I will continue to count my lucky stars then. I’ve experienced lag you talk about twice so far this year but nothing recently… I’m currently linked to a T2 matchup but so far I haven’t been in a three way battle of blobs so maybe the lag is coming

I agree though, for the most part this has to be a server capacity issue and who knows if they can/will fix that.

I’m sorry Safir but this isn’t about ‘pay to win’ for me in any way. I love this game.. I love almost every part of it. Why on earth would I not want to pay for the extra goodies? I don’t understand that at all. As for pay to win… this game isn’t pay to win.. unless you count buying gear, mats, and so on, like you have to do in pretty much any competitive game etc.

I will NEVER mind paying for my entertainment. I am a programmer… and I know what it takes to do these things. Sorry but I’ll never never understand people that get upset about anything they get for free when it costs huge amounts of money and time to develop these things.

It IS a business after all.. they want m o n e y! I want e n t e r t a i n m e n t.. so I pay. not to win… but to have fun.. . period.

oh and lastly.. “current generation of gamers”… I am 60 yrs old… not quite current.. but still having fun!

Removing my tag also caused the game to crash…

Strider Pj.2193:

Balthazzarr.1349:

DevilishLyx.2340:

Strider Pj.2193:

So you’re saying it’s working as intended?

No I’m saying imagine if you have redo the heart quests on a map in order to fly near it, and then you have to redo ALL the heart quests in order to fly anywhere on the map.
But then imagine this being on an hour timer (WvW towers and camps can flip within 5-10 minutes minimum) and you having to redo all those all over again in order to glide.

You wouldnt accept that on a PvE map, so why a WvW map?

Capturing a tower to be able to access it via gliding has absolutely zero to do with redoing hearts in PvE. zero…

After re reading this, he MUST be trolling lol…

agreed.. :P

There is no real reason they should or will add gliding to WvW. As many have noted it’s just not something that would be good to have except maybe for those PvE players that like to glide. Give me gliding then give me mass invisibility so the zerg on the ground can shoot the zerg in the sky without being seen… and so on and so on…

Nope, just nerf condi and the other gimicks and give us back good old hard fighting! Now THAT would be fun.

XenesisII.1540:

Fixes to outnumbered and participation for pips.
New tag colors!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-July-11-2017

World vs. World
General

• Outnumbered is now applied each scoring tick (every 5 minutes). Swapping to a map right before a tick will no longer grant an Outnumbered pip bonus. Instead, you must play on an Outnumbered map for an entire tick to earn the bonus.
• Consume All now works for Badges of Honor.
• The Skirmish Chest now opens a vendor window instead of an item-selection window. This will allow multiple items to be selected from the chest.
• Participation decay timers have been adjusted so that players must be more active to keep participation from decaying.
• Three new commander icon colors have been added: cyan, magenta, and white.

lolol.. oh good, more colours for me not to see… now someone is gonna say… cyan tag.. and I will say.. huh? give me the name of the person please… and so on

@Ultra… agree with you there… and I don’t want to see a situation where the bl’s are dead all the time either. I don’t even totally disagree with merging lower/higher tier servers but if we are to do that make it a permanent change and give everyone an identity that they are fighting for. Not just fighting for the sake of fighting because even that gets stale after a while. Right now as a low server ( BP ) I have no real home, and no real investment in fighting for the “homeland” since I am well aware that it’s most likely that my “homeland” will be somewhere else in a few months. How much fun is that? Switching servers would just be a stupid waste of gems since you can only switch to low pop servers and they will be moved around as well. See the problem? My main complaint isn’t about the merger itself but the way this beta is being run. If ANet is truly going to expect people in the low pop servers to continue to be tossed around from host to host and not get really tired of it they are wrong. I used to spend at least 95% of my time in WvW. Now I just go in when I see friends in there and feel like running with them for a bit… and that’s probably 25% of the time at best.

