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Well, military style long lines of lion guard under some kind of coverage would give a lot of depth IMO.

TESO PvP is awesome though, TESO’s killer will be the 15$ per month fee and the lack of fast paced action in regular gameplay. Also locking off an entire race just for the collector edition buyers is a very stupid move.

But I expect at least a minor announcement regarding an epic upcoming storyline to rival the MMO competition. Marketing wise that would make sense, even if Wildstar and GW2 are both owned by NCSoft.

@CureForLiving, yap I was talking about her :P

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@ Aaron, and Magnus is supposed to be injured, shouldn’t he be in a (field) hospital? Unless they provided him with his own medic who’s permanently on the ship which would be selfish with all the casualties coming in.

Also, in GW2’s version of Eye of the North the ghost from the GW1 skill trainer says something along the lines ‘I have nothing to teach you, your powers are beyond those of…’. I’d get a screenshot but I’m currently uploading a video which makes GW2 unplayable due to the uploading taking all my bandwith.

Edit: Got it for you :P

Thank! Shame I missed that, I always get lost at CM. Just finished cutting AC, will upload it in a bit and then start on editing CM!
Will put up a link once finished uploading!

Edit #1: Meh, I though I had solved the audio problem but apparently things are still going wrong with it. I’ll upload it on YouTube tonight with background music instead of audio and will look at it again tomorrow, bleh!

Edit #2: Video is being uploaded, sound isn’t fixed yet. Those 40 minutes took almost every track I had in my (YouTube approved) library hehe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y5twA2WFrQ&feature=youtu.be

Hey guys!

I have a couple of questions, I’ve started with a project. If you visit the lore forums from time to time you might have seen the thread. It’s a project to document/archive dialogue from NPC’s all over Tyria (link is in signature). I have a few videos up already but I’m mostly still recording. Now, the editing software I currently use is a pain to work with, it’s not bad but I have to cut out a lot of footage and I’d like to have a few more options to let music/scenes fade in/fade out.

Also I’d like to make an intro and outro but I don’t know what I could use for this, photoshop perhaps but I’ve never really worked with that.

If you have any suggestions on what to use for me, I’d love them! Thanks in advance!

With kind regards,

Jelle.

TL;DR:

-Suggestions for editing software
-Suggestions for software to make an intro/outro with

A NPC in Gendarren Fields said that she is blind thanks to the gas(/miasma), Magnus accident might have had nothing to do with the Molten Berserker after all?

^Might this be because Caithe compares Scarlet (or Ceara back then) to herself? It can be ignorance and/or arrogance from Caithe, but maybe Caithe knows something (or someone) that made Ceara look insignificant.

Ahhh too bad! FlamingFoxx/Hjorje can one of you guys fill in then?

Forget what Eluveitie said!

>managed to scavenge 1800 gems
>ready for dungeons tomorrow

Lutinz.6915:

Things to note:

- I haven’t seen how Canach gets from his cage in the Vigil Keep to LA but he appears with Ellen Keil at the end of the Molten Beserker event at Fort Marriner to evaculate Magnus.

Note about the house with the force field. Isn’t that the house of the Priory agent from the Priory Personal story?

I have seen Canach 3 times, once in his cell with the door shut, once in his cell with the door open and once when they were about to evacuate.

And is it priory? I thought OoW but that might be one of the other houses. But yeah, it’s from one of the personal story missions.

It’s strange that when you encounter him outside Fort Marriner he doesn’t wear any eye patch at all.

Also:

Magnus: ‘(groan) My eyes, I can’t see.’
Ellen Kiel: ‘Everyone, get aboard the airship! We are leaving!’
Magnus: ‘Belay that order. Keep fighting. We aren’t losing the fort.
Ellen Kiel: Magnus, you’re hurt. And the fort is gone. Get aboard now!

Then they leave along with Canach, Siriam, Lawson and a bunch of other guys.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Jelle.4623:

-Magnus lost his left eye? (Molten Berserker event)

I’d have to re-read the novel, but didn’t he have an eyepatch in Edge of Destiny?

