Guild Wars 2

Well to be fair thieves may require more than 2 buttons but still steal back stab and heartseeker spam isn’t real complicated oh also assassins signet before you steal.

JonathanSharp.7094:

Knote.2904:

That was all we needed Jon, just so you know.

Just something to show us we’re not invisible. Lol.

Na, it’s ok. From your point of view, it makes sense: you feel like no one is responding to threads, which must mean we’re not listening or that we do not care.

But as I’ve said before, we read the forums, takes, run to meetings, etc. We’re here, and we’re listening.

I understand your position and it makes sense. I just wanna let you know that we’re here and we are working hard. We just have our heads down as we fix bugs and put new things into the game.

Ok fair enough you busy but still why dont we get word of whats going on like other class forums?

Moderator.1462:

Hi everyone,

In the interest of having the Necromancer community that ANet does read and take feedback from the forums, we are going to let this thread alive. Please, refrain from any kind of flaming or unconstructive behaviour.

Thanks for your understanding

Oh cool they are showing mercy now and allowing threads to stay open =D

Well of course burst classes are well bursty but it should require more than just 2 button presses.

I play necromancer whyd you guess mesmer? Also whys it mater what class i play?

I by no means want to sound as though there aren’t skilled great sword warriors and guardians or skilled thieves im just say that way to many of them aren’t good and still do tons of damage and get kills without having to actually work for it.

I agree its got a bit ridiculous how something are just being ignored just because you ignore the problem doesn’t mean suddenly a certain class or whatever is magically going to not still be over powered.

So this is the only reply we can get from a dev not a yes we are looking at the necromancer and actually working on it. Just a general we look at every class reply I mean at least rangers got reassurance that stuff was being worked on for them. I swear its like the only thing we hear in the necro forums are attempts to keep people waiting while nothing ever happens.

I created this topic to talk about a few thing that have been bother me in in both Tpvp and Spvp. Whats been bother me are three classes/build thieves,great sword warriors and great sword guardians. Whats bothering me about it is how these class just get to run around pressing 2 maybe 3 buttons and doing great damage.

Thieves fine i get it they are supposed to be the sneaky class but really the damage combined with the mobility is just to much. At max initiative (which mean the trait to increase it by 3) they have to wait 15s between using their weapon skill while other classes have to wait sometimes up to 40s for a skill. The problem is that if they kitten up and dont instagib someone 15s they have all their skills ready to go and the other person has to wait on cool downs. Last thing about thieves the mobility is just to much they can screw up and just run away 90% of the time while other classes actually have to pay for their mistakes. What really bother me is how easy it is for thieves to get away and never have to pay for their kitten ups.

Great sword warrior pretty easy counter just dodge the bull rush and don’t stand in hundred blades proceed to kite. The problem is there are just so many of them everywhere and and if they get the jump on you your forced to stand their 4s while they just wail away at you if your stun break isnt up.

Great sword guardians their damage isn’t nearly as insane as the warrior but every kitten one of them has chains of light so you have to stand there once again and take the beating and they only have to wait for 20s for another immobilize.

Now sure i can beat all of these classes most of the time but i have to actually work for it not just press 2 maybe 3 buttons. It may just be me but i feel that they should also have to earn their kills and damage it just seems strange they can be so effective and not have to work nearly as hard as someone playing a necromancer or elementalist for example both have to use all their skills and cant just use 2 or 3 unless they want to get their kitten handed to them regularly.

For those of you who dint want to read the summary is i feel that people should have to earn their kills and damage not just bull rush and hundred blades.

I know you can observe them and ant trade them im asking if anyone knows what rank they come from or what mystic forge recipe.

Ok im looking for either the pvp bone staff or destroyer staff i made a thread earlier but it got locked because it appeared to have been answered and i dint get a chance to reply to it. Yes i am aware there is a guild wars wiki and i have already looked there and they don’t have these two staffs listed that’s why im asking on the forums.

I’m having trouble finding a staff i like for pvp my question is does anyone know were to get either the bone staff or the destroyer staff?

Im pretty sure the dota thing game is just a mini game not going to be actual pvp in the mist but i could be wrong.

Dont just think of my friend here he was just an example of what it like for new people. Also do we know for sure play ow trys to match you or just think it might?

You guys are misunderstanding no im not saying the game should be dumbed down no im not saying you start and be amazing at the game im saying it needs to be accessible to casuals so they can have fun even if they don’t do real well.

Your missing the point of course it takes more than half an hour to understand the game but for pvp to be popular people need to be able to jump in and not get completely destroyed sure they wont be real good but being able to at least play a bit and not get instagibed. You also missed another point it only took half an hour before he was fed up with it because it was just instantly thrown in with people of all skill levels.

Yeah he managed the test npc and im not saying he is amazing at games just an example of what a new player experiences. Basically yes more casual friendly im not saying dumb the game down but casual players need to be able to get started and have fun not just get destroyed and discouraged.

Mesmers portal gonna have its way with the flag.

Ok so the topic title seems fairly obvious of course pvp should be fun but hear me out.

