Guild Wars 2

Nakara.7108:

The way to get to higher tiers is getting better not getting better players to join you.

Not on gunnars.. but lol.

XAOC are not better players then the GH guilds. Infact GH often slaughtered xaoc raids of 30+ people with just 5 defenders. I was once present when 4 people killed 40+ of them when they attacked a semi upgraded Hills in some of our early battles prior to BT being the FOTM server.

GH needed numbers. It plummeted down the ranks due to lack of them. Equal number fights they probably won 75% of the battles, especially in open field. And in keep defense they are very strong. The community was also very good.

Unfotunately I left the server after it no longer fit my guilds playstyle as we didnt want to always be on the defense and that was the case due to only being able to get people in the GH home boarder … but in all my time of playing I have not met a server that got better players, or more organisation. I can tell you one thing now, if my guild ever is left with low numbers that we cant enjoy the game then I would probably head back there (assuming Xaoc do not ruin the community)

100% WvW completion before I hit lvl 10. Just is a matter of timing most the time. Took me awhile to get it on my thief that was made for 100% map completion mind you, by awhile I mean a week of trying. Got it thanks to friends throwing up 10 golems and ripping the final keeps apart

Just dont stand there. walk away, hide by houses etc with a portal ready to go down behind them. Works well

fab.3298:

We need servers to get merged.

They will argue there is no need as there are mechanics in place for players to solve this issue themselves … as much as I would agree with.
Good luck in this matchup. Fighting SoE was a pleasure

There is actually a couple of buildings that need to be smashed multiple times to be fully smashed. Make sure that you hit everything multiple times in order to not get caught by this.
Took us about 15minutes extra to find out why we didnt have the achievement and eventually found a smashed one that needed to be further smashed.

Haha.
Love Svarty. Transfer complaint in a new way

Find it funny you need 2fg to start this, when some servers cant even manage to get that many in some zones.. It is possible he actually is not a true commander and plays like most PUG style players. “Ah there more then one enemy, I am running away”

Citedal, north side, west of portal out to camp. Small spot there you can get invunrability from.

In general i dont use it,but i do afk there to chat if i plan on hitting the camp.. or if there a zerg or people camping with guards then I use it to troll them. Run in, start fight, portal back to invun zone. . . though doesnt matter to me as i could just portal right back up and emote waves

xmikey.6051:

Here is a pretty picture of BG players with 2 build arrow carts and a ballista and in the process of building ballistas and arrow carts (and mesmer portalling more players up to “man the siege”) in one of the harder parts of the EB jumping puzzle.

Say what you will, building siege to hit players who cannot reasonably mount any defense is definitely not an honorable way to fight.

your pretty picture shouts “Noobs camping”. I have never been stopped by a bunch of campers in the jumping puzzle. In general i go with 1-5 guildies. Get to the end. If camped use pulls and bring them down to us to deal with. See where they are camping? That would be an absolute field day for us. Probably could kill them with just 2-3 people given their locations. Couple that with the fact some their seige is destroyable in the locations placed makes it even easier.

I never use seige now if I am camping the puzzle, it actually makes you easier to deal with. Rather rely on class abilities and if they do get to the top, well there always methods to send them back down. Infact blocked the puzzle tonight against 12-15 enemy with 6 of us, constantly just knocked back anyone on the last ledge, or killed them when they got across. They easily could have killed us with some basic usuage of abilities but they didnt which meant I managed to get 6 characters through the puzzle

Valdel.7325:

Please do not gloat when you have power over others (operation triumph) as it makes AG look terrible. We may have moved here. but not now.

Valdel
TDA/KF

Valdel,
I had a talk with dis about this myself, and I spoke alot with Fizzle. Would happily chat with you too.

But let me say this.. IF you do end up moving in the future (as you say, no one elses business), then do not discount a server that may be right for you due to one persons actions. . . . especially when you take into account your playtimes most often will not clash and they can be avoided totally.

There are not many servers that are good options for the way you like to play. Believe me I looked into it for a long while … unless you happy to put up with queues or being pretty alone in a boardland. So just keep all options open and use what happened as merely a varible rather then a definate case not to put up with it.

I understand the love you have for your guild and what his actions could have caused however please consider what I am saying… honest I am not being biased because I love TDA and how they play (and want to chase fizzle around)

Just a question … is there no way that you can have the coding in place so people can pick:
No culling
old culling
new culling.

That way you can truelly see what works best for people as they can manually change it. Make default new culling and that way you know that if people are switching to the others then there must be a reason.

