You can use fast casting and semi fast casting for ground targeted skills anyway. Somehow I also find it hard to believe that the majority of ele players hate this update.
what he said! use fast ground targeting… pretty much what you are asking for
i dont think so, i was only using d/f in OS for a couple duels. was roaming with guard, mes, and theif with d/d for most of the night in EB, and JQ bl. just look for the [yarr] tag!
we will be stuck on SoR until at least sunday night, we had lots of fun last night though!
me and four buddies transfered to SoR for a holiday vacation! if anyone wants to do some small GvG’s or duels lets me know.
nice! keep representin!
any duel where both players are glass is fun
sounds like fun! ill add you
you’re doing it wrong and ele is basically one of the best professions
I am pathetic. Human trash.
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like i said… these where the only people in OS, i just made the video to show off the build. I most likely wont be making anymore. If your ever facing FC send me a whisper though and we can have some fun!
you should check out CMC’s twitch channel…. ive been using his build in team que and its been working out quite well
Very nice gameplay from your part.Gonna try this.Do you think it would work better with Celestial armor?
i have a set of celestial and it works fine with it. you have more survival but dont do as much damage
Condition necros will dominate you easily with this build. Which i am using exact build with different gear but stuff is the same.
condi necros are a joke with diamond skin…. honestly that trait is ridiculous against condi classes, im more worried about power builds than condi with it
@ Fishbones: I appreciate the build & video posting. These things always intrigue me.
A few questions, however. Would you mind terribly to try to update or repost the build? I find some inconsistencies to your video and the build posted.
Like, in your videos I see you having about 16,2k HP when the post shows the HP pool at 15,3k. Also you seem to run the signet of restoration instead of ether renewal.
Now the general gist is made. 0/0/30/20/20 D/F with the runes. and lighningflash & arcane wave. So far so good, point made.
But since this build in particular spiked my interest due to my, similar, gameplay preferences, I would want to ask if you could refine the information :]
there it is …. that site was changing stuff around for some reason but seems to be working now. I think that extra health is from WvW buffs or that site is wrong. ive also been using SoR (along with life steal food) now because it keeps you topped off against condi classes.
D/F is nice and all, but its very kite-able. D/D already has some issues being kited if your opponent is smart, but d/f can’t do anything but slow down the ranged dps if its projectiles.
You might be experiencing “extra power” from the fact that you are playing a mythical unicorn that your enemies have no idea what to do against.
have no problems being kited with this… and yes alot of ppl dont even know ele has a focus thats one of the bonuses!!! no1 knows what to do! but still if they are kiting you succesully it does not matter yo have reflect and swirling winds and invuln …. and tons of condi clear with d/f ….
Thought i would share the DS build I’ve been using its purty strong and I am still undefeated with it in duels, I honestly think its one of the strongest dueling builds in the game atm.
I do not like liars. I transfered to HoD for a week and whipped this ele! If you go back to his video he only fights the same 3 people cause he knows he can beat them! There were like 20 people there! Liars will lie. Scrub ele.
worst theif NA
well considering that we perform pretty well in WvW i think if they just turned back all the spvp nerfs they gave us, Ele would be in a good place….. also i mean cmon… RTL change it back to 20 seconds… do it… this would go a long way putting ele on par with other classes in pvp
here is a video of duels in OS from tonight. i wish more people would have been there but this was all of them
I’ve had good success with d/f condition build in the past, but I just hate the mobility too much, and it’s worse for soloing camps. For strict dueling though I think it is superior to d/d. I always took 20% off earth cooldown instead of rock solid since earth focus skills are by far the most important focus skills.
I don’t fear any class but thief in duels. But oh man do thieves scare me. I suppose I have been running D/D instead of D/F lately, but I’m finding good thieves are getting harder and harder to beat in any build. I’m interested how you fare against d/p or s/d thieves in WvW.
Against condition based thieves, focus skills is a major counter to them from my experience with s/f (plus the range burst from scepter helps a lot too). Now against a good power/bunker based thief running s/d you won’t be able to defeat him because s/f or d/f doesn’t provide the enough burst to down him before he can stealth and recover again. For those type of thieves you need bursty d/d or s/d playstyle.
cant say ive ever fought a power / bunker theif, but i have yet to have any REALLY long drawn out fights using d/f, the damage can be huge… 10% more damage when endurance if full and 10% more damage when ur close and sigil of force all add up nice. the only extra damage off hand dagger provides during duels is firegrab (which can be quite alot) and fire 4, unless your using churning earth and its actually hitting ppl. but like i said, dont see many bunker theives… cant imagine they hurt very much though
I´d hardly suggest you this build : http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEAQJAoYhMmgbzxzgjEAEFuYyogIiCPUekzM2A-jEEBYgAYjgkIAUBgJfCiZPKrlhht6KalXBRVDQbDT5KpqYR2gLQWcp2aOZSBYiyI-w
It´s hard to master, but its worth it.
It´s based on permanent Protection, Fury, Vigor and ~20 Might.
Might: You need to blast all your Fire-Fields with dodge in Earth-Attunement
Fury/Protection: Use your Auras (well timed ofc!) and always use your Earth 3 Skill (Leap Finisher).
