Guild Wars 2

I love how all these DB posters whining about 2v1 have become to voice of Dragonbrand.

Check the post history people. The old guard don’t care about 2v1, we’re used to it, we expect it, and we love it. It’s these skinny jean, young bloods that can’t take the heat.

Let it run it’s course, lot of these whines are probably first time WvWers. Active WvWers should know better.

Urrid.4593:

T2 is fun. Not going to lie. I really do miss the ninja stuff from T3-T5 though.

DB has done the impossible, they have helped FA and TC to begrudgingly get along with each other on the forums… I am floored by this!

This was our plan all along. We saw how much T2 tore you guys a part and it broke our hearts.

Now kiss.

Sharpoon.8197:

Might wanna wipe all that froth from your mouth. Relax

Funny you mention that – I haven’t even had my morning coffee yet

Asudementio.8526:

I must be missing something here. DB was going to move up to T2 without transfers. DB would have been stuck in that irritable tier 2.5 mess due to their lack of coverage. DB got more guilds to stay in T2. That’s what the situation is right? That’s how i understand it. DB worked their way up here but i cannot say that they wouldn’t have put up a good enough fight to stay in T2 because i didn’t get the opportunity to see that DB. Instead i get to see this version of DB and i can only assume from what posters from DB have said that without the guilds that transferred to DB they were not ready for T2. What’s the problem?

Were you not around during TC/DB/Mag back in early March? Judging by your post history, you were. That is the same DB that was moving up to T2. That is the same DB I mentioned in my previous post. That is the same DB you just said you did not get the opportunity to see, which you clearly did.

What’s the problem? The problem is almost all of your posts towards Dragonbrand have been in regards to “wagonbrand” as you have so fondly dubbed us and getting on us about our recent transfers despite not “being ready for T2.”

Asudementio.8526:

Perhaps you should be recruiting players if you find the populations imbalanced.

You said that in the TC/DB/MG thread way back in March, and that is exactly what we did in order to be competitive in this tier because we knew from TC/FA’s multiple visits to T3 that we were too small for T2.

So why do you keep going on and on about Dragonbrand not being ready for T2 without transfers but then Dragonbrand getting “bandwagoned” ?

Although mildly entertaining at best, your posts and quick jabs at us don’t really come off as “all there.”

Asudementio.8526:

Noobles.4325:

SquirtyMagoo.8321:

Heya TC/FA. One of the few remaining Kain here.

T3 is so dead. Even having lost thousands of WvW’ers and with only 1 major remaining WvW guild we are managing to stay in T3. This makes it clear that the gap between T2 and T3 is now so huge that there is not way a T3 server could make it in T2 without a huge bandwagon.
So maybe remember that when thinking about DB. If it was just the old guard, they probably would have been stomped back down in T3 in one week (since the reason they made it up was Kain’s collapse).

Anyway hope you guys are still doing what you do. <3

if you didn’t look we was stomping T3 well before w got any transfer in ye our transfer have helped a huge ton, but we would not have been push overs ether.

We’ll never know.

Of course you knew, you’re just being a kitten about it. You already fought the version of Dragonbrand that was supposed to move up to T2. Did Dragonbrand ever stop fighting even when TC/FA visited T3? Nope, we were out there fighting back the hordes of TC/FA who were clearly waaaay to big for T3.

That same Dragonbrand – without the transfers – was poised to move up to T2 against BOTH of the servers that destroyed T3. You know exactly what was going to happen – Dragonbrand would fight our hardest and work with what we had – but eventually get destroyed and swap places with either Mag or Kain week after week because of the huge population disparity between the T2 and T3 servers.

It’s not hard to deduce what was going to happen when TC/FA has already seen what Dragonbrand was all bout before the transfers. We were clearly too small for T2 when ONE T2 server came down to T3.

Elite Slasher.3561:

Here’s is a score and map update from a little bit ago. Hope you guys like it.

Loving that score update. Can we make this official?

Arkanfel.8403:

Jayne.9251:

Usagi.4835:

Arkanfel.8403:

Usagi.4835:

Arkanfel.8403:

Arkard.3970:

Someone’s obviously angry that their sense of entitlement to a free bandwagon win has been disrupted twice now by TC and FA.

10/10 would wat again

I never said TC didn’t deserve this week’s win. I never said that DB “should have” won or “deserved” to win. All I did was nominally criticize one aspect of TC’s game. If you can’t take that, it’s not my problem

You did a bit more than “nominally criticise”. You forgot the part where you said that TC wouldn’t have won without FA’s help. Nobody likes a smart-aleck!

