Im mostly a soloQ and I enjoy the challenge of ranked. I consider my self experienced and skilled based on my past success in terms of win/lose ratio (Im close to having the Campion Brawler title).
However, this season I started soloQing and I got into a losing streak of 15 in a row in one day and 35 in a row the second day…..
Games are being lost by really BIG margins, my team mates usually dont know how to rotate, dont know how to focus a target , most dont even know when to fight and went to support other fights…
Its a total mess, games dont feel winnable to the point that I dont que for ranked anymore….
What happened there? How can I get out of the losing spiral? clearly something is wrong with the matchmaking system and thats why ppl are raging in the forums…
How can we fix the terrible game experience for those stuck with the bad players even while they are not bad players?
This has been one of the Important issues they never address…… ANET says that it is extremely hard work to make a pvp map because of detail, logic etc etc…. to justify the slow rate of new content for sPvP… But that is only an admission that they as a company are incapable of keeping up with the needs of the game.
This is just one of the many problems that has been pointed out for years…
The problem with this game is the company…. They are really good at updating pve content and the gem store… but terrible at communicating with player base, terrible at customer service and terrible at addressing urgent issues. That’s simply a core problem of ANET they lack people with vision.
Typical PvP players (includes WvW and sPvP) are not happy, if they are not happy, they eventually stop playing, if they stop playing, game dies…… You can update the gem store every day… and that wont matter if u don’t have people to buy your products.
I joined the guild and it was great I made groups with nice people and won some games…
lets bump this topic!
While I respect the fact that they do work hard, and lets face it. When you’ve really worked at something, it has to be hard to take when people slate it.
I don’t hate the league, I just think as good of an idea as it was, it’s not really set up for solo play. Lets face it not everyone wants to.make a team, or has the time to be in a team. I think it would be good of ANet to admit that it’s not quite worked out to everyone’s liking, and that yes the system has treated some people poorly and other a little too well. But as with all things in life, for every person who hates it, there are those who love it. Normally the people who love something are the ones getting the better deal out of it.
This season really shows that is true. The people riding high on the “win wave” think there is nothing wrong with the system. While the people in losing streak hell, hate it with the power of a million suns.
You can’t make anyone listen to anything really, sure they can hear you, but they normally ignore everything you say, untill it’s too late.
The purpose of the OP is to discuss creative ways to make ANET understand and act about game issues. Not to discuss if its possible or necessary.
Lets get creative, lets discuss innovative and creative ways to do it… Since complaining on the forums or even giving them appropriate feedback on forums doesn’t seem to be working.
I’ll start by saying that ANET developers need to actually play the game so they can see by themselves what are the problems.
They have more data than we ever will without even first playing the game.
I admit communication is poor lately, but doesn’t mean they’re not doing anything. This game is unfortunately larger than just sPVP, and it seems devs as far as resources are concerned, are far and few in between as of late.
They have more data but macro management and micro management are 2 different things. And there are very important details of micromanagement that are essential for the health of the community that has not been addressed or has been addressed waayyyyyyyy tooo late and the solutions just damage another aspect of the game…
However, the OP purpose is not to judge ANET or discuss specific. The OP purpose is to discuss creative ways to reach ANET attention and make them act. Since providing feedback on the forums or complaining in posts doesn’t seem to do much.
This season, playing well is awarded with better teammates, which one is more fair? [/quote]
Aenesthesia, these are my basic rules when I pvp. Please tell me if you really think I’m a player that should be losing 90% of my games.
1. Never ever go into 1v1 fight for an enemy controlled point.
2. Always go to help +1 fights
3. Cap far ONLY if its empty (its better to just decap it and go back to help ur team)
4. If u wipe enemy team, NEVER GO FAR because they will rez and zerg u.
5. Resurrecting a team-mate is faster and better than stomping an enemy unless u have Stability/invuln
6. Read team chat
7. Always look at minimap
These are some of the basic rules I always follow, Im not going too depth for this post but u should get an idea of the type of player I am. Not counting that I have a ton of sPvP experience and a historically good win/loss ratio while soloQ or teamQ
So why am I getting punished? shouldn’t be me one of the players who are trying to play their best to win? Thus, being rewarded with similar teammates?
Do you really think that someone should be losing 90% of their games by playing like that…. That is clearly not normal…. I would expect someone to be at least winning 40/50% of their games… by just following those rules…
Not to mention that Because of losing games I’m stuck with bad players who promote more losing streaks for me….
Is that your idea of a fair matchmaking system?