Fizzlefry.1734:

vanash.2671:

Stand out guilds for me this match up have been TDA and SOE. I don’t know how you managed it but you always seemed to have a great showing when I’ve seen you in the zones. We(LoE)were always in enemy BL’s on Gunnars so maybe missed you, but it seemed as though your guilds really put the effort in this match up.

/salute

Too bad we didn’t get to set up a fight between TDA and LoE this week. It’s been rather hectic for us, simply haven’t had the time.

Best of luck to you guys.

-Fizzle.

Who needs set up fights, was a blast no matter what.

GH are superb at defending after all the practice and much respect to that. Seige placement and everything. Getting a foothold was always a tough but fun task even at times it looked like a farming session (for both sides tbh.)
Saw guilds I never seen before, and PvE guilds that just came out to kill KISS. Was in stitches at times seeing the suicidal people going after him

I wish GH luck in their next fight too. I know it is a hard time and I am no longer there but I seriously do respect the majority still there even with some the things that been said. Keep up the good work and do whatever you need to in order to retain the fun in the game.

fab.3298:

Great fight three-way fight in ROF garrison a little earlier, had lots of fun. Unfortunately i think ROF were pretty outnumbered but they gave us quite a kicking with that balista. Good job to AG for winning the battle – we were fighting, waiting for the inevitable portal bomb, and when it came it was brutal and decisive.

Was a great fight.
I didnt notice GH until they had busted the watergate inner right by where I was. Somehow I managed to move away and get upstairs. That initial push, along with the balista on opposite side mullared so many people I was laughing, followed by running like a little girl throwing marks down everywhere (was on a lvl 16 necro ).
Found somewhere to hide at the west inner and waited there a minute and directed the dead to the watergate as they didnt realise you took a different route in to us.

Watching the fight from above was great but short lived. Had to run as one of your guys was running after RoF wiped most GH and they came straight at me. Managed to run away and survive on 41hp when AG guys got back.
Door had to be taken back down but only a few %, and then we were back in. First portal bomb on RoF wiped a bunch, we spread out and tried to wipe them normal but culling meant that was hard. When GH returned again it was mayhem, there was more RoF then you probably saw tbh as we were between you and them , they just kept appearing ontop of me. Think we used portal to move around the room at least 3 or 4 times, some more effective then others … if it wasnt the lame 5 target max aoe crap I think RoF may have held, or GH would have taken it because the position in the middle was really awful.

Wish to congratulate RoF/GH for that fight. I believe we had about 10 players more then GH, and maybe 15 more then RoF … but you put up one hell of a fight

TDA rock. Always like you guys. And damn you fizzy for being afk at 2am when i messaged you

drkn.3429:

LoE, another GH jumper, has been fielding decent numbers lately but they break down and flee much too soon, although that will hopefully change.

heh. Still bitter.
We dont just run, we do fighting retreats. It called tactics. Against superior numbers you cant take them head on, especiallly when they co-ordinating on a server mumble, and so you spread them out etc.
Better to retreat then hand out free loot to the enemy zerg, especially when some them chase and others dont allowing you to cut down their numbers drastically.

Of course, we could just recruit tons of randoms and stack up on each other but I dont like that tactic therefore I will keep with the guerilla warfare tactics that are more fun
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Anyways. To avoid flaming I privately sent a response in regards to this post containing positives and negatives. I still like the community on GH even though I am not there hence I put across as many positives as negatives

fynyte.6410:

Glad to hear some of you are enjoying fighting SOE, we’re having a lot of fun this week, the big fights and the small are all helping us to improve as a team and recruit new members. We’re looking forward to more, so keep it coming.

Oh, and we have high hopes for an intense Friday night finish, so don’t disappoint us!

Im hoping that GH will keep up their end of match enemy voicechats. Would be nice to speak to some of the guys and girls
Think the fight between RoF and GH be close this week so could go to the wire, and they have always been the fun matches.

Should get online in a hour or two I hope, will have to see where our people are though as I wont be making that decision tonight

drkn.3429:

The rats who just joined AG will then abandon the ship, seeking glory elsewhere, bringing zergy numbers to the winning side again.

LoE got no intents to seek glory anywhere. We just seek the type of fights we like and currently we been getting some of them being against GH when we unfortunately could no longer get them on GH. Said it more then once, leaving was not a fast and easy decision as all of the mumble users knew. (you probably didnt because never used to see MM around until recently)

I take it drkn is not distrap? if not that 2 bitter MM players. Maybe as a guild you should speak to your mesmer that hacks into keeps as on my final night on GH he hacked into the EB Green fort and tried to port me in. When I asked Aiyubi how the guy got in he could only say he didnt know, and that it was apparently mesmer tricks. Given the keep was never breached it says alot given that the player wouldnt even tell his own guild commander how he got there
No need for me to name him as you guild already know which person this is. Was very proud of Aiyubi for not taking advantage of this.

