Guild Wars 2

Windsagio.1340:

hybrid.5027:

Glassy gear is only safer because the content is so old that even bads have mastered it.

Remember when silverwastes came out and people were praising anet for release really challenging anti-berserker content? It wasn’t actually challenging or anti-berserker, it was simply that the bads hadn’t learned the enemy movesets and got dumpstered.

Man that was productive :p

Silverwastes is better anti-zerk content, it’s also free open-world content.

You’re having a basic misunderstanding about the intent though, it’s not to make zerk impossible, it’s to make it harder — to move the slider.

And they did move the slider, it’s a gradual process, they can’t just change it entirely overnight or else players will (rightly) lose their minds.

So now we have harder, more complex encounters with almost entirely base enemies (not things like dungeon pulls with 3+ elites) and setpiece boss encounters. Given that it’s non-veteran content mostly, it can’t be TOO hard. If they were still developing dungeons, we’d see that encounter style slipping into actual group content, that’s a different scenario.

Except that they did not move the slider. When I wear zerker gear and move up to a boss I don’t fight often I will get hit a lot, maybe dodge some insignificent attacks and get hit by harder ones because I don’t know the attacks and how to deal with them. Let me fight this mob once or twice then I know the harder hitting attacks, how to react and the fight is easy again. Silverwastes didn’t do much different than your ez pz dungeons.

Bump, I’d like to know more

Procop.1579:

First Fractal of the Day: 38
Finaly boss Mia had to 4 man it down since a guard left the party for lack of AR.

None of the party member had got the daily chest.(all 4 i mean).

I want a hammer or dagger for my hardwork gone into the drain.

Don’t worry, you would have gotten a ring

Did a 50, Mai Trin

Got a chest

Purple Miku.7032:

Cheezy.2039:

dutchiez.7502:

Cheezy.2039:

GrimmR.3541:

1.) Sesshi because I’m biased or Deathly because I know how much he has improved! #donthitmemate

I don’t think it’s biased to say that this guy is the best soloer. And I am not biased at all

Hmm… seems strangely familiar…

Hm, can you link me yours? I can’t find it it seems

Here is Nova’s http://www.twitch.tv/dutchiezz/c/4567358

He was the first to have solod this boss iirc, but Sesshi did it a month later and got a lot better of a time

Thanks, no wonder I couldn’t find it if it’s on twitch >.>
Very impressive, indeed

dutchiez.7502:

Cheezy.2039:

GrimmR.3541:

1.) Sesshi because I’m biased or Deathly because I know how much he has improved! #donthitmemate

I don’t think it’s biased to say that this guy is the best soloer. And I am not biased at all

Hmm… seems strangely familiar…

Hm, can you link me yours? I can’t find it it seems

Yeah, I hope that’s a bug…

Edit: same for Bolt, the lightning effect on the sword disappears after half a second as well

GrimmR.3541:

1.) Sesshi because I’m biased or Deathly because I know how much he has improved! #donthitmemate

I don’t think it’s biased to say that this guy is the best soloer. And I am not biased at all

1) Sesshi, no doubt
2) SC
3) Sad, that it’s only arah records I’d propose SC’s TA forward, Tobi’s skip was amazing. Out of the given ones, Arah P3 by SC
4) DnT tournament
5) Frifox’s stuff
6) gw2dungeons.net
7) Nike
8) I propose Jerem Jk, no choice here
9) rT’s Thug Lyfe
10) rT vs FGS in Arah p3

Kaiser.8504:

Quite surprised this thread is just 12 days old, really.

Pages fill quickly if people repeat the same arguments over and over again

Don’t you think that being ambitious is a good thing – wanting to refine something more and more until it becomes perfect? (unless there is a translation I am not aware of)
Would you not feel proud after achieving something great? Would you not feel ‘status conscious’ when you have proven multiple times that you definitly are good at something? And now people are saying wrong things just about the stuff you know a ton about?
I agree that often being impatient is not a good thing but it sometimes pushes progress.

My point is, what is wrong about wanting to do something better than before – why can’t I expect people to contribute to the success of the whole party? Or at least: not intentionally do something worse than it was done before?

Zelyhn Lekovitch.2867:

Cheezy.2039:

I wish you would just discuss normally without leashing out at Nike and DnT all the time

Purple Miku.7032:

Anyways, Fennec doesn’t deserve the derailment.

maha.7902:

Focusing all AOE impacts on to one spot is about as “legit” as FGS rushing walls pre-nerf.

But yeah, blame me.

This was not specific to this thread and I feel like you voiced your opinion just because Nike made an appearance in this thread.

Yay, you did it
Good job

I totally understand people who don’t want to rush through everything. The amazing thing is: I don’t have to deal with people who don’t want to and these people don’t have to deal with me as long as they label their LFGs accordingly.

The bad thing is: somehow some idiots don’t understand that concept, try to force themselves into my parties and kitten at my playstyle on the forums.

And yes, if my LFG states ‘zerker’ and the fights take long enough to show that obviously some people are not fitting that requirement then I feel like I have the right to kick them.