I do understand that the majority gets to rule, and that as we know are the populations on the host servers. At the end of all of this the low pop servers still have no real representation in this process and are mostly being called whiners by the people that are established and not being tossed around. Seriously, all I want is a server that is HOME. Preferably BP if possible, but somewhere other than a floating team of pugs.

Trajan.4953:

Bear with me on this.

I suggest make the oasis a completely flat surface. No funky terrain, no trees, no cliffs or Ewok homes, just a flat open plain.

It is equal running distance from all spawn points and would become the ideal place for groups to fight. In the blink of an eye it would become the most popular BL.

Flame away:)

oh boy… man this was one of the things I suggested over and over again immediately after they shut down that silly event in the center. I truly don’t know why nobody in ANet thought that was a good idea as well. Making it a great flat spot that could actually provide a spot where you might even get “Guild Wars” happening would be great. But… nope…

Hexinx.1872:

I never see inappropriate comments in team chat. Maybe you should report those guys on your server or just block them.

You obviously are not on Maguuma, or linked with Mag… I have so many blocked that I have just given up again now and turned Team chat back off.. Truly not worth it.

BearCat.3286:

About titles. They will never do that, because they try to hide the fact that there was a rollback. Don’t believe me? Look at this then: https://www.guildwars2.com This page says ‘Nothing happaned, nothing at all.’

hmmm.. I don’t see where it says: “Nothing happaned”… I don’t even see it saying that Nothing Happened….

But… if you check the Forums where all these things are talked about obviously you will find all the info.

Please stop trying to make an issue where none exists… :P

Depraved Ambience.7942:

Calliope.8675:

Perhaps, as a guild hall upgrade, they could add all of the crafting stations to the market or the side of it. At least then people would have easy access to crafting stations from anywhere in the PvE map without cluttering the WvW maps (if that’s what wvwers are really afraid of).

ANet said that they were not going to put crafting stations in guild halls so that people wouldn’t basically become hermits. They are not putting them in guild halls so that players have to go to cities and “be” social.

oh good lord.. roflmao… like people crafting are being social. If that’s true then they really really are not thinking well. Make the halls a place to go that have all the stuff you need. Make them upgrades of course.. it’s not that big a thought ANet.. I’m not anti-social but having a spot IN my hall for my guild members to gather and craft etc makes sense. The thought that I might interact with other people I don’t know when I’m at a general crafting station makes me laugh. It doesn’t happen.. with the rare possibility of rp’ers that are looking for chat.. :P

Remove the cap altogether.

I have to say that under the current matchup for us it’s a lot like what you say Chaba. Except for DBL it seems that our groups, even the larger ones of around 30 get steamrolled by the much huger k-trains. Which is one of the reasons I’m not that interested in the big zerg/blob scene. I prefer to run with a smaller group of 4-10 people and find other small groups to fight while taking mostly smaller objects and even keeps now and then while the blobs are fighting elsewhere on a map.

You can’t change anything in this game by screaming in here. The salty’s would be best to either find a way to have fun or another game. My friends are here and frankly that’s it. As for the ridiculous scoring and concern over PPT.. pffftt! who the heck cares.. not me, will never care about the score. Will find fights, defend keeps (because some good fights there) and find ways to have fun. But complaining? meh… all done there.. kick butt, stomp heads, repeat.

Juular.4729:

I know i would get this reaction, but think about everyone on the same level of stats plus will help new players coming to the game mode, i guess Mike O’Brien was correct wvw players really love pve more.

Definitely would not help anybody really. Not in WvW anyway. WvW is NOT PvE and the stats are not PvE. We make our builds specific to WvW and in no way do we need some ridiculous amulet system to take away our options.

Popping the tag in WvW also caused the game to crash…

Kamara.4187:

Dawdler.8521:

Kamara.4187:

I agree with the ranking daily. When you start getting up there in rank its not going to happen in a day, which is a jerk move on the part of the developers to put something so ridiculous in! Truth its a slap in the face!

