Guild Wars 2

PvP is utter trash in it’s current state, yet I still log in every single day, looking for the enjoyment I once got out of this game….

Mogar.9216:

I was 10-1 entering emerald then went 3-15…

this

“We don’t give a kitten”

- Anet

We saw this coming miles away and they didn’t give a kitten….. Now that Leagues are here and no Solo Q was added, our fears have come true. Honestly I start feeling like Anet actually thinks this is all just fine. I mean they must have known this would happen and they always wanted to focus on the PvP teams anyway, which is the reason they removed Solo Q in the first place. They never talked about Solo players, only teams and this is exactly what we got. Wouldn’t be suprised if they just make a thread stating, that we can either team up with other players, or can go kitten ourselfs….

What bothers me the most is that we saw this coming miles away……

Texas.9547:

http://www.twitch.tv/thelordhelseth/v/28009936?t=4h56m50s

Working as intended.

Fortus.6175:

pretty much this:

http://imgur.com/cMWalaa

Meanwhile the devs

http://i.imgur.com/c4jt321.png

Leohart.4610:

Lmfao/10

Someone needs to compile all these pictures into one thread.

My games so far…..

http://imgur.com/a/nEqhh

Since my last post got deleted I thought I’d share…. will update the album

http://imgur.com/a/nEqhh

orfeoulis.4325:

Sharing some fun experience from today.

Solo + Solo + 3man vs 5 man. Intended I guess?

http://imgur.com/8ActYpP

You think this is bad?

http://imgur.com/a/nEqhh

SchmendrickTheMagician.8247:

This one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xg5D2gJAsU

Yep, it’s gone.

His reddit post got deleted and the video is no longer on youtube. Are they deleting posts? They also just deleted a thread of mine where I posted some pics of my matches so far, where you could clearly see that solo players got matched against full pre mades….

Skyline Crash.6254:

Shocking, I know, but there will ALWAYS be people in lower tiers. That’s the way the system works. So don’t go acting like you DESERVE to be in a higher tier when other people in higher tiers are better than you, have a better team comp, better communication, etc. If you want to be the best, you have to actually try.

…. Of course there are, but it isn’t fair when the only reason you’re stuck in a low tier is because you get unfair matches over and over. I’ll stop complaining if:

1.) They stop matching me against full pre made teams
2.) The matches are somewhat fair (500 – 400/300 and not 500 – 100)
3.) They rework their stupid 50/50 win loss ratio….

orfeoulis.4325:

Does this feel a bit unfair or it’s just me?

A bit? Understatement of the year….

foste.3098:

Could the mach making be forcing a 50% win rate any harder? There are about 3 more sets of games below that are also win win loose loose.

Also all of them are solo queue apart from 2 in which i wen in with a buddy (the 2 wins in the middle).

The 50/50 rate has always been a joke. Oh you just won 4 games in a row? Let’s put you in a group with 4 braindead PvE players, against a full premade PvP team so we can keep the balance. Fair games are rare. Usually it’s 500 – 200 or the otherway around. But hey, at least we got the win/ loss ratio right? eh? right? sigh…..

Kuya.6495:

This forum has too many angsty kids who seem to think yelling will get them what they, in their infinite wisdom, believe is right for the game.

But then again, when aren’t official game forums not full of cancer?

There are kittenton of good posts on this forum that just get ignored by Anet. Why even take the time to write constructive criticism when all the threads they answer to are only related to ESL or non urgent matters like this one right here?

Morwath.9817:

Espire.9723:

Evan Lesh.3295:

The details tab only shows up when there are details like roster sizes. If there is no details tab then everyone is solo. This tab will also show league badges in Ranked.

Ayy lmao, PvP is a huge disaster atm. Your patch didn’t bring any changes, your ESL Pro Leagues are a failure, and this is the one post you’re replying to? gg Anet

Why do you attack Programmer?

True. Wasn’t meant to attack him personally. Just thought it was funny given the circumstances, that this is the only thread an employee actually responded

Evan Lesh.3295:

The details tab only shows up when there are details like roster sizes. If there is no details tab then everyone is solo. This tab will also show league badges in Ranked.

