Guild Wars 2

Well i never farmed charged cores. But I do CoE alot, since its my favourite dung, not because I needed soemthing from there, i just salvage the tokens for ectos.
And I do HotW alot, since I have a HotW recipe, now from my observation I get as much glacial cores from chests in HotW as charged cores from chests in CoE. I dont think these two have different drop rates. Yes lodestones are rather rare (like 1 in 15 paths or so), but charged cores do drop alot.
And im not even using MF gear (since it doesnt apply on dungeon chests).
Again I dont know anything about spark farm, and never claimed that, but if anet really decreased the drop, its because they never supported farming/grinding certain mobs.

EDIT: And that you got only 4 cores after farming CoE for 3 months sounds very unlikely, sorry. but Maybe you are really really unlucky :/ . But I get average 2 cores on 3 paths.

Not everyone who is working on a legendary is whining about every possible thing on the forum.
I am now working on my second legendary (The Dreamer), which I thought requires onyxes, then i learned it doesnt.
I have no respect for ppl who get their legendary through continuous whining on forum.
If you have to whine about something go whine about something that actually matters, like DC in fractals or the fact that HotW bosses have over a zillion hp.

EDIT: i been screwed over too, I bought the precursor for my first legendary a day before the Karka give-away, i lost like 70g on that, yes i was bitter, complained a bit, was mad at anet, but i didnt go on forum whining how unfair it is.

I rlly hope a.net wont listen to whining like this O.o

When i thought Im going for a legendary that requires 100 Onyx lodestones, I went TA 2-3 paths every day and had 9 onyx lodestones after a week, and I didnt think for a second to go whine(“booo onyx stones are 2,5g what will i do mommi”) on forum.

If you have fun playing the game you obtain these items easily than you think, and if you dont have fun, well then dont play it. You will most likely quit after you get your Mjolnir anyway.

EDIT: I rlly think in this game it starts to be common that you whine your way to it, not play your way to it. And you lehova are a great example, dismissing any other arguement as “he has no idea what he is talking about”, when you probably just want sunrise or bolt or something rlly bad and let this cloud your judgment.

Iehova.9518:

I dont know but if they did its because this game is not about farming your as§ off.

ANY high-tier exotic or legendary holder laughs at your statement.

350 charged lodes for Mjolnir, not farming your kitten off, pick one.

None forces you to go for Mjolnir, these high end skins were not meant to be farmed for, and thats why anet improved the drop from dungeon chests while decreasing drop from massively farmed mobs.
Srsly stop whinning about charged cores/stones they have the same drop rate as glacial. = they drop like candy in specific dungeons

All this whining “boo i cant farm 100charged lodestones in one week”, is rlly hillarious, just think long term -.-.

I got yesterday 2 Charged Lodestones in CoE, others got alot cores.
They nerfed drop rate on sparks? I dont know but if they did its because this game is not about farming your as§ off.

Karew.2169:

My group was also affected by the silver mobs spawning and despawning rapidly. It makes it pointless to try to kill them, so you have to work around 5x silver mobs beating you down the entire fight.

Thats not completely true, if you do it smartly you can keep them near boss and AoE them down pretty effectively.
However yes, the main target should be boss not adds.
At least its fun now tho, alot dodging etc, before it was just a “5min afking boss-fight”.

I am not defending rng but with recipe you at least have to invest your time into doing the dungeon every day and its not fun after a while. Precursor drop → sit back and cash in hundreds of golds, i would trade my recipe for a dusk drop any day.

Let me put it like this, rng IS unfair, yet why should recipes be treated differently and everything else stay the same. Precursors arent account bound either, and those are rlly unfair, you get one lucky drop and its 200-400g. With a dropped recipe you at least have to work for it every day to earn the money, you have to do all paths of the dung. The precursor guys just cash in huge chunk of money and move on. The recipe guys would need to do the dung all paths every day for 2 months to get that money!

And as you are saying precursor is a big one-time payment and you have to do NOTHING for it, recipes you have to grind the dung for weeks/months. I had a recipe dropped, but it isnt as awesome as you think I have to grind the dung every day, few times I already passed on the dung cause I was bored of it. Now I got a friend who got Dusk and Lover dropped, now this guy is rlly lucky, he now just needs Karma, and he isnt dependant like me on one dung.

And from a third point of view, think of it this way:
- Yes some make money faster, but that doesnt make YOUR money making any slower
- Those who got recipes have the opportunity to get gold faster
- Those who need specific combination of stats have the opportunity to buy those

Making recipes account bound would harm 2 groups of people and one group wouldnt get any better

SO why ruin game for others just bcs you havent had a recipe dropped yet

Tallis.5607:

MrGorkajuice.8391:

people who are unwilling to pay real money for virtual item should just be happy they have the option of getting it with gold AT ALL, rather than complaining that they can’t afford them

I am Tallis and I approve this message!