Eh what? WvW ranks is a fixed amount of XP no matter if you are rank 50 or 5000. Getting 2 ranks is like 30 minutes if you EB zerg, maybe an hour otherwise. There is nothing hard about it.

Either way, the dailies are there to encourage you to play all the aspects of the game. Not just WvW. Some are more annoying than the rest, true. But if you do something in PvE for less than 5 minutes, maybe do a single sPvP match and WvW for less than 5 minutes you are basicly guaranteed completing the 2g daily. It has to be really kittenty RNG to fail.

If you only do WvW dailies to complete it – which undoubtedly will take longer – then that is your choice. People complaining about this only have themselves to blaim. Dont want to do easy dailies? Then dont complain.

I wvw. That is what I do, and usually I’m doing the job most can’t be bothered to do like babysitting a keep and keeping the siege in world so it don’t despawn (often at hills, garri and bay at the same time). Oh and I also play in the wee hours of the morning while most are sleeping so jump back.

Yes Kamara… and THAT is another one of the problems with the dailies that just came to mind. There seriously should be a daily that involves maintaining a Keep for a specified period of time… or refreshing a certain number of siege etc.

The fact that there are so very few people like you is disappointing… but the fact that there ARE people like you there that actually help your team have a chance against an incoming blob because the siege was still there is a blessing!

ANet should really make a new daily that involves siege maintenance in Keeps!

Not even sure what the OP’s post is supposed to prove other than there’s a queue on his home BL.

Maybe ANet removed the crafting stations really so that people wouldn’t use them as an excuse to stand around and collect reward points.. Yep, instead of that MANY people just stand around in keeps and spawn points collecting points. I see more people now than ever just standing around doing nothing.. In the keeps they will do this unless or until somebody attacks. Once in a while go outside and run around like being useful then come back in.. I watched in amusement last night as no less than 20 people stood around our Keep (FA / SoR linked EB doing nothing. Oh yes I was doing nothing as well of course, other than watching to see what would happen. Some were complaining about the lack or organization.. lol… (Note: from what I’ve experienced FA rocks with organized fighting)

After 20 minutes I logged out after observing that most of them were still there.. doing what they were doing when I got in.. zzzzz.. so sad…

@XTD – actually one of the best ideas I’ve seen in here so far. As a person who’s in the linkup with Mag (many of whom make it clear almost daily that they got to T1 alone and actually ask BP folks to leave a BL if they want “their” people to be able to get in.. lol )…

It would be nice to see something like what you’re suggesting. To me it makes more sense, period.

Getting the ‘low’ servers off of the highest servers would definitely go a good distance in slowing down the bandwagoning of people popping onto the ‘low’ servers because it’s cheaper (500 gems instead of 1000 or 1800).
Leave the high servers alone to do their things as they always have since they aren’t the ones that actually had any issues with numbers…. and so on…

Elementalist Owner.7802:

Idk why people are voting for simultaneous borderlands. One server having a different BL might not be fair. Not to mention, it doesn’t make sense having mixed borderlands unless all three maps are different. Now that would be a cool idea.

I think part of the reason is because it’s quarterly rotation, when it should rotate every week to keep things fresh. A quarter is just too long.

As I told my kids as they were growing up. Life is NOT fair and never will be. If it was the same server getting the same BL everytime then that would just be wrong.. but it won’t be that way. Would love to have 3 different BL’s… but since we only have a choice between the same one everywhere and 2 +1 different then I like the idea of one different over all the same.. just my opinion of course

well considering you can’t sell them there’s not much choice but to either save or destroy them… arg…

@Daemonne: I’ve heard other people talk about transferring “down”. Down where? There really isn’t much of a down.. it’s either big blobs or smaller blobs… the days of the “little” server skirmishes are all but over. Transferring “down” to a lower server is not what it used to be.. :P

Aenaos.8160:

Depraved Ambience.7942:

“Pvt. Ambience reporting for duty!