Jelle.4623:

-MA machines pointing towards the Breachmaker and one that is pointing towards the sky

Clarification: those machines are Sonic Periscopes – aka listening devices. So I think they’re put there for Scarlet to communicate with her troops. Though… why is one pointing to the sky?

Jelle.4623:

-New ‘caves’ opened up

Have yet to see these caves. Where at?

I remember you saying last night that Magnus had an eyepatch over his right eye in the novel so if he lost his left one now, that would mean he lost all of his eyesight.

That is my guess too, I can’t figure out why you would point them at the sky though. Unless of course there is something we can’t see.

Go and take a swim around the previous diving spot, with the goggles and stuff, I think they’re only there for mechanic reasons though (they have piles of rubble in there, for the Heirloom things)

Konig Des Todes.2086:

The “breach” that she’s “making” is the one the drill forms when going into the ground. Y’know, breaching the soil and all.

Or to quote your earlier statement: Scarlet is trying to drown Primordus and make him the ‘Elder Smoldering Dragon’ :P

And yeah, that is possible. I’m doing the siege of LA stuff on a Order of Whispers character. Must be order-bound dialogue, will see if I can get something interesting from OoW NPC’s

Is that ambient dialogue or dialogue that shows up just after the event?
Because when I talk to her she says no such thing

It’s lowered but not actively (would be a hard thing to maintain :P)

So we are trying to sum up a list with notable things that go on in LA right now:

-Coriolis Plaza is fortified (by Scarlets minions)
-Water level is lowering (noticable mostly around Grand Piazza and Farshore Ward)
-Canach escapes with Magnus and Kiel at the very last moment
-Magnus lost his left eye? (Molten Berserker event)
-Asura Gate to Rata Sum still active (Not for players to go through though)
-Minions summon Mini Probes Actually miasma containers
-MA machines pointing towards the Breachmaker and one that is pointing towards the sky (Sonic Periscopes AKA listening devices)
-The Molten Alliance machines are all around the Breachmaker, but mostly only the ones pointing towards the sky. The other sonic devices are only found at the Gunnery Range.
-Tengu shoot everyone who comes near their wall
-Lion’s Shadow Inn changed from Waypoint -> PoI
-New ‘caves’ opened up
-Ela Makkay confirms an intersection of ley lines underneath Lion’s Arch
- Ho-Ho-tron, now Heal-a- tron, is being hunted by the Seraph. He approaches Evon Gnashblade about some type of combat upgrade, but the upgrade sound purely defensive in nature.
- Evon has gotten conscripted into the Lionguard as a quartermaster thanks to Ellen Keil. He’s not to happy about it.
- One of said caves has a layer of water in them, perhaps related to the lowered water level caused by the drill.

Outside of LA:

Lornar’s Pass: Marionette corpse is now visible and accessible
There is a blueprint/drawing of the sword/dagger she uses in Scarlet’s lair

Cool! I’ll add you

Examples? Not in-game at the moment so can’t check

10AM might be too early for me but I should be able to make 11AM

I’d say that this is because humans don’t really have a comparable thing to the Dream, warbands or bookahs.

As far as my knowledge of English goes, that’s just another sentence you say when you’re in love. Nothing special really, especially because I think those are Valentine cards you can buy/print and send to your crush/loved one

Ah, great guys! I will add you all in-game!
It’s nice to have so many volunteers! Within probably 5 days I will have bought my server transfer. Seems like weekends are the days to go, I’m from the Netherlands, Europe, so not familiar with any NA timezones (or other continents for that matter). If you guys are willing to take a few seconds to look up your UTC time zone we can coordinate from there.

Well are you implying that Scarlet is tall enough? I can’t remember seeing any ladders in the instance :P

Hey guys,

Tonight Eluveitie, Aaron Ansari and myself wanted to do a run of Ascalonian Catacombs fore lore reaons. We want to record footage and transcribe dialogue to the wiki. This means that it will be a bit time-consuming so keep that in mind. The ultimate goal is to do this for all dungeons, starting with story mode and continue doing all explorable paths.

