Guild Wars 2

Mindtrick.5190:

Desperate? It’s comedy in TS people kept saying “are they trying to climb?” If siege was going down I missed seeing it as I afk and ate sammmmich watching.

Im willing to bet someone got lost on youtube and found themselves watching human stacking videos and thought it would be a great strategy.

Evo Nightcrawler.1902:

Amazing night in SoR bl with TW/TWL/EMP/ACO! Looking forward to more evenings like this.

Yall crashing as much as us? Pretty sure we had mass crashes every 20 minutes. Was making fights interesting when right as we push in half our melee would crash out.

Look, Ma! I’m on TV! I is famous now! You caught my near death experience. I saw the light and was like ahhh hell no.

Vodka.3958:

Fixeon.5076:

BG will be out of our tier before we beat them that many times I am sure. Unless we want to count all of the times that we are in T1 and they are not as a victory.

Hate to break it to you, but BG won’t be out of this tier any time soon. Especially with how even T2 has become.

Well we need 11 more wins to be 14-13 over you. That means… That is 11 weeks. BG lost 15 points this week TC gain 14. After this week the difference between TC and BG should be about 134.226 That means it is possible for TC to overtake BG in 5 weeks. That is, if nothing changes and current trends remain.

Anything can happen though. A server might die. Someone might get a massive influx of people. A rogue communist government might start a global-thermo-nuclear war. WE JUST DON’T KNOW! But in all likely hood BG will be out of t1 before SoR catches up in W/L.

BG will be out of our tier before we beat them that many times I am sure. Unless we want to count all of the times that we are in T1 and they are not as a victory.

@jebacca Well, that is why I said pugs respond better to names. It is much more difficult to teach them all basic map skills and make sure they understand it. Although sometimes I wish I could.

@Rawnoodles You do know you are bragging about full capping maps after both of the servers you are fighting have pretty much packed it in for the week right? That is like saying, “Yeah well after you guys all went home from the Superbowl I scored 47 touchdowns all on my own! OHH YEAH!!” Now, if you were to do this during NA prime time I would be impressed.

EDIT:
@wish I don’t know wish, we got your whole BL to respond to a few open field trebs. I would say we poked hard enough I don’t really know what happened after all of that most of us went off for a lunch break I think.

Wotah.2975:

Fixeon.5076:

I find that the pugs respond better to names where guilds respond better to directions. So its helpful to also know names.

But it’s cardinal direction, things we’ve learned since school (and perhaps some are still trying to learn in school -don’t know).

You would be surprised how many people get east and west confused in any game you play. And there is nothing more annoying when someone calls out inc west camp. And you get there and they are like… I mean east camp.

We had like 6 or 7 people in EB screwing around yesterday hoots. We were going to form up and storm in and try and take JQ’s keep but we saw BG was trying to do the same. And none of us really wanted to deal with a 3 way stand off with nothing but skill lag to keep us company so we just kinda poked JQ with a stick to keep them angry at us lol. It was way early in the day maybe around noon to 1pm ish my time I think.

I find that the pugs respond better to names where guilds respond better to directions. So its helpful to also know names.

Tyaen.5148:

Fixeon.5076:

Lance.5892:

Going to be an interesting new week as BG is Red and SoR turns blue! I’m pretty sure I’m going to run into alot of blue portals by accident… =(

I know right? And I was just starting to call everything in our BL by the correct names too….

I forgot about that. What’s Gods called now?

Dangit no one said there would be a quiz!

Lance.5892:

Going to be an interesting new week as BG is Red and SoR turns blue! I’m pretty sure I’m going to run into alot of blue portals by accident… =(

I know right? And I was just starting to call everything in our BL by the correct names too….

OK, I have an idea for you all. Instead of the way the current PPT system works try this.

Right now everything has a fixed value (other than killing yaks). What if they were not. What if they ramped up over time. But also, you add in a bonus for capturing something which also ramps up over time.

So what this would mean is lets just say that Green just took their garrison. Well that garrison is now only worth +2ppt, and after the next tick it will be worth +4ppt. And then after a bunch of ticks it caps out at its current +25PPT. But what is also happening is there is a second mechanic ticking. This would be the value that this keep would be worth if another team was to take it from green. So lets just say that its worth +10 if you take it before the next tick. And then maybe +15 after that. Finally capping out at like +200 or +300 something like that.