Right, so I’m a “smart alec” for doubting it, but it’s perfectly okay for TC to say they would have “still won” without FA’s help.

Got it.

Because it’s true. All FA did was turn up to the party uninvited and cause some trouble by camping your spawn in EB and then taking Jerrifer’s. You know, the whole WvW meta doesn’t revolve around LLK and EB. Or were you not paying attention to TC flipping your borderland red? Get over yourself.

Actually FA turned all of eb blue pretty much the other night. That was pretty impressive. When FA wants something, they usually get it.

Yeah, I saw kitten of that! FA seems to get what they want when they want it… I just don’t think they have the population to do it consistently. Someone did a Game of Thrones breakdown of the servers a few weeks ago. My interpretation is that FA is the North: tactically adept, they win battles. But TC (Lannisters) have the numbers and the gold and their overall strategy is superior. kitten if I know who DB is though, we don’t really have an identity in this tier yet :P

EDIT: what. the. deuce. ANet, please fix this filter. My first sentence is “I saw a screenshot of that,” although “screenshot” is abbreviated. Why this is filtered I cannot begin to comprehend.

We’re the Dragon crossing the Narrow Sea of course!

Building up – our full potential not yet realized.

Usagi.4835:

Okay, you guys know the drill. New week, keep it clean and be nice to eachother! The most up-to-date scores will be posted here.

Like Evalana mentioned last week, if you feel like typing an angry dissertation, go eat some icecream instead.

Good luck!

That pic lol:

TC, DB, FA?

Bit.2519:

I heard this is where the alliance was meeting up.

This is . . . who do you work for #2?

Evalana.5480:

Yeah – I honestly didn’t see this thread when I put mine up… Where were you hiding it??

Point still stands – worst spy evaaarr!! XD

Good luck this week everyone. Looking forward to another nailbiter!!!

Jayne.9251:

Fuzzspark.7052:

Mad props to Tarnished Coast for pulling out the lead. Good to see competitors that bring it, all the way up to the end.

Thank you for being so gracious .. the old guard in DB always left that impression on me when we last met in T3.

That said, if our overzealous (posterior-hats) come out of the woodwork with the win, I’ll give everyone a cookie who ignores them.

It’s one of the reasons why I like being red, but blue is ok too.

It’s FA’s turn next week to whoop us both.

Props on the huge push and perhaps the win! Well done!

I, too, am just waiting for that day when FA comes out to play – it’ll be a bloodbath!

Iconik.8712:

8k deficit made up over night?

Dragonbrand has closed insanely worse deficits before. You haven’t participated in competitive match-ups in a long time huh? Or did you trick yourself into thinking Dragonbrand was this sort of super-monster-server and T2’s match-ups were decided already? We’re a strong T2 server just like FA and TC – 99.8% of Dragonbrand knows it – certain posters from across all 3 servers just hyped us up and you seem to have bought into it.

Read my previous post on p.13

EnRohbi.2187:

Iconik.8712:

Looks like DB is intentionally tanking this week so they don’t have to move.

Why does every discrepancy in the score have to be a server wide conspiracy to manipulate glicko?

It’s the new meta that only Dragonbrand knows, obviously!

In other news:
Welcome back TC!! Excellent push – Today is gonna be close one!

Honestly though, an overwhelming majority of us rather like in T2 and have no desire to go to T1. The guilds transferring over have made T2 a bit more competitive and it hasn’t been a complete annihilation of Dragonbrand similar to when FA/TC visited T3 – which i’m sure we’re all happy about despite forum warriors from all 3 servers.

Also, I love how everyone is obsessed with the fate of Dragonbrand as far as glicko rating, moving up to T1, bandwagoning, imploding etc. Get a grip. Looking at the current score, TC/FA is just as strong if not stronger than Dragonbrand during NA prime. FA has no shortage of quality guilds and i’m sure when they come out of hibernation (finals, etc) they’ll be just as strong, too. Whatever happens in T1 (speculation of JQ imploding, etc.), any one of our servers is poised to benefit from it as T2 is very competitive at the moment.

Were the first 2 weeks of Dragonbrand in T2 unexpected, sure! But in hindsight, look at the factors:

- [RE], [Agg], [rB], and [NS] joined Dragonbrand NA crew giving them a much needed boost in order to compete in T2.
- Insanely high morale. Many DB were pumped to be moving up to T2 finally ending our long stint in T3.
- TC, FA, DB enjoying the new PvE (Frost & Flame) content which affected everyone’s WvW pop, but DB less-so it seemed.
- Arrowcarts
- Finals, work, vacations, etc.