Unfortunately we were unable to achieve this for two reasons;

1: We were players short for a full party
2: Because I am on a EU server I was unable to join the instance

We want to reschedule the run for AC to next week, by then I will have bought a server transfer and it gives us more time to organize a full party.

If you want to run along, please respond in this topic!

PST time would be UTC -8 so 11 am

Chronological order is fine by me and yes both story and explorable but I don’t think we can manage that in one go. (well, I could but I can’t speak for the others)

Thanks Maethor!

Alright guys, Aaron and I made an appointment for this saturday to do a dungeon run, are you guys available around 12pm UTC -7 / 8pm UTC +1? Do you guys have any priorities on what dungeon you want to do first? For now it will be HotW.

I made a guild for easy coordination but I don’t know if you still have any guild spots left. Let me know and I’ll send you a invite! (no need to rep or anything but then I can use the Message of the Day to let you know when the next runs will be)

@Elysian You can mail them to the e-mailadress provided in the first post if you want
Then I’ll get them recorded and put them in a video!

As far as I know I have all my guest spots still open so I can join in on any dungeon runs (I read somewhere that most of the [Lore] guys are in Sanctum of Rall? Which is a NA server I believe, I live in Europe and play on Far Shiverpeaks, I don’t know if guesting works for oversea servers?)

Anyway, the sooner I join you guys the better I reckon.

True! Just crash a couple of ships on the shore and Lion’s Arch will be rebuild… :P

Edit: ^Charr+human=khajit

Yeah, fair enough. Meh, I’m really curious! Will be an interesting day…

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+Brazil There are plenty of other places in Tyria ~Stéphane?
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I wonder if these comments mean it will be a (semi-) permanent change to Lion’s Arch…

I PM’d Konig to ask if I could join you guys, I would love to dungeon runs where the group is focused on dialogue and lore and not on clearing it as fast as possible and get rewards.

I guess this is your answer.

I think it’s good to do this with multiple people! Not only to save time but also to get as much variety in dialogue as possible. As seen with my sylvari nightbloom dialogue changes with the choices you make. I made 2 new alts (asura and sylvari) especially for this purpose.

I haven’t really looked in to what other people have been doing, there might be someone having records of dungeon dialoge. It might be a good idea to get a in-game guild for people who are interested? This would help organizing and doing dungeon runs for example. I don’t know if Konig’s guild is interested? Maybe we/I can integrate?

Characters I plan on using for recording:

Level 80 Charr blood legion warrior who went with the vigil (PS completed)
Level 80 Sylvari nightbloom who went with Order of Whispers (PS not completed)
Level 35 Human noble class who (second or third arc of the personal story)
Level 5 Asura, college of Synergetics (not started with personal story)

I will create a norn so that I have 5 races for recording although both the Asura and Norn will take some time because of level issues.

Thanks for your time Aaron!

On my end it didn’t sound too loud but I guess that is a issue you can easily adjust with volume control? Anyway I’ll look into it. I’m currently looking for a more advanced editor to give me more customization options with sound effects

And yeah! I was quite pleased with the Cycle thing, I went back with my Asura to see what the NPC would say then and I think that if I would have spoken to the NPC the first time with my Asura I wouldn’t have bothered to put it in, so it was nice to experience that!

I’ve got a video with in-game sound, thing is I wasn’t aware that my mic was on so you can hear noise from outside which is disturbing in my own opinion. It’s a shame really because it was a recording of the Living Story part where you investigate stuff that Scarlet left with Marjory and Kasmeer.

Again thanks for taking the time to give feedback!

Hey guys! Videos are up! Now, these are my first test runs and don’t involve any fine editing (smooth audio transition, intro/outro, et cetera). This is partly because these are test runs and partly because I haven’t managed to find nice editing software.
There are no commentaries in the videos, I figured that if you would hear me speculating/theorycrafting on the background you wouldn’t be able to concentrate on the dialogue.

The first two videos are me walking around in an area, nothing special, they are primarily for me to try out the recording software. the third video is the recording of dialogue. What I did with the third was searching (for this video The Grove) for relevant dialogue and then recorded and put them together.

