Guild Wars 2

Snort – aye you hit them at 6am UK time on saturday. you can do that 1 day a week not 7 days a week. Also Im not best pleased with how that went given what we were told was the plan during the INT meeting and what happened but i leave that for the guild leader to discuss. But I can assure you this, I will not be staying up till 6am defending countless attacks when the “support” we were promised to relief us decided to go attack elsewhere instead.

@Lin : My guild tag is LoE (lords of england). We not a massive zerg guild and generally push out about 10-15 people a night, more on the planned nights and weekends. Often you will infact just have me and a couple more there trying to help give organisation to other people (such as yesterday afternoon/evening when we took hills from you via catapulting walls, taking down the north inner wall, taking out both your defense and aurora attack on us. etc etc.)
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I dont often take control of the masses if there is already a commander there, or someone trying to organise it. I dont like to use my commander tag to try boss people around but when asked too I do turn it on and try to help give the servers attack direction. But my ability is only as good as those willing to listen

Current match status says it all though.
Before it is 11pm in the GMT+4 zones they have lost 75% of the holdings. And considering that to do that AG and GH have to actually fight players and defenses on a large scale it shows which two servers are the better imo.
If everyone was on the same time zone I dont think Xaoc would be claiming superior strategy because Im yet to see anything beyond 4-5rams on empty keeps

@Snort

The key difference is one of them set their alarms for 6am/7am THEIR time to take keeps. Last night it was 3am UK time that Xaoc/XT came online, previous night it was 4am, before that 5am, and night before that 6am.

Every day their “morning” zerg has hit a zone an hour earlier then the prior day. But i guess it just coincidence that they all suddenly started waking up naturally an hour prior to the day before. Must be the really competitive fights they get at that time of the day

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I rather lose a game though then resort to such tactics, afteral it gives me something to do in the late afternoon/evening. Always fun destroying them squishy russians (are you all glass cannon builds or something? )

Must say i think it is funny how you talk about “GH nightcap takes” … yet you dont mention the fact we take back a good half the map during PRIMETIME and rip apart your forces.

We accepted you would win because on a WORK DAY we muster our forces in the evening and get victories against real competition not NPC;s. I dont mind, it shows we are actually tactically better then you as on equal numbers and against defenses set up for 12hrs we can take you

Oh, and GH has about 10 people in WvW when your main forces come online, been funny through the past few days though watching the Xaoc/XT zerg have to set their alarms 1 hour earlier each day to begin getting the advantage … and i wont mention some mystical happenings.

P.S. . . I hope you enjoyed my orb defense up in the north on sunday when the orb in garrison upgraded keep suddenly fell out its alter and you went to try get it from the supply camp alter. After our hard work in getting it we were not letting you walk in to get it until your morning zerg came on

Chewbiduhwa.9756 – Quite funny how your server says ours are poor.. yet everytime you move up to what they clearly deem to be where you deserve (in top tier) a guild that claims to be great takes the week off to PvE instead.

Let me guess, this is just an odd occurance that you never realised :p

Djack – it was YOUR GUILD that started this post in the first place. Just go recheck it. Dont know Snort’s standing in your guild though.

But i agree it about bragging now. But least i gave an example where my side lost eventually

Fine. If you want ideas that would make it acceptable to me. Fine.

1) It is a short time thing. 1-3hr max
2) Large gold cost (10g + as it affects so many people it would be a server combined effort. Value has scope to be increased as more money enter system)
3) 100 Badge of honour cost – means you wont have pve people going “but i need that vista/poi” etc .. they would need to be involved in wvw to be able to initialise
4) This merely stops you attacking their keeps, Players still can be killed if deemed a threat (Hello im spying on your situation whilst you cant attack me, and i bring a force to your weak point when it drops0

that will do for now, though sure more will come to mind

find me an ungeared, lvl2 character that can get to the chests when they are camped

Deso constantly camp teh puzzles through the night, but come 2300 I have camped them from it for hours if I just want to relax and farm badges :P

4.5k kills or so… over 800 badges in inventory, 396 spent on weapon, probably 200+ on seige gear in early days of game and god knows how many badges missed!
Drop rate doesnt bother me to much though as it isnt my main focus

So, basically you are saying that a few people would be able to dictate everything the server could do. Sorry but no thank you. Stick friendly fire on the diplomat for me so I can kill them myself!

