Guild Wars 2

I’m curious to know if it would be all that hard to do the following:

Designate something like 30-50 guilds voluntarily as “mercenary guilds” that are told their server designation per one or two weeks, something like an hour before WvW reset. These guilds could reach out to a server’s teamspeak if desired and temporary permissions could be given, etc. These guilds would then fight for whatever server they are on and hopefully by the end of it a couple things are accomplished…

1) the mercenary guilds get what they want in variety of matchup (can’t get more variety than this possibly)

2) Servers maintain their community while essentially adding a megaserver component

3) Since you would want to add a big guild to a lower tier server and a smaller guild for a higher tier, there would be less of a discrepancy between gold and t8 which I think would be a good thing.

4) Bottom tier servers won’t constantly have to be picked apart from other servers because numbers will be better balanced.

Effectively, you are evening out the odds manually without having to mess around too much with the mechanics of the game itself.

The unfortunate part is really just the perception.

People don’t like to loose and in our case our victory or defeat is completely out of our hands. With population decline of any form, it puts strain on the lower tiers. While this game has definitely lost popularity, it is still outstandingly strong in my opinion.

Really do need something to be done soon though because the only thing I don’t find enjoyable about WvW is watching people want to stay on our team and in our community while wanting to leave at the same time due to consistently losing and unmatchable odds.

Would really prefer that my server doesn’t get bandwagoned but it would be really appreciated for something external be done for us… for once.

And that also means don’t open free transfers to servers ranked wayyyy higher than us for some reason.

Ya the events have been a lot of fun. A great thing about ET that some new transfers talk about is just how guilds all work together on the server and try to help out as much as possible. Many different guilds are hosting all different kinds of events.. Some of these include Necro nights, tactics training, Charr zergs, an amazing race and all kinds of interesting stuff.

Invite everyone to check us out.

Still need a couple more players (a Necro or two would be great!!!!).

But ya, having a lot of fun, we hosted a advanced tactics training day on ET and always looking to get new players into WvW and bring them up to speed on some zerg busting tactics.

ET as a server is in a rebuilding mode, hosting nearly daily events to bring us closer and make us a stronger server overall. If you are interested in joining a community and want a competitive but chill guild to roll with check out Nob and check out Eredon Terrace!

Thanks!

Personally Botan, I only rep one guild at a time (been repping Nob for prob 5-6 months now) because I feel like it cheapens being a guild to rep more than one.

That said though, I want people to enjoy the game as much as possible and if my guild isn’t particular active at the moment, I don’t see any reason to force representation. As for what the majority of people do, it totally depends. Some bounce often, some stick with repping just one guild.

Starting to get more competitive!

The goal with Nob WvW is to become a zerg busting squad but at the same time not be too intense or exclusive. We wanna be effective, so as far as you want to go with us to reach that goal the better!

Stealthy (Palefinger) beat me to it!

:)

Sent ya a mail Botan

Hey there Ztier,

Will contact ya in game here in a bit!

One of my more favorite guilds to play against. Makes me laugh every time I see the tag and I can admit I’ve lost a time or two to em

Much love from an ET commander.

Super server to be on.

Tonight we had the outnumbered buff almost all night and through intense coordination with our strongest WvW guild we held our own in 3 bls.

Outnumbered Buff all night tonight in eternal… bags aplenty.

Join our chill but competitive squad!

Sent ya a mail in game about my guild [Nob] on Eredon Terrace!

My two best buddies that I play with most often are a husband and wife duo so I’d bet ya fit right in with our squad.

Jeknar.6184:

I do gathering… Iron/Platinum ores and Soft/Hard wood logs are my income.

And it’s even funnier when I do that while tagged up, because everyone just stay there staring at me like if I’m doing somenthing outrageous…

Haven’t seen you tag in ages bud!

I loose about 5g per couple of hours in WvW. Gotta buy those pots of lemongrass!