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Lol… Will ANET even pay attention with the billion posts about WvW and sPvP problems?
Will they see the Elephant on the room or will they wait and silence until they lose 50% of the players before considering changing their strategy…
I’ll start by saying that ANET developers need to actually play the game so they can see by themselves what are the problems.
…. that we have a massive problem with their experimental sPvP matchmaking.
So, ANET is characterized for their lack of connection with the community and their capability to allocate their resources in non-essential aspects of the game while the urgent matters are unanswered or unattended for months/years.
What do you guys think that would be a good way to force ANET developers to take action and LISTEN to us?
Please keep your answers short and respectful.
Thief is a great 1v1 class, but different builds help different playstyles.
If you want to focus on 1v1 fights u can do it, or u can focus on supporting team fights with high burst by hit and run style, you will down enemies really fast.
However, thiefs are squishy, that being said, u should never ever be fighting anyone if u cant put smoke fields and restealths properly.
I was a good WoW rogue and a decend thief here in gw2, I have seen thiefs taking out 2 and 3 enemies constantly…. However, Thief learning curve is very high… but once u get it working it wont cange… u will be good using any build u want.
Dont get discourage by the meta… Meta is overrated imo…. if you wanna go serious with premades and voice comm or compete Meta is a must… but your skills as a thief and a build that fits your playstyle are a lot more important than a meta comp or a meta build.
At the end of the day, Meta builds are originated by creative players who tested many stuff and they came out with great builds that are later adopted by most of the community.
In my case I always use variants from meta builds that are switted for me….. I even have a non Meta guardian that is incredibly effective at team fights and 1v1s.
Anyway, if you wanna practice a few stuff, add me in game ill get on my thief try to identify what might be causing u troubles.
If you decide to go try another game, that’s ok Gl. current state of ranked pvp is a shame… however, Unranked pvp still nice and fun.
Yasi.. The following are the essential rules in sPvP.
1. Never ever go into 1v1 fight for an enemy controlled point.
2. Always go to help +1 fights
3. Cap far ONLY if its empty (its better to just decap it and go back to help ur team)
4. If u wipe enemy team, NEVER GO FAR because they will rez and zerg u.
5. Resurrecting a team-mate is faster and better than stomping an enemy unless u have Stability/invul
6. Read team chat
7. Look at your minimap
W/e the game plan is… everyone should follow these basic rules….
Guys, seriously….. This madness have nothing to do with skill…. I have been consistently top 100 on leaderboard, I have thousands of games played with multiple classes, I study my classes and mastered my builds…. I learned rotations from professional teams video guides and THAT has been my play-style for years….
My win lose ratio as soloQ has been about 65%…. However, in this season I had back luck at the first days and I go stuck with people who don’t read team chat, afk mid game, cant rotate, cant 1v1 and all type of bad players problems…. Despite Im contributing a lot, I’m stuck in this losing spiral losing 90% of my games…. and trust me, based on my past experience this should not be happening…..
How can it be my fault? I can’t control being teamed with worst players every time I lose a game…. There is no way out unless I premade… It wasn’t like that in the past, It takes away a very important aspect of the game and It only push people away from sPvP.
The problem has nothing to do with skill… the problem is that this system is now forcing you to play as a pre-made in order to stand a chance…… And THAT is simply wrong.
The majority of people who play this game are casual players and prefer to soloQ …. why punish them in order to benefit a small percent of the community?
I agree the OP…. enough with the “get good, get better” learn how the current system works before posting baseless arguments.
The Far capper dilema!
Far is a legitimate plan only if its the plan…… u either go for sides, or mid/home but u CANT get both game plans at the same time or its gg.
Hello, I play this game since release and PvP was great always, but ANET decided to test some stuff out with the actual PvP season and apparently they kittened things up. So for not try to avoid playing Ranked matches. You can start playing practice matches at the pvp server list and when u get better u can go play unranked.
On the other hand, You are playing against a lot of experienced people since the game is 3 years old. So take your time to learn about ur class, check ur class forums, watch youtube videos, visit Metabattle website for decent builds and explanations and practice practice practice. You can also talk to experienced Daredevil players for tips and help. I have some thief experience if u need any help I can give u a hand. Thief is a hard class to master so, take your time to learn it.
The gear req is great because no one will have advantage in terms of stats. I love that.
Good luck!
Excellent post, it offers some hope…
I’ll contact you in game.
Based on Anet historical record of destroying what works and changing what doesnt need change….