I S U P E R S I N I.4761:

I am informed, that TDA, BdB CHTK could be leaving gunnars hold in the coming week.
Also further GH guilds are moving to Aurora glade, after this weeks match up.

Dis, this wasnt really necessary mate. Some people I chat to have said things to me in regards to their guilds but I would never pass this on to outside people, especially on a public forum. May tell some of my guild, and infact a GH player knows of one of them simply because they were on our TS (keeping promise to run dungeons with GH player(s) ), but i trust them not to say anything because they a good person.

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Wether that list of guilds is true or not is not an issue. Simple fact is there only one guild that probably will look hypocritical if they ever leave given things that been said… ALL other guilds on the server would have been thinking of what is best for THEIR players for some time. Doesnt matter if it PvE or PvP, the population just isnt very high throughout. This was great for co-ordination in WvW where we ended up knowning almost everyone that done it, but long term it was simply not self-sustainable.
And to be fair, the above comment wont even be just GH specific, there various servers it would relate to.
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Anyways, Im looking forward to the day this week I can get to play properly instead of only being able to keep up mainly on the forum. Almost got my Lounge back, but having to now get xmas decorations sorted now the actually decorating is done. lol

Krosan.2890:

I still don’t get why GH insists on cutting off our supply routes in ROF borderlands while you guys have little control over your own borderlands. Your only helping AG by cutting off our supplies. GH been doing this the entire day and I can’t see the logic behind it.

Logic is as follows:
1) This gives GH points and takes them off you. Increases the chance of 2nd place.
2) They could be looking for skirmish fights from you. I know that when I ran a small group outmanned everywhere I would take a camp and hope to get a small number of enemy break of from the zerg to come retake it. Can get some good fights that way if all you interested in is the fights and not the points.

Been enjoying fights with SoE. Really enjoyable. Shame i didnt get to play today due to doing work on house still. Maybe tomorrow evening

And you may be 3rd now, but Im still debating where to put my focus through the week. Sometimes I want to hit GH due to some bitterness from people, but dont want to punish my friends still there and so think some fun in RoF may be on the cards. May or may not help you depending on the situation else where but it always a possibilty.

Think one of my fave fights so far was in bay yesterday. Was a big fight on the bridge, about 25vs30. Had a 10 man LoE group in the battle, didnt like the look of bottleneck because of the cannon usage on the outter wall, so portalled whilst the battle was on going and I jumped off the bridge.
Portal activated and LoE went through leaving the other people up there fighting. Moved out the water onto the outter wall and removed the cannon threat, then saw GH were pushing the AG forces hard and had the upper hand. At this point another of our mesmers was already on route to the bridge area and got us immediately in the fight behind the enemy for a perfect pincer movement that turned the tide back in AG favor.

Really is fun fighting against our former server because you have well and truelly formed the defensive tactics in all the weeks you been staying in the home BL. Credit where it is due there. I knew we were good on the defense but you can not truelly respect it until you been on the other side of it

Heh, so high pop servers suffer for low pop servers. This is why there free transfers that people are taking the opportunity to find their fun for.
This is a case of the good of the many outweige the good of the few unfortunately, hence our server move (and yes I know from FH you dont like the free transfers but that wont fix your issue if had to pay.)

Nidhogg.2950:

Svarty.8019:

Word to the wise on AG. Don’t come to rely on the former GH guilds, they obviously have a track record of defecting not just to any server, but the enemy server, when times are hard.

Good luck.

To be fair to LoE, they had already mentioned they were thinking of leaving weeks ago.

They will have their own reasons for choosing AG.

Nid, as you taken a more respectable tone now, so will I.

LoE moved to AG for various reasons.
1) Some of our players had friends there

2) Some of our players actually started there, for instance a friend of mine from back in DAoC. When I got in touch with him he came over to join us, but always said that AG was a nice active server.

3) One of our officers had AG in mind. My pick back all them weeks ago was Piken , after just 2 days fighting them. We would have been welcomed there from the people I was chatting with, however they got a massive influx of players that has mixed their community up and also caused constant queues in all boarderlands. As such I took that server off the cards.
3b) I didnt want to go to a server well up the ranks either which limited the choices a little. Rather put work in moving up the ranks as I had been trying to do with GH.

4) Kiss moved there, and later at night our few players online likes to run with them. Wasnt a deciding factor but one taken into account.