DAoC remains my favorite video game of all time.

That said, Gw2 WvW blows it out of the water. WvW on gw2 actually works for one thing. Balance is superb and bugs limited. All I play is WvW and I think its great.

The biggest thing that holds back Gw2 WvW is lack of updates and the community. All you fools who transfer off servers kill the entire point of the bloody game which is to have a team and a community. Having such an easy transfer process and absurd number differences from tier 1 to t8 kills WvW. By and large the game isn’t the problem, its the players who play it.

CboStL.4965:

Bubbles.4937:

Fatal.2619:

Join ET today and get in on the action before the new season begins!

If you are looking for an opprotunity to make a huge impact on a small but a hardcore group of WvWers look no further than ET.

If you like a small group roam / havock style team we got you covered.

If you are interested in joining a true WvW zerg busting group we got you covered.

If you just want to transfer to a server for a breath of fresh air come on over.

We dont rely on #"s to win. Our strength is in our abilty to work together as a server.

Take a min to check out our website http://eredonterrace.enjin.com/

Does your post hear mean that your “cunning” plan to move servers recruit then move back to ET has failed? Seriously how could people refuse your charm and mapchat abuse?
What ET needs is a night crew back. Until then we will continue to loose just like this week which puts us firmly back into 24th.

This is supposed to be your recruitment thread.

That argumentative and defeatist attitude does nothing to sway someone on the fence about returning to their original home.

Agreed 100%! Know people checking this thread out that actual ET players don’t have this attitude. We’d be in a lot worse shape if it was the case!

The guilds that I have seen come and go never cite the community as a reason to leave. Just like any server, guilds come and go. Keep it fresh and keep it fun!

Encourage people to try ET for a while

Bump for Nob! Having a lot of fun helping a server down on its luck!

Tons of Americans on ET.

Wanna join us? ;p

Its just crazy to me that they don’t make some sort of effort to balance the servers. Personally, I don’t think server merges are in order, but just take some from the top and give to the bottom and bam won’t be a stale matchup again!

Also, why are there EU servers? Now that would be kinda interesting.. merge the EU servers with the NA ones (and find good counterparts) and there ya go also.

Great guild! Join em!

Hello Nlevesque,

From the sounds of it, I think my guild Nobleese Oblige [Nob] would be a great fit for ya. We are a casual group that has a big PvE focus but have been getting stronger and stronger in WvW as well. We have a weekly schedule of events (WvW rallies, guild missions) of which attendance isn’t mandatory or anything like that (we also don’t require rep). My best two in game buddies are a husband and wife duo that are members of Nob as well .

So ya lemme know if you are interested! Feel free to pm me or shoot me a mail in game and I’d be happy to tell ya more about the guild.

Hope to hear back from ya!

We are really starting to do some damage and having a blast! ET has been having some vary varied match ups, we are employing good teamwork and ET is rising steadily!

Why not 5 points if you cap the current point leaders tower and 15 for a keep? that would be kinda cool I’d think.

Jeknar.6184:

Dano.5298:

Come to ET!

Hehe okay you are probably not interested in Eredon Terrace but there has been a bunch of excitement lately in ET and if you and your guild ever feel like helping a server thats been down on its luck for quite some time, we would absolutely love to have ya.

Figured I’d throw it out there hehe :P

He said EU silver/gold. Somenthing we are not.

I know!

Heya dchsknight,

If you are at all interested in transferring, my guild, Nobleese oblige [Nob] might be what you are looking for. We are a casual guild with a focus on WvW and we are currently on the server, Eredon Terrace. I like where we are at as a guild, we are very new player friendly and are getting better as a group in WvW. I don’t personally focus on pvp but I am curious about learning more.

Eredon Terrace as a server for WvW can be rough but between about 5pm – 10pm pst its quite populated. The only reason why ET isn’t ranked higher is due to having very few players on during off-hours.

