Guild Wars 2

No body gives a kitten about that old content. We’re complaining that $49.99 is fair for the base game and expansion, it’s no where near fair for the expansion on it’s own since it doesn’t have $49.99 worth of content in it. Unless I didn’t hear about all the dungeons, races, and classes that they’re adding with this expansion which almost costs the same amount as the game when we first got it with all that content. It’s a clear ripoff and the Anet fanboys will justify the pricing with just about anything they can find.

Jesus christ, spare me indignation.
All I’m asking for is a reduction in price because I genuinely feel that the expansion is not worth 45 euros.

Also this: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/ANet-you-have-a-moral-duty-here

they basically telling veteran players ‘’kitten you, we value new costumers more than you guys cuz we are greedy and need more money’’ and shoving our mouths with core game that we bought 1-2 year ago. no extra slot, no benefits, nothing you pay 50 dollars and get core game and heart of thornnes and not release the HoT expansion separately which would be 20-30 dollars cheaper and no money is not the issue here people can afford 50 dollars but not what they did…great anet what a kitten move
sorry …got little mad there

I am not buying either, unless Anet thinks it over.
So, us, veteran players get a big NOPE in the face, to put it lightly, while the new players get the core AND the expansion, for pretty much the same price the core used to be. And the old players don’t get a “bonus” like the new ones.
GG Anet.

Imo for veterans should be delux for 50$

InfinitytheSoulWarden.5963:

we dont need them. THEY NEED US!

we dont need them. THEY NEED US!

Semantically, Beorn is right. For all practical purposes, I’m with OP. There is no way I will pay full-game price for an expansion. I said long ago, 20, maybe as high as 30. But not 50.
This is downright insulting.

YEEEES this is a very fair price for people who already own the core game. but also there should be a regular version for people who don’t own the core game. I would keep the system now but add that first option from Rich Fuel’s picture

look at this pic, no 1 would complain if it would be like this

I’d be happy with this compromise as well.

You say the base game is an free bonus for new players. Well, you need to offer a free bonus to your veteran playerbase as well, as without them, you’d have no reason to make an expansion in the first place.

The Revenant is part of the expansion. We shouldn’t have to pay extra to experience that part of the expansion. In GW1, when it came out with new professions, extra character slots were part of the package for those campaigns. Other MMOs do the same: new class in an expansion? Here, have an extra character slot.

Add in a character slot at no extra charge and I’ll be happy to spend €45.

+1
fair solution (more with 2 slots maybe, but ok)

Hey Anet Devs,
Don’t get me wrong, I love this game and I admire and respect all your hard work to provide us the best content you possibly can. I’ve been playing this game since launch and personally I can’t complain about the expansion price – 50$ is what expansions cost these days and HoT is totally worth the price, especially considering the fact that you’ve been giving us free content for 3 years.

What I am asking for is to treat your veteran playerbase with respect and to give us a choice – whether we want to buy the xpack with another base game OR with a character slot.

I believe it’s a fair deal and not asking for too much.

This slight change would definitely change the grim moods around the veteran GW2 community and raise your HoT pre-order sale. I’m sure you are aware of the current situation – a lot of people are simply boycotting the pre-order even though they’d gladly put their 50$ (or more) in your pockets at this very moment.
Please, consider giving us a choice. We’d be eternally grateful if you did.

With respect,
Yog Sothothe

But it is a ripoff.
New player: $50 for GW2+HoT
Old player: $10-60 for GW2+$50 for Hot

How is that not a ripoff when there’s no option to purchase just the expansion?

Just ignore the standard/base game that they are advertising, it only affects buyers who don’t have the base game.

Basically, you’re only buying the expansion. The base game is just a freebie for buyers that don’t have the game already.

I agree, totally misleading and in desperate need of a disclaimer or rewording. As of right now, it feels like a rip-off for veteran players. But it isn’t. Anet believes that the upgrade alone is worth $50.

i own the core gw2 for over 2 years now, why must i buy it again to get into HOT

It’s 50 bucks for maybe 10 bucks worth of content.

I’m willing to pay 20 though.

Do I get an extra account then? Since the core is free?

“No, we just take the same amount of money.”

But what am I getting for “Free” – NOTHING. That’s what. I don’t want or need something I can’t use, so don’t try and con me into believing it’s a “bonus”.

Keep your free thing, and give us already current players something we can actually use.

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

To clarify: $50 is the price of the expansion. We included the core game as a free bonus to make it easier for new players to get into it.

To clarify your clarification – that’s BS. And I should add that I spent a good year or two in corporate marketing, so I know precisely what that smells like.

Your claim is obvious and disingenuous spin. The fact is that, however you want to try to describe your decision in order to attempt to justify it (you’ve not succeeded, by the way), what you’re selling is a full, playable package consisting of the game to date plus new content. And you’re spinning it the way you are in order to “justify” not offering existing players an upgrade to the new content at a lower price than that full package.

Will you normally be releasing the update in future on its own (i.e. minus the so-called “free bonus”)? Unlikely.

Will you continue selling the base game for some extended period without HoT alongside the "expansion? Improbable.

In which case, the base game simply and demonstrably isn’t a “free bonus”. It’s a core component of the package. I can’t envisage any independent observer seeing it differently – however ANet try to spin things.

So if we already own the game. We are literally paying full price AGAIN, for a third of the content from the base game…… If. Even a third…. I really hope they take at least one thing there veteran audience says to heart and ’re think there Bull kitten price.

Screwing over loyal customers in the hopes of acquiring new customers, GG

From all the info given so far about the game, I personally don’t feel like it’s worth $50.

That and some of the decisions they’re making:

- Recent news of the difference between ascended and exotics becoming 5% instead of 10%. I never liked your decision in implementing it in the first place, increasing it further… ha… if that wound finally sealed up for me, you’ve managed to rip it open and spry extra bit of salt on it.

- Holding sales a of couple times, selling the game for ~$10 to attract a crowd. Then putting up kitten for the expansion with the core game for “free”… yeah… brilliant move (sarcasm). The only way you can escape this one is by saying, “Oh yeah we only did this for E3, here’s the expansion w/o the core game”, and even then… why not hold yet another sale having gw2 for $10 and the expansion for $20-$30. The way you’ve done it now is just sleazy, even if you later on release a core-less expansion bundles.

Feel free to infract/ban me, that will just nail the coffin of me not ever buying it.

Filed bug report ingame. Says price is $50. Plz fix.

So I have to pay new players account? ô.o

As an existing customer, I feel simply passed over. And don’t want to forget that there is no Characterslot for the new class. Costs around 10 bucks. That are 60 Bucks (about 55€ for an Addon+Characterslot).

Without a release date a bad style is to offer something simple, too.
So we have do understand Anets catchphrases that there is nothing more nothing but a load of HoT air.
/disappointed once more