Timing and inches my friends, timing and inches. All those factors played a part in how T2 looked the first couple of weeks – now that things are starting to simmer down and even out – T2 (hopefully) looks to be competitive for a long time, something we all should be aiming for as it is far less poisonous here than in T1 (where servers go to die).

So let’s all get a grip, some need to get their heads out of their kitten and let’s enjoy this competitive tier since we’ll all be here awhile, mmmkay?

/drama

I Monk For L O V E.7528:

FrankieBonez.8361:

Darius Glazkov.9750:

shagworth.5017:

Silly me. And here I thought it was because of NNK and throngs of people that came to ride on their coattails. Guess I was wrong.

NNK is probably one of the few guilds I have respect for on DB. they have stuck with DB for… ever. I just hope that when DB collapses (lets face it, it will happen like it does to pretty much every server that gets bandwagoned) that NNK stays on DB. true showing of server pride.

Maguuma is now top of t3, only because everything above us has imploded or dissolved into our enemies above us. as soon as i saw BG closing in on JQQ, i knew JQ would begin to die, here we have the first sign of panic. how will this effect the tiers? who knows. looking forward to all the juicy drama, tier shifting, and speculation due to point evolution in the coming weeks.

Despite of all the new transfers to Dragonbrand our community and WvW culture has stayed in-tact. No guilds stepping on eachother’s toes, no delegating shifts, no alliances, no drama, no egos, no poison. They have been nothing but respectful and have assimilated well with how Dragonbrand has always functioned.

If/When we do implode, which many of you are hoping we do for some odd reason – i’m sure those who have been on Dragonbrand from the start will remain on Dragonbrand (I know EA, Duel, UhOh, TG, a good portion of BP, TFV and NNK are mainly comprised of Dragonbrand loyalists). We’ve been there, done that – and will gladly do it again. T1, T8 and everything between – we will remain. I’m pretty sure I can speak for most of Dragonbrand when I say, We’re not concerned.

Just wanted to tell you TG hasnt been on DB since the start :/

I know. Meant to put them with BP as “good portion of.”

Asudementio.8526:

FrankieBonez.8361:

EnRohbi.2187:

What are you talking about?
Back during the whole “Isle of Jaspenwood” thing, we had a lot more courtesy regarding your transfers than you’re having about ours.

Every post coming out of FA is just “Dragonwagon this” or “Brandwagon that”,
Show some class and get over it.

I’ve decided that Asudementio wanted an easy stomp (like he had when FA was in T3 – even after their IoJ transfers) . He (notice i said he, and not the whole FA) didn’t get the easy win and is bitter about it.

I’ve never seen anyone complain so much about an abundance of targets on the field and a decently competitive tier.

I don’t want an easy stomp but don’t let me persuade you otherwise. What i want is a competitive tier with well-mannered opponents, but i gave up on that long ago when i first saw how DB decided to portray themselves. No one i playwith enjoys easy fights, but we enjoy condescending kitteny opponents even less.

With our new transfers, we have made it a competitive tier. Had we not had the boost to our NA, which we were always desperately in need of – we would’ve been slaughtered in T2 and you would have little resistance (from DB) during NA prime.

Also, check the history – which tags brought you to the conclusion that Dragonbrand was condescending and not well-mannered? Perhaps you should start focusing your jabs towards certain guilds/persons and not Dragonbrand as a whole. but of course – it’s easier to generalize.

Darius Glazkov.9750:

shagworth.5017:

Silly me. And here I thought it was because of NNK and throngs of people that came to ride on their coattails. Guess I was wrong.

NNK is probably one of the few guilds I have respect for on DB. they have stuck with DB for… ever. I just hope that when DB collapses (lets face it, it will happen like it does to pretty much every server that gets bandwagoned) that NNK stays on DB. true showing of server pride.

Maguuma is now top of t3, only because everything above us has imploded or dissolved into our enemies above us. as soon as i saw BG closing in on JQQ, i knew JQ would begin to die, here we have the first sign of panic. how will this effect the tiers? who knows. looking forward to all the juicy drama, tier shifting, and speculation due to point evolution in the coming weeks.

Despite of all the new transfers to Dragonbrand our community and WvW culture has stayed in-tact. No guilds stepping on eachother’s toes, no delegating shifts, no alliances, no drama, no egos, no poison. They have been nothing but respectful and have assimilated well with how Dragonbrand has always functioned.