One of the big professions that we are missing right now for our WvW rallies are necros btw .

But ya if you would like to know more about the guild please feel free to pm me back or shoot me a mail in game.

Thanks

Come to ET!

Hehe okay you are probably not interested in Eredon Terrace but there has been a bunch of excitement lately in ET and if you and your guild ever feel like helping a server thats been down on its luck for quite some time, we would absolutely love to have ya.

Figured I’d throw it out there hehe :P

Eredon Terrace!

We have some superb roamers and have been getting some new transfers as well. There’s a lot of excitement with ET right now

Great guild for new players or experienced players!

Fay.2357:

Dano.5298:

So you are telling me that arenanet can create a beautiful and detail rich game with really fun combat and really minimal bugs where miraculously I can play with people all around the world but they can’t make even slightly fair match ups?

There is no question in my mind that it is in large part due to the player base and their desire to play without sportsmanship but you can’t tell me arenanet can’t do anything.

This matchup was due to the random variance that Anet introduced into WvW matchups.

Do you know why Anet introduced random variance into WvW matchups? They introduced it because people like you complained non-stop about having stale matchups.

Of course, now that random variance is in the game, people also like you complain non-stop about having the occasional week of unbalanced WvW. It’s a no-win situation for Anet.

I don’t believe I’ve ever complained about having stale match ups but I appreciate your point.

So you are telling me that arenanet can create a beautiful and detail rich game with really fun combat and really minimal bugs where miraculously I can play with people all around the world but they can’t make even slightly fair match ups?

There is no question in my mind that it is in large part due to the player base and their desire to play without sportsmanship but you can’t tell me arenanet can’t do anything.

1. A solution to WvW population imbalances
2. New WvW content
3. Dwarf race and Bard/Skald profession

In terms of new WvW content, I’d like to see this:

Instead of a silly waypoint, I’d like to see you enter into the map from a heavily npc defended mega castle. These would always be at the edge of a map (so more like ebg and not like a borderland)

With this, I’d like these mega castles to be capture-able but make it extremely difficult to do so. Siege in the mega castle would be maybe a little extra effective and the guards/Lord would be extra tough. The idea would be to help make WvW feel a bit more fair by heavily outnumbered forces being able to make a legitimate stand against vastly superior numbers and almost always be able to hold something in their home area. If the castle was to be taken, it would be easier to reclaim than take. This could be done through a huge buff that initiates when you are near the castle. The castle can’t be upgraded by invading forces and you can set off a siegerazer or two to help reclaim the castle.

I’d also like to see a new “server only zone” that would basically be un-megaserver’d. This server could have guild houses, etc. Once you capture a megacastle (remember they are supposed to be VERY hard to take) enemies can then port into your server only zone and sack your server’s zone. If you are able to sack the whole zone, each player gets 30 gold or something. After the take is completed, the invading army gets ported out and the megacastle is even harder to take for that week. Maybe a 2 hour RI or something as well so that a poor server doesn’t keep getting raided over and over. Once this happens, the server that got invaded, their home zone regenerates.

oh and I’d like to see less flat maps. Hills is okay but for the most part, there are no towers in the clouds, etc.

1 guild of 10 would do it for ET.

ETs problem has for quite some time now been that right as a new guild transfers off, a new one arrives. If we could ever manage to converge those transfers for any period of time, we would be able to move up substantially in rank.

Believe it or not, but playing on ET has been a blast recently.

We have been saying and saying that all we need is a couple transfers here and there and our tier would be balanced, competitive and fun.

on t8, although I’m sure its wildly more dead than other tiers, it also isn’t at the same time because you can do more with less. If you have a small, tight knit group you can wreck.

Something to consider!

Hello SafetyMoose (great name btw) ,

I think my guild Nobleese Oblige [Nob] might be a great fit for ya. We are on Eredon Terrace and are one of the oldest guilds on the server. We aren’t too big and consist of a tightly knit group. We are a PvX, casual guild which rallies for WvW 4 times a week (4pm PDT Saturday, Tuesday Wednesday and WvW Reset). We do lots of guild missions and we have a lot of fun.