So what would happen is that the longer an enemy would have a tower the more rewarding it would be for them to hold it and for someone else to try and take it from them. I think this would encourage people to go after high value targets while trying to hold onto their own. As a +2 tick and +10 for taking a keep would not be worth the time or effort that would go into trying to siege something.

Well you have to admit that it helps having double the force of either of the servers you are facing.

People claiming that SoR NA is stacked are forgetting that they are fighting two servers that are more than able to have full queues on all 4 maps at the same time.

I am not going to try and call out exact numbers but it seems to me early in the morning JQ has the numbers to queue up 3 BLS, Thiers, EB, and then 1 other. BG and SoR have to Keep a decent force in EB most of the time, and then the rest of their numbers are jumping between their home BL and where ever the easy points are to be found. All while trying to hold JQ’s massive zergs at bay the best they can.

What this means is that it is not uncommon for JQ to pretty much hold their home BL, their corner of EB and still be able to have a server size zerg running around in either SoR or BG BL. The result is their structures have infinite time to upgrade. Which leaves JQ with fully upgraded structures most of the time until NA prime time. That in turn slows down BG and SoR as it is much harder to siege T3 siege capped towers/keeps with 40-50 people running around inside.

That being said, it is what it is. JQ has the population and coverage thus they are the winners. Nothing can be done about it unless like someone said before we lul JQ into a soft sleep and then pounce on them in the night with croquet mallets.

Ok, I have to ask. Where are all the ranked people on JQ and BG? I have noticed the past few nights that almost everyone we run into are Invaders and Assaulters. Maybe a few raiders. But honestly that is it. I mean I am a footman which is about average I think, I know there are people Colonel and General maybe even a Veteran or two on SoR, I assume there has to be some on JQ and BG… So where are you?

I don’t want this to turn into a kitten contest of who is highest or anything I just honestly want to know why everyone around here seem to be so low. Do you guys change characters every day or something?

The FEAR one is pretty funny I would have like to have seen that.

Really though I don’t blame TSym for having 40 people guarding a yak. You pretty much need that many these days. When I use to play on my thief I could solo a yak with 10 people guarding it. I can only imagine what a group of 3-5 thieves would be able to do.

Well I am on SoR, so I might be a bit bias but my favorite I have seen is:

Extremely Massive loot Pinata [EMP].

Sadly though the loot doesn’t fit in right but it still made me laugh a little.

VOLKON.1290:

He’s right. SOR only runs in 9’s or 11’s. They’re odd like that.

That’s right… SoR goes to ELEVEN!

…. yeah i probably just aged myself with that comment

There isn’t much he could do even if you had a screen of the guild name/tag anyway. He could yell at all of his guild and tell them that is not cool. But honestly there is no way of telling who that person is anyway. Just keep an eye out and report them when you can.

Jedbacca it was indeed a joke post making fun of all of the zergball talk. I just couln’t keep a strait face any longer. I do have to say though I am a bit surprised by all of the people complaining about being run over by a 50man SoR zerg while on the SoR BL.. I mean do people really expect to show up with 10 people and be effective? We are not going to simply say ok guys they only have 10 people lets only send 10 after them. Nope, its more like hey guys look free loot; lets hope they are also worth more than 2xp.

I love how SoR has huge zerg balls yet everyone else runs around with 10 mans. I think giant zergballs are a sign of potency wouldn’t you all say so? Yep, giant red zergballs. Although it looks like next week we are going to have giant blue zergballs. Man… we should probably have some professionals look at that.

Edit: Just one more zergball pun…..

I guess we most of played with our zergballs too much which is why they are turning blue.

Or maybe it is just easier to take and hold a non upgraded keep? Taking upgraded and sieged keeps takes time and manpower. Both are in short supply this time of day.

@Mike.3742 You man bro? It was a joke post learn to laugh a little.

@Transfers talk

I think if WM was to transfer to any T1 server it would throw the whole system out of whack again. They would give FoO competition but that would leave the 3rd server pretty much crushed under the weight of 2 super zerg servers running around trying to cap everything. We think its bad when FoO brings 60-80 and pounds down our gate now. One can only think of what it would be like with another 60-80 man knocking on your other door. There would be no fighting it you would get trampled.

SoR does feel the pressure from FoO. And we deal with that pressure. Sometimes we are able to beat them off, sometimes we cant.

