Im 80% celestial and love it.My build I use most the time is 30/25/0/15/0.Ill have to try the 0/25/25/20/0 one,it looks like it could be good also.
When you say you die 10 times for one kill I don’t think it’s a viable build.
Everyone likes big numbers but it comes at a cost. This isn’t a balanced build as you don’t have any durability nor mobility.I’ve tried posting some necro vids in the past myself but I simply can’t anymore cause there isn’t a viable solo roaming build out there atm. No way you win against a good Ele or a good mesmer these days. Other classes as the Warrior or Guardian (thief) can just unleash everything they got on you and when kitten hits the fan they run away like nothing happened. If you’re lucky to put any condi pressure on them that is, cause they cleanse everything off so easily.
I solo roam with a Celestial hybrid necro and it works great.Fighting a Condi Mez can be a pain sometimes,but we have the best tools to fight them.The rest of the classes aren’t that hard to beat really.
Must get very boring playing on BG now.
Sorry, what gear set makes superior ballista, superior arrow cart, and cannon fire count as 0dps/0people?
The gearset that makes you not run to your buddies every time you start losing a fight. Also nice job taking a screenshot that will fit your argument, the time our zerg and the SoR zerg rolls past that tower.
That’s funny. As this was taking place, I was fighting an oPP s/d thief. There was an add, but he backed off pretty quickly after I kited a bit and I downed the thief. He got rezzed and then proceeded to do his best to run me down with multiples repeatedly. Luckily for me, this was one of those rare times where there were other Mags around me, and I got the stomp I was cheated out of before.
Don’t let them try and troll you.I have been fighting them for months and its always the same thing from them.If you want a good laugh watch their stream and hear them brag about how good they are,when they kill a up level in a 3v1.
They think they are a good BG guild like Riot is,but they fall short of it.
Probably a good 80% of our players are in both RIOT and oPP.
#Knowledge
#ThanksForTheComplimentBro
Hashtag’s really?My kid does that on her Facebook and she is 10.
Sorry, what gear set makes superior ballista, superior arrow cart, and cannon fire count as 0dps/0people?
The gearset that makes you not run to your buddies every time you start losing a fight. Also nice job taking a screenshot that will fit your argument, the time our zerg and the SoR zerg rolls past that tower.
That’s funny. As this was taking place, I was fighting an oPP s/d thief. There was an add, but he backed off pretty quickly after I kited a bit and I downed the thief. He got rezzed and then proceeded to do his best to run me down with multiples repeatedly. Luckily for me, this was one of those rare times where there were other Mags around me, and I got the stomp I was cheated out of before.
Don’t let them try and troll you.I have been fighting them for months and its always the same thing from them.If you want a good laugh watch their stream and hear them brag about how good they are,when they kill a up level in a 3v1.
They think they are a good BG guild like Riot is,but they fall short of it.
Does Mag or BG even solo Roam?Last two days I haven’t got in to any good fights,if I see a solo Mag they just run from me.
opp: roaming = hump cannons and spam 30 seconds of immo
OPP is free bag’s to me,it’s fun to drop that DPS burst Guard.
So they are holding off on fixing Necros cause of some Esport event at PAX?I’m sure the 200 people that care about Esports will get over it.
Really this game will never be at the Esport play SC2 and LoL are at,fix the classes to make the people that play the game happy.
Ya you sure put people down fast. Can you please post your build?
I’m sure its the same build most Condi necros run. 30/30/0/10/0
I love when I fight Condi burst Necos with my Necro,they drop so fast.
They really need to find someone else to run the WvW team,he is just making WvW worse each patch.
so what am I looking at?
I wish I knew myself.
This build is very easy to beat,I fight Vamp MM alot and they go down fast after you take out the healing pet.
That is the right strategy to beat them, but by the time you get it down, the Necro should have been able to put enough damage in to you to have a good chance of winning the fight. While you are going for his pet, he can root you, daze you, fear you, and burn you.
I’m a Neco,I will be doing far more dmg to him lol. Relying on Anet’s Pet Ai to heal you isn’t going to work to well vs people that know how to fight them.
This build is very easy to beat,I fight Vamp MM alot and they go down fast after you take out the healing pet.
It’s funny,Dhuumfire isnt even that good.
The new weapon skins show drop from the new story,not the same old pay for RNG crap.
30/25/0/15/0 with Rampager boots/gloves and shoulder.The Accessory’s are PTV.
@ Rennoko:
Well made vid, as usual. Thanks for that. But i do feel your celestial setup is not cutting edge. I use Celestial, Berserker, Knights and Cavalier with dagger/focus and staff and it absolutely rocks. The direct dmg output is so much higher than with scepter and the control coming from dagger 3 is key to build my play around it.
Basically I am trading 200 condition damage of yours for direct damage close to full berserker power necro and still have 500 condition damage plus 2700 armor.
