this traits pretty interesting. against most classes it gives you a huge advantage early on in the fights, even in team fights i feel like its pretty nice, honestly its hilarious fighting condi classes with it. rock solid is also an incredible trait. the only thing is, you actually have to play good against some power classes now. ive been running 0-0-30-10-30 and if you take vital striking and stone splinters ( and earth 25 ) you do enormous damage at the start of a fight… killing glassier classes in one burning speed fire grab combo if you get the jump on them
i use ER a ton and almost always when im roaming… still dont like it though… you have to set it up and take 3 seconds to go on the defensive and allow them to pretty much do anything they want … not saying its not good. those are just the reasons im not a fan of it. unfortunatley, i feel obligated to take it in so many situations now
If I am correct looking at the video he has around 410 healing power which is plenty for SOR. As a comparison I have 518 healing power and it heals for 254 in the video he is healing for 243. Ether renewal takes the enemies heal skills, cooldowns, and basically reduces their recharge rate by 3.5 seconds. To each his own but personally I feel that if you are D/D SOR is the better heal there isn’t anything wrong with popping SOR in a pinch and using the active a ele can stall and heal back up for it to come off cooldown and it takes 50% of your healing power so it isn’t terrible. Most of the time when you are running around using ether you are taking damage anyway and not getting the full heal or you are blowing important cooldowns just to get it off.
SOR is better you just have to be careful and dodge important attacks. If he would have fought that guardian with ether renewal he would have lost or it would have been a tie because he couldn’t engage with good pressure and if he did engage he would have to back off and heal every 15 secs.
The guardian was dps but was also healing the entire fight passively, the guardian also had retal and SOR helps deal with retal look at his health every time he started to lightning whip the guardian. He just needed to abuse the lightning whip range better and not stay in the Symbol of Wrath which was when he started taking the most damage. I honestly just think he isn’t really familiar with guardians or dps type guardians like that one. They are starting to become more popular and I was surprised the first time I fought one but SOR is definitely the better heal against dps guards.
Anyone decent would have interrupted ether and if you notice that guardian was running Bane Signet! and would have easily interrupted his ether.
totally agree, signet is way better for fighting power classes and it lets you stay way more aggresive. Ether renewal is good for some things but i find really annoying to have to cover your heal everytime you want to use it
[Yarr] learned that the flying-V Fiery Greatsword Formation is a little underpowered in a GvG, but the “SPREAD OUT THEY VIELED” Formation works great! Obsidian Sanctum is now called Fort Yarr.
it looks like you played pretty well the few things i would comment on are your burning speed + LF combos, you always seem to do it when you have a nice angle already for burning speed to hit, i usually save it for when ur farther away or they are right on top of you so they dont dodge because they dont think it will hit. also i almost never use chearning earth in duels unless im going against some1 super tanky to stack might. and signet heal is amazing with omnomberry pie and almost always use it against power classes, then switch to -% condi food and ether renewal against condi classes. n dat guard had a kitten load of immobalize wtf. good fights though
you have a ton of tools to deal with theifs as d/d ele. shocking aura, frost aura, water 3, earth 2, and dodgeing in earth all of these will slow them down and make it difficult for them to get there burst off. arcane shield is also very strong against them. when they go stealth and are getting ready for a backstab get protection up. all of your skills are aoe and require no target so you can spam alot of these where you think they will be. d/p theives will be a long and annoying fight with all the blinds and there ability to stealth anytime. you probably wont be able to actually down a good one by yourself if he is cheesing it out but he shouldnt be able to kill you either. it just takes abit of practice. i suggest finding a good theif and asking him for duels so you can learn to fight against them. the trick is to just try to keep them slowed and kind of kite them around.
if you want to run d/d in a zerg 0-0-10-30-30 with aura sharing and the earth trait that auras give protection is really good you should really focus on giving boons, auras, and heals to the people that need it most. getting behind the enemy zerg and just being really annoying is also a good strategy, i also do this with staff just trying to break there zerg apart and cause havoc …its usualy not a good idea to run into a zerg that is facing you try to get around them. that being said i play in bronze league and the zergs are much less organized. I also spend most of my time roaming in small groups and havent ran with large zergs lately, but i used to be in a pretty large organized wvw guild so i have some experience
sorry but deth doesnt GvG….. or come to fight club
PS dear sweet scout, i hate to be the bearer of bad news…. but…. there is no such thing as a cheese ele build.