Sir, yes, sir! I understand that WvW is for serious players only, sir! We’re at war, sir! Yes, sir, a soldier does not come into battle without being prepared, sir! Sir, yes, sir, I have entered battle without being optimally geared, sir! No, sir, I do not believe that my opinion matters, sir! Sir, yes, sir, I understand that that makes me a less serious player than you, sir! Sir, no, sir, I do not wish for convenience for my PvE characters, sir! They are worms, sir! Worthless worms, sir! Yes, sir, I realize that the ANet upper brass agree with you, sir! Sir, no, sir, I will not sully WvW anymore with my worthlessness, sir! Yes, sir, I would return the supply on all my toons if I could, sir! Sir, yes, sir, WvW is serious business, sir! Sir, no, sir, WvW is not a game, sir!"

The thing is,there;s limited amount of players that can join each map,and someone joining WvW just for the crafting stations might become the reason that a player that actually wants to do WvW stays out waiting in queue.

hmm.. did you see my note up a few notes? I see a lot more people standing around doing NOTHING at spawns and Citadel than I ever did at any crafting stations in WvW. I waited for a long time to get into EB the other night only to find a bunch of people doing nothing at the EB spawn.. and even more doing nothing in the Keep but standing around… While other people were out fighting the zergs. I watched as calls went ignored by these people… Please don’t try to tell me that any crafting station usage could possibly compete with these afk deadbeats…. :P

It is finally done for me regardless of all this rhetoric. I have lost ALL interest in WvW.

I will now just focus on building my guild in PvE. It was a fun run but now even my guild missions will be PvE

omg… I’ve played this game almost since it came out. WvW for over 2 years… Ranger for most of the time. Fine tuned this pewpewpew to have some nasty damage and backline support. I go into EB and join a squad and am promptly kicked out for being a Ranger. Seems they wanted only people who could tank, heal, help survive.. and so on.. of course Ranger/Druid can’t do that can it… Frankly I’m not sure how Ranger is self serving but that’s what I was told…. ???

I am in BP, attempting to get into one of the Host servers squads. Shifting between annoyed and just sadly humoured… I mean it’s not like we get gold for winning the week. It’s a game, it’s a game, it’s a game… then again maybe it’s reality? :P

I’m not a member of the CD community, tried to get on the site but even trying to register gets me an error so that didn’t work.

Just curious if other people that have been “pugged” up into the “better” servers have encountered this sort of thing.

So totally out of trying to get with groups in WvW unless my guild group is in and running I guess.. I mean seriously.. holy freakin crp…

More and more and more I see people standing around in keeps and spawn with commander(s) trying to get things done and asking again and again for help on tag. Prime example today with people hitting two sides of fully upgraded SM. About 10 people hanging around inside red keep, another handful at spawn.

Frankly I believe a lot of this has to do with this huge unbalancing that’s happened mostly due to the current way the score is handled. (don’t ask me for a scoring solution because I don’t have one). I have heard reports of a server or two “sandbagging” to get to lower tiers then pounding the lower servers. 3rd party information with no proof, but it’s being talked about and possible.

People wanted more population on maps and have now got it. They have also got a lot of apathy from many seasoned players as well. ANet, with these reward track changes, has made it so that once people are finished with WvW for the day/night many of them just sit at spawn moving their characters around now and then while the reward track winds down and get all the points they can while doing nothing.. until it’s not worth standing there any longer then they free up a slot on the map.

and so on and so on…

WvW is definitely more broken than before and as the OP says… “are there no close matchups anymore?”. I’ve seen a couple here and there… but mostly as presented, it’s one and sometimes two servers pounding the ‘h’ out of the lower servers with double and sometimes triple points by the end of the week.