Word. If you enjoy the game, you could support it now and then by buying a few gems. And if you dont like the game why do you want gems in first place.
Truth is at the game launch the price of gems was ridiculously low and everyone was suddenly so surprised when the price gone up…
And no I am no big spender, I spend like 10EUR per event.

I have to second this. (And Im at level 28). Different difficulty levels are pretty nice and support competitive game-play, but not a INFINITE amount.
Let me say that lvl 11 is about as difficult as lvl 15. You are just splitting community like this, plus I cant play fractals with friends that dont play as actively as me.(Yes I can, but we mostly just go another dung rather then leveling each friend i know through the 28 levels)
There should be only 5-10 difficulties, with HUGE difficulty jumps, then we wouldnt need so many levels. Lvl 2 would be significantly harder than lvl 1 etc.
In the end we would still have different difficulties, and each could find the right difficulty for himself, and it would also encourage us more to help our friends level up, unlike levelling them through dozens of levels…

The extremely high tax on gem/gold conversion is very reasonable. This conversion is for people who don’t want/cant spend real cash on gems, or for people that have too much real cash and want some in-game money.

Its NOT meant to support power trading and its not meant to be a gold mine. Therefore 25% is pretty much on spot, I’d make it even 40%.

Funset.7893:

I think CET is fine since it covers bigger territory and population in Europe. Ppl that live west of CET can just -1 from the current CET, and ppl that live east can +1. Simple…
Also i think servers are located in CET country?! Not sure about this one tho.

Even tho this is true. GMT is the so to say “correct” time, that everyone (At least everyone in Europe, dunno about US) learns in school etc.

We should be able to put Agony on HotW bosses, that’d be fun, each tick millions of hp gone.

I live in a CET country, but i think the times should be in GMT

Eh why do you want those PoIs so bad o.O, they dont count into any achievement whatsoever

Yeah I do remember. But those achievement points got hotfixed within a day or two! This is a known bug for months, and no official response on that.

zencow.3651:

I’ve never spammed CoF1 so I can’t confirm 100% but I would be inclined to say yes. Rotating between HotW1 and CoF1 however I can fully confirm since that’s what I farmed mostly after Arah farm nerf for my BiFrost.

Sad truth is Anet has too many other things to worry about before achievement points even when the research has been fed to them.

Actually if they have time to fix minor exploits that save literally 1minute of your time (e.g. last seal on Cliffside Fractal, wall jump on Ascalonian Fractal), Im pretty sure they could find time to fix this too.

EDIT: And its not just Simin that makes the path disgusting, boring and unrewarding. Just think of the Grenth boss before Simin, who designs Bosses like that…. just running from one spot to another for 10-15min and killing XX wraiths…
And the whole path is too long, about 2,5x longer than p3 and 2x longer than p1 and 2

And we didnt do spark running we DPS’ed Simin down. (5th spark filled on 50%, then full dps on one go), took us long time to get the damage needed tho.

zencow.3651:

I’ve already done some research on this ages ago. Feel free to update it with your own findings. The only tested paths that award progression are CM1, TA up, SE3, CoF1, HotW1 and CoE3. Skipping does not affect things in anyway.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Semi-official-update-on-Hobby-Dungeon-Explorer/first#post833697

Yeah i remember this topic was here once before, but a.net obviously hasnt noticed it.
OK that kind of matches with my research so far, if you do CoF p1 5 times on one day, do you get 5 points?

Dude I’m not a masochist, when we finally slain Simin, i promised to myself never to do that path again. I dont mind doing any other Arah path (1-3), but p4 is just bleh.

Since i want to help fix this broken achievement ill simply keep posting here my tests.

Did AC full run, not a single of the three paths counted into Hobby Dungeoneer.

LOL a.net c’mmon this achievement is so broken, it makes me laugh.

Today I only did HotW p1 so far, and it counted!! Even tho I did it yesterday and it counted, so now i have 3 dungs in the achievement, 2 points for repeating HotW p1, and one point for CoF p1.

CoE submarine+teleporter, CoF p2 and HotW p2 and p3 dont count. O.o

Do you have any idea whats going on, or is the achievement just some random jackpot.

fourpoundburrito.1698:

Stay away from p4 man, it’s brutally long and then it will probably bug out at the very last boss.

It is a painful and buggy path, that normal people wont do again once they finish it. Yet the completion is worth the Title.
And regarding the known bug of last boss not spawning, we didnt experience that bug thanks god. Cant imagine doing this 4hrs long path again bcs Bloodstone bugged out.