If/When we do implode, which many of you are hoping we do for some odd reason – i’m sure those who have been on Dragonbrand from the start will remain on Dragonbrand (I know EA, Duel, UhOh, TG, a good portion of BP, TFV and NNK are mainly comprised of Dragonbrand loyalists). We’ve been there, done that – and will gladly do it again. T1, T8 and everything between – we will remain. I’m pretty sure I can speak for most of Dragonbrand when I say, We’re not concerned.

Jayne.9251:

FrankieBonez.8361:

EnRohbi.2187:

What are you talking about?
Back during the whole “Isle of Jaspenwood” thing, we had a lot more courtesy regarding your transfers than you’re having about ours.

Every post coming out of FA is just “Dragonwagon this” or “Brandwagon that”,
Show some class and get over it.

I’ve decided that Asudementio wanted an easy stomp (like he had when FA was in T3 – even after their IoJ transfers) . He (notice i said he, and not the whole FA) didn’t get the easy win and is bitter about it.

I’ve never seen anyone complain so much about an abundance of targets on the field and a decently competitive tier.

Sadly I think he’s one of ours Just ignore him. Or take a look at his posting history.

Already have, just making it known to others

On that note, my goodness TC!! – i thought you guys would be vacationing in Southsun Cove for a lot longer – didn’t like the new resort or something? Great fights the last few days, score is tightening up.

EnRohbi.2187:

What are you talking about?
Back during the whole “Isle of Jaspenwood” thing, we had a lot more courtesy regarding your transfers than you’re having about ours.

Every post coming out of FA is just “Dragonwagon this” or “Brandwagon that”,
Show some class and get over it.

I’ve decided that Asudementio wanted an easy stomp (like he had when FA was in T3 – even after their IoJ transfers) . He (notice i said he, and not the whole FA) didn’t get the easy win and is bitter about it.

I’ve never seen anyone complain so much about an abundance of targets on the field and a decently competitive tier.

Gellor.6497:

Usagi.4835:

Noobles.4325:

TC becoming yaksbend of T2 with the night crew QQing.

I honestly don’t care. I’m happy with where TC is currently, but I don’t understand your reasoning for moving to a server that already has the most consistent coverage in Tier 2 (so you’re not making DB “more competitive”). I don’t know much about FA’s presence during the various timeslots, but surely it’d make more sense to move to FA or even a server in Tier 3 or Tier 4.

It seems JQ is in somewhat dire straits atm, so you’re basically unbalancing both tiers.

Like Eva, I’m going to insert a disclaimer so that everyone knows that my views do not reflect those of my server or my guild etc.

Noobles is in EA and has been on DB, not a transfer

Yeah, I saw this coming lol:

[EA] Noobles =/= [RE] Noodles

:) Think he thought Noobles was someone else.

Asudementio.8526:

Yea i’m sure DB won’t mind waiting for JQ to drop so they can go up, after all they waited for KN.

We have absolutely no control of how/when servers move up or down. So you saying we “waited” for servers to drop to move up implies that we were secretly biding our time to strike upwards.

The reality of it is, there were 4 T2 servers at the time – Kaineng, Fort Aspenwood, Tarnished Coast and Dragonbrand. Someone has to drop for another server to move up. That’s how rankings work.

Also, we did make it to Tier 2 on our own.

Asudementio.8526:

Yea i’m sure DB won’t mind waiting for JQ to drop so they can go up, after all they waited for KN.

The Dragonbrand conspiracy begins. That’s it! We make other servers lose in their tier then wait for them to implode and drop, then we strike hard while the iron is hot so we can move up. Do you see how ridiculous that sounds? Do you know how the ratings system works?

You sound like you have some animosity towards DB for no reason at all – from your reply to one of my earlier posts, now this. First we are omgbandwagonxtreme server – and now we are cross-tier saboteurs who can mold tiers to suit our needs.

Like I said, the kitten people smoke . . . .

edit: in response to your reply to my earlier post. I don’t ever recall DB calling FA or TC a “bandwagon” server nor a desire to see either implode. Both servers were too big for T3, we knew it and rolled with it.

Redscope.6215:

Hickeroar.9734:

I feel a disturbance in the force… O_o

That feeling is the death of yet another bandwagon server. RIP Dragonbandwagon.

Lol, not even close to bandwagon. We were already too big for T3 but too small for T2. The new guilds are helping us stay competitive.

Guess if you call us a bandwagon server, and make us out to be the boogieman – it’d be easier to accept a loss from Dragonbrand seeing as how FA and TC decimated us before during their visit in T3.

the kitten you guys smoke and have the nerve to share with others . . . .

