Guild Wars 2

The view some have of [DERP] from the outside amuses and confuses me.

The problem with looking for an even match is that none really exist. I do think DB is on the extreme side of things with NNK o’clock, but still. It’s better than grabbing a server from a far lower tier. Those guys don’t even show up on the map and our fairweathers come running in making it near impossible to find any fun. At least when heavily outnumbered you can sneak around and find something of interest.

There’s just nothing anet can do about this anymore. They’ve screwed up too many things that I just don’t think can be fixed. Free transfers, no oceanic servers on launch, and a wonky ranking system caused these clusterkitten matchups with servers that can’t be undone now. Best just to ride it out until anet implements a good gvg system, because I doubt they’ll ever be able to improve wvw.

Furiousbeard.7602:

Doesn’t DORP have a gvg against an FA guild tonight?

Weird you wouldn’t know that…

Go read the previous page.

… but but but … gotta get the PPT higher. Got no time to mess around with no GvGs.

etrigan.4213:

lol you’re so mad

Just stop. You’re embarrassing yourself.

etrigan.4213:

We’ll sPvP anyone. You want GvG in WvW,…then go to sPvP

Um. What?

Mada.5319:

You mean that thing some guilds do to figure out who has the most war banners and/or guardians?

Aw.. That’s cute. Come at a good Maguuma guild with a warbannering hammer train. See how well that goes.

etrigan.4213:

We were farming you open field in your own BL, either come or don’t, I think your server gave up.

A fair portion of my server likes to think they’re farming you on our borderland each night. I try to convince them otherwise, but they just won’t have it. Old guilds, new guilds and recent transfers. Makes me wrinkle my forehead.

I care about numbers just because I like to give reliable intelligence. Sometimes I actually count them individually. Harder to do when FA has like 30 to 40 in front and their backline keeps culling in and out.

Whatever. Being outnumbered doesn’t bother me if it isn’t excessive, but you guys make it hard to actually fight cause I’m spending most of my time running from counter-siege to counter-siege and repairing so many kitten walls. Always so many trebs. Do what any proper zerg server does when greatly outnumbering the enemy. Just quickly auto attack the gate down.

You’re not known for arrow carts. You’re known for long protracted trebbing sessions.

nomdeplums.5780:

You would think the “megazergs” running around would prompt DURP/PYRO to post about farming delicious FA bags, but I’ve yet to see either guild in force in game or in these forums.

Step it up, Mag. I wanna see that #magswag on the field.

We’re around. Just trying to do solid borderland defense like we always do.

Honestly though, what is there to get excited about when you’re playing against a near dead server and one with an overwhelming night presence? Not to mention FA’s habit of siege siege siege. You guys have never been that entertaining.

Jhawk.1360:

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz EB all Blue and no fights……

Probably shouldn’t have had so many recruitment threads these past few months.

Hickeroar.9734:

Yeah, the way a frontline works, it has to have a lot of micromanagement. You really have to be a tight ball of CC and Pain, and you need a “point” (commander) to follow for that role. If you get spread out, you’re worthless, and can be picked off.

Sure, if you want to play like you. If you want to play like us? Kitten all that.

Fuzzion.2504:

kerona.3465:

Once, I had a PPT.

JQ would love to have PYRO

I won’t allow you to take the frontline yin to our backline yang.

[PYRO] and [DERP] sitting in a tree.

Littlefeather.8623:

A PvP’er shouldn’t need foods or any other “help” to PvP…A real PvP’er should only rely on his/her build and skills.

No variables…just build and skill.

Food is part of a build. Next you’re gonna ask someone to duel you without any points in their traits.

No foods? That’s a bizarre definition. No wonder you aren’t finding any "1v1"s.

TC / Mag threads have never made a lick of sense.

Maguumans got their world completion last match-up. No need to go back in there.

Mad? Just bored. Getting you guys to actually fight was like pulling teeth.

There are no secret builds in this game. There are only builds that you don’t realize other people are already using.

Fox.3562:

Benjamin.6235:

I must say that I did not miss ebay’s constant attempts at second place. Haven’t run into a server that’s plays anywhere near as bad in that respect.

I must not be understanding what you’re trying to say. You don’t like it when servers play WvW? What?

I’m saying that it was a lot more fun last week when SBI helped us take on the bigger server than having Ebay constantly trying to pick me off while I’m in big tussles with FA. Don’t get me wrong, there’s enough players on your server that are giving really good fights, so I’m happy about that. There’s also enough players on your server that won’t even fight us unless we’re already busy with FA that it’s becoming tiresome. There truly isn’t another server out there that plays like this while their map still is wholly belonging to the third party in that situation.