PainShot.7154:

This achievement is buged, as easy as that. Just do dungeons and hope it count.

Thought so, oh well thats how it goes in games where minor exploits get prioritized over major bugs.

swiftpaw.6397:

well I can tell you that every time I have done it, we had a set strategy and didn’t care for DPS. We coordinated everything in Vent and had the necro poison when necessary. We usually run tanky setups. Yes, the sparks are a little glitchy, but there is a way to counter this. We have two people with specific jobs, and have the boss taken away from the sparks. Anyone who takes spark agro leads them back to the statue/thing in the middle and runs around it in a clockwise rotation until all sparks are in place. even if the spark misses, if everyone who has a spark on them runs in the same direction, they go in fast. Another thing we do is to put in only 4 sparks first and leave the last one. So that for the next time, only one spark is needed to be kited in.

Even if that is true, most groups just DPS Simin down like we did, cause its faster and easier (if you have the dps). The boss isnt working as it should! And saying the fight is not about DPS is a lie, there are other ways i guess, but the DPS-way gets her down the fastest(on one go after first disappear).

Lorana.2468:

im guessing it counts each dungeon rather than each dungeon path.
which means doing 1 path in 5 different dungeons should give it to you each time.
it’s a very odd achievement anyhow, i’ve never really bothered to work it out, despite having 100 points from it.

Yeah I guess, yet CoE didnt count at all, so even if it counted each dung once, i should have 3 and not 2 dungs there.

swiftpaw.6397:

This boss is less about damage and more about strategy.

Actually thats wrong, the boss is all about damage and nearly no strategy, at least for now.

When we did Simin we simply took as offensive builds as possible, we had mesmer, condition necro, condition thief, me(ranger) and a full berserker warrior. We dps’ed Simin down before she could disappear (after the first disapear at 50%).

There was definitely little strategy involved, we just had to bring the highest dps possible.

No that is wrong, I did HotW p1 first, right after i finnished Dungeon Master, and it counted, then i did p2 and 3. In CoF i started with p1 and it counted then i did p2 and it didnt count. CoF p3 i did last time like 2 months ago.

Can someone explain how it exactly works? Finished my Dungeon Master finally yesterday.

Since then I did HotW full run (only p1 counted), CoE submarine and teleporter (neither counted), CoF 1+2, only (p1 counted).
So i did 7 dungeon paths, yet hobby dungeoneer shows only 2.

After Simin there was some optional event that we skipped (thats probably what youre talking about).

We did P4 today and didn’t encounter any bug at final boss and finnished without problems. However Simin was a real pain! Took us about 90minutes till we finally got her down.

Pets are just horrible and need BIG buffs, yet rangers themselves deal huge on-target damage, while being quite durable.

Zenyatoo.4059:

A mursaat one.

Oh yeah, that would be so awesome!

morphemass.2850:

Bartho.7896:

The whining will continue forever.

The worst thing about this thread is that it is so general in its complaints that it detracts from the parts that ARE a real issue. Some precursors are overpriced and unreachable for the majority. Some components are overpriced and unreasonable to farm and thus are unreachable for the majority.

Legendaries though, in general are quite obtainable for the majority over the course of normal play. The problem is that few people want the cheaper ones though and so choose to generalize.

Doing so is unlikely cause Anet to view the real issues with any sympathy and eventually all such complaints will just be dismissed as “whining”.

Yes but the precursors and lodestones that are overpriced, are overpriced bcs of a higher demand, not bcs they would drop less. I still see much more Twilights/Sunrises in LA more than any other legendary, even tho those two are more expensive than most other legendaries.

Yeah G/hour varies too much lol…
I make about 30G/Day, sometimes over 40G, sometimes 20G, depends how much i play that day.

Iehova.9518:

Puandro.3245:

Why is our group getting punished for being too fast. This is bullkitten.

Being good is now an exploit because apparently dungeons are tuned for tunnel-visioning 5-signet scrubs in MF gear and 0 combat awareness.

Word. Its something that the whiners pushed through, yet they dont play dungs anyway.

Parthis.2091:

Bartho.7896:

No point of talking with you about this. You want the legendary so much, that you cant see how more nerfs would just hurt the game long term.

The way to talk about this is to drop the “it should be unreachable by the majority, it should be rare” mindset.

That is your opinion, and not one shared by most or backed up by Anet.

I’m not asking for nerfs; i’m asking for alternatives to mindless grind.

Now you are mad that you dont have a legendary and others have. Yet if a nerf would come in place and you could afford one, the people you call elitits would be able to afford 5 or 6.
And that would just cause another wave of whining, that some can have only one legendary while others are walking around with a half dozen legendaries.
A casual player will never have as much ingame wealth as a hard core player, no matter how easy you make to obtain the stuff. The whining will continue forever.