DBL as it was was terrible for WvW yes. DBL as it was just before going back to Alpine was pretty good. Much easier to get around. They really should get rid of the garbage in the middle of the map so we can have a open fighting ground though. Not that people really fight in the open much. Most of the fight we have been encountering lately involve people on the other servers running the other way on an open field, but fighting from behind a wall, or when they are pretty sure they have bigger numbers. (Not kidding about this!). From what I can see Alpine is slowly becoming the “desert” land it was before HoT came out… it’s so much easier to roam around now since many people seem to have dropped back out of WvW.

HoT “killed” a lot of WvW due to the way the Guild Halls were linked to everything and people literally had to leave WvW to do a huge amount of farming etc just to get their halls upgraded to be useful for WvW claiming etc. The original DBL layout didn’t help either. But the way it’s laid out now is much better. Considering the fact that except for in EB (and even then people hide in keeps and towers still), people don’t really fight in the so called open fields of the Alpine BL’s I don’t see what all the whining is about against the DBL’s. They truly aren’t that bad. Most people still just go to EB unless they want to come back and defend something on their BL, otherwise the Alpine maps are not super populated a lot of the time.

Go DBL!

@Teon: Kaineng… until now you have always been the enemy! haa… Except for the people I know in game I have no idea who is on what server when I’m in there. Just running around looking for groups and fights.. and yes, there’s lots of action. Seriously all this talk about 1st, 2nd, 3rd… really? Do people really care? I don’t.. I just wanna find people to stomp…. and sadly, be stomped by of course! :P

gennyt.3428:

Was the squad near full? Because I doubt any pug blob is in such a position to be so picky about bodies, especially with the mode in such decline. Then again you could just be playing with the clueless, never any shortage of that.

Squad was big but not full. At the end of the day other people here are right. Forget the squad/zerg… do your own thing.

I think it’s funny though.. get a Rev, Guard, or even a light class.. we don’t care if you know how to play it, or if you die a crapload more than that Ranger who does know… just get the class we want to see and join us… otherwise go roam. ah no worries.. that’s what I will do and I promise to shut up now about this because I gotta find some fun here somewhere… sadly it means a LOT less time in this whole game than I used to play.

PvE is boring. PvP doesn’t interest me really. Running with groups and having some fun together I like so like I said in one of my earlier posts, I’ll have to pick times when the people that I know, and know me, are online, otherwise it’s roaming time if I want to play at all.

I am ‘out of wvw’ until/unless this is fixed. As a high xp player in wvw I’ve seen things go in different directions and dealt with them. This one is a show stopper for me.

oh my goodness… well here is my half cent worth… cause that’s all it’s worth… It’s all to little too late… Other than people posting in here I really doubt that many people care about name plates anymore. I could be wrong of course, but I for one who wanted some sort of ability to see who was on what server more easily simply don’t care anymore. I know who my BP peeps are and I run with them. The other folks, nice as they are, typically do their own thing and I have no idea if they are on DB or Kain, and like I said.. it really doesn’t matter.

Turn plates off and just give me red for the enemy for all I care now. No PPT, No score, just give me some SMALL fun battles with my peeps and all is now good.

That’s just a quack in the screen

ah the loot system… hey I get more ascended drops on my alt account with very low magic find (around 70 I think), than I do on my main account with over 220 magic find… and I even play my main more, obviously. I really don’t understand how this ‘drop’ system is determined… and definitely think that the magic find percentage is smoke and mirrors and doesn’t give you any real chance of anything better than the new players. From what I’ve seen we all get equal chance of garbage AND good stuff… but mostly garbage.

Yes, sadly it’s not so good so far. I’ve had to completely turn off the Team Chat in my message box simply due to people chattering about nothing important now that they can yack between bl’s. I did see one or two messages by people saying they need help somewhere, and saw responses that said something like, “sorry can’t come”… then just a lot more chatter.

Unfortunately it’s not working well… and ESPECIALLY because people do NOT say where they are posting from… and don’t say just ask them … because if you think that’s efficient then you’re not a WvW person ‘on the move’.

Ben K.6238:

If you don’t want to use team chat, use map chat. If you don’t want to see team chat, turn it off.