Vigor: comes automatically due the Arcane “II” Perk.You may practise a lot, because it don´t excuse a lot mistakes to work well.
gl hf
i played a similiar build pre patch, i think its still a pretty good build
I’ve already seen Winter running the “Vitamin” build. GG bro.
o.O i thought school was over but since none of this is original ill cite sources for you
traits by out of attunement
focus skrills by winters
wall of text by deez
gotta say, fc has some of the worst roamers i’ve ever fought. zerg on.
That sounds like a challenge. Sadly I have not found any IoJ roamers worth a kitten either(except those buns jerks). Those zergs seem to be getting in the way.
Well a 5 man party did this to your EB ontop of getting the gates reinforced at brav and duri and only dying twice to the 15+ man FC zerg.
(our zerg was in DH area all night)
I don’t usually do this……… but ………….. your ugly
hmm around 2500 armor is pretty standard for me, but feel free to tweak things around to your liking!
yea, i am not a fan of s/f the damage doesn’t seem to be there (because of awful autoattacks), but with d/f your autoattacks put out nice damage so you can keep up constant pressure. when all else fails – lightning whip!
oh kittenttt, luckily you are trapped on FC!
also dont worry, no1 listens to me
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o.0 nope thats weird. should be 2 traveler, 2 divinity, 2 water
Another day, bored at work, doing the usual forum warrior buissness. Thought i would share the DS build I’ve been using its purty strong and I am still undefeated with it in duels, I honestly think its one of the strongest dueling builds in the game atm.
(well that site is acting weird. it should be 2 divinity, 2 traveler, 2 water – sigil of battle, sigil of force)
d/f is already super strong in duels and I used it to great success beating those pesky condi classes pre patch. It still remains our best weapon set for dueling imo, add in Diamond Skin and never worry about blackwater-perplex-dhumfire-shenanigans again!
you could take vital striking over cantrip mastery but the best burst u can get with d/f involves burning speed > lightning flash > arcane wave (this can easily hit for over 10k) the more often you can do it the better!
you have a block, invuln, reflect, projectile invuln, lots of slows, a daze, and a knockdown with complete condi immunity above 90% …. by the time they get through all this they are usually dead.
short vid of duels from tonight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kauuTPx2TfM
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lol omg this would be amazing, please let me use 2 weapon sets! we could put some ridiculous combos together if we had this. pheonix into burning speed please
well seems every1 is celest fan! fine, i give up! celest is best
power gear does more damage… celestial allows for more mistakes. dunno how you could say power is bad though…. glass is class
celestial is bestial … i just dont get how valks knights has low stat returns
The BEST d/d build ever made, period.
This build offers massive survivability and damage all in one package, which is perfect for small group play and to an extent zergs. By constantly blasting off ring of fire with earth dodge, 4, and 5, you can stack ludicrous amounts of might. By playing intelligently, you would be an ele with permanent uptime on all boons except protection (this still has pretty long uptime) and stability, giving you 4k power and 1.2k condition damage to go with your survivability.
This build is when you want to simply not die and nothing else. Guaranteed to make you immortal, especially in small group fights where your high survivability, resistance to conditions, and extreme healing makes you a tank to make guardians look bad. Only one issue is lack of damage but, hey, the trade off for immortality is still nice.
you need moar zerker!!!!
and lol zerker / knights / valks does way more dmg than your celestial setup
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y no dodge backstab…. y no cripple … y no chill… a theif catching a staff ele?? i dont think so
theifs suck, you cant kill no staff ele
deth lost their commander and many members of their core GvG team. At least they showed up to fight, now if they lose their ego and keep GvGs going maybe they can get back to their former glory! I wish them the best of luck!
dont listen to all these baddies… ele takes a bit more work to get good at but is very rewarding, very team oriented, and very fun! also one of the best dueling classes in the game
also i have made many build that can easily one shot people, s/d, d/f, and d/d are all capable of this …..probably s/f also, but it is a pretty awful combo in my opinion
0-10-0-30-30 with aura share is still good for zerg fights
toughness is overrated
i think im done with tpvp. literally every time my team loses i’m getting blamed for it lol.
your not running condi ele in spvp are you?
I was messing with something kind of similiar but with the new tempest defense stuff… you can get insane dmg with gale > burning speed > lightning flash > arcane wave … and if you have a hammer warrior with you stunning people your putting out huge deeps constantly, its lot of fun!
i would also recomend keeping lightning flash on your bar as your main burst with d/f comes from burning speed > lightning flash
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rock solid is amazing so is elemental shielding and stone splinters… earth line has good traits
20 seconds fire grab please
because with a little extra button mashing ele beats every other class in the game!
would very much like to see this skill with a 20 seconds cooldown again…. none of that 40 second CD if you miss nonsense.
poor Deth …. i still love most of you
yes! its hilarious!
I don’t know about you guys but… I have been dominating with this new buff (not being sarcastic) I have never felt so OP with the new D/D ele. This includes 1v1 with any builds out there and wvw zerg trains. Casuals… I carry.
this guy knows whats up
i dont know no math and no idea what that has to do with anything… what im saying is with diamond skin builds you can win all 1v1 vs condi and power classes… the power classes were always easy on ele… now you can crush condi classes with ease too!!! GG
why is ele underpowered? with diamond skin ele could beat every class in 1v1’s now
fgs buff is amazing!