Guild Wars 2

An excellent close to the wonderful story of Sea of Sorrows rising through the ranks and reaching #1

We have created a legend this day. Be proud of what you have done for your server.

Yay, good job everyone.

are we still arguing about this? get your server organized and it will not be a problem

on SOS all commanders have the ettiquette to turn off their commanders until approved by the main guilds who operate and are responsible for that zone

it wont matter anyways because no one will follow the new commanders

new commanders only get to rise if they recieve the blessing of the major wvw guilds, where we will direct our members to follow him and assess his abilities.

youre wrong

they moderate posts very fast so they must be here

Hehe

Nothing rallies SOS troops into WvW better than telling them that they can go into WvW and kill Daish.

Daish > FotM

I hope Daish comes back.

It will be a lot less entertaining without him around.

I mean…lots of people on SOS don’t know who are the guild leaders of the largest guilds…but everyone knows Daish

He’s great at what he does.

Bots is not a server problem.

It’s a MMO problem that plagues every single game. Please don’t blame any server for it.

The best we can do is report and let Anet deal with it.

it doesnt matter if someone transfered servers or not. if they come, stay and contribute they are part of sos.

who seriously keeps a log of what server people are from?

awww the charity thread got deleted

um….i dunno what to do anymore. tell your friends over the phone i guess

we still maintain the lead. keep it up!

SOS dont give yourself excuses now. we have shown we are capable standing toe to toe with other tier 1 servers in strategy and ability.

the only thing that can make sos lose is lack of participation.

keep getting people into the boarderlands. spam your guild. spam lions arch. spam those new pve areas.

do you want to tell people that you “did some pve and killed some mobs like we’ve done in WOW for the last 10 years” or you “helped carry your server from rank 12 to rank 1 champion in 1 swift 2 month undefeated rise to the top”?

Dedicated wvw players should all spend 5 to 10 minutes before and after wvw spamming lions arch and whispering friends and guildees to get into wvw

If you can get 3 to 5 people into wvw who otherwise wouldnt have, You have done your server proud

At this time SOS still maintains a lead in WvW but I am extremely disappointed with the amount of infighting on this thread.

Daish has been rally people into WvW since the beginning of this server and even if you dont like his style, he has shown dedication.

Meanwhile I see entire boarderlands empty during oceanic times. Please instead of writing shameful hate posts here go to Lions Arch and rally people get to into WvW. Every able body is needed!

And reminder FotM is here to stay but an undefeated climb from tier 5 to tier 1 is a one in a seever life time event. Dont screw up at the finish line. As day 1 has shown us we do have the skill to play in tier 1. Now we only need to get in and play!

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have done it. Today, Sea of Sorrows has finally reached Tier 1 in WvW Rankings.

Being in the server’s first WvW focused guild, I have had the privilege to watch our server rise from the biggest joke in the WvW scene to where we stand now. Our rise in the past few weeks was swift, but I want to remind everyone of all the painstaking setbacks we had to endure to get here.

August 25th, Sea of Sorrows was born. It was the unofficial home to Oceanics. Almost immediately we were labeled a care-bear PVE Server with no competitiveness in WvW. Our only advantage was that we were dirty night cappers who were amazing at PvDooring ghost towns.

But we fight on.

September 17th, guilds from another server wiped us out in WvW and spawn camped us for 5 days in a row. They entered our server and convinced many that SoS was a lost cause in WvW and the only way to succeed was to leave, and many did.

But we fight on.

October 1st, another 2 weeks of losing disheartened many WvW players on our server. Several WvW guilds and key commanders left our server to find an easier time elsewhere. The outlook of our server was at its grimmest.

But we fight on.

October 10th For the we barely held our ground in tier 5 rankings, our first WvW Oceanic-USA Alliance broke down and the few USA WvW guilds we had left our server. Even Oceanic guild leaders received server transfer invitations left and right, it seemed the SOS goal of WvW success was forever a dream.

But we fight on.

October 20th A major turning point. Major guild alliances disband across servers. Major hardcore USA time zone guilds began to move into Sea of Sorrows seeing the potential of having more Oceanic partners. They came, and they promised to stay.

We fight on.

October 29th Playing into our rising momentum, we begin recruitment efforts of European guilds to join SOS. Although it is still a work in progress, the number of European time zone players continues to rise to this day. Everyday our numbers swell, more and more WvW veterans join our call to battle from all over the world.

We fight strong.

And here we are, today. November 16th 2012 will mark the day when Sea of Sorrows officially enters into Tier 1 WvW Matchup. We don’t know if we are ready, most likely it will be an uphill struggle to the bitter end.

But it is in the uphill struggle where we thrive. This is where to will be conditioned through the bloodiest of battles.