There’s no sense at all in reverting team chat to its prior state of being a redundant clone of map chat.

I agree… and the map chat should have that ridiculous spam restriction removed from it.

Edit Note: I have removed Team chat from my msg box now.

@Diku – +1 !

Teon.5168:

lil devils x.6071:

Balthazzarr.1349:

So we went to the FA Host at the beginning of this all. Immediately people were recognizing the ‘new’ people and welcoming us big time. I met new people, made new friends and fighting buddies and so on. Cool right? Now we’re off to another Host… but now it’s 4 servers in one. So far I see groups running separately, (calling for help when needed etc of course, but separate). So far as I’ve tried to communicate with these new people I have heard mostly… …. … So it should be interesting to see how the next while plays out. At this point it looks like most of my WvW runs, when I do them, will be mainly with my guild group since I see so many smaller factions staying mostly to themselves. Yes it’s very early in the new link-up so I hope something changes.

The problem with linking lower tier servers together vs being linked with a higher tier server is often the players that wanted a higher level of communication and organization already left the lower tier servers in search of that a long time ago and are consolidated at higher tiers. So even if you get sheer " numbers" from linking, you will not have the unity and enhanced game play that comes with the higher level organization.

Yea, because we all know that the higher tiers have much more skilled and organized wvw players.

“Unity and enhanced game play”???? I think you’re actually serious…….

/facepalm

I think you missed his point regarding the “higher level of communication”. I understand what he’s saying and don’t take offense to it. Having played mostly on low tier server for the last few years I CAN say that there is a very good level of communication amongst people for the most part. However, so far with the current grouping of our 4 servers I’m still seeing small factions of people (groups of 10-15) running together on the BL’s. I suppose the blobs are on EB since it’s queued constantly so far. Oh the higher servers you definitely have more people that are used to getting into TS (higher level of communication for sure) and following a commander in big group fights because you really need that quick communication. On the lower tier servers you don’t have TS being used quite as much except for certain guild groups and so on. It’s not a slight against us low tier servers.. it’s just the difference I’ve noted myself.

It should be interesting to see how it works out for us over the next several weeks. I hope there is more synergy than what it has started out and I’m pretty sure there will be. But since we are now totally confirmed that we will most likely be meeting new people every time the re-linking is scheduled there (in my mind) will be much less emphasis on making relationships with other servers and simply running WvW just because we like it. I, for one, don’t look at or care about the score. I go in for a bit of fun now. With this most recent re-linking there really is ZERO ownership for me in the borderlands. Since I am on a “slave” server I can’t even get supplies from Citadel!

So I will just go in with my friends and have what fun I can have when I do… that’s really all that’s left now that I have no home server to fight for. :P

Mizukiaki.8590:

Balthazzarr.1349:

AysonCurrax.3254:

Balthazzarr.1349:

oh hey… seriously while you’re at it, since the wvw goodies are account wide now you should also make the gear that we buy from the wvw vendors account bound instead of soulbound. Matter of fact all gear should be account bound. I really don’t understand the purpose of making armor and weapons soulbound.

Well, while you are at it, might as well get rid of the trading post as well, considering it will be rendered mostly useless since you cant sell your account bound goodies on there anymore.

You never could sell account bound stuff on the TP.

You can, don’t forget there is soulbound after you put it on your character.

lol… you are not correct. If it is either “account bound” or “soul bound” you can NOT sell it on the TP. Never have been able to… that’s why it’s called ‘account bound’.. as in.. bound to YOUR account.

NOTHING that is in the TP is account bound. Check it out next time you’re in there.

ok I missed something… why on earth did you change the amulet so all you could put on it were useless infusions?

Kylden Ar.3724:

All I know is that with the linking and constant change of our ‘partners’ my WvW Roaming alliance pretty much died… most of both guilds quit the mode because they did not like the almost constant large zergs.

For people that like the big fights, it’s great, but for us smaller scale players… meh.