I stick with the old saying “if its red, its dead”. The only good enemy is a dead one and I will select my targets to kill, not you or any other random that is scared of a tougher fight

Nef… judging by that i take it you dont know blueprints can be dropped and picked up. I could port 10 people with my mesmer to the end of the puzzle in EB. 30s later 2 seige equipment. They drop it, i pick it up. Repeat until i got 50+ siege golems in my bank. What does it take for me to do this? 10 people willing to bring all their alts to me over the course of 30minutes or so.

So. 10 people, 5 characters = 100 siege items collected and given to 1 person in 30minutes. Actually, now that is on paper it is appealing. lol.

Though i dont want dropped blueprint thing changed, just the other day i stole an enemy blueprint. They clicked to get the blueprint in their hand, we killed them before they could do anything, blueprint dropped to floor. I jumped out keep and stole their seige item

Only time ever seen it happen but my god it was fun

Right. I may as well get involved in this thread.
It was evident from my point of view that after 24hrs there was an “unofficial” alliance between deso and aug. You focused on GH strong because of the 15k lead quickly built in the match. Fair do’s.

Now if the French had sense this unoffical alliance would have been torn up but on multiple occasions I have seen them side by side and not attack each other until gunners was downed. Infact this happened on our boardlands today when trebs were hitting Hills keep, deso came took the camp, AR came and stood 10yrds from it. Neither went near each other till the matter was forced. Funny sight really

I think in a WvWvW situation deso and gunnars would be pretty close but with the 3rd world focused more on one then the other then clearly it will change things. This instance it went against us and we will drop down on next matchup. But in 2 matchup times I predict we will have the exact same matchup.

Deso will lose top teir game
Aug will settle yet again for 2nd in teir 2
GH will win tier 3 game

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Now, even with all this going on. I still think that one the best nights since release was the 2-3hr defense of the bay in which I led my guilds against both sides. French clearly wanted Deso in as they helped break doors from the inside at the other end of keep where they were but we didnt let that deter us.

Constantly we would be down south outter, we would run 1 of various tactics and clear it. Grab supply camp/supply. Back inside for reinforcing something. Up north, Kill the Deso zerg, take supply camp up there… etc etc. Often it be 20vs40 but we still constantly cleared it.
Sure eventually you got through outters (Hmmm 10 times i think :p ) but we cleared inners multiple times also before you finally breached. And even then, against all odds we held the keep for a further 20minutes or so against the pair of you. As we wore one right down the other would return. Hilarious really.

Actually, that night i think i earned a good couple of gold and a few hundred badges of honours from what was basically one drawn out fight.

I do hope we all fight again, im not scared of a challenge. BUT. . . and I know some on GH wont like this, when I am leading a LoE team in frontiers I will not abide by any alliance. I will hit targets I feel is right, when I feel it is right. I suspect my guild leaders will support this because we play this game for fun and not politics. If an adhoc alliance appears helpful to me then I WILL follow it but I refuse to organise or uphold anything decided via direct communication. So if enemy attacking one side of map, I happily will clear the other side until that task is done, but if I see them I will beeline for them too.
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Admittingly this week has been a poor showing in some respects, someone tonight decided to zerg supply camps instead of defending/attacking keeps. Was laughing mykitten off at my server for thinking that would be helpful. Constantly going to lakes supply and camping it was oh so good!
But anyways, GH has lots of room to improve and it will over time. Im slowly seeing what guilds I appreciate the help off and which I dont. Though I differ to some people, many dont appreciate KISS, whereas I see their uses and their willingness and so will support them… but CIR/THUN etc I also see how well they play but they also show a problem with GH with the attitude towards KISS and other “lesser” guilds.

Until GH stops fighting internally we will never reach top seed of servers… however in many ways that doesnt worry me. Compared to many we have a much smaller WvW population yet we still up amoungst those that probably should have been unreachable. It no surprise where we are, infact I was more surprised to see the French… actually no Im not… I predicted the “Throw out the white flag and take 2nd”.

No seriously, my biggest surprise was that Deso needed the French initally to turn the tide of the battle. But at least this thread shows one thing. GH will not settle for 2nd. We would prefer to go for it and come last, then play like pansies and come 2nd