I am proud of every single Sea of Sorrowrian who has stepped up over the last 80 days and pulled our server together. Together, we have proven that not a single minute of our time was wasted. Not a single piece of gold was ill spent. No matter how many times we wipe, we will keep smashing our tired bodies against the gates of our enemies. I also want to thank the guilds who have transferred to SOS. Thank you for training us and putting up with our lack of experience and discipline, we swear to continue improving, as a server together.

Tomorrow will be a challenging day. It just so happens that SoS’s ascension into Tier One falls onto the day of the Lost Shore major patch. The lure of the evil PVE is great, but we will hold the line regardless. Remember that your gear or shiney new toys is just a passing phase and any benefits will be wiped out within a week, but stepping up to tier 1 the day we rise is an event forever marked in your legacy. We need you to hold the line.

Sea of Sorrows. Make history today.

FREEDOM~~~!!!!

Oh and thanks to PRX for offering guidance on how to defend SM

Woot, just took back Stonemist. Just in time to hand off to Americans.

Good fight guys, keep it up.

Score update please

Lol I guess I take full responsibility for the failed golem attack on SoS BL

It was 29 alpha golems and 1 omega golem

We wiped because because I was told the cannon and oil was down and a portal was up so we took it.

Was fun, too bad I only had 2 hours to play. 50 golems tomorrow, promise you guys tomorrow!

Love the new challenging match up! Lets keep it classy this week.

Has anyone noticed that ever since week 2, burning oil has been something that is completely obsolete?

All it currently serves to do is to delay the building of rams for about 20-30 seconds. No one in their right mind would build rams until the oil is gone, or if they do, they obviously don’t WvW enough so don’t treat them as the norm.

I recommend a few changes to make this more interesting.

KEY CHANGES:
1. Make burning oil indestructible OR only destructible by balista/catapults/trebuchet

OPTIONAL:
1. Make burning oil usable by multiple people up to 10. The more people using it, the more damage it does to rams and players standing under the door.

2. Make burning oil use require supplies (it takes oil! makes perfect sense). requires say 30 supplies a shot but creates devastating damage to rams and people.

3. Make burning oil a lot more powerful but increase the cooldown period to much longer.

4. Decrease the damage it does to golems or else golems will no longer be used AND make oil cause golems to malfunction for a 5 seconds after it gets hit by oil. This makes oil a serious threat to golems, but does not make golems completely useless against oil.

Side Notes:
1. Catapult behind gate should really be fixed. Yes I know there are ways to counter and yes maybe its very hard to code and design. But It simply does not make sense! Oil should be the main defense against rams.

2. I think arrow carts should not do so much damage to rams and ram users. Maybe give ram users a sheltered buff to defend against arrow carts, most ramming in real life war is done under a shelter too to defend against arrows. Oil should be the main defense against rams.

Find a choke point. Funnel them in. Build balistas to kill them, arrow carts to slow them and catapults knock them back. Send 1 person back to lions arch to rally more players.

Why are you guys even arguing?

SoS is winning because we have more people 24/7. A week ago we were in the same but reverse situation as Mag and DB. This is how WvW is played, you don’t like it talk to Anet. SoS chose to deal with how Anet made the game, and we were lucky that our recruitment efforts have been heard and answered. We will celebrate it, our people have suffered long hard weeks of getting spawn camped (SoS is the topic of one of GW2 most famous and widely seen spawn camp videos, the RUIN Golem Quarantine, we remember our shame).

We are clearly mismatched. There is no joy in victory against Mag and DB. But we are overjoyed by the arrival of our new found American allies, of whom we have become fast friends with.

Good luck to you guys! History has taught me that running into an unfairly out numbered situation really pulls your server together and shows you who’s your core members.

Flame wars on this forums aside, my experiences with real Mag players in game shows that they do have a wonderful community and great players (Jerk Jerk and his goon preaching and 10 min long 1v1 duel with Dane Wildling have been highlights for me this week).

Hope your recruitment efforts pay off and hope to see you again in the future.

It’s so funny how people think I’m boasting when I’m cheering on SoS as I’ve always done.

Before when we were losing, I’m a respected martyr. Now that we’re winning, I’m a boasting idiot. lol

Good work guys.

Latest score update.

You sure we exploited? Perhaps it’s just a minor glitch with the game.

I seriously don’t see any reason why someone from SoS would purposely exploit at this moment….

Looks like your day capping plan didn’t work out

This is what I mean by Sea of Sorrows 2.0

Inspired by RUIN from back in the day, [MERC] setup our very own quarantine zone against Maguma after negotiations broke down with [GOON]

But since we couldn’t afford 15 golems…. we did it the proud poor man’s way!

Special thanks to Jerk Jerk for being a good sport and kept bringing the people out to meet the rams head on! Fun times.