Yes and it’s a sad thing that ANet will not make any changes in this regard. The smaller servers will continue to be moved from place to place as “filler” for the hosts. People will continue to drop off until all that’s left really are the ones that want to zerg/blob.

What this tells me is that is what ANet’s vision of WvW is. Not roaming groups, not small defense teams that can actually be effective now and then… but just blobs fighting blobs.

I’ve said it before… I used to spend at least 95% of my online time in WvW… now it’s more like 25% and dropping… I truly truly don’t have any investment in “protecting the land” anymore. It seems all anyone cares about is PPT and PPK. Meh, if all I want is to kill things period then PvE is always there… ugh… but it’s ok when friends are on to run with for fun.

jeez … to all the RP folks… Make a SQUAD! Do your RP in the Squad.. you can have up to 50 people in it… if you are the one that made the squad then you can drop squad and rejoin to remove the tag. It’s not that hard… it’s respectful of the others that really don’t want to see all the RP stuff. RP is fine… but really is it that difficult to do it in your OWN space?

You don’t even have to use emotes when you’re in squad…

Just enter something like: -xyz hugs xxx-

easy stuff…

or a fully decked out Guild Hall complete with private rooms and beach parties… ahhh…

Hey! If I see you online I will msg and join you if you are in there.

Leaa.2943:

morrolan.9608:

Leaa.2943:

Both options are kitten. If one home border is the desert border it means that one server will have a very kittenty 3 months and their rank can even be effected by it.

If we have desert borders for 3 whole kitten months is just gonna make people stop playing during those 3 months and many might drop and not come back when alpine is back again.

I still can not for the love of god understand why it is not obvious that the alpine border is working as intended? Why do we have to be forced to go through this whole thing again where pop drops and why do you even think wvw will survive this? It have been tried already.

Desert border is not what the majority want. Your voting was so wrongly made, and you should just have put up vote either desert or alpine. Period.

Why 1 or the other? That would not be smart and simultaneous provides the options for both anyway. The previous poll was fine. As for population dropping, vote for the simultaneous option that was everyone gets what they want.

Because it is a punishment to get the desert border and the server that has to play it for 3 months will have a empty border, whilst those with alpine wont.
This has nothing to do with rewardtracks, we already showed very clearly when DB came out that we do not like the map because it offers no tactics, it is only a empty huge map with towers and keeps that have no synergy and noone could care less if they loose anything. Not to mention we have no waypoints to use except for two in the north IF we own rampart.

When DB came out the veterans of wvw piled up on EB. They did this for a reason, they hated the DB map. People said, oh well tough luck, the new players will take over, but as we knew they wouldn’t because to be very frank here, they do not have the knowledge and noone wants to follow a commander that know nothing about what he is doing and wiping his group over and over or turning the map in to a pvd train. That is not wvw to anyone. So the border went empty. And the ques to EB was huge. Because veterans that did not leave the game went there, and the other players that was suppose to build up the new wvw, went to EB because there is were the fights were, and this is also were the reward track will even be a disadvantage to those that have the DB map. If the tracks was what brought it back ,then players goes were the rewards are.

So again DB maps will hurt wvw once again. But this time i don’t think it will survive. It barely did the last time. And 3 months is a looooong time in WvW. Rememeber golem week? Was ONE week, and that is the second thing in wvw history that hurt it badly. Now 3 months…..

The DBL’s don’t work like they used to. MUCH easier to get around in them… no barricades. The WP’s work exactly like they do in Alpine now. If you own it (even all three keeps) and the upgrades are there then you have all three wp’s available to you.

In the last few weeks before Alpine came back there was a lot more activity in the DBL’s. At least on the FA/BP linking there was. We had people running through DBL’s a lot from all sides and some decent fights along the way even with the rolly landscape. Having all WP’s available was very helpful and so on and so on.

When the DBL comes back to a server near you please try it out objectively. You might find it’s not the devils playground it first was…