@ Sororita:
Your playstyle seems to be very close to mine judging by weaponset but I feel your traits suit MM much more than focus on lifesteal without minions. Additionally your stats seem kinda low, despite you having consumables applied.
I have about 3k attack power, 40% critchance, 113% critdamage, 500 condidmg and still 2700 armor. I feel compensating the traited lifesteal with toughness is the better trade off, since the offensive potential is so much higher statwise (and offense is the the best defense).
No offense, just my input and thoughts.
Best regards
Do you have a build you can post?I guess you are 30 in Soul Reaping to have that high Crit DMG.
I run 80% Celestial and my stats unbuffed are 3200AP, 45% crit, 51% Crit DMG with 900 Condi.
See that’s what I’m saying. The above poster said danger off hand is a defensive weapon. I fail to see how a spell that does DMG and blinds and a spell that does DMG and adds multiple conditions is more defensive then a spell that does no DMG and dazes and a spell that does aoe DMG and gives a swiftness boon. I have an off hand dagger and I’ll pick up a focus and try them both out against my oh wh. Nice discussion though. Thanks for the input.
… just wow. I just realized why most of the respectable theorycrafters stopped posting here. My brain cells are dying just from reading this crap.
How does an attack that BLINDS and does less damage than mh dagger auto attack make oh dagger an offensive weapon?
‘adds multiple conditions’… what the kitten is the inherent offensive nature of ‘adding conditions’. The damage part is condition based (it’s rather weak on a power build) and the other condition is kittening weakness.I’m not even gonna go into the difference between ‘offensive’ and ‘direct damage’ (which is not exactly the strength of necro OHs). Not that I’m surprised, but you didn’t even mention the (arguably :P) best dps OH: focus
When you have stacks of bleeds or like when a necro does a condi burst on you it does alot of dmg. The meta right now is all about Condi stacking,so having a weapon that can transfer them back is a good thing to have.
Dagger 4 does the most DMG out of any other Necro OH weapon.
No… unless you transfer enough conditions.
If you’re referring to the skill dmg coefficient: you need to add 50% for every boon removed with Spinal Shivers. And Locust Swarm ticks 10 times or 13 if traited.
Not to mention that Deathly Swarm has a 3 target aoe cap, while all others have 5.
Yeah im counting the condition transfer,its part of the skill.So to me Dagger 4 is very useful in PvP,in PvE I use Warhorn.
Last night I was fighting a Sword War,I let him do his little burst bleed and immobilize stack on me.I hit dagger 4 and he got 20 stacks of bleed and 4 sec of immobilize on him.The same night I ran in to a Condi Engi,he did his pull and stacked his confusion on me.I hit Dagger 4 and he killed himself before he realized he had his confusion on him.If you ran dagger OH you want them to stack Condi on you.Also it acts like a mini epidemic.
If you stack might you don’t need to have super high Condition Damage,800 to 900 is all you really need.With BiP it will get you over 1100 easy.
After playing around around with the new updates,I finely found my new build.I use a celestial back,but the build editor doesn’t have that.
I use Axe/Dagger and never looked back.Dagger OH is just to good to not use were Condi is the new meta.
Dagger 4 does the most DMG out of any other Necro OH weapon.
Celestial is great to use,but that build and food don’t work to well for it.30/25/0/0/15 works the best for it.
Blood is still useless and not worth the points.
I start off with BiP to dagger 4 into axe 2,then right in to DS for fear then Life blast.The DD is good,LB hits for 4-7k.
I like Focus myself,I use it sometimes when im not running BiP.Ive been messing around today with a D/F Blood build,it’s crazys how much Focus 4 hits for up close.
How come Warhammer in its late state did not lagg in 200+ battles? It also had better combatlogs, more skills, more cooldowns, higher aoe caps and is from 2008.
You are 100% right.I never had any type of lag in Warhammer even in the big fights.I don’t think I even had lag in DAoC and that was back in the day playing with a 56k modem.
Thats funny,its the same build I use but two different types of play styles.I go for more DMG with a Condi Spike at the start.Ill have to try this one tonight.
My build I use.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQMQNAnYWlMay2WsRdDG+EC0j3rWAxoCHD1j1hd+QA-j0CBYjCiEEQkFgEBAJfFRjtMsIasqaCy6aYqXJ1aeIaW0pWGA/xA-w
I have hit the door with all my weapons,Ram,Treb,Cat,AC and still at 0.
The trait says Wielding two daggers 25%
Ghastly claws doesnt hit hard at all.
Mine does 7-9k
A scepter 3 with 5+ condi does the same amount on crit in hybrid builds (ok it might scale a bit too strong with power and damage pre condition for a skill on a condi weapon), sooo your point is?
15k is a reasonable “hard hit” from a channel skill in any kind of offensive power build, if you get under 10k damage on a power build with your “bursts”, you are better off doing a condi build with consistent 4~6k dps from poison and bleeds since you can multiply it by 5 with a decent epidemic and do insane stuff on some of the new bosses without defiant via terror builds.
