Guild Wars 2

/no………………………….

there was a funny moment today for me though. Pro set up a golem rampage through NSP BL. after taking hill we moved towards garrison. We stopped breifly at the crossroads and watched a group of 8 NSP run straight past us and keep going towards the temple.
It was like those 8 golems were invisible of something – i was like wtf how did they not see us.
That small oversight led to every keep and tower falling to those golems.

Funny times

Yeah we botched that at the last moment. Stormed through the outer ring, but i think the golems were a little eager to get at the inner door. They didnt give us time to take the cannons and oil before beginning the assualt.
What can i say, we are young and eager lol.
But when the AR reinforcments turned up – it was all over.

omnislakitten106:

Can’t wait to move up tiers, this matchup is just too lob sided..

Dont get your hopes up about the next tier not being lob sided

yay SM is DR red again
now to see how long we can hold it

wow, theres nothing in those scores – itll make for a great friday finish if the holiday season doesnt ruin it. haha, or should that be hohoho

Rob.7624:

Karg.2381:

Great battles against NSP in EB

This is a great matchup and finally a tier we are not just the Zerg server. Hopefully we are showing we have some tactics and not the one trick ponies were labelled.

Props to all

I would say you’re welcome.
But so far I’ve only seen one trick pony tactics.

You attack Northern SM with trebs.
We lose outer wall.
We beat you.
You run back to your keep and hide.
Your keep is stacked with siege.
We have to fall back.
And repeat cycle.

We’ve attacked it from every angle. Not enough people to cover it all.
Commanding in EB all day though.
Sorry if I’m slightly grumpy.

Attached image is me though.
If you see me, give me a wave.
(Spikey Guardian Commander with Vision of the Mists (pink glowing sword) who will rush head first into the enemy zerg)

Hey cmd Bird song,
i like fighting your guild, although i grind my teeth everytime we let you build that fire base on the hill over OL. We tried the mad rush counter on reset which failed. We managed to counter treb today though. Everytime a treb went down the other side threw up another. One of your treb firers is a great shot though, bang on tgt against our counter trebs all the time.
ill make a special effort to look for you in future, if you ever get an arrow in the eye – thatll be me

but then we wouldnt be on devona?

Draygo.9473:

I dont consider it good when one server has 100% of the map.

I have a sad instead.

I hope you guys can move out of tier 8 – honestly. You know your 2 big for it now. Were having a blast in our current match up. But if tier 7 stays as close as it looks – im not sure youll get the points to do it.
Which also makes me sad for you peeps.

OMG Kain you stealing our Zerg thunder – Joke.

Great battles against NSP in EB

This is a great matchup and finally a tier we are not just the Zerg server. Hopefully we are showing we have some tactics and not the one trick ponies were labelled.

Props to all

The commander system is okay as is. I think peeps quickly decide for themselves who to follow and who to avoid.
Each commander has their own character which shows in their tactics. If you have empathy with those tactics then follow that commander. If not their is usually another commander around.
One has an obssesion with golem rushes, one is obsessed with SM, some defend, some attack.
Their are certain commanders that i will instantly follow if i see their pip on the map, a minority i try to avoid like the plague because you can be certain of daft wipes and eventually that commander blaming the zerglings following them followed by rage quit.

SniffyCube.6107:

just a thought, but since we’re on the subject of commander why hasn’t anet implemented some sort of filter on who you can see on the map ? like only seeing the commander whose squad you are in

or, another approach could be that every X amount of time, there is a vote and the top X amount of players with commander who get voted get to display it on the map

1. the most popular commanders (and one’s who have many guildies in that battleground) get to command
2. allows the most qualified people command and hopefully takes down the incompetent / rude commanders

Just bouncing ideas

i heard that garrison fight was exciting – but i missed it by an hour. Sob sob.
I can understand why NSP would move on – why stay and fight that battle when you are either needed else where or an easier target presents itself. Sound like good tactics to me.
Take the points and force the other servers to react to your moves. +they get to reset the other servers upgrades.
Had fun in ARbl instead defending bay from AR and then NSP rock up to get in on the action

Bumpity bump bump

Glad you guys are in a more balanced match, looking at the scores it seems like its very even.
Hopefully the tiers are sorting themselves into more competative fights (for a while at least)
Good luck to you all

Nuzt.7894:

ok wtf, DR population is rediculous. So NSP I say yourselves and us AR take it to DR in full force and worry about each other next week.