Maniac.5163:

I just don’t get it.. a guild didn’t ‘carry’ DB NA in T3
but it’s ok when a guild claims it carried the entire server from T3 to future T1 gold!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Throwing-in-my-Commander-tag-RISE/first#post2002248

All good brother, EMP aka RE is having the same success you are having and a lot of people are hating on JQ. The only difference between you and rawbrah is you moved to a #2 T1 server and got it to #1. Rawbrah he brought a T3 server all way up to T2 and dominating T2 soon enough he will be in T1 and there will be lots of drama especially if RE owns our JQ NA guilds.

Don’t know the relevance of that quote you posted. uberkingkong isn’t even from Dragonbrand, nor this tier – i’m sure you knew that, but decided to quote him anyway thinking “gotcha, dragonbrand!!”

Fact is, RE transferred over practically when we were already poised to move up to T2. Their presence, along with our other transfers, only made us competitive in this tier. Is that a bad thing seeing as we were crushed by TC and FA when they visited T3? Nope.

FrankieBonez.8361:

Conjure up stories to pad you’re argument, that usually works when trying to win one.

You can take that quote to the bank and cash it.

Hadan.2841:

Carried DB’s NA for months and decided to leave when DB got transfers and started to win and im a bandwagoner? Pft the core Dbers, nonexistent when FA and TC beat on us and now act like you been around for months doing ur thing.

P.S send 50 more to get our 5mans…lol

The core Dragonbranders were there, fighting just as hard against FA, TC and Kain when they were much much bigger than us. As for carrying the NA? You did you’re part, but far from carrying DB NA, didn’t even notice you left until someone mentioned it halfway through the 2nd week with SoS.

I also heard you had no ill feelings towards DB, and you’re reason for leaving is because you were tired of ZvZ. If those were true, why sling trash towards Dragonbrand now? Also, why go to T2 of all places to avoid ZvZ? Come on Wreckd, thought you were better than that.

Well, that’s one less ego to clash against the “oh so many” egos Dragonbrand has supposedly received. Conjure up stories to pad you’re argument, that usually works when trying to win one.

Ok, here’s my take on everything.

- TC/FA taking a break – so are people on DB. New PvE content, finals week, burn out, OP Arrowcarts, etc etc – those are not unique to your respective server. We’re ALL going through this.

- I, for one, do not care for T1 nor have understood the lure of it. Would it be an accomplishment for Dragonbrand to hit T1? Absolutely, I would be extremely proud of Dragonbrand if we ever accomplish that. But, like many servers before, people will get bored/burned out and eventually transfer off or stop playing all-together. T1 is where servers go to die – fact. It is an inevitablity that only a server’s community can remedy until a better system is put in place.

- Should Dragonbrand implode (for a second time) as many of you are wishing and hoping (don’t even try and hide it) – I welcome it. The most fun i’ve had is fighting our way back up with those that chose to rough it out after the exodus – it was tough, but gave us a sense of accomplishment and sculpted the core WvW community. Win or lose, every week was something new, every red name was different. Why do you think it’s hard recruiting guilds from Dragonbrand? I’ve only known of one major guild that left Dragonbrand since our rise back up – and some of them have already returned.

I am sure I can speak for most of my guild and hopefully most of Dragonbrand when I say, we’ve been there, done that and we’ll gladly do it again. Elephant Ambush, no matter how big or small, T1 or T8 and everything in-between, we will remain on Dragonbrand.

cheshire.3712:

FrankieBonez.8361:

wookie.8934:

cheshire.3712:

wookie.8934:

cheshire.3712:

FrankieBonez.8361:

cheshire.3712:

FrankieBonez.8361:

cheshire.3712:

I’m sorry, did you say something? I kind of started not caring about what you have to say at this point. Anyone else have something worthwhile to mention? Ending the rant for me. Hope I didn’t ruin your evening wookie. You might want to go take some headache pills from all my whining and lay down for a bit.

They “camp” it because you keep coming back and feeding them easy badges. Wait a few, they’ll get bored and leave. If they dont – warn /map and get it another time and let the campers rot – or – say something in /map and deal with it.

They also do it waiting for a post, just like yours, to appear in the forums to feed on your tears.

QQ about PvP in a PvP zone, QQ about double-teaming, zerging, ACs. – This thread’s got it all!!!

Might seem odd but I was enjoying the conversation. They kept responding Pretty sure none of that was a qq and trust me, no tears were shed. If it was taken as if I was, people are pretty gullible and will believe what they want. There’s a difference between a qq and a rant for a response.