Points of feedback:

-Shakiness/camera movement
-Choice of music
-Coverage of subject
-Personal opinion

I will try to upload dialogue on a daily basis however I don’t know how time-consuming the job will be.

Feedback either here or in the comment section on YouTube, thanks in advance!

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8LeEbqvP9o0RV6G7pGrllnIL9bcNdQJR

PS. If anyone on the forums is willing to make a fitting banner and/or help me with making an outro please contact me at yourgamingarchivist@gmail.com!

From the wiki on Elder Dragons:

Trivia
Dragons were not always the main antagonists of Guild Wars 2. According to The Making of Guild Wars 2 book, original drafts for story included demons and angelic beings descending to the world to judge it.

What if they would return to this with the Living Story? Demons are in almost any fantasy capable of possessing.

Think about it this way; one of the reasons we were able to defeat Zhaitan was by cutting off his supply of new Risen.

If Elona was defended by Sunspears/humans instead of Palawa Joko with a huge undead army, Zhaitan might have been able to conquer it and in doing so he would have loads of fresh Risen troops and we wouldn’t have been able to do a thing about it.

Neither was I, just expressing a thought that crossed my mind a few days ago. At the other hand, is it really that bad? Joko has armies and huge ones at that too. Of course, people are being oppressed if there are indeed any alive, but he has been fighting Zhaitan in the Crystal Desert and I think he would be doing a better job defending Elona then the Sunspears would have done.

After all ‘you never know what would have happened’.

*we are extremely off topic

I never said anything about letting her walk around ;P.

Joko crossed my mind by the way, being that entity, but I don’t think necromancers have access to that kind of power even if they are as powerful and experienced as Joko. Then again, I don’t think anyone knows the full depths of his power and if bloodstones really are weakened as I’ve read in another topic it might be possible that he is extending his powers. Of course, it’s highly unlikely since Joko is in Elona and I’m almost certain that we won’t go there for the next couple of years.

Thanks! That is useful information. That is definitely good to know.

And I’m curious to see that project! If there is any need for it, anything I will record will be free to use for that project.

Thanks everyone, this topic has inspired me. It’s nice to see the progress of a vague idea in my head going to something more solid, something I can work with.

Well even though 99% of the playerbase hates her/dislikes how her story has been told; the only thing I can think of when it comes to killing Scarlet is that it would be such a waste. A waste of her genius. That’s partly why I mentioned that maybe even though Scarlet dies, Ceara will live on, cleansed from what ever entity possesed her. Her knowledge might be useful against the Elder Dragons and even if not, we don’t know what possesed her. A next story might be that the entity will strike against Tyria while we are/have been distracted by other things.

Another games strikes my mind while typing this, in Fable III about 50% of the game is about getting your tyrant brother off the throne, only after you have succeeded you learn that he had knowledge of an evil that was coming to invade Albion.

If you compare stories it is not all that different, we try to get Scarlet of her throne while she has been busy collecting manpower and technology.

Who knowsssss

/random theorycraft moment off

Thanks for your input! I will try to check in with Plagiarised and share thoughts.
I also recall a mention of you, Konig, that states that certain heart NPC’s have interesting dialogue before you complete them. I will look into that as well which probably means rolling a new alt.

I’ll have to play with balance between recording 100% and recording priorities. Capturing 100% of Tyria is almost impossible and a nightmare for one man to do I’d say, besides that another bad thing would be that if I would try to record 100% of a map I would end up with very long footage which will be another nightmare to cut and edit and it would be a nightmare for people who look for specific things.

My idea was to scan through maps, write down interesting things and later getting back to record them. For example: see heart NPC with interesting dialogue > write down > see event happening close by > write down > come back later > record dialogue, cut > do heart > record new dialogue > move on to complete event > cut

@Konig Des Todes, and what about your project? Won’t it overlap mine or will your means of documenting spoken dialogue not involve footage? If it does, it might be best for the both/all three (depending on Plagiarised) of us to stay in touch in order to prioritize things that might be affected.