I know there was a lot of work put into this system but wow…. All I have to say is this feels like a huge letdown. I was expecting something so much better. I mean for WvW players this tells us nothing we couldn’t have already found out via http://mos.millenium.org/matchups and while that might not be 100% accurate at least it shows a score update and predicted server movements.

I think a lot of us were at least expecting this whole WvW ranking system to be a viewable system. I know I was looking forward to comparing myself to others on my server and beyond.

Ok, who spilled water on JQ’s overnight/morning crew and then fed them? I swear their numbers have doubled since last week this time of day.

Liquid.9672:

You have to understand Boulderbolg and his guild to understand why he might say that. His guild prefers small scale open field encounters, like 5v5 or 10v10, which has been very difficult for them to find in T1, while they found it quite often back when we were in T2. So it’s absolutely not about wanting to be the big bully in town, but rather finding fights more in line with their preferred playstyle.

I think we all miss the smaller scale battles. I am sure my video card does. But I don’t think you are going to see much of that in T2 either. I had hoped that it would die down a bit after a week but people are still obsessed with ranks.

You know boulderbolg that post really says a lot about you, and if your views are indeed shared by the rest of your server them too. I find it odd that you would even remotely think that moving down to t2 would be “fun”. And I say that because we have a very competitive tier now. And really if you were to go down to t2 the way your server is now it would be a blowout. There wouldn’t be much competition. Maybe you forgot http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/23#NA

So unless your idea of “fun” is being the biggest bully in the playground then you are exactly where you should be.

Besides the only way anyone is moving up or down is if a server implodes or a T2 server mass recruits and blows out the other servers in T2.

Just people trying to stir up trouble.

I don’t know about EU, but on NA servers I seriously doubt any T2 server would have the coverage to compete in T1. So I think honestly the system is working as intended; meaning that it is suppose to keep the servers that are fighting competitive.

No system is perfect and there are some problems. There are loopholes that happen because of coverage, some servers are really Tx.5 meaning they they have too many for their current tier but not enough for the next.

If there was more server movement you would still have stacked servers dropping down to a tier where they dominate, and servers moving up into tiers where they have no hope of competing in.

The sad fact is there is no way to have perfectly balanced match ups. There are very few (if any) servers that have equal coverage and numbers. And no amount of tinkering with server ratings will ever fix that.

Removing AoE cap would not hurt zergs. It would hurt uncoordinated and undisciplined groups.

If AoE cap was removed you would see a massive influx of AoE based classes like eles. Well cordinated snares/stuns and massive AoE would make the more coordinated groups too dominate. Even with a 5 AoE cap limit a well coordinated group already has a huge advantage.

@fragnstein.3486

Well you see you have to understand what our NA playing with oceanics/asianics is about. We are not waking up early to stack the server so we have super high PPT. We are getting up to support our oceanics/asianics. We get up early one day of the week to have fun with them in the morning. (and its a blast). Second, it is not required of anyone. We were asked to get up or stay up if we can. Those of us who do wake up early generally go to bed early too in order to do so. Is it overtime? Maybe, but not really as if we were to take that time and put it onto the end of our NA primetime instead of going to bed early and waking up early the PPT effect would be much greater. The whole point of it is community. Which is what our server is about.

We are not forcing anyone to throw in 16 hour shifts, in fact we are not even asking anyone to do so. A few may have done so. But that was their choice.

Whats wrong with being able to tap? Its a diversionary tactic. It is also smart to contest close WPs while attacking towers/keeps. And not to mention kitten near required to keep a keep contested that has a WP since 1-2 spawning near the lords room every other second makes capping impossible.

IMO Tapping is part of a good havoc team. Keeping the enemy on their toes and constantly checking things. Not to mention it slows down zergs and helps to break up server sized zergs.

The facts are this: JQ can take 1st place without trying. BG can take first place by burning themselves out. Lets not forget you guys took first place then took 3rd place the week after it. You cannot sustain 1st place. SoR could probably do the same thing as BG but that is not our playing style. We are not going to force people to log in for 16 hour shifts for 4 days in a row to make sure we get 1st place for a week.

SoR hits JQ just as hard as they do BG. And JQ hits SoR just as hard as they do BG. On SoR we boast we have the best NA… Maybe, maybe not. But I have to say we have the most resilient NA. We push people off of BLs every night… Yet I have never been pushed off of a map. (until people start logging off for the night) We have had a few bad nights as all servers have. So I shouldn’t say it never happens but it is very rare that we pull out of a map.