Ayy lmao, PvP is a huge disaster atm. Your patch didn’t bring any changes, your ESL Pro Leagues are a failure, and this is the one post you’re replying to? gg Anet

After 3 years of terrible PvP support from Anet, I think this is exactly the way new players should read about it first. All the tournaments make the game look like there aren’t any problems and new players will fall for that.

saturn.4810:

Espire.9723:

saturn.4810:

How can you complain about Anet’s lack of PvP support if they just have organized a pro league with 200k cash reward?

Isn’t that the ultimate sign of how much Anet cares about PvP?

Sarcasm?

Just trying to understand Anet’s point of view.

I mean they support and care about PvP, just not the parts we would like to have supported.

The part where they care about PvP is the part that can be seen by the public. They are luring new players by advertising the game via the tournaments. Now you could either argue that this is a good thing because a lot of new players will bring Anet more money so they can increase the game support, or (which is more likely in my opinion) they will make a lot of money because of the player increase and the support will stay the exact same, because the money is used to create more money. I mean look at the amount of money/ new players HoT brought, and the actual state of PvP….

saturn.4810:

How can you complain about Anet’s lack of PvP support if they just have organized a pro league with 200k cash reward?

Isn’t that the ultimate sign of how much Anet cares about PvP?

Sarcasm?

Salamander.2504:

Espire.9723:

…There was a thread lately (pretty much daily at this point) where someone pointed out people are getting stomped by premade teams while playing solo and you finally answered. And your answer was?…

Just a heads up, in case this changes how you frame your argument: the dev quote you are citing is from 11 months ago. Also your English appears to be great.

I have to admit that I wasn’t aware of the time this was posted, but to be honest it only makes them look even worse. 11 months and the exact same problems still exist to this day, without ever giving a satisfying answer about the topic.

This will sound like a rant and it kinda is….. For more then 3 years I’ve been enduring Anets extreme lack of PvP support, but I think I’m finally done with PvP. I’m not even going to list all the problems that GW2 has atm, because there are good threads on a daily basis that just get completely ignored by the devs. Avoiding the hot topics won’t save your game. We care a lot for the state of this game and ignoring us just feels like one big “kitten you” to be honest, when you’re claiming how you’re always listening to your playerbase and I’m not talking about the rage threads. Every patch has it’s problems I am aware of that, and an addon even more, but the way you handle constructive criticism is just terrible. There was a thread lately (pretty much daily at this point) where someone pointed out people are getting stomped by premade teams while playing solo and you finally answered. And your answer was?

Justin ODell.9517:

I’m really curious as to how you guys are figuring out if the other team is a pre-made. We don’t tell you, and looking at the data there are very few party rosters compared to solo.

Is it just match quality being bad? Are you just recognizing player names?

Are you serious? All the talk about Solo PvP problems and this is your answer? It’s not that hard to realize, when you get stomped by a five man team with everybody having THE SAME GUILD TAG…… no SoloQ is a huge problem and you know it, and giving an answer like that makes you look really really bad.

Every single thread where they gave us an answer were either about technical issues, which I’m completely fine with, and the other half were ESL tournament related which probably brings Anet the most money PvP wise and at this point, it just makes you look greedy. You need to make money, I’m not that stupid, but for the love of god give us some feedback to the all the other problems! Don’t just ignore us. For years people have been writing topics about how unbalanced the matchmaking feels and the huge time it takes you to bring new patches, only to see that they created a ton of new ones. PvP feels unfinished since launch and considering your low support it probably always will.

So please Anet, at least give us some information. Hell at this point I would be satisfied if you’d just make a thread saying, that you guys are focusing on PvE and PvP Tournaments because of the money. But promising changes and advertising your great player support is just wrong.


PS: English isn’t my first language, so please bear that in mind

Yes or No? Please Anet….. this is getting ridiculous.

How? PvP had a lot of problems before HoT, now it’s just one giant mess. We paid a lot for this addon and what do we get? A “be patient they’ll fix it”. So yea… how do you enjoy the solo content? Cause I shure as hell can’t after getting rekt by pre mades over and over and over….

PvE will always bring them more money then PvP, so don’t be to angry over broken game mechanics…. You either learn to accept the poor PvP support from Anet or you have to move on. After 3 years of ignored ideas/ wishes from the playerbase, I just don’t care anymore tbh.