If only we had Europeans, then the oceanics can sleep earlier

Let’s have a meet and greet on Sunday whisper me for details

Enjoy

I would like to congratulate everyone who stuck it through the hard times. The day we have been waiting for has arrived.

It’s been 1 day since we saw the Americans in action. It looks like SoS is heading to the top. Overwhelmingly Strongest Oceanic presence with very very strong USA presence is a recipe for win.

Just bought the plane ticket, will post it on our website soon. Check for updates to see how my trip goes

BTW, we have no queues in WvW.

Please contact Jedahs or Westkit in game or our mumble.

I am the leader of one of the largest WvW guilds on Sea of Sorrows. We have over 50 Hong Kong Cantonese speaking members. Please, I urge you to join us.

Please visit blacklion.enjin.com and speak with us (we have a Cantonese room). We welcome all Hong Kong players.

lol send a fax. I’ll use all the methods in my power.

Also, great news is that I reckon over 500 WvW focused USA players are in the process of transferring to sea of sorrows now. I’m so exciting, all the hard work the WvWers in Sea of Sorrows was not in vain.

Are you from Hong Kong? Another Asian country?

Our guild has many Asians who speak different languages and we offer free mumble service to anyone who wants to join us. We are in the process of setting up a 1000 user free mumble server for WvW coordination on SoS.

Please, we welcome you to join us!

Anyone know of good European guilds and forums that I can post in?

In order to extend the WvW time presence of our guild and Sea of Sorrows, I have decided fly to Europe and spend 1 to 2 weeks every month for the next 3 months to try and recruit more European guilds onto our server.

I will be staying in the UK in order to match European play times so that we can continue to communicate and support the new European transfers during the turbulent times you endure during a transfer.

We will extend our full support and resources to help build up a few promising battalions to be placed on a defensive shift to bridge our downtime between Oceanic and American switch over.

In the short term, we understand that collecting a sizable European and American army to match our Oceanic presence is almost impossible. Our immediate short term goal is to develop a defense team, coupled heavily with [MERC] funded defensive siege weapons, starting in 1 Borderlands, with the medium term goal to maintain and carry over the favorable situation the Oceanics developed and carry it on for our American guilds to pickup for all 3 Borderlands.

In the past few weeks, we have already attracted a lot of capable and fairly sized American guilds to our server. However, our American comrades are always left with nothing by the time they log in while the enemies have upgraded their war assets to at least tier 2. This makes it very demoralizing for these guilds as they are always fighting against very tough odds as soon as they log in.

We also understand that we had previously attracted a group of players to leave their home servers, be displaced into a new environment, yet they do not have any chance for further growth and recruitment because. Coupled together with unreasonable odds in WvW, it is understandable that these American guilds soon become jaded and leave Sea of Sorrows for other servers.

So do not worry Sea of Sorrowians, the Black Lion Mercenary Corps [MERC] are going to the United Kingdom and we will bring back the European reinforcements we need or die trying!

Visit http://blacklion.enjin.com to keep updated on our excursion and progress.

Can someone help me find the original poster and ask him to add some cliche Rocky music to it?

Yup, we did try to team up on one. But given that it was all melee and the golem hitbox was so big, it didn’t really work out as intended.

Wish there was a version with some music

One of the happiest moments of WvW for me is to find strong, challenging and chivalrous opponents.

In this video, MERC from Sea of Sorrows (Green) and PiNK from Tarnished Coast (Blue) face off in a golem duel during our last moments in our weekly matchup.

Thanks to Commander Jadon [PiNK] for setting up this fight. We had a great time!

http://youtu.be/v0KXBWUW-eA

Catapulting through the door is simply a huge design flaw.

No, I’m not a programmer or computer wiz so I don’t know how hard it is to re-code or re-design this.

Simply, from a player’s point of view, it makes this game look like a B title given how such a nonsensical , yet game changing, flaw can be left there unaddressed for so long.

Hacking is done by a very small minority of players and is not a server problem. Only Anet has the ability to fix this and it should not be discussed in this thread.

P.S. welcome Americans.

Glad to hear this and I hope to see more Americans join our server.

Also, if you are an Oceanic player, please remember to LOG OFF completely from the game when you go to sleep. No one is sure how server population control works, but it could help stop our server being “full” all the time.

WvW badges are a horrible way to judge commander/general abilities.

Successful commanders need the following qualities:

1. Willingness to invest time and energy into learning the game, reading a lot, watching a lot of videos, gathering good troops/guildmates dedicated to doing the same.

2. Strategically reviewing the situation constantly, changing and influencing a massive group of players to adapt to those changes. I’m looking at the map more than anything.