Don’t be so optimistic about a future balance patch… this company seems to be incapable of fixing anything……
First they destroyed WvW and now they are trying really hard to destroy whats left of sPvP….
ANET how many complaining post you need before actually fixing the matchmaking system.
Here’s a simple solution, Match people against similarly MMR teams, don’t push losing people all together in the same party…. segregate them….
Why is it so hard?
Until this madness gets fixed I’m out of the PvP league…
Im so dissatisfied with this game…. and its f————-king mediocre company…….
Yet Im resisting to quit because there was one aspect of the game that I enjoyed… It was sPvP… but everything changed now…
This S h—-it is getting old way to fast..
Agree, I’m going to have to start testing other games, sPvP was the last enjoyable thing i was doing on this game since they destroyed WvW….
There is a total disconnection between the devs an the player base…. look at all these forum post pointing out the same problems… yet Anet seems incapable to solve them….
This company have a problem differentiating important vs necessary. And necessary changes are rarely made and when they are made, no attention to us the customers who actually play their kitten game.
Im not the problem, if there is one person playing bad, the games would be close or at least 100~ pts advantage… but this is just 500 – 35, 500 – 200, 500-100…. that kind of loses all day, is not 1 person bad playing style. It is clearly matchmaking.
Anyway…. it is pointless to give them feedback… Anet have shown to be incapable of fixing anything… they just make it worst every time they touch something in this game.
I’m an experienced sPvP player since game release, I normally soloQ or small party and it has never been an issue, usually 50/50 win/lose ratio
Ranked matches as soloQ used to be playable.. now my teams keep getting destroyed all day…
Anet… What the h….. u did to matchmaking? who told u that matching higher mmr teams with lower mmr was a good idea?
Please stop systematically destroying this fine game….
It is not fun anymore….
This is the type of forum posts that produces nothing…. If you are serious about giving feedback please take a look to the “good feedback guide” in the general forum.
Otherwise your comment will just be ignored at best….
After playing for a few hours it came back to normal,
probably the MMR was not stable after a patch or something.
Now it seems normal, I’m winning half or most matches as solo ques.
Matchmaking seems to be working fine now
Thanks for your answers guys! specially sunshine, i’ll take ur advice and see if it start normalizing!
I’ve been losing 90% of my solo ques by very large margins, in contrast to past week when i was wining 50-60% …
What changed?
Totally Agree.
PvP turned into a boring “locked in a map” activity…. that is not enjoyable and that is a common perception ANET.
This must change ASAP.
All we want is being able to do other things like map completion/custom arenas or w/e instead of being locked in the HoTMist waiting…
Thanks to that I get easily discouraged to play so I Afk/logout to do something else in my over the internet.
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Sorry Justin, but I’m a very active PvPer and I have lost interest in tPvP since a few days/weeks ago I started feeling something different with the matchmaking.
I normally play SoloQ or 2 person party, and before last week, my games felt very balanced in terms of the matchmaking and group fights felt “winnable”, but now I feel I am playing against people with a whole different (higher) skill level… I also see that I’m getting a lot of games against full pre-mades or 4 person parties while im soloQ or 2 person party….. Why is that? Organized groups have a big advantage against solo players even if the solo players are more skilled.
I don’t know if I am biased, right or wrong.. all I know is that this does not feel right…. nor fun… or balanced… it’s starting to make my lose my interest in tPvP which is the most enjoyable activity I experienced in this game.
Totally agree with OP. Let us make something else while waiting please………… standing in the mist waiting for next game makes me feel bored, tired and wasting my time….
People, stay on topic.
I support the suggestions made.
Dragon finisher is indeed too grey and crappy… The dragon could bigger, have other colors and be more violent… a lot more violent… For example, spitting fire on the downed for a couple seconds then stand on the corps like smashing it with its legs.. and then leave by flying doing an impressive terrifying sound… You know… Something that makes the finisher of a Dragon ranked player more….. significant and admirable.
I will be honest. Im pretty new on this game… only rank 17 at spvp and I will tell u guys, I’m having tons of fun with my ranger..
Those that say rangers are bad and complain about how bad their abilities are only show how bad they are at playing the ranger.
I consider my self a newb on this game and im being first 3 almost every spvp match I play. My strat? Simple. I read about my class, practice different specs and create new specs by myself according to my playstyle and I have tons of fun. Rangers are great when people learn how to use them. Complaining wont make u better… but worst.
When u understand the problem is not the ranger but instead the way u play it then you will become a better ranger.