Pretty sure they are one in the same.

Yet people keep responding and I feel the urge to respond……

Just think – in the amount of time it took to respond to mine and Frankie’s posts, you could have had what you wanted.

Already did, on all four alts left for mapping. Thanks for your concern. Did it awhile ago after a larger force took them out. Gg though.

Welp, then that wraps up this week’s episode of “How I Learned to Overcome my Ignorance.” Thanks for tuning in!

Stay tuned for next week’s juicy episode.

Kitten, this is like Game of Thrones all over again. I need my fix!!!!

Creep much Sorin? Stop stalking people sheesh.

So I creep, yeah. Just keep it on the down low, since nobody is supposed to know.

wookie.8934:

cheshire.3712:

wookie.8934:

cheshire.3712:

FrankieBonez.8361:

cheshire.3712:

FrankieBonez.8361:

cheshire.3712:

I’m sorry, did you say something? I kind of started not caring about what you have to say at this point. Anyone else have something worthwhile to mention? Ending the rant for me. Hope I didn’t ruin your evening wookie. You might want to go take some headache pills from all my whining and lay down for a bit.

They “camp” it because you keep coming back and feeding them easy badges. Wait a few, they’ll get bored and leave. If they dont – warn /map and get it another time and let the campers rot – or – say something in /map and deal with it.

They also do it waiting for a post, just like yours, to appear in the forums to feed on your tears.

QQ about PvP in a PvP zone, QQ about double-teaming, zerging, ACs. – This thread’s got it all!!!

Might seem odd but I was enjoying the conversation. They kept responding Pretty sure none of that was a qq and trust me, no tears were shed. If it was taken as if I was, people are pretty gullible and will believe what they want. There’s a difference between a qq and a rant for a response.

Pretty sure they are one in the same.

Yet people keep responding and I feel the urge to respond……

Just think – in the amount of time it took to respond to mine and Frankie’s posts, you could have had what you wanted.

Already did, on all four alts left for mapping. Thanks for your concern. Did it awhile ago after a larger force took them out. Gg though.

Welp, then that wraps up this week’s episode of “How I Learned to Overcome my Ignorance.” Thanks for tuning in!

Stay tuned for next week’s juicy episode.

Kitten, this is like Game of Thrones all over again. I need my fix!!!!

wookie.8934:

Just think – in the amount of time it took to respond to mine and Frankie’s posts, you could have had what you wanted.

Nah, i’m still camping waiting for them to come by so they can post about me. Aint nobody getting map completion. NOBODY!

Gimme my internet fame!

cheshire.3712:

Yet people keep responding and I feel the urge to respond……

It keeps the thread bumped showing how utterly awesome this Tier is for all to see!

cheshire.3712:

FrankieBonez.8361:

cheshire.3712:

I’m sorry, did you say something? I kind of started not caring about what you have to say at this point. Anyone else have something worthwhile to mention? Ending the rant for me. Hope I didn’t ruin your evening wookie. You might want to go take some headache pills from all my whining and lay down for a bit.

They “camp” it because you keep coming back and feeding them easy badges. Wait a few, they’ll get bored and leave. If they dont – warn /map and get it another time and let the campers rot – or – say something in /map and deal with it.

They also do it waiting for a post, just like yours, to appear in the forums to feed on your tears.

QQ about PvP in a PvP zone, QQ about double-teaming, zerging, ACs. – This thread’s got it all!!!

Might seem odd but I was enjoying the conversation. They kept responding Pretty sure none of that was a qq and trust me, no tears were shed. If it was taken as if I was, people are pretty gullible and will believe what they want. There’s a difference between a qq and a rant for a response.

Pretty sure they are one in the same.

cheshire.3712:

I’m sorry, did you say something? I kind of started not caring about what you have to say at this point. Anyone else have something worthwhile to mention? Ending the rant for me. Hope I didn’t ruin your evening wookie. You might want to go take some headache pills from all my whining and lay down for a bit.

They “camp” it because you keep coming back and feeding them easy badges. Wait a few, they’ll get bored and leave. If they dont – warn /map and get it another time and let the campers rot – or – say something in /map and deal with it.

They also do it waiting for a post, just like yours, to appear in the forums to feed on your tears.

QQ about PvP in a PvP zone, QQ about double-teaming, zerging, ACs. – This thread’s got it all!!!