3. Chrisma, communication skills and ability to use different tools for communication (VoIP, Waypoints, Whispering, Map Chat, Streaming)

4. Understanding the zerg. How they think, how they play, what they want and how you can “influence” them into doing what you want.

5. Taking initiative to lay out siege. Upgrade keeps. Because most people can’t be bothered, don’t have the money, or don’t know if its the correct thing to do (and I must say, must people who lay down siege do it at the wrong place/wrong time and its even more detrimental than not laying it down).

6. Patience and ability to teach new or inexperienced players how to play. WvW has very different rules and keys to success compare to other game modes. Killing players is generally the last of my worries as a commander, other players do that, I make sure they have the key elements prepared to do so.

7. Dipolimacy to communicate with different guilds on the field (generally, every commander/guild leader have egos, big or small, everyone thinks they’re boss and will ignore the big picture until someone can persuade them to do otherwise).

8. Remaining calm under stress, heavy fighting, flaming, trolling, generally the stress of people not following your instructions immediately because they’re playing a game for entertainment.

I have not stepped into PVE since level 80, all WvW for the past 25 days. I only have 300 badges. I am my server’s first commander, the leader of the first and still only hardcore WvW guild. If it were up to badges, I would still not be a commander. Meanwhile, glass cannon elementalists I know all have over 1000+ badges. They’re great at what they do, but that doesn’t mean they can lead.

None of these things requires badges, infact, as a commander, I practically never attack anything except strategically significant targets (cannons, siege weapons, etc.). I’m always typing, talking, map, typing, talking, map, typing, talking, map.

TheReign, you are from Team Legacy on Eredon Terrace, kudos to you but you are 0.001% of the population. If you were the benchmark, the entire game will have about 10 commanders throughout all servers (and they would all be on the top 6 servers). Not every server is so dedicated to WvW, and it is these servers that need a commander the most. To be honest, I’m sure ET/HOD/SBI/JQ major guilds would all do fine with or without commander icons on the screen.

At first I didn’t want to get involved in this thread, I am neutral on the ordeal of ET players coming over to SoS to recruit. It is a very viable strategy in war. War is not an ethical thing, and people doing anything to win is to be expected and this is why I love WvW so much. My guild, the Black Lion Mercenary Corps [MERC] was also built on a principle which many might find “unethical” (if you wish to know what, visit our website, we are quite open about it).

I would like to shed some light on the matter with some facts and observations.

Regarding the Trebuchets

First of all, I will admit that I am the one that built that trebuchet Archaos is holding. I paid for the blueprint, I placed it there and I rallied the people to get the supplies to build it. If you ask me, I think that spot was intentionally put there because there is a deliberate mini jumping puzzle to reach it was clearly a platform at the summit without any vistas at the top. The enemy was at our door step, where else are we supposed to build other than inside our base?

Secondly, it is not invulnerable. One single ET Thief was able to get up there and destroy our first treb. Props to that thief by the way, you got some mad skills. We learned our lesson and placed 5 players to guard that spot. Later on, a mini-ET zerg was able to take out those trebs. So they are definitely vulnerable.

Regarding RUIN helping SoS

Look at the first picture. It’s obvious that Archaos was firing the treb. So his argument about holding that treb so that other players could not “exploit it” is thrown right out the window. Unfortunately I was offline by the time Archaos took control of the treb, so I couldn’t relinquish him of control.

However, unlike what the OP of this thread is trying to say, he was not firing the treb at the Mendon’s Tower. He was firing to the North West side of the map. I don’t know what is at the north west side of the map but whatever it was it wasn’t helping SoS.

My personal stance on this is we should just let this thread slide into oblivion. Stop posting in it. Lock it. ET is winning the war and RUIN is just one cog in their war machine. SoS should stop wasting time really push back in a coordinated effort instead of giving up. Use this opportunity to learn how to push back when you are facing unprecedented adversity. SoS is not fifth on the WvW rankings because we are good, it’s because we’ve never faced a strong enemy until today.

It was good fun and I enjoyed looking at that sweet hard earned orb. Every time we push this hard, we have a lot of fun and learn a lot about the game and I think that’s what counts the most.

Special thanks to Dark Immunity & Oceanix for coming out to help.

Also thanks to IoJ for the support and understanding.

If you are in SoS and are serious about WvW, join the Black Lion Mercenary Corps [MERC], one of the largest WvW focused guild in SoS and home to the server’s first commander.

Jedahs
SoS Commander
Black Lion Mercenary Corps [MERC]

Great job IoJ. ET has been sieging Shad for almost 5 hours now.

They still dont have it…but we are losing ground…

Meanwhile IoJ takes 50% of the map. gogogo~

Isle of Janthir, we need reinforcements now at ET boarderlands. Please tell someone from your biggest guilds/commanders to help us. Only together can we take ET.