@darkfiremew, I will read it later today! But from the quick scan I did you want the stuff to get implemented in-game and that is sadly a thing we can’t do ourselves. What might be a project for a later date is getting all the recordings, short stories/blog posts etc. on a collective website but then again, we have the wiki for that.

Anyway guys, I’ll start recording a few test runs tonight and play with editing. I’ll begin with Lion’s Arch because if that indeed will be destroyed it will haunt me for a very long time that I didn’t begin there. Once I’m done I’ll bump this topic with a youtube link, do you guys have the time to give feedback? It’s a new thing for me so we’ll have to see how everything works out.

Thanks in advance!

(Did I miss anything?)

^Another question would be, do the devs draw a line between Ceara and Scarlet? Meaning that maybe Scarlet will die but Ceara lives on? We’ll see.

EDIT #1: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxxUKaNnGnXwYfHOPiF_Urg

EDIT #2: Anyone who can (or knows someone who can) help me design a fitting banner/avatar and/or outro for me, please contact me at yourgamingarchivist@gmail.com. Thanks in advance!

Hey guys,

The following is not a lore question. This will be about the world of Tyria and on archiving/documenting/preserving it.

I don’t post much myself but I read almost everything you guys post.
The last few days I’ve seen multiple reactions on topics stating that they regret the missing of some NPC’s before their dialogues could get documented on the wiki. I was thinking on this and then the name of a guild sprang to mind: ‘The Archivists’ Sanctum’.

I am a sailor working on a inland vessel, meaning that I work shifts: 3 weeks of sailing followed by 3 weeks of free time. I have gameplay recording software and then I got the idea: why not record areas of the game. More specifically: NPC’s and their dialogues, buildings, other areas of importance.

I don’t mind spending a fair share of my free time on documenting Tyria, both the Tyria from Guild Wars 1 as from Guild Wars 2. It would be something I enjoy doing and I would feel good for contributing something. Another good thing about doing this would be that for people like myself, who can’t always enjoy the game on a dialy basis can use this as research or entertainment while being away from home.

So my questions to you;

Do you think this is a good way of documenting Tyria or do you think that it would be a waste of time, posting screenshots of dialogue and areas on the wiki is a better idea?

If you do think it would be a good idea to preserver Tyria; what would be popular requests. More importantly, in any of your own theorycrafting, do you think a particular area will be affected within a few weeks that needs preserving right now?

Also; what would be the best medium to put the recordings on? As far as I know the wiki doesn’t allow videos. Of course there is always YouTube but maybe there is a website that serves the purpose better.

After I get enough feedback on the idea I’ll post ideas about formats for the videos. This is a idea that starting living in my head, I’d like your opinions on it.

With kind regards,

your possible future archivist – Jelle.

In what area? Lion’s Arch? Kessex Hills?

Gaile Gray.6029:

Jelle.4623:

Thanks! Will do that, I tried looking for an answer here before bothering the support =) cheers!

That’s really nice of you, Jelle, and we appreciate it. Please do go ahead and contact Support for this.

Anytime! Thanks I will! Filling in my ticket right now!

And that’s a sad thing Ragnarok! Tons of work deleted, meh, bet you faceslapped yourself right there! I’ll try anyway though, as said by Lilith Ajit it’s not an economical item and exclusive by gem store purchase so I’ll see! Good luck with refarming your mats

And thanks everyone for their replies! Much appreciated!

Thanks! Will do that, I tried looking for an answer here before bothering the support =) cheers!

Hey guys! I’ve been stupid. I got the Mr Sparkles mini for spending 50 euro’s or something in December. I deleted the character where it was on, there is no way for me to retrieve it right? Or anything you can do?

Thanks in advance,

Jelle

Well, obviously the Scarlet story arc will end with us going to the Maguuma Wastes, we will find massive workplaces/factories and stuff. When we finally kill her at her true headquarters there and our demolitionists lay waste to all her stuff, we wake Mordremoth and the next story arc/dragon plot will begin.

what about these though