Leo G.4501:

Driving is the wrong analogy for you to use as that is all about allotting the proper time for various circumstances. You don’t get in your vehicle and try to hit as many destinations in a time limit.

True, but I also like driving fast for the sake of driving fast. Just like dungeons

I wish you would just discuss normally without leashing out at Nike and DnT all the time

Leo G.4501:

Did you see the type of reaction I got when I proposed a 20min CM was reasonable for an mmo? You’d think I said a racist slur by those types of reactions. Or just putting forth a different perspective can get a head bitten off.

To be honest, my response was driven by personal reasons. Because you are either showing that you have no clue what you are talking about (time difference is minimal, etc.) or you are intentionally ignoring the point we are trying to make.

Do you think taking 18 minutes for a task that can (/should?) be done in 5 minutes is reasonable? Now of course gaming is not a task. But, for example, I like driving. Still I wouldn’t want to have my daily way to university take three times the usual time.

Also if you start the game with a limited time frame and the intention of doing a dungeon and then going to Silverwastes, wouldn’t you be upset if the dungeon took up all your time? For some people the same goes for multiple dungeons. When I log in after getting home I want to do CM, Arah and some more dungeons if I have time. But if CM takes up all my evening I would be upset. Especially if it’s because some people are too lazy or too special to play optimally. And that is after I clearly stated my intentions in the LFG.

Aw, I was just about to grab my popcorn

Lol, you normally take 18 minutes for a full run of CM

Jerus.4350:

My thoughts on all those tricks is honestly they shouldn’t be part of records but should be fine in daily runs. They’re neat tricks. If enough didn’t want them though I’m sure the rules of the GWSCR could be changed to outlaw them, but it never has, so that shows how unpopular that option would be as far as I’m concerned. Seems like people like it so /shrug.

My only problem with it is that they’re so good it’s silly to do anything else if you’re going for speed which has left it as a “stack as many Ele’s as you can” thing for a long time. It’d be interesting to see what other combinations could do is all.

The last updated record on the GWSCR site was on November 3rd, so I guess if they get updated at all they might change the ruleset as well. But I hope they ban wall-on-wall at Lupi. dodge-shower (and ice storm, etc.) doesn’t annoy me nearly as much.

Even before people started to focus all AoE’s in a small spot you would stack eles because their DPS is good, their mobility is good, their utility is good and their burst is excellent.

IvanTheGrey.2941:

Great job! /15cheers

Thanks^^

Hey,

after all the Spider Queen extravaganza I thought it’s time for a cooler boss. Phase 3 is actually quite boring (on Thief at least) but the other ones are really fun. I really recommend others to try it as well.

I messed up a lot (mainly in Phase 1) and didn’t use proper sigils and food, I guess sub 2 minutes is possible.

Enjoy!

Sarahfull.4930:

A question, if you may:
Can you do this aoe trick with the engi grenade barrage?
or even with the 3-nade atuo attack?

Tested it, does work

Strange how it was mostly people from rT who quit. At least that’s the impression I got :P

More people left because of the no-new-dungeons-anouncement, which is understandable

Coffietire.2783:

I guess what I’m trying to point out here is that I understand why the meta is what it is, and there is nothing wrong with full zerk groups. The problem is more about people trying to go full beserker, not creating specified beserker only groups, mess up with it (easy to do), blame the nonzerkers for their lack of dps, and start preaching their agenda on how full zerk is the only thing viable. You have to admit, at least that is a problem, even if it is just a minor community based one.

Those people are called idiots. And they are in every group of players, I met people who would comment on people going down as filthy zerkers and how they would be carried all the time.

You know what’s a cool thing? That you can avoid meta fanatics as well as idiots by doing one simple thing: playing with people you know.

I got an idea to do it in ~9

Maybe I’ll get to do it once my internet stops sucking

Good, because at the rate at which Anet is roling out their ‘trinity’ and the rate in which they produce content that I would play, I won’t be around for the point where you have to use a nomads guardian or whatever to complete content

oxtred.7658:

I want to hug you. #nohomo

We all know the truth :P

@OP: I love you. I will link this everytime someone complains about the zerker meta.

frifox.5283:

oxtred.7658:

Let’s state it again then. You stopped caring about us long ago and you don’t even have the balls to come and tell us you’re not giving a duck anymore. Come here directly and tell us to go screw ourselves.

Not going to happen. No sane company would openly diss their customers.

I think that at this point it’s safe to say that Anet can’t be considered a sane company anymore

Just tell us, that people are working on dungeons, let it be new ones or the ones we provided feedback about.

And not in a ‘people are killing lupicus with reflects, let’s make that attack unblockable’ way of working on dungeons. In a way that the regulars of the dungeon forum provided feedback.

And that you will take feedback about dungeons seriously even after the merge of the subforums.

Ha, who am I kidding, nothing of this will happen.

oxtred.7658:

Let’s state it again then. You stopped caring about us long ago and you don’t even have the balls to come and tell us you’re not giving a duck anymore. Come here directly and tell us to go screw ourselves.