Nodrey.3948:

Thanks for making WvW completely unfun and unfair to play. The double teaming is not over exaggerated, it’s disgustingly obvious. Where the hell our TC’s commanders that I ran around with pulling insane plans that had people going “Wtf just happened?” Things are so disgusting, I dont know which is worse, the obvious double teaming, or the fact that our commanders who know what the kitten they are doing seem to have vanished like a fart in the wind.

Let me guess, you were in your own BL where this “double teaming” occurred.

Evalana.5480:

I found the cross-eyed norn… </3

Score update with one of my favorite people on DB!

oh snap! XD

If only we can get to you in that BT ball . . . .

Soon Eva…..soon.

Unfortunately.5940:

@gif

Lol, laughed way too long at that.

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Curiousity strikes me, I know that for at least one of the guilds this is their second transfer in several weeks. Is DB concerned about these groups band-wagoning to another server again?

Nope, we’ve been there done that. If they choose to leave at a later time, then Dragonbrand will wish them well and continue to WvW just a fiercely as we do now. [Krew], one of our bigger NA guilds, left for Gunnar’s Hold to pursue other experiences. No Branded harbored any ill feeling towards them, we wished them well and even praised Gunnar’s Hold for getting [Krew].

The thing is, as Caliburn stated, no one guild runs Dragonbrand. There are no alliances, no inter/intra-guild drama, no guild stepping on another’s toes. It is a loose coalition of WvW guilds who just want to have fun in whatever tier we end up in. Had it been the contrary, we’d have fallen off (again) a long time ago.

Dragonbrand knows where it stands as a WvW community, we put our egos aside and help each other when needed. We take the good with the good, the bad with the bad.

EnRohbi.2187:

I wish this wasn’t the reality of the situation.
This is one of the reasons why tiers become imbalanced,
People on the losing servers just resign themselves to a loss and don’t even bother trying.

Then the first place servers wins by a more inflated margin every week because the other servers don’t put out their full forces ever, and less over time.

This. Dragonbrand was able to close a 50+k gap on BP and SoS after being trounced for most of the week in our respective matchups. Maguuma was able to edge out 1st place out of nowhere, if I recall correctly, against us in the lower tiers. Yes, coverage plays a factor, but ultimately it comes down to how much people want it. We could’ve easily “given up” while we were behind.

We never stopped trying against KN, TC and FA during their visits in T3 – our numbers were just not enough, but we were out in force all the time.

Guess some servers are just cut from a different cloth.

saiyr.3071:

Yeah, you can’t be our arch nemesis. That’s Ehmry.

awww, ok. :sad face:

Snafu.7412:

Heh, DB’s rise is inevitable now (whether that is a good thing or a bad you’ll find out soon enough), I’m sure your SEA crew is ecstatic about the upcoming competition from TC and FA. It is unfortunate us Mags(or Yak’s for that matter) just can’t match your size during that time period.

It seemed only yesterday where we had that great Christmas week battle between our three servers(some of the most fun I had). We (DB and Mag) both fell and rose,to some extent, and both somehow came out of the onslaught of Kaineng , Tarnished Coast, and Fort Aspenwood alive.
Had some good 1v1’s, small skirmishes, and large scales battles/defenses. As I won’t be able to play until reset good luck to DB may your endeavors in T2 be full of TC and FA loot bags. Maybe we will meet again one day on even terms.

As to Kaineng it seems their meteroic rise to T1 has lost steam. Hopefully them dropping will lead to an even slightly better matchup. I still anticipate KN has a fairly large SEA presence even with WM leaving. Well, I think Friday’s reset will be interesting

Lol, it’s quite a love-story. Besides SoS, i’ve always seen Mag as our arch-nemesis – DB and Mag always seem to find each other in the same tier one way or another. Kinda creepy . . . .

saiyr.3071:

WM and CO are leaving Kaineng and we’re unsure of how that will impact their coverage/numbers.

Well, kitten. News to me. There may be a balanced T3 matchup incoming after all!! kitten Mag – you guys always get to have fun.

TheBigfootNZ.4605:

Heh, see there’s that db attitude, I voice a legitimate beef and get back sarcasm… unless your being genuine, in which case color me weirded out (im probably the least skilled person I know and you simply cant deny that your constant dominance in t2 is purely due to your coverage and numbers).

Not gonna argue about it, I said my peace.

Hope you guys get enough of a score this week to move up, its for the best of us all, Yaks, Mags and db, im happy where I am and simply want to fight a fair fight, you can have and play the glorious ascension to t1 game all you want.

So you think the T2 server coming down to join you guys in T3 is going to be any better? FA has a monster NA and Oceanic crew and Kaineng has a much larger SEA than we do.