5) PvE – We had word there was a lot move pve activity there. And so far it been shown to be so. For instance, you can pretty much get obsidian shards when you want because the temple isnt contested 24/7. On GH you be lucky if you could get it once a month, and that was only at a pre-set event time because after that it immediately got lost..

Now I must admit the switch happened very quickly from the time the decision was made. Literally within 24hrs of our guild leader going, “Decision made it seems, lets do it”. I had proposed the move for the coming friday however with the xmas event starting we were worried about server stability affecting the transfers.
Also we considered the affect on gunnars. Do we stay when we know we are leaving and affect the WvW results for a week, or do we just make the move. I considered that moving right away was probably the better option because we knew that outside of GH boarder there be very little fighting anyways therefore anything we did would affect the result even if only a bit.

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And Nid, ALL SERVERS are enemy servers. Because you always have a chance to face them as populations change etc. LoE did not make this decision on a whim, we considered it for a long time and have lots of posts in relation to pros and cons. This is the first time we moved server in this time and stuck with GH through all the bad times, continuing to put in alot of effort. However eventually it wasnt any fun… and considering there are multiple commanders (Uroo, slaughterer etc) that didnt want to run their tag due to the abuse they recieved from doing so then staying for the community begun to be less of an issue, especially with many parts of it discussing if GH remains the right place for them.
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So far I enjoyed my time on AG. Though I did enjoy grouping with Ghostie today to do some PvE dungeons. There are a number of GH players I will still play with in this manner infact so that I dont lose touch. This time of year makes it hard to have a big impact on the new server due to people going away for the holidays etc but in time Im sure I get a name on this server too for the crazy moves that I pull off against the foes. Least I was nice and didnt call an army into bay behind you when i could have

Lol. I was in stitches with how many of you it took to eventually kill me. I was actually busy chatting with a few people whilst that was happening

And I choose to move, I kept trying to play since the point of that meeting but NOTHING changed. No one was willing to go to other boardlands. TDA did a bit but other then them all seemed happy with their safe homezone. What am I meant to do? Just quit the game rather then go somewhere where we can play how we want?

Oh and I dont rely on a zerg. It was you that zerged LoE
We went of on our own, 9 people, to Hills. Managed to breach the outter but then about 30 of you came along if not more. If only had that response in other boardlands I would have stayed on gunnars.
So yes, I like AG numbers as they let me do other things that I find enjoyable instead of being inside an owned keep all the time.

And remember to put them pictures up on your wall, it be a collectors item! Though I am regularly out on my own I dont do that often. Only when Im trolling people that zerging me and too slow to actually immobliise/stun etc

Lol nice one
TBH this rivalry is giving me some enjoyment again

Firstly RoF are pretty much fave for this match. was known before hand that was likely to happen.

And thanks for the fun gunnars. Personally I wasnt interested in keeps but that was a laugh at Longview. Was in stitches at all the dead bodies from both sides as I eventually wander off alive when everyone else was dead (was on my thief for world completion which is now done so she is retired again). It was the open field fights I enjoyed out of all that.

LoE players mainly lasted 20minutes as we never have reset presence since our main late nighters have inet/heatlh issues currently. But I have stayed about at vale camp, semi afk at the invunrablity hill. Been funny how many people are insistant on trying to kill someone waving at them
Ran out for a couple 1vs2 or 1vs1 however it led to lots more turning up so ran back. Hard for a naked player to kill that many you know

Glad to see so many on the GH boarders, usual expected parties and at the cost of all others as normal (other than eb but i dont count that as it self serving). But I said all along, even with the GH bitterness, I got nothing against the players left on the server however there simply not enough to guard GH and go out to other boardlands. Keep up the good work, sure there be many more enjoyable fights.

Made the most of the matchup as could considering being completely outmanned most the time by germans, though have to thank KISS for this little army:

A golem army made with one purpose. Get garrison and cliffside so that i can get 100% map completion for the red boardland. Worked a treat

Pffft, why would people fight on a losing server when they can queue out on Piken and then run 40 people chasing 5 around all day. Especially when those 40 were there before the 5 even arrived just sitting waiting. lol

Nid, from what I saw we had about 4 people in the other boardlands beyond GH and EB. Was horrid :p

Still, had a nice fight between 2 and 4am when took Lake with 5 of us, then sent 30 back to recap it. Then we took briar off them too whilst they retook lake. Then we went back to Lake and got zerged rotten. Then we returned again and just farmed the 15-20 people inside it that was scared of the 5 of us

Finished off by finally retaking it when the left to safe Bay from the Pikens. But then we probably lost it as the only 6 people in the zone loggged :P

cant be bothered to try sort quotes out from that.