Just CoE.
AC, CM, TA, SE, CoF, HtW are too easy.
Arah and Fractals are plagued by various bugs that take all the joy out of the dungeon.

That leaves only CoE, a dung that requires you to be good at dodging, dung that has barely any exploits or bugs, dung that brings several interesting mechanics that you wont see in any other dung. Yes CoE is a masterpiece.

Yeah I dont know exactly the time(might be 90 min, might be 2hrs), but if you run 4 dungeon paths very fast, youll get DR on the fifth one. Its freaking annoying!

No point of talking with you about this. You want the legendary so much, that you cant see how more nerfs would just hurt the game long term.

Just to point out, already now you can see a lot of these “unreachable legendaries” especially the mot expensive ones like twilight/sunrise in LA.
I actually doubt legendaries will be wielded by just 5% community. In one year I fear over 20% of active players will have them, and it will get annoying, seeing everyone swinging the same weapon.
They already made legendaries a lot easier, you can make much more money now(more money than was the increase in % on prices), and karma is now the easiest thing on whole legendary, while 2 months ago ppl had problems of getting so much karma.
Yet you still find new things to whine about.

Zumy.6318:

To the guy with Kudzu:
the mats needed for Kudzu are pretty cheap compared to other gifts :-)
If you want to know what is expensive, look in the signature

Yet i didnt feel the need to go for the most expensive one.
That was the point of my post, first off all legendaries ARE reachable, some are harder than others, mostly bcs of higher demand. If you cant/dont want to spent so much time farming for a GS, you have plenty of possibilities of a cheaper, yet still pretty legendary.

Evolved husk is the reason why p2 is faster than p1. just l2p.
Destroyer is annoying and is the reason why p3 is the longest, yet still not as long as you think.

Path 2 is like 5-10min faster than p1, takes some brains to do it fast tho.
P3 is long, but not THAT long, id say 10min longer than p1.

But yeah im VERY disappointed in how LAZY a.net is with fixing bugs, how on earth can it take 3 weeks to fix a path that worked perfectly fine for months!

Ofc its not legitimate. Why are the lodestones so expensive? Bcs more ppl want twilight/sunrise than any other legendary. If twilight(and Dreamer) would be ugly, im pretty sure onyx price would be comparable to glacial. Demand makes the price. The problem is not that charged lodestones would drop less than glacial, the problem is that charged are more desired, bcs more ppl like legendary GS than any other legendary weapon. Therefore the higher price on GS is legitimate.

And if you are upset about lodestones, go for a legendary that doesnt require them! There are plenty of legendaries that need no lodestones at all.
God you ppl want everything on a silver platter.

Unreachable? So why do so many ppl have it already, srsly its not that hard. I got my legendary(Kudzu) few days ago. I NEVER did power-trading, and didnt farm much either. Got everything through doing dungeons regularly for three months.

Srsly stop complaining, even if you dont farm and dont powertrade it takes just few months to get a legendary weapon. I would even think of making precursors harder to get, that Lost Shores give-away was very lame.

Hey,

Here are bunch of awesome ideas you’ll surely implement.

There is no question that the next event rewards have to top this event. So lets award 100 Icy Runestones to everyone who logs in during xmas.

For completion of the final xmas event you should give a “Keg of Liquid Karma” 550k karma (825k with your boost from gemshop). And of course a precursor of the players choice.

Just keep rewarding whiners, and screwing over your real players who worked hundreds of hours for the same thing.

Good Job

Yeah its pretty sad how anet is giving everything to the whiners who spent more time whining on forum than actually playing and working towards a legendary.

No matter how high the chance was, fact is that the precursors dropped about 50% on price. When actually only Dusk, Dawn and maybe Legend and Hunter were overpriced. All other precursors had either the right price (150-250g) or were underpriced.

Now since anet decided to hand over 25% of a Legendary on a silver platter, the price on most precursors is laughable. Hell, most precursors cost now less than 100 Icy Runestones lol….

So basically precursor that used to be cca. 25% of the legendary, is now 5-10% of the actual legendary. Now you can argue on the RNG, but you cant argue with the fact that Precursor is now by far the easier final “gift” for Zommoros. From hardest to easiest after one single event is always wrong!

I wish anet would have sticked to rewarding the 20-slot bag and the Earring only, those were pretty nice rewards, and actually made up for your time. So what will be next? Clovers dropping out of xmas presents? Cant wait to see more depreciating of others work.

Hey, if interested pm me in-game please, we are missing one last for f7. We are on Europian server.