Guild Wars 2

New balance changes ….new contents…New armos…new maps, but not even a word about Jaggernaut and Deadly Mixture traits bugs. ( introduced with the last feature patch)

Are they gonna be fixed someday…in someway?

glock.6590:

I’ve seen so many engis in PvP trying to say " I’m not turret but triple kit" and yet use their crate in the first 3 seconds of the fight.

So I’m just gonna remind you that the use of the supply crate in 1v1 makes you a turret engineer. Like it or not but its the truth . Usually the engineers that lack skill will use the crate as " I win button " in 1v1 and the good engis will save it for team fight or a support utility for their allies.

Sincerly thief, that has been crated in 1v1 in the first 3 seconds by bad engis.

I had you tell me that recently. Do you remember what happened?

Well let me remind you. I slash danced on your corpse, while you were waiting to repawn, as I capped the point. Call me a gadgeteer, call me a turret engineer, call me a kit master. I could care less. I am just glad knowing the fact that I smashed you repeatedly, and that is part of your ire for the profession.

immobilize is fine, I just hate it when I get immobilized in the air and can’t do kitten while im getting attacked

Using a real life comparison to justify a balance change lost me instantly and left me shaking my head. By that logic, grenade kit would have to have a shorter range then rifle and so on.

The comparison to guardians auto attack on staff though, has sold me on backing this idea.

Riccardo.7254:

1- Warrior
2- Guardian
3- Mesmer/Thief
4- Guardian/Warrior
5- Mesmer/Thief/Ele (depends most on the race)

Aww, poor engineer. They have 3 threads about the engineer being OP on the first page of the balance sub forums, but don’t make this list.

So anything that is challenging to fight against with your chosen build/profession isn’t balanced. Anything you can easily beat with your chosen build/profession is balanced…

Pretty much sums up every thread on this forum doesn’kitten

I understand that some toys like the Èxecutioners Axe toy are disabled since they can be exploited.But i dont see the point of keeping Magic carpet and Broom disabled for use in WvW aswell.Can they be re-enabled so people can actually use them ? Speaking for myself i mostly WvW..it would be great to actually be able to use this item every now and then.

Stat increases would ruin small scale stuff for those people who prefer to that kind of stuff. So I don’t know how you can make Outnumbered useful, yet keep it from being OP.

Maybe stuff like +5 supply or something along those lines, but nothing that makes a group or individual players an advantage on the pvp side of things.

Engineers have plenty of access to burning. The toolbelt ability on flamethrower is already a burn aswell.
What Napalm by design was, was an area denial. Punish enemies for walking through the fire field. Ofcourse the single tick of burning, negated completely if the target had any amount of -condition duration, never really warded anyone. The tiny amount of damage that no procs doesnt change this.

Personally i wouldve liked it if Napalm inflicted cripple. Now it would actually give cause not to go through the field, and can be used by the Engineer also a means to catch up to people trying to escape, by napalming their exit route.

Nope allows bad playerd to contribute to the level of other zerker playing there class well. No step up for burst, no positional req, they do it from range and on 8 sec cd.

dancingmonkey.4902:

ArchonWing.9480:

Ugh, so most of the buffs don’t even work, and we’re just testing the old flamethrower basically? :o

No. It is probably just the numbers in the tool tips and hero panel that do not work. At least that that is the case with deadly mixture. Juggernaut gives the might. So your definitely dealing more damage. The only possible stat missing could be the 200 toughness. It is possible that it is simply not showing up in the hero panel. I have not tested it yet though. So it is equally possible that the defense on the trait is not working as well.

deadly mixture bugged tooltips it’s 100%. Glame jet hits harder though.

Jaggernaut additional toughness works ONLY if u got some other tougness additions:
-bloodlust buff (wvw)
- Strenght In Numbers (guardian trait)
- buff food.

So it doesn’t work in:
-wvw (without listed buffs: sin, bloodlust)
- Obsidium Sanctum
-pvp (without sin)

When you get an elixir that gives you a random RnG chance for one of the elites you call trash or the worst warrior elite, you call me.

Was playing around with a flamethrower build after last patch buffs to it, but noticed the juggernaut trait doesn’t increase the toughness.. could some confirm this is also happening with them ?!

I can also confirm this. I thought it just wasn’t updated on the stats screen.

Yup it is a problem. As well there are some buggy things with deadly mixture. It is only effecting the Flame jet. The funny thing it, when you apply the trait, it lowers Flame jets damage in the tool tip by 15%. Although in actuality it has proven to increase the damage

That lack of 200 toughness and lack of 15% damage on 3/5 skills is a problem.

Just tried new patch and yea, pretty much all traits that are related to flame thrower are either bugged overall or just have bugged tooltip. Both Juggernaut and Deadly Mixture have have some sort of bug related to them.

Juggernaut doesn’t show any toughness gain and Deadly Mixture shows lower damage on auto attack with flamethrower.

I did notice that when you are downleveled you do get Juggernaut bonus but on level 80 areas it just doesn’t show.

Ive got all these and two other bugs i noticed listed, sorted and detailed on this post if you guys wanna help me support it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/List-of-Engineer-bugs-Traits/first#post4387433

same here

no armor or toungess bonus on Jaggernaut trait while using flamethrower in WvW(when u got no bloodlust) or PVE or Obsidium as nihasa mentioned https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/List-of-Engineer-bugs-Traits

when u got bloodlust in wvw u are getting tougness from trait

and deadly mixture when traited shows some weird numbers i traited it untraited, traited untraited and in the ned flame jet tooltip has risen without it …

Bran.7425:

Can I have your stuff?

No I owe a friend some gold and I might come back in 6+months.

I can confirm this too.

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

What? really, nerf retaliation more? for wvw?
It has already been nerfed and now you want a nerf to promote the usage of flamethrower that gets buffed and now you are afraid that you do too much damage and the usage might kill you?

And eat that again dumb kid:
http://i.imgur.com/Wd9lhMN.jpg

Cake.1305:

Was playing around with a flamethrower build after last patch buffs to it, but noticed the juggernaut trait doesn’t increase the toughness.. could some confirm this is also happening with them ?!

Yup. All of the traits for FT are bringing up wrong numbers when applied. I sent in several bug reports (join me in doing so, please). I did learn that deadly mixture is in fact giving a 15% damage buff to Flame jet, although it reads as if it gives a 15% nerf.

Was playing around with a flamethrower build after last patch buffs to it, but noticed the juggernaut trait doesn’t increase the toughness.. could some confirm this is also happening with them ?!

Did you notice the new napalm dmg isn’t boosted by the trait either?

Great Update thank you guys just wanted to point out a small oversight on the engi with the increase of the flamethrower auto attack with this update, if you take the trait “Deadly Mixture” increased flame thrower damage by 15% it actually lowers your auto attack to a 15% increase off the old damage modifier ie without trait auto attack says 10x 1910 with my build when I select that trait it says 10x 1480 all the other skills are increased by 15% but the auto attack is lowered. If you guys could fix this bug that would be amazing. Thank you.

-Riddik The Brave

Yup, broken…