Nope. Main problem being the PvP playerbase is way to small for the MMR to work properly. And how could Anet change that? By actually supporting PvP besides advertising it via their big tournament streams. But PvE is where they can get the most money, so don’t expect anything before HoT. Hell even after HoT PvP population will probably decrease rapidly cause of the lacking support. I will quit GW2 PvP for good if they don’t bring back Solo Q……

I get that they are preparing for the HoT launch, but this has been a problem since this game got released 3 years!! back, so pls don’t use that as an arguement. How in gods name can you release a patch, that completely shifts the entire meta into using burning as one of their main dmg sources and then just completely ignore the dozens of threads in your own forum stating that it is way to strong and completely ruining the PvP experience for everyone not using it. This time we have DD cele eles and burn guard being op, last it was shoutbow warriors, before that turret engis and so on. Messed up the patch? No problemo, balancing is hard, but forkitten*s sake don’t just ignore it for literally months!!! What will be next….. looking at the beta probably indestructible revenants…..

Not shure if there has been an other thread about this already, but we just managed to fully stealth our entire team with 2 Nikas stealthing each other. Intended?

Dramen Maidria.1034:

Riranor.6315:

lol i only lost one game out of 5 going as chrono, my friends as revenant and reaper. in fact we’re typically carrying. so either your beta testers need more basic game understanding, or anyone who has a hard time with beta testers needs to get better. i do believe it’s the former, but I’m sure some people are just using “beta testers lost me the game” to deny their own failure

The point is to keep the currently unbalanced new builds to a different area of pvp for the people who would like to just have this weekend be business as usual. Part of this weekend is to help balance these new traits and skills, and not everyone feels like participating in that, which is fine.

Exactly.

PlatinumMember.5274:

Sagat.3285:

Please limit them to unranked.

Why should people who paid 50 bucks be subjected to skyhammer and spirit watch, when rank is currently meaningless.

It’s not about rank (leaderboards)….. Losing every game because your team is full of beta testers is the main problem.

PlatinumMember.5274:

The only difference between rank and unranked is skyhammer.

I just want a playlist where I don’t have to bother about getting matched with people who just want to try out their new build….. I don’t really care about map rotation that much. Or Leaderboards….

Nope…. Rank is carried over from your original account. But I’d be totally ok with that if they actually had to play their beta chars until they reach rank 20.

Let them play unranked so they can test their new builds and don’t bother those who like to play ranked.

Well nothing more to say really….. Ranked is pretty much unplayable

Mia Crazymike.1780:

I thought it was confirmed that league queues will have both options, solo and group. But regardless of which you queue into, your position/rank will be calculated on your own performance aka solo.

You have a source for that? And didn’t they say “wins” are used to get to the higher ranks of the leaderboard?

With PvP leaderboards getting released this year, pre made teams will rule the entire game if solos won’t be able to queue separately. Matchmaking has been a mess since forever, but by adding leaderboards and PvP only items bound to them, you are actively punishing solo players. There aren’t many PvP players left in GW2 and it will probably get even worse if you don’t do something about this….

Posted originally on Reddit, thought I’d share this here. I really don’t know what to think of Anet anymore… Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely love this game and the gameplay is fantastic, but there are soooo many posts about the completely broken state of PvP and the devs are acting like there aren’t any problems everytime someone brings up the topic. I get that they can make much more money from PvE, but advertising for the PvP content in this game the way they do via the tournaments atm, is just wrong….

It’s beyond me how anyone can defend this….

1. Broken Matchmaking (solos matched with pre mades)

2. Unbalanced Teams (rabbits vs dragons, and yes I know rank=/= skill but dont tell me someone who played a 1000 games is worse then somebody who played less then 100….)

3. OP builds that havent been looked at for literally MONTHS!

4. Hotjoin is just…. well I don’t really consider it as something people actually like playing besides getting dailies, or crushing “noobs” with their skilled team for fast rank up games. Imagine what a new player will think that joins pvp for the first time….

5. Quitters…. they exist in every game I know, but the lack of punishment is really frustrating in GW2.

6. Win/Loss ratio… looks fantastic on paper, but is laughable when you look closely. The ratio doesn’t consider how the match played out. You can get a 500-0 win in your first match and a 0-500 loss in your second match. Voila, there’s your 50/50 ratio, but I garantee you one of the teams was kittened because the match was unbalanced in some way.