Syndic that match you references the 6am thing for. You forgetting that some of us players stayed online till 6am or beyond so you had something to come on for. We cant do both times ya know.
Infact I stayed till 6.30am, took an entire enemy map and held it, reinforcements never came to map as they wanted to pvdoors instead. Couldnt stay there any longer, but 30minutes later we had lost the entire map of upgraded keeps because the “6am push” didnt want to defend keeps, they wanted to attack them.

It works both ways you know. I can pick up on all the bad you done. It were always going to have an affect on our ranking and guess what we all knew it. If people that cover 1 BL leave and there no replacements then of course the server suffers. The remaining could only cover 2 BLs, done a good job of that infact even though outmanned most times. Doesnt matter what guilds left it be the same, numbers count and when you cant cover a map you own nothing and thus lose a lot of points. And then when you do get to go there you got a tougher fight as it upgraded and defended keeps to deal with.

So please, you werent the be all and end all for gunnars. We have had a very enjoyable time since you left even with loses. But we won some as well. And every match we be outgunned in terms of players in WvW.
The remaining guilds all have good ability but just lack the manpower to get wins. The drop through ranks is nothing to do with your skill or remaining players lack of it. It about numbers and numbers alone.

So sorry to burst your bubble. You may be good, but you are not that good, you were merely one contributing factor to our early success when 24/7 cover was not a necessity. And I know you will disagree with this because you cant accept there were people beyond you contributing, so lets agree to disagree until you go to a server where it is just your “6-7 guilds” vs the 2 other servers and you can prove how you and your friends single handedly can retain a server in tier 4 of the rankings during 7day matches (using just the players your guilds had whilst on gunnars and no more)

:)

I concur this is a bad week for gunnars, i had planned to take it easy and do more pve this week but now i dont know if that is a good idea now with all the people leaving. Really is disappointing to see.

2month more or less we tried to steady the ship and get a good flow of things going again. We got a good community but just not enough WvW players. We are a high pop server with miniscule pop WvW players.

Now, after 3 days of playing piken, not knowing how the match would turn out I openingly said to my guild “If we ever do leave, Piken is my choice”. Now we were regularly beating you still at that point and more then holding our own in primetime so was nothing to do with the winning/losing (hell i pick outmanned zone all the time so used to losing ), it was about the perceived community and attitude of the server. That matters more, you could see seeking 24/7 coverage and moving up the ranks didnt matter to you, it was good fights you wanted. That is how I play, I play to win but not at the sake of all else.

Im still here, Im still going to do my best for the server but it is going to be hard to recover. Outmanned on 3/4 of the maps at primetime and only a handful of guilds you can count on, unfortunatly most of them cant even field 10 people.

Doesnt matter what tactics we use etc, when 90% of the people we do have are “pug’s”/Solo players there isnt much we can do. hard to split forces when most are just running around like lemmings

Hopefully people rally together, we will see. But unfotunately too many people have shown they are fair weather/ship jumpers and so the tough task we faced has now got even harder

Erro.2784:

Piken is for serious roleplaying only. Only those who have killed Zhaitan can be accepted.

Exceptions can be made for those that cannot resist popping bubble wrap!

Yeahy \o/
I have killed Zhaitan… and due to that will never run the dungeon again because im a true roleplayer (lol I think thats a good excuse to use on my guildies :p )

And pass the bubble wrap

Believe me, if I ever moved server with my guild it would be to piken. I just really enjoy the fights with you even if you zerg my kitten off half the time

Also the chats I have had with some people are really fun, bit of banter as well as generalised good chats.

Im a commander, and to be honest I dread to think what your servers are like if you worry about this.

I enter a zone. see whats happening. Decide if i will use it, or simply not use it. Various reasons dictate the decison. Including what other commanders are on the map, if i been asked to run the commander icon or not, if i trust the players i have seen on the map, how many of my guild i have with me … etc etc etc.

It is not hard for people to learn who are the good commanders, and who are the bad ones. If you dont like one, dont follow one. If it the only one there then it may attract people to them and affect the server ability to do well but if they are as bad as you think then no noe would follow them anyways as they wouldnt want to waste their time doing nothing.

Infact, I have been in zones where there actually 5-8 commanders on the map, and yet only 2 of them turn it on in order to not confuse the situation. So clearly it comes down to server attitude, rather then a commander issue.