T3 is going to be a mess for the next few weeks with T2 servers hopping in and out of T3 like it was a month or so back. That is, unless another T1 superserver tanks . . .

I honestly hope Dragonbrand doesn’t become a “stacked server.” I’m proud that Dragonbrand has gotten to where it is while growing organically on our way back up the tiers. We’ve never (at least to my knowledge) bribed or coerced a guild to join our server. I would like to believe that guilds join Dragonbrand on their own volition, and by the quality of our server – not because it’s “the next big thing.”

Our NA slot is our weakest coverage point and the addition of [EMP] and the other supposed transfers are greatly welcomed. We were poised to move to T2 without transfers but are too small to stay competitive having faced all the current T2 servers during their visits to T3. These transfers should hopefully ensure our competitiveness in T2 so we are not just a doormat.

P.S If the defensive capabilities of [EMP] are true, then I feel bad for anyone trying to take EK when [EA] and [EMP] are both there defending.

saiyr.3071:

I’ve hardly seen any EA this match, where do you guys play?

We’ve been on defense in our BL for most of the match-up. We hop in and out of WvW wherever/whenever we are needed.

Some DB guilds have “raid times” to combat getting burned out. Constantly WvWing and nothing else leads to a quicker way of losing numbers for a longer period of time. This happened with [EA] during our climb back up, lost a lot of people to burn out who have since stopped WvW and GW2 all together.

[EA] has official raids 3-4 times a week where we can field close to 50 for 5+ hours. In between official raids, the hardcore WvW masochists in [EA] can field 15-20 at any given moment.

Honestly though, if all the DB NA guilds raided at the same time, you guys would probably QQ about that, too. Then what? kitten if you do, kitten if you don’t.

/salute [Krew]

Gunnar’s Hold – you guys got a good group of people fighting for your side. Dragonbrand will miss you guys.

P.S [Krew] Doesn’t leave many alive, get your WxP when you can lol. /bow

I’ve seen every excuse and QQ in the book in this thread from YB posters.

- Emotes (really!?)
- Night-capping (Welcome to T3)
- PvDoor (all sides do this – all the time – during every timezone)
- Zerging (it’s WvW after a shiny new patch!!)
- and now map hopping to take PPT advantage (really?!)

Are you guys new to WvW or have you lost your spine? What do you expect in T3+? Only gonna get worse. DB was stuck in this tier with Kain, FA and TC taking turns annihilating us but we knew what to expect and roughed it out.

I honestly can’t wait til Mag comes back, I look forward to more YB poster tears.

rchu.8945:

hello,

hows the WvW scene in this tier? I am from T1, looking to transfer to either T2/T3/T4, can anyone offer a unbiased opinion?

In T1, its currently mega zerg ball vs mega zerg ball, where 60 to 70 rolls around and much skill lag problem for me, I just want to see if other tiers have such issues.

If any PvX guild is looking for more and is NA prime time friend, give me some info here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/guilds/guilds/T1-player-looking-for-PvX-guild-in-T2-T3-T4

thanks.

Keep in mind that everyone is still trying out the new patch, on top of the people coming back for the Super Adventure Box. WvW activity has doubled since the WvW update. It’ll die down once the shininess wears off (hopefully).

T3 has been enjoyable now that it is more “evenly” matched. The only problem with this tier is that all 3 server’s primetime’s dont overlap often enough resulting in skewed PTT during different times of the day.

Before the WvW update you were able to find small group/solo fights frequently. Not so much now, but like i said, hopefully it’ll die down just a tad. Everyone likes zergballing because now they see the true numbers of the enemy.

It’s only a grind if you make it a grind. You won’t be missing out on much with the passives anyway. They are not game changing/breaking in any way. Will they help, sure! Are they necessary? Nope! Not unless you’re “one of those” who has to have everything in an MMO, in whcch case – everything is a grind for you.

I honestly dont care for the passive abilities enough to grind for them. If/when I do get enough wXP for them then great! Until then, I will continue to WvW just as i’ve been doing for moths – because it’s fun.

Been in some massive fights in EBG. I have models on “Lowest” and # of players on “Highest” and i’ve experienced very little lag. Don’t really care what the opponent looks like, just as long as i can see they’re there. Kudos to Anet, was skeptical about the culling removal claim but have been very impressed so far.

Gonna have to pull myself from WvW to experience the rest of the Razing, but all in all – a decent patch altogether. Nice work.

Solo Necromancer roaming and small scale combat with [EA] Elephant Ambush of Dragonbrand. Special appearance by [AoN] All or Nothing.