RIP

Let’s go to the sylvari subforum, no sane person I know plays a sylvari

Inb4 every dungeon related thread will be closed

The Trashcan will live on in our heart

Welcome back to the trashcan

Nothing will happen to dungeons, except for ‘bug fixes’

RIP that thread about dungeon changes

It will be missed

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

You know, it’d be nice to hear from Regina about the progress made on fixing the dungeons based on this community’s collaboration months ago. She asked for our input after all, and despite the majority of people being ticked off, this community still gave focused feedback for every dungeon instance.

Is all that gone into the void?

What did you expect?
Most forum regulars didn’t contribute for a reason: all is vain

Nice

This is why I don’t pug. Even if you bother to do gear checks, recklessly kick everyone who does not run meta builds you will still get people who don’t know when to use what skill, don’t blast fields or use weird DPS rotations

Don’t get me started on all the other kittens

GrimmR.3541:

Cheezy.2039:

Why was the old thread closed? I bet it was because of these toxic elitists who already start posting in this one.

I’m looking at you Grimm!

Fight me IRL mate!

We all know how that will turn out, I tank all of your hits with my godly nomads equipment while you go down to one hit with your filthy zerker stats.

Get on my level

Nicely done

/15kitteningchars

Why was the old thread closed? I bet it was because of these toxic elitists who already start posting in this one.

I’m looking at you Grimm!

ShadowRX.9024:

Miku Lawrence.6329:

tl;dr – we should copyright the ability to switch traits, utilities and weapons when out of combat.

Take it as you want, all im gonna say to finish this thing is when i watched your record it felt like it was the same video we LuPi did but with 8 sec better rng at tazza wich is ironically exactly what I said in my description of my 3:28 (“Close to perfect , we lost around 8 sec on the 3 golems,tazza. Swiftness ran out and 1 down .” [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS4XRMgl38o]) . But im done,there is no point arguing with any of you from iV , better to just show you with videos then try to talk with you.

Ok, I think this is like putting oil into fire but I will regret it if I don’t say it (sorry Grimm for letting you down).
This is something personal, no offense to LuPi. YOU were the one kittening at our record, you were the one bashing PS wars, hammer guards and finally the whole of iV. I don’t think you even fully tested PS and seeing as you wrote protection is a worthless boon I want to see you do open field Tazza and Kaeyi reliably without the protection from the Earth Elementals. You said we have the same time until Tazza, but you used time warp beforehand. You said your run was close to perfect ‘losing 8 seconds’ but we got these 8 seconds and our Tazza kill can still use a lot of refinement.
I know that you alone don’t represent your guild entirely but this made you appear like a bunch of idiots. What huge innovation do you expect in content that is two years old? What kind of ‘real’ innovation did you bring in your SE record? Until the three golems SE P1 is so straight forward I feel 99.9% sure when I say we won’t see fundamentally new strategies.

All of that being said I am eager to see you follow up on your words because indeed, after you being such a huge kitten I don’t believe anything you say without proof.

Cheers

GrimmR.3541:

U whot cheezy ?

Yeah, if they have new tactics we can steal them again, dimbo

On a serious note, I like watching new innovative stuff

^ this.

And if Deathly/LuPi has new tactics that’s even better

Rocky + Phalanx new meta confirmed.

Also another Ele PoV coming tomorrow

Edit: There it is! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiC5UA4bC5Y

IllegalChocolate.6938:

- LoS pull into a corner stack is the easiest way of dealing with mobs in the ascalon fractal

The easiest way of dealing with the majority of them is stealth.

Try again

hybrid.5027:

100% True Facts:

-DPS is all that matters
-Fights are so fast that control and support are meaningless
-As a result 5 ele and 5 thief teams control every speed clear record and are the only team comps people want on LFG

But isn’t warrior the highest DPS in the game? :S

/s

Sometimes I’m glad that ANet doesn’t visit the Dungeon forum because they might actually introduce some of the bullkitten suggestions.

@Frost:

When have you been playing Dungeons (Dungeons, not just PvE) for the last time? What boss dropped in 3 seconds? I guess the only thing you did was AC, if you did something else I really want to see your DPS builds, because that would be amazing.

Edit:

also I think frost is trolling

Totally with you on that one

dboylolz.3916:

If arenanet viewed it as a serious exploit they would’ve patched it, no? That’s what they usually do when something in PvE is broken, right?

10/10, I laughed

Not sure how it happened, but we can’t advance after defeating the second Archdeviner. We got the advancing dialog and everything, but nothing happened. Opener got a message, I will try to get a screenshot later.

Does anyone else get this bug? Did anyone complete a Cliffside fractal after todays patch?

Edit: here is the screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/sO3f4O3.jpg

dlonie.6547:

Cheezy.2039:

I’d guess P2 will just be removed after all the bugs it had so far (Alphard >.>).

Instead we get a jumping puzzle, because that’s what GW2 endgame is about

I thought endgame was based on uninstalling the game and complaining on the forums?

Then ANet is doing a well job at pushing players into endgame combat

I’d guess P2 will just be removed after all the bugs it had so far (Alphard >.>).

Instead we get a jumping puzzle, because that’s what GW2 endgame is about