I must say that I did not miss ebay’s constant attempts at second place. Haven’t run into a server that’s plays anywhere near as bad in that respect.

Dear Fort Aspenwood,

We have been in your west keep for hours and hours now. We have about 25 people. Please explain.

With love,

Maguuma

I want to avoid DB zergs taking all of our stuff. Attacking SBI just means we’re spending less time getting ready for NNK o’clock, and I’d prefer that SBI spends some time preparing for that too. It’s not a 2v1 so much as it is a LEAVE ME ALONE I’M TRYING NOT TO DIE HERE.

PredatoR.5247:

I challenge [DERP] to a GvG.
We don’t do anything less than 20v20

If you want to play against Maguuma guilds, you might want to lower that number. You’ll get a lot more action at 15v15.

Problem seems cleared up here.

Another Mid-Atlantic customer with Cox here. At least we know it’s not our problem.

No need to 2v1, but how about SBI and Mag try not to cap each other’s northern camps. We both need supply to get stuff ready to slow down the tsunami of bodies that comes at night.

You’d be a fool to pass up this opportunity. Got some real winners here.

Xavi.6591:

2. Use laugh/dance emote liberally when you win 10v1 (might as well macro these to save your fingers)

Hell yeah.

Didn’t WM get stuck at tier 2 with you guys and rage quit to another server?

If you think WM was hard to play against, you either didn’t know what you were doing or you didn’t play against them. Please stop trying those stale tactics against us. It’s boring.

T1 isn’t an increase in skill. It’s an increase in numbers.

I don’t really remember many of the guilds we’ve fought, so I can’t really point to a lot of specific examples, but do you know how odd it was to find out how easy it was to beat WM after all that hype? They were a T1 skill level guild back on their way up, right? The guild that was fairly easy to beat if you just refused to stand in front of them? XF and WvW need to realize how bad of an idea it is to still be playing like baby warmachines. The best thing WM did was abuse culling. Stacking might and trying to magically appear inside the enemy group is an outdated tactic that just looks silly now.

Bears are awesome.

I have never fought at Kaineng’s asian time without being seriously outnumbered. If you haven’t noticed, you guys probably have a T2 night time presence. They’re just not able to carry your NA anymore.

I suspect this may all be brilliant performance art. Comedy at its greatest.

Vayne.8563:

It’s not unreasonable for a game to require BIS gear to be just a tiny bit hard to get. Exotics really weren’t. My dog could have gotten exotics just by saving her daily karma boosts.

And that was a great thing that set this game apart from others that a lot of people here don’t want to play. It was the game anet heavily advertised it to be.

This whole need vs want argument is preposterous and dishonest at its core. There’s no reason to deliberately misinterpret people. There are things I want from this game or else I’m gonna stop playing. That makes no sense. You know what sentence does make sense? There are things I need from this game or else I’m gonna stop playing. Ignoring the context and sticking to one of the many definitions of need only to try to invalidate complaints is the most dishonest part of this argument.

Vayne.8563:

Vertical progression doesn’t have to define a gear grind. That’s your definition. There was vertical progression in this game prior to gear grind. For example, 80th level masterworks was inferior to 80th level rare, which is inferior to 80th level exotic. Each of those items are tiers of power within level 80.

The real issue, for me anyway, is whether or not I need to have that gear to play the game…since I don’t, it become a non-issue for me. I can completely ignore it, unless I want to do high level fractals (and if I do, I get that gear anyway).

I can get those exotics with a day or two of play with a character I level to 80 with an hour or two of crafting. It’s ridiculous to compare the grinding needed to obtain the two.

As far as the issue of this being a non-issue, then why do you care if ascended gear is obtained with laurels or guild tokens from time-gated content or something else that’s easier to obtain? If it truly is a non-issue for you, why are you even in this conversation?

Vayne.8563:

By the same token, giving people who don’t really have a lot of time to play the ability to have something like a couple of pieces of ascended gear shouldn’t be the end of the world. Does it matter, in the life of an MMO, if you get something like that in 30 days or 45?

It’s not 30 or 45. It’s more like 30 or 75.

Vayne.8563:

But again, no content is gated by having an ascended amulet. That’s what at least half the people in this thread are saying. So no, I don’t see this as Anet’s fault. You say it’s bad design. Some of us disagree.

Now this I agree with. I’d prefer that ascended amulet and accessories weren’t time gated. I resent how long it takes to get these items if I don’t log in every day. That doesn’t mean I, and others that feel somewhat like I do, have a psych problem.