For me, commander isnt a status symbol though. People know me with or without it switched on and I will discuss strategies with the current commander based on the situation and we come to a conclusion on what is best based on what we all think. But then I also ask my guild “ok folks, what do you want to do now” whilst we out in WvW as even though they funded my commander tag, I have it for THEM and not myself. Just makes things easier for us when we have a larger number of us out, or the server needs a more focused run on the map thus activating the blue zerg creator button

Had a great laugh tonight playing from about 17:00 to 00:30.

Started on AM. Tried to sneak hills with 2 golems but Boon and the rest (30+) caught us at the lord room. Knew I should have made 3 golems but couldnt be bothered to wait. Was a good attempt given only 10 of us and we were spawn camped and outmanned.

Went to Piken where we had the ability to spread out. Some really fun fights there for awhile and held the bottom section of the map from a constantly Piken onslaught. The seige on bay lasted for ages but for some reason you went to our supply camp just as we breached the inner and thus lost it whilst we held you up there.
Of course, 4-5trebs made short work of our bay walls but some great fights, and you recalled BOON to come help cap it. That was my call to move LoE back to AM.

3 golems, quick movement to hills, and we captured the keep inside a couple minutes… and yet BOON managed to get back on the map, and back inside the keep. Luckily in what must have been the funniest fight had all matchup, your portal into lord room was predicted and spotted. A single balista done a bit of damage to your guys and a full on Bennie Hill moment started as BOON and co chased us around the outside of the room as we slowly wittled their numbers down. Bloody great fun, we even had the music going in our TS as it went on. lol.

After that managed to take all the south as BOON appeared to leave again. Was a seige on Bay whilst LoE defended hills from the germans. Wiped germans. Germans then went to Bay and wiped the people trying to capture that. We let AM drop the the doors and go in and we followed them through. Did not expect them to kill lord so quick but i guess there was no Piken left, so i charged into lord room and stopped the capture on the final tick. Got downed but rallied as my guild and the rest of zerg then came in and dropped people. Was very very lucky to get it there but was funny.

Once again AM hit hills, so LoE ran over and defended there again then took the north east supply camp. By this time we hear AM on bay again and outter down. Start way back however having got inside outter part of the keep it flipped. We held at north outter but ended up about 40 AM vs 20 GH. 10minute battle and our lines were being broken so I done what any good mesmer does … ran bravely away. Attempts to hide didnt work. AM were everywhere. In the end a group of 30 chased me around the keep for over 5minutes. Portals went up left right and centre, when i thought i lost them someone else would spot me and it began again. Eventually the 2nd mesmer in the keep managed to port 20 people in and I ditched the enemy onto them.

With battle raging on the battlement it seemed a stalemate. GH trapped with no where to go. AM standing their ground with bigger numbers but more spread. Finally I arrived and stuck a portal behind their lines and ran to our ball of people. Most ported behind them and broke their line completely and decimated it.
Finally we managed to take the keep back again and spread throughout the rest of the map.

But even though the rest of the takes were pretty uneventful, those 2 fights will stick in my memory as some the funniest and most fun moments of the game so far

Thanks everyone for the good fights, even if I troll some people that spawn camp with messages just for a laugh (i love some the reactions i get of the campers, it makes staying in zone worth while. heh)… anyways yes no matter what, this has been one the best matchups played in so far.

p.s. Sorry about the LoE portal suicide squad on your 5 or 6 catapults at Bay on piken. Just had to do it even though I knew it would lead to the treb building at garrison

Piken primetime force = strongest (more pvp focused guilds of decent size)
Gunnars later night force (01:00-03:00) = strongest most nights
AM’s early morning/day force = strongest

Though primetime piken lead is normally only a small amount, you still have the stronger forces that pick on the weakest enemy (good tactic but annoying as that means it me as i pick outmanned bl ) … though will you hold onto the lead you got through the weekend? Hmmm not sure. Think the day and/or night difference will mean you lose it to one of the others if not both… but you are far from being the weekest server.

Definately going to be a very good week. I been doing PvE so far today but hope to play some WvW later as been fun each day so far

Let me get this right. You complaining that you have to go to 4 maps to get a few skills and points of interest.

Do you see pvp focused players coming into all the PvE areas spamming how it is unfair that we have to do dozens of zones, hundreds of hearts/skillpoints/PoI’s etc etc to get world completion when the world to them consists only of the pvp zones?

Could go on and on about things a PvP may not want to do but has to in order to get certain things but that would take a long time to do so

Reann.9480:

PS BL seems to always be full when VII forums up. We have been “forced” to spend our evenings in AM BL… Or are you guys avoiding that BL on purpose? Have seen only some LoE tags around.