Feel free to pm me or mail me in game if you’d like to know more!

Thanks

Hi Rizami and Vasto,

I’d like to invite you guys to consider joining Nobleese Oblige [Nob] on Eredon Terrace. We are a casual crew that does not require rep and We love to help new players enjoy the game. We are one of the oldest guilds on ET and have a bunch of knowledgeable players that could probably answer all your questions.

We have historically been a PvE guild but have been getting a lot more into WvW so I suppose really we pretty much do it all .

So ya if you guys are interested in learning more about the guild or possibly joining feel free to pm me or mail me in game. Thanks!

Hi Raiyah,

What server ya on? If you are possibly on Eredon Terrace or would consider transferring, my guild, Nobleese Oblige [Nob] I think sounds like a good fit for ya.

We are a casual guild that has usually been more into PvE but has recently been getting more into WvW. We don’t have any rules really (besides be respectful and nice) and we consist of a good group of players that I really enjoy playing with.

If ya’d like to know more about [Nob] feel free to pm me or send me a mail in game.

Hope to hear back from ya!

Got 1st place last week!

It would make sense to me because one way to make players happy is to not make them mad/sad like a guild recruiting your server’s best players and then leaving.

I think it would be interesting as well to give the option of dedicating your guild to being a mercenary guild that can bounce to different servers weekly for the sake of more interesting match ups. that way u can try to make the people happy who see wvw as a community/team as well as those who want to just fight people. I think it would be kinda funny like per one week you get an awesome guild and the next week you are like ugh our mercs this week are weak! Variety right?

As for rewards I don’t care at all. Lol I just like my team and would like to see more team friendly people in the game which is unlikely for a video game. Something about mmo’s, people just aren’t interested in being challenged or enjoy this thing called parity. Instead the vast majority gang up and join servers that hurt the game as a whole. Gw2 WvW is totally fine. It’s the people who play it that slowly wreck it.

I love the idea.

Maybe its not grabbing everyone’s attention because its not massively earth shatteringly game changing but it seems cool to me for sure. I almost think what would make it a bit more intriguing is if this coupled with the increased sup hold trait thing. So like take your 150 points and scale it instead so that per a couple of those ticks you also get to hold +1 more supply.

Johje Holan.4607:

Dano.5298:

Johje Holan.4607:

Dano.5298:

I don’t see why that would be a great thing Johje.

Don’t we want less stale match ups as well? As far as I can tell, the max amount of servers you can have with decent sized populations the better WvW will be off.

Yes we do want less stale matchups. Six relatively even servers would give a good number of different matchup posibilities.

I don’t think there are enough people playing WvW for more than six servers. Maybe nine.

Even in T3 its fairly sparse except for reset night.

I’m thinking we might be playing a much different game given our server rank differences.

Fights are still to be found on T8 and I enjoy playing on ET. Really the only thing I dislike is there are just too many times that we are outclassed pop wise. I still kinda feel the opposite that you do. The problem isn’t that there aren’t enough players in silver/gold… It’s that there are too many players in silver/gold.

But thats just me.

From hearing some of the Bronze posters on here I’m thinking we’re playing a different game too. Either you all are talking about a small window of time period where everyone gets on and fights. Or you all have more people than Silver.

There are definitely not too many people in Silver. Its a ghost town much of the time. I’ll log on and see if anything’s happening. Its not, I log off.

On topic. I don’t think transfers are the solution at all. No matter the transfer pricing or incentives to transfer, transfers are NEVER going to balance out the populations.

It would have to be a miracle of divine proportions for so many random people transferring to create balanced servers. And if history tells us anything, it actually makes things worse.

There are much better solutions out there than transfers.