It seems like there’d be a possible compromise between the two attitudes in this thread if anet didn’t connect something as valuable as laurels to daily quests. Looking at it as a compromise between WoW and GW2 doesn’t seem right. Seems more important to make a compromise between GW1 and GW2. No matter which side people are on as far as enjoying daily quests, I wish the debate could be centered closer to that. I think such a change could make a lot more people happy in total than the current system does.

Iruwen.3164:

Solid Gold.9310:

No wonder nobody on my friends list logs in anymore.

There are countless reasons not to login anymore, most of which aren’t ANet’s faults. The existance of dailies surely isn’t one.

If that’s what you think, you haven’t been reading this thread. I mean come on .. one of the biggest arguments for their implementation here is “but it could be worse.” Doesn’t mean they are fun. Doesn’t mean they don’t create a game that would take me years, not months, but years to get my toons amulets. Dailies giving a time gated reward like laurels is an awful design. Consider that some people don’t want to put up with awfully designed games. These mechanics being anet’s idea of new content? It’s a pretty decent reason to not login anymore.

You realize that if dailies just gave some xp or karma, people wouldn’t be complaining, right?

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

I enjoy the daily. Please keep them. They are a great idea.

I do not ever feel any kind of NEED in any manner what so ever to do the daily. If I can’t, I won’t.

You got problems if you feel you NEED to do the daily. That is a personal issue that you should probably seek professional help since there are other underlying psyc issues. ANet isn’t a therapist that can help you there.

I have fun optimizing my toons. I have lots of alts so I have lots of them to optimize. It has nothing to do with a need or want. That’s just how I have fun. Now they’ve time gated the best gear and made it so I have to log in every day. Every different build. Every different alt. All of it time gated. It would take years to fix up all my toons with the different builds I use. Kitten that. It’s not some pysch issue. It’s that they took away the fun that a lot of people had when the game was released. I didn’t want a typical MMO. I wanted Guild Wars.

Hoyvin.3241:

Benjamin.6235:

Ayrilana.1396:

I completely agree.

The game is grindy because people choose to make it that way.

No, the game is grindy because they’ve designed that way. You’re just better at ignoring that fact than some of us.

Nonsense. WoW is a grind. This is as far away from grind as any MMO I’ve played.

And I couldn’t play that game for more than a month or two. Anet’s manifesto was saying things like there’d only be grind for different looking weapons without better stats. You know. Like different dungeon sets or legendaries. Sounded good. Then they noticed that a lot of people used to other MMOs were complaining about a lack of progression and wham. Here we are. It’s not the same game as was released and the manifesto is out the window. That’s cool. I got my money’s worth out of it, but I wish it was still a game I could enjoy.

Ayrilana.1396:

I completely agree.

The game is grindy because people choose to make it that way.

No, the game is grindy because they’ve designed that way. You’re just better at ignoring that fact than some of us.

Pawstruck.9708:

QFMFT.

Don’t sit back and whine about “needing” things. It’s a game. If you’re not having fun, don’t do it. Really.

It’s not that I need things. It’s that the game wants me to log in every day and I don’t find that to be an enjoyable feeling. Tends to suck the fun out of it. So yeah, I’m not doing it by not playing GW2 anymore. There are plenty of other games out there that don’t pull this kind of grindy mmo nonsense. The kind of game I thought GW2 would be when I bought it. Bait and switch.

Dailies are actually one of the bigger reasons that I’ve stopped playing. I resent games that pressure me to play every day. Not to mention that the grind goes against what they promised before release. I’m keeping tabs on this game to see if they go back to that original vision, but I doubt they’ll do anything to get me to return.

Allowing the effects to work when you’re in midair is the worst part. It doesn’t allow you to have any control over when you activate the effect or which kit you want it from. Feels like a change made by someone who has never played an engineer. Absolutely useless now.

Rally only makes sense when you’re doing solo content in pve. It has absolutely no place in wvw, partly because the lawnmower zerg strats that it helps enable are zzz boring.

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

Happens to us in T3.

Maybe when the March patch comes out wvw will have a population spike and people will stay to play.

Maybe, but everyone will be too busy trying to do all their “character progression” that it’ll be nothing but full map karma trains anyways.

Pixelninja.6971:

I’m so excited. I can’t wait to carry more supply and do more damage with siege-weapons.
Just imagine how strong you will feel if you can carry 5 more supply, such a fun ability.

You don’t realize how important carrying 20 supply instead of 15 is into a reset night?

Yeah, I’m done.

You should be a commander before you get the icon.