LoE been in the AM boarderland often. Mostly completely outmanned by both VII (PS) and AM.
Always is a struggle as we not a pvp focused guild but we do the best we can with limited numbers (ie 10 or less ) however I rather fight an uphill struggle then join the 1 or 2 boardlands that has a big queue because we are dominating them.

Does mean I havent been getting to work alongside the people I normally do which means tactics go out the window (it is hard to get people to not auto attack a wall kitten lol) .. but we manage to get some movement through the zone and it is nice to go from owning nothing to owning the bottom corner against all odds!

Still, VII, can you stop being mean and smashing into me when I am fighting the germans

simple answer. join the squad of one you like, rest disappear.

Voting to hide it from everyone will just encourage griefing “I dont like so and so, friends you all need to vote to take their tag away”

Had a fun fight at reset. Really good laugh against the Piken on their BL.

Ultimately you managed to take your whole border but what a massive long drawn out fight of tug-o-war on that west side of the map. Unfortunately the Germans didnt really turn up there (or ran off else where quickly) so you were completely focused on us, but I think that is why it was so good.

I really look forward to our battles over the week and thanks for the chats to the few enemy I spoke to whilst I was the last remaining person in the zone after your takeover

p.s. Look forward to seeing the scores in the morning, though i expect the germans will do the same as last week and do an early morning takeover

Nice video, and I have a cameo appearance including dancing and jumping….. hmmm that is about right for my playstyle

Its ok. We just went and got the orbs back. lol.
Unfortunately one of them cant be placed in the fully upgraded keep that we held from 5pm gmt because the alter cant be repaired. But nevermind.

Sure they will hack it yet again overnight and leave another unusable alter etc. but i guess they need to do something when they are so poor in open fights

@IonicBlaze.7948

so i take it the 3 orbs taken out from Gunnars hold owned keeps and flown to the east of the map to unaccessable areas was bugged guards too?

Oh and the 30-40man german zerg that followed onto the server just after the hacked orbs just a co-incidence?
Oh, and i got a screenshot of the orb over the german citedal from the first night of the match if you want. Im sure you understand the concept that it is a place the orb can not legitimately be!?

Oh and dont forget the hacking earlier today, followed by the contact with some german players… who basically just laughed and told people to bugger off they dont care it was hacked!

This picture clearly shows the orbs placed outside the playable area of the map thanks to noclipping after the flyhack removal.

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/19055/gw017.jpg

Saskia – I take it you are an AG player? Trying to figure it from a couple of posts.

Just so you know, GH has a server wide mumble channel. It only a couple weeks old and we still trying to get people to use it but there are a number of people that do so. Believe me when I say it is not always a good thing to have as it can be so distracting if people keep going offtopic. If i want an easy night i turn it off and stick just to guild TS. But server wide definately has its uses and you will see some of it tomorrow night possibly

Heh, I like you think GH is a walkover. Given that in the fights Im involved in it seems Im often outnumbered at least 2:1 and come out victorious against both Aurora and Abbaddon.

Of course, lose some too. But I rarely run from an open field fight if I got a few of my guild with me. We happily try to show randoms there no reason to run from superior numbers, and it is great fun. Infact just an hour ago was fighting outside Aurora garrison. Was afk outside a moment (well was looking on the map), shut down map and see im down to half health and 5 enemy hitting me. Add to that the 6 going for a guildy. Heal up, down 2 players quickly (guards all dead by now btw). 3 more LoE and 1 random come along at this point. Push the enemy back. Ended up 15vs6 in Aurora favor. Ended up 0vs6. All died with 0 loses.

Repeat this in multiple scenerios. Both bigger and smaller fight sizes. Seems to be you loaded up with lots of glass builds.

That said good fights and end of week going to be interesting on scores I think.

Unfortunately this match has already been ruined by hackers for me, and the german behaviour after said hacking made my opinion of them rather poor. No wonder they an upcoming server with the tactics.

So we had the match reset… get the orb in the german frontier… 5minutes later. Orb reset, hacker in the room. Then the orb is flying across the map, over the citedal (you know that place the orb cant enter!) and back to their alter.
So a decent server would go “clear hack” and let the opponents get it back. The germans took their zerg and tried to stop the retake and chased all the way back to hills. Unfortunately for them we ran slight different tactic and the orb carrier was protected from the worst of it.

Then yesterday at 17:30ish. Germans outnumber us at greenlake 7:1 or worse. We holding them off though. What do they do. A mesmer FLYS into the lord room and their zerg port into lord room and take the tower. Of course they all say they didnt know it was cheats portal… but do they hand the tower back? nope. They defend it and say “please stop messaging us about someone cheating we cant stop them”. Sorry but you take advantage of it and dont rectify the situation then you no better.