Now everyone wants the whole esport thing to happen but its not going to if casuals players cant enjoy the pvp they join up hop in a hot join and instantly get bursted down by thieves or warrior or whatever and its no fun. I mean think about it about a half hour of getting your kitten absolutely handed to you and what are most people going to to do? They are going to say screw it this sucks im outa here.

You could of course say they are new l2p or other things like that but for the game to make it as an esport there has to be a huge casual community to support the few teams. casual players don’t want to spend an hour reading up on a build then another 5 or 6 hours of playing before they can start to defend themselves and have fun. There needs to be some system so that new players can play new players and actually get an idea wtf is going on be for being thrown to the sharks so to speak.

Now to back up what ive said before i have some evidence today i got one of my friends who plays computer games of various sorts casually to set down and play guild wars for a little while.

So he sets down makes his character decides he wants to play elementalist goes through the opening thing for his race then heads to the mist he looks around trys a few skill messes around with a couple different weapons and then jumps in a hot join… and just starts getting torn apart has no idea whats going on dies to everyone he sees half the time he has no time even wonder what is going before hes dead. I get him to stick with it for half an hour and then he says he has had enough and doesn’t want to play.

There needs to be a way for people to get an idea of whats going on and try pvp without getting stomped by people who have been playing for hundreds of hours or spending hours looking up stuff and reading about builds casual players don’t want to spend forever reading about how to play they want to jump in and just have some fun and get a few kills that’s why games like halo and CoD are so popular even if your just starting you can at least out put up a fight.

So i got a email about a login attempt with this information
Address: 222.67.30.84
City: Jiangchuanlu
Region: 23
Country: CN

Now this wasn’t me of course because if it was why would i be posting here but anyways does this mean they were just trying to login or actually had my password and just needed email to verify? I went ahead and changed my password but still im kinda suspicious cause to be plain my password is just stupid hard to hack 0% you could ever guess it and it consist of random numbers and letters so the time to brute force it would also be ridiculous. What im suspicious of is how they would have gotten the password if they actually had it and yes my computer is secure though once again to be sure i just ran scans of it with antivirus/antimalware programs.

Creaky.8596:

Maxxian.3980:

Are you trying to imply this game is in any way difficult?

Nope, I am simply implying that people are asking for everything to be handed to them like that ‘one other game that just recently came out from the competition’. WoW is So easy that people are quitting because the handouts have made the game no longer rewarding.

I prefer the current design of difficulty and rewards.

Thats just it though i dont think people mind paying for what they want(in a none lottery way) or earning it but there is no way to earn these skins other than dumping money on keys and hoping to get lucky or having lots of gold in game.

GreyFeathers.8175:

Honestly enough of the whinning already I’m really tired of the " gimmie " attitude and entitlement views of so many of these gamers. Can we get a moderator to bundle all of these into one thread so those who wish to complain can go to thread A and the rest of us can stop having to shift through all these whinning and worthless posts and actually discuss the game.

What’s funny is if you tag these posts where person " x " is complaining about not having the godly gear or items they’re also soon complaining about being bored because there is nothing to do either.

In all seriousness though I know I’m not the only one tired of the negative and whinning posts. Anyone else agree or do you all enjoy the drama here ? I’d rather have some good discussions or debates about things and get back to my gaming instead of shifting through what posts may or may not even be worthy of being here.

In what way did i ever say i just want the skins given away? Letting people purchase skins from cash shop is them earning their right to the skin by paying for it also not everyone has the gold to buy them that way.

kaffaljidhma i don’t understand you said if everything was available through cash shop then there wouldn’t be any reason to buy gems arent those two basically the same thing? Also how would having the skin available in cash shop be any different then the way it is now what person who dint buy keys from the cash shop is really going to have more than 2 or 3 keys to open chest anyways.

Now sure spending 20 dollars realizing the chest weren’t worth it and stopping is a good idea but why not just have the skin available to be bough and people can spend 20 or whatever bucks and get what they want then think that was a good deal ill buy skins next event too.

This chest thing was such a bad idea i would bet money that next event they will either drastically increases odds or finding things in chest, allow you to earn skins in game someway that doesn’t involve farming tons of gold or buy skins from cash shop because this chest thing is a great way to insure people dont buy gems.

Ive seen it said in lots of threads lots of time people would willing buy gems and then just buy whatever skins they wanted from BL. Now obviously the gem store is anets plan to make money on a game with no subscription fee so why this random crap with the boxes a few people are happy but as a whole its just pissing people off.

Basically people got tricked with this event expecting reasonable drop rates so they will make some money but how many people who got kittened on the boxes or just heard about how bad the drop rates are are going to buy gems again. If the skins had just been released on Bl people could have just got what they wanted and would still be willing to spend money on future events.

It just seems like such a completely counterproductive way to go about allowing people to get the skins that i honestly cannot think of a good reason it was handled in this fashion this gambling gimmick is just going to backfire when it could have simply been here are the skins here are what they cost simple as that.

Thanks for the answers.