My DMG numbers come from WvW,I dont do PvE much.
There is no point,people said Axe 3 doesn’t hit hard,but it does.
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Ghastly claws doesnt hit hard at all.
Mine does 7-9k
Day one Necro here and I think 0% LF at the start is fine.
IMO if you need full LF to win a 1v1,you should work on your build.It’s about as bad as a Mesmer popping moa morph right at the start.
If you Duel on a SPvP duel server it is the etiquette to start and show you are at 0.In WvW its fair game.
If I can’t get a 2h Axe,ill take a Hammer.It would be so nice to finely use my HoM Hammer skin.
Go with Celestial and have fun doing both at the same time.With the right build you can do 80% of the DMG a power necro can do,along with good Condi ticks,with Bleed ticks around 110-120.
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Starting a Duel with a full LF bar,is looked down on.Most Necro’s will go in to DS to show the other person they don’t have any.
That’s complete bullkitten tbh, if I duel with my necro I’ll be darned sure it’s with full LF. It’s part of the class, it’s what a necro has to negate serious dmg and so on. Unlike a warrior who starts at 0 adrenaline, he can quickly build up his bar by attacking. A necro cannot (and before you say a necro can, no he can’t, only some spells grant LF and it takes a very long time to build up LF outside of killing lots of mobs.). So it is in no way unfair, for a necromancer to start off in 100% LF.
You must not Duel alot on the SPvP duel servers,cause it’s the etiquette.
Also it is very easy to build LF with the right build.If you are a DS necro you spec and use skills that build it fast.I can go from 0 to 50% LF right when a duel starts.
I hope they keep the skins out of BLC’s.
Me too,Pay for RNG is the thing I hate the most about this game.
Looks like my Necro will still being wearing the same armor he has been for over a year.
According to Devon, this is NOT GvG. Instead, it is called “organized, large-scale battles.” That means they’re still planning to implement the best possible GvG mode.
That’s right. ANet is not going to make a GvG mode if only a small proportion of players are going to participate in it, but at the same time they wanted to appease the vocal minority without investing too many resources into it.
So if the GvG community does grow sufficiently, we will probably see a formal GvG mode sometime in the future.
GvG in GW1 is still going strong,I bet it has more players then SPvP in GW2.
This is my build. It has won quite a few duels for me. It focuses on fighting from Death Shroud. I spend most of my time with staff out in general wvw.
However in duels you want to make sure you start with full LF bar. Go immediately into shroud and fight in it till it runs out. Then pop Spectral Armor, and then Lich Form. Fight in Lich Form until you are at 25% health. You must let your life get low, because you want to proc the other Spectral Armor that activates when you are hit below 50% health. These 2 spectral armors will refill your LF bar while you are fighting as a Lich. As soon as you pop out of Lich form, go back into shroud.
If he STILL isn’t dead as your second shroud is getting low, try CCing him and back off. Leave shroud and heal, use marks to kite then switch to D/F to quickly rebuild your LF. Switch to staff and drop marks right before you return to Shroud. Repeat this cycle as much as you can….and if Lich comes off cd then you need to /bow to your opponent because dang that fight lasted too long ;p
but yeah I regularly win 2 and 3v1’s with this build. It’s a awesome combo of tank and heavy crits.
Watch out for chain stun wars/engi’s though. Against these people Lich form is vital. If you don’t kill them in Lich then forget staff because you will need to generate LF like crazy to make up for all the time you are going to spend with your face on the ground.
Starting a Duel with a full LF bar,is looked down on.Most Necro’s will go in to DS to show the other person they don’t have any.
They fixed the dmg bug wile in DS,so now DS last alot longer.The other stuff that people say is a nerf is more of a fix.
Did the new path 1 time,now i’m done and waiting for the next update to come out.
First we get lame looking Ascended Weapons,now it has matching ugly Ascended Armor.
Yeah this whole time gated on Celestial is crap,it took me 2+ months to make the armor and weapons for two of my toons.
Wupwup weapons are the most Time gated item in the game.Wupwup armor is going to be even worse.
My corrupted weapons fit my Norn Necro,I even Reskined my Ascended weapons with them.
You can’t do GvG in GW2,you need to go play GW1 to do GvG.
But you can’t really do GvG in GW1 because 8 man team isn’t really guild. Let’s just call it TvT. You can do GvG in some f2p games.
Sad part is,you can do GvG in EQ1 and that came out in 1998.
You can’t GvG in GW2,if you want to GvG go play GW1.
You can’t do GvG in GW2,you need to go play GW1 to do GvG.
Ahh that makes sense,thank you for the help.
Today I went to My Account and I saw that someone with a TX IP was on my account.I looked up the IP and it was from NCsoft.
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