If GH did cheat, then please get me the information as to when, where, guild involved etc etc and I see what I can do with it. But I not been on today as spent it with the wife.

Keep an eye out on the “Garrison waterway vista glitch”. Saw the russians use that more then once to get to the inner door without hitting the outter at all. They often do it on mass.

Other then that and the odd “bad egg”, it fun fighting them. Maybe it because all xaoc seem to be glass cannon spec and often get a bunch of kills before dying when greatly outnumbered

And kitten you CiR for having fun :p

Aye. Until they fix this issue with their hack detection the orbs should be removed. Last night when the GH held orb was hacked out our possession we lost 80% or so of our force and it stopped all the great co-ordination we had in keeping the entire map secured.
From the sounds of things, by a post on the other forum, this happened partly to Gandara as well today however at this time of day they managed to fill in them numbers and rip the map apart. Hoping that they get the orb back as I have had to log out and cant stand there… shame though it destroyed all the work of GH as it turned the focus onto our limited holdings

Information gathered:

Apparently whilst defending Bay from attack, the orb was “found” on the floor within the keep. The person instantly put it into the alter so it can not be retrieved to give to you.

Currently I am semi afk just standing by the alter in hope that the lightening starts hitting the alter. The moment that it is broken I will run the orb towards Hills. I will take it via Greenbriar through the island so if you see the orb moving that way allow me to drop it on the floor so it doesnt do the amazing disappearance act it sometimes does when carrier dies.

I can remain there about 30minutes but will request everyone else to keep an eye out to return it as soon as we can.

doesnt bother me, guildies hand a ton of their seige over to my main character anyways so i got no need to go collecting them on alts :p

Thanks for returning the orb Vex. Was hoping when the altar got destroyed it would happen. Hence posting the scenerio.

See you on the battlefield tomorrow for the final evening of fun. Even outmanned and losing there have been some outstanding fights. Especially enjoyed the 3 way, 40minute, garrison lord room fight on Tuesday.

Glad to hear it. Exactly what I hoped the people would do. And thank you GH players. Once again you have proven our community is one of the best in terms of trying to win without any form of abuse

If anything this situation has actually re-enforced my will to stay with the people on the server as not even 1 cheat can stop us doing the right thing

unfortunately van, im not surprised it was used to derail this thread.
If people with an orb hacking complant use the thread linked above I would be grateful as this is the first time I have known an orb to be hacked by gunnar’s and it is not an indication of our playstyle. We would rather fight hard and fair losing then to cheat our way to anything.

If the orb could be removed and handed over I would do so. The only chance of that is that you take the quaggans and hope the lightening destroys the alter. People paid alot of money to upgrade the garrison and may (or may not) be responsable for what happened and I dont want innocent people to lose their investment. Of course we could let you break down the doors, take the orb, and leave without taking the keep but organisation of that level wouldnt be possible (even with the new server mumble there are 90% not using it yet).

So, we cant resolve the situation currently. Your nightforce will take it back anyways which is good a thing for once. Again, we apologise it happened and if anyone in LoE finds out who done it I can assure you they will be reported… however we been in Barach Bay this evening so was clueless this even happened till now.

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On topic. The mumble is begining to get used now. had about 30people from a single battleground in the channel today which is a good start. Decent amount of success on the BB frontier even though we generally were outnumbered. Was a good effort by everyone and Thank you to everyone both in and out of the RV alliance that helped make tonight enjoyable

Well 2 of 4 maps often have no queues currently. If there an event being run then that map may have a 15-30min queue. Nothing more though (unless you get buggy queue that keeps you in it whilst letting others ahead).

Basically there been no real server community, with all the server hopping going on it isnt a surprise… but now it has been decided we should actually make more of an effort in that regards. Just need people to get onto the official unofficial forum for GH and start using that and mumble in WvW zones so we can communicate quicker.

Unfortunately for the server, when I was sleeping I was nominated to run the first “Server WvW event” where various alliances have been invited. This will happen next week and details will be on the forum at the end of the first post. You do not have to be in a guild or an alliance to attend though. Get signed up to the forum and take it from there.

I will be using mumble to communicate if i remember to press the right key and dont transmit only to guild TS … but I will put some messages in /team also. I dont often run large scale raids as always been more focused on leading the guild team then the server as a whole. However people seem to like it when I do try to do a bit more so I am happy to step up for this and get us working together again.

Remember, this is a learning experience for everyone but if we stick together then we can achieve alot.