So im getting close to the part in the person story when i choose an order for my character and im having trouble choosing so i thought id ask peoples thoughts.

My character is a necromancer so im trying to choose if i want him to be a priory scholar looking for tomes on how to be a more powerful necromancer/ eternal life through turning himself into a lich or possible a person with the order of whispers trying to do the same thing but using their shadow connections and such cause the order of whispers just seems so secretive and dark.

So ive done a Halloween door now that they are fixed and it appeares that they don’t count for Halloween events completed even though the doors are events so either its bugged or something else is the events.

MissKittin.1657:

Re the pumpkins in LA. They spawn in the same places (at least for me) and reset if you go to character select

Thank you kind sir for the information.

I second this or im just blind and cant see where they are.

So would my best bet just to run around LA tell i find them cause this seems like it could take a crazy amount of time.

Hi guy i also want to get the achievements/title for the event does anyone know
1. If the mad kings clock tower is in game yet and if so were it is?
2. says we need to complete halloween events i havent seen any any info on that?
3. carving pumpkins ive only seen a few of these is there a trick to finding more of them so i can actually get it done?

Yeah i was joking though a little necro attention would be nice.

Archmagel you might be on to something with the place the bugs there individually lol

So idk about everyone else opinion but to me the dev silence on the skin deal sends a pretty clear message.

Basically to me the silence says that they know they messed up and are trying to be very carefull about how they handle the huge PR issue this has become because this doesn’t only effect this event but you can bet future events people will remember what happened and how Anet responded so choosing the right course of action for something like this can significantly impact weather or not their game is a success.

Geekanerd I agree with you that expecting a huge patch soon that will just fix everything is unreasonable but still there are so many things and it had been 2 weeks since last patch and this was all the bug fixes that happened.

I agree there have been many good suggestions and I try to stay positive but it really is getting a bit ridiculous how we get no responses or anything.

Yes thanks for the photos though maybe its just me but looks a little cartoony and not real threatening perhaps ill change my mind if i see it in game.

Yeah atleast take the time to reassure us that someone is actually looking into all these bugs even if there is no eta of actual fixes would help alot to just to hear from a dev bothering to say yes we care and are working.

I think it sounds awesome also cause i play necro come on i need a scyth! If someone gets it please post a screen shot cause im curious what it looks like.

Well necros do have some problem right now but you for sure have to pay attention to what your doing but at the same time a really good necro can really change how a match goes.

Yeah i hate to say it but im kinda disappointed. I mean sure the haloween thing is great and all but the games been out long enough i think its time they sat down and got to work fixing stuff cause there’s certainly no shortage of things that need fixed and while i do enjoy new content i think making sure the game isn’t bethesda level full of glitches and bugs would probably be a good idea. Side not dont get me wrong i love bethesdas games but they are notorious for bugs and such for a reason.

Alex for sure ranking for organized 5 were the whole team has to be present or something but for just solo or pug tournaments i dont think its a good idea.

Dee Jay while i agree raging is more of a personal thing. What i was getting at is the elo system makes it hard for people not to rage cause weather they played bad or not having other peoples actions effect your ranking when its not a team of people you choose specifically to play with can make the person feel they are getting a lower ranking than they deserve.

Zaxares excellent suggestions especially the life regen one for all my pondering I cant see any of the minions being a big enough threat that they shoudnt regain health.

Also love the grandmaster death trait idea i miss my minion army!

True seeing as organized pvp is only 5 people 2 or 3 can make a huge difference but then we still have people blaming others for the loss and saying how they tried to carry the team but they were just to bad and this all come back to EVERYONE’S elo would be based on team performance not just how good you did.

PerfectSelf we are having a discussion about possible ranking ideas do you have anything to contribute or just typical internet troll say something pointless and move on?

Asmodean you makes good points and i guess what im really thinking is with all the condition removal and such that having some form of a little more burst on condition damage wouldn’t break the build so much as bring them up to par.

While i dont have a better solution i dont think elo is a good idea since it would have to change on how your team performed not just you then people would be mad at people for feeling they hurt their ranking. You coudnt do elo based on your performance alone because then people would just do actions that raised elo and not worry about winning or other things that might hurt it such as die defending a point.

Im not thinking of wow im just asking why conditions cant crit. For the most past fight are fairly quick so it seems like to me that conditions being able to crit would allow them to keep up with burst build which are the favored right now.

While i agree getting stomped isn’t fun and their needs to be some sort of ranking system i don’t think elo should be used. I say this because of games like league of legends which has probably the most toxic and just angry mad communities ive ever seen in a game.

What happened there and what would happen here is people would rage at each other and feel that if a person was having a bad game then that person is ruining their elo and dragging them down into elo hell were everyone is terrible according to to the person and they believe they should have a higher ranking.

Matches would become rage pits were they losing team all blamed each other or ganged up on one person and we would hear stuff like so many noobs just want a good team kinda post and such in forums.

I wasn’t meaning it was just necro was just my example.

It seems right now though burst damage is king so letting them crit would give them more damage but would still have to add up stacks.