I apologize I didn’t mean to make it sound like we are playing a different game in a bad way. The tiers have different play styles is all.

Maybe ya really ought to check out bronze. I’m just guessing but perhaps in bronze you can make your own action and partake in smaller but meaningful battles. On ET for instance, a 10v10 can mean a keep cap! Siege is difficult to keep around (no pun intended) but maybe it provides for more fluid gameplay and more give and take. This gives the illusion of people always up and moving.

Idk! Perhaps someday I’ll need to try silver too… See which “game” is more fun!

Johje Holan.4607:

Dano.5298:

I don’t see why that would be a great thing Johje.

Don’t we want less stale match ups as well? As far as I can tell, the max amount of servers you can have with decent sized populations the better WvW will be off.

Yes we do want less stale matchups. Six relatively even servers would give a good number of different matchup posibilities.

I don’t think there are enough people playing WvW for more than six servers. Maybe nine.

Even in T3 its fairly sparse except for reset night.

I’m thinking we might be playing a much different game given our server rank differences.

Fights are still to be found on T8 and I enjoy playing on ET. Really the only thing I dislike is there are just too many times that we are outclassed pop wise. I still kinda feel the opposite that you do. The problem isn’t that there aren’t enough players in silver/gold… It’s that there are too many players in silver/gold.

But thats just me.

I don’t see why that would be a great thing Johje.

Don’t we want less stale match ups as well? As far as I can tell, the max amount of servers you can have with decent sized populations the better WvW will be off.

I see. That makes sense. I’m sorry to hear about HoD.

The problem is ET’s population is much much smaller than any other NA server. We just don’t have many players… at all. Frankly, and I’m not speaking for everyone on ET but I would like for us to have a chance to get “stacked on.” While it sounds messy and problematic in the future, ET’s population is very far from steady. ET will continue to shrink and unless ya’ll essentially want 1v1’s on t8, something ought to be done.

neonreaper.4805:

Dano.5298:

Forgive me if I am missing something but the moderator in one of the two links you replied with MisterBang just brings up “no match-up threads please”

I think Goonzu’s idea is a great one which deserves consideration and discussion.

Clicking a thread brings you to the last read/unread post in the topic.

Right so I do know that. I still don’t see any problems but I’m sure I’m wrong I don’t spend that much time on the forums.

Forgive me if I am missing something but the moderator in one of the two links you replied with MisterBang just brings up “no match-up threads please”

I think Goonzu’s idea is a great one which deserves consideration and discussion.

Why not just flip EoTM with eternal battlegrounds for a week?

Would that be that hard?

I play on ET and I think WvW is really fun. It’s just not optimally fun because we are stuck at the very bottom… This is bad for us because the fights (not just the match-ups) are super stale as there are really only a couple of WvW guilds amongst the lower servers. What this does as a result is make any guild thats relatively competitive want to leave ET because there are just no fights that they haven’t fought over and over.

What’s a bummer to me is the more I think about it, there are like 20+ things Anet could try that would really help. Some would be easy and some would not be as much but I would really appreciate something. Unfortunately its about to get a lot worse on ET but a lot of us are going to keep trying anyways.

Say what ya want but our numbers have been gaining a bit both with returning players and new players. Losing Svrn and MoD is going to hurt but we can step it up in their absence.

Heya,

I totally feel ya on those past guilds, I’ve been in those types as well.

My current guild though, Nobleese Oblige [Nob] on Eredon Terrace is a casual guild that does actually wanna help new players. Probably the most fun part of the game for me right now is trying help gear up guilders and play together in WvW mostly. So my part at least, WvW is my game mode. However, we do have lots more PvE players and they are great about teaching me and others about dungeons or guild missions.

We are a smaller guild, but we pack a punch and are looking for nice and respectful people to hang out with us in game.

If you’re interested in Joining us lemme know in game or I can check back here.

Thanks!

Another really fun reset!

Come to ET!