I didnt say cheese build lol I said his build is really good and I am trying to find out its weakness, and sorry Deez if I handed it to you in those first fights, you got me good . after I dc’d in 2 of those, you only beat me fair in 1 fight.
lies and slander!!!! erry time i win you were “lagging” or the “warthogs” got you… but thats ok because we both know #exposed #justforphun #blackwater
i have a full celestial armor set with divinity and boon duration runes that i usually run 0-10-10-20-30 and i really think its a strong setup with a nice mix of offense and defense, its amazing for duels. but when running solo trying to fight outnumbered it really doesnt matchup to soldiers with traveler runes and running 0-0-10-30-30, the damage loss is really not that huge and the extra survivability from toughness and vitality is enormous.
everything is situational
So….you’re annoyed that if an opponent negates your attack, you don’t get rewarded for it?
I…uh, k.
Since appear to play a warrior (and other classes), then I ask what penalty do you suffer when you miss your burst attacks? you don’t lose adrenaline, it goes onto a 3 second cooldown not 10 second. So where is your penalty for missing?
Just so you know, when a warrior misses a burst skill, the burst skill goes on full cooldown. If I am using a mace and miss my skull crack my cooldown is effectively doubled.
My mistake I just tested this with my warrior, it did indeed go on a 7.5 second cooldown.
Why are you saying the cooldown is effectively doubled though?
Late response, haven’t been posting much lately, but the reason I said that it is effectively doubled is because you now have 15 seconds between skull cracks instead of 7.5.
yea thats not the same… and can be said for anyskill in the game.. its like saying if we miss its going on a 60 second CD instead of a 40 second CD …. are warriors really upset by RTL?
The problem with RTL before was the range… it would take you out of combat immediatley after using it regenerating all your hp back to full…they nerfed the range and the cooldown at the same time and it was way to much…. i really think this would not be a problem if they left the range how it is now and just put it on a 20 second CD, i rarely use this skill to engage anymore and instead save it almost exclusively as an escape. ANET if you change this back i will send a delicious ice cream cake to your offices!
i just use the basic 0-30-0-10-30 with soldier armor and cavalier/zerker trinkets and you can still stomp people quickly especially if you take scholar runes and vital striking in water
and another thing!!!! whats up with our arcane utilities??? arcane wave is trash now…. 30 second CD and it hits for less than lightning whip … so what its a blast finisher? there is a reason cantrips are so popular….. they are just all around fantastic compared to our other options… i used to use arcane wave but now its damage is a joke for a utility slot skill on a 30 second CD
go to fightnight!! and just fight every1 you can and each time you lose.. just think ok what could i have done there to turn things around … and here is a strong warrior build for you! also you just run into a zerg and try to make it out the other side just keep doing that until you dont die anymore!
I personally don’t like to lose. I prefer to win. I guess you don’t much care about that.
What are you talking about? I’ve won pretty much this entire week, wiping zergs with a 5 man, kiting a whole bunch of FC/AR into Ogrewatch just now before the reset in EB and wiping all of them, and before that me and a guardian kept wiping FC between the Hylek village and your supply camp. Kept my 25 stacks the whole playtime… not even one death.
Mesmer from Oz.
Ps: Oh you talking about having coverage win? Well, that’s boring, unskilled and non-challenging my friend.
Ps2: To the warrior from AR around Ogrewatch fighting against us and some FC, good times!
I have an apothecary set with perplexity (shield conjure and tornado are good fun with perplex! ) and it is very strong in duels with near perma burning and confusion and does quite well against other condi classes … necros on the other hand kitten every condi class so i dont think you can compare the 2, if your beating necros as a condi class that necro is probably awful…. and there are still strong wvw builds out there for the ele
Whats with all the hate in this thread? This week has been nothing short of a Joy with so many fun roamers to play with! I hope we get more matchups like this, no more stinky SF and HoD zergs to dodge!
while i do enjoy the salty taste of necromancer tears i dont think this trait will be very strong, 10% of ele health is only about 1.5k once you burn through this in a couple auto attacks then get your OP condi’s on they will melt and never be above 90% again
the scepter burst is instant and very hard to dodge…. i suggest you wait until he dodges then burst him after. If you do get hit by a earthshaker use the instant blind on air 3 to mess up his combo
i have lots of experience fighting mesmers on my ele and i dont think identifying the real mesmer is my problem… the condi mesmers im fighting are using sceptor/torch and sword/pistol (so yes they have lots of stealth)…also if my build is terrible please let me know! ive been doing pretty well although necros and condi mesmers destroy me.
Hi! im new to engi and have been having trouble with condi mesmers in particular and was just wondering how those of you with more experience do against those pesky condi mesmers