At the end of the week we don’t care if we are 1st, 2nd, or 3rd. You know why? Because every week we are getting stronger. And we have fun playing. As a game should be. If you treat a game as though it is a second job, I sure as hell hope you are a professional gamer and are actually getting paid for it. Because at the end of the day bragging rights are only relevant in the present. A few weeks, months, or years down the line things will change and no one will care that you won.

Well, I have not seen any dodgy arrow carts being used on any of the sieges I took part in today. Not to say someone isn’t. They could be trying to replicate the problem so they can send videos to Anet. Could be something else. I have not seen anyone complaining of dodgy arrowcarts today. So as of right now I am not worried.

Geko read the top line in the chat frame. They are clearly talking about something in the adventure box.

After a day of fluffy bunnies and colorful eggs the blood lust is running high on SoR.

I know for a fact that SoR and JQ are working together… You want to know how I know? Because when JQ is attacking BG SoR will cut off BG so they cant get in.

You know what else I know? I know for a fact that SoR and BG are working together… You want to know how I know? Because when Bg is attacking JQ SoR will cut off JQ so they cant get in.

And you know what. I know for a fact BG and JQ are working together… You want to know how I know? Because when one of them attacks us another will block us from getting in.

So…. If we are all working together why are we still fighting in the first place? Cant we all get along?

PS. SF thanks for coming into SoR BL after reset tonight. You have no idea how bored we have been in SoR bl the past few days. Been facing nothing but zergballs since the patch and honestly the last few days everyone has just been running from us before we even get in range. It was nice to actually have some fights.

Every server is zergball right now. Everyone wants to ride the wvw xp train.

Zergballs will die down a bit as the BLs become more coordinated. Early on it was just a lot of people sticking together pretty much running karma trains trying to speed level. IT was crazy, seeing 60-80 people like a tide of red washing over the land before you.

I doubt the commander book will ever be up for badges. Too many people would complain they had to spend 100g on it.

Depends when you consider the fight for a tower/keep to really be over and it just becomes a farm fest. I have been part of 6 hour farms in enemy servers garrisons where they just kept coming in and were unable to take it back and its nothing but constant bags when you are running siege.

I was able to target him a few times while in the wall using guardian staff 1 attack. But I don’t have time to report him before he is gone.

Thanks for taking the time to look into this wish, I know on SoR BL we have been trying to catch him at it too. I am pretty sure he has some kind of teleport hack as hes hitting one tower for a few seconds then a second or two later hes hitting garrison water gate.

Now that it looks like BG has locked up this week. I have to ask…. Do they have enough 5 hour energy to get through reset?

Honestly it doesn’t matter who’s tag they are supporting, or fake tag. And while I know this has to really kitten off JQ…. This complaining on the forums is just fueling the person doing it. You know that they’re reading these and just laughing it up at the havoc they are causing. Just report the person directly to Anet. I think we have fed the trolls enough. There is nothing us on SoR or BG can really do about it at this point.

It’s sad and pathetic that people do that sort of thing, just to stir up trouble and cause drama. But trolls will be trolls. In any case, looks like BG is making a big push tonight to try and take 1st…. Will JQ answer? Guess I shall find out when I wake up.

Well you see we on SoR found it odd that JQ wasn’t doing anything and was just letting BG take their stuff and catch up to us. So…… we thought it might be fun if we did the same and let BG take 1st this week. After all its JQ that must win right? We don’t care if we come in 1st or 3rd.

Is JQ really running a karma train? just wiped 30+ up leveled at SoR north camp…..

Choo was in BG tonight right? I think someone on BG made choo angry….. CHOO SMASH!

@jojojoon LoL coming from a serious FPS gamer background I would fight both. Trash talking is part of any game. And let’s face it they have not just put up 1 post. There have been a dozen or so posts and I am sure that they have sent pms to GLs and Commanders to set up gvgs too. And it is not like they are asking people to drop everything right now and do it. They are willing to set up dates and times. I see no reason to not fight them. Nothing better than a nice grudge match with a guild you hate every now and then.

EDIT: @SFShinigami They already had set up 3 dates at least to do the battle and EMP backed out every time. It clearly wasn’t that hard to set the dates up.