I do not speak for all of AR but I’m sure theres many that would agree.

Arrr come on, you gonna beat up the little guys. Were just tier8 noobs, you should be gentle and nuture us. Were fun and cuddly.

Catisa.6507:

congratulations on yet another guild transfer into DR … just what you need, more numbers.

Who transferred in? i just see lots of little guilds. Certainly nothing to rival the size of OS on NSP.
And might i add – learnt something new from OS already in EB. The fire base on the hill overlooking Anz and our keep. Nice work.

its going to be an exhausting but exciting week if this carries on. Will be interesting to see the coverage of the servers.

Good times so far.
Good luck to NSP and AR.
Have fun all

I dont know what the future is for tier7. But Kain are also very aggressive and have numbers. they are going to go on a winning streak and tear up tier8, especially now FC have lost NP guild. Once kain hit tier7 my prediction is another week like this one HoD or SF.
Which is not good for all sides.
Maybe balanced will be restored after the xmas period

This week ive noticed a lot more no-guild players turning out. i guess either random transfers or PVEr’s coming to look around. Certainly we have a few questions in chat from players new to WvW. i guess ive seen a few very small new guild tags. No mid or large guilds have transfered in that ive seen.
If anything as the week has gone on weve seen a decrease in people turning out to WvW.

HoD and SF put out a strong showing on reset night and it was a great 3 way fist fight, my view is that we had the same sized zergs. So they do have similar numbers. Maybe they are more PVE focused now?
Reset i was all excited to be a tier up and having some epic battles, woke up the next day and logged in to find DR running away = confusion/surprise, monday onwards = Bored.
Maybe everyone went to BP

i never done this, but i also dont see the issue with it. Its not game breaking – does it matter who places the siege item? Is it not similar to sending a commander money to buy siege with.

Valenna Tiefling.5806:

NotOneToRidicule.2340:

Funny thing happened this evening…in HoD BL, two breakout events occurred simultaneously against us. Is this normal? Reading the release notes, I thought there would only be one at a time.

Please tell me you aren’t actually complaining about this? I mean, the style of play and ridiculous self aggrandizing in this thread this week has left a bad taste in the mouth of a lot on HoD. But this? That HoD used the breakout NPC, to take two towers… on one map… at the same time… Really? I suppose you’d have preferred us to go all to one tower, fight you there, and then go all to the second tower, and fight you there.

(Honestly DR… It doesn’t help when you have 2 or 3 people /laughing at very tower you take either.)

Hi, I dont think they were complaining about the breakout, i like the feature and enjoy the challenge of trying to take the commander out before he helps claim the tower. I think it was a simple question as we havent been able to use this feature yet (and thats not intended to be sarcastic).
Im sorry if you have the impression from the forum and i think a minority who chest beat and laugh over kills. Some are overly prideful and maybe excited to be on the rise, others are bandwagoners that will evaporate when the going gets tough. I can’t really comment on any other server but i guess alot of them will have this mix of people. Some will laugh, some will bow, the majority will do neither.
Im sure we will get our due beating at some point, i don’t think alot of us care – i just want a good slug fest.
Props to you guys in HoD and SF who keep turning out despite the odds, the same as FC and Kain. I can only hope that when/if the boot is on the other foot we have the same loyalty. but there again if people have shelled out their money for a game – i guess they should be allowed to stay with a declining server or hop to a rising one, if that is what they want to do. i cetainly dont want this same matchup next week, its no fun at all winning by such a margin and no fun getting stomped, the exciting and fun matches are the close run ones.
We have alot of little guilds and several mid size ones. I fear the day we get a big guild transfer as they seem to be the server killers, usually when they get bored for x reason and transfer off.

Anyway – please dont take stuff so personal, its just a game and for want of picking a server name we like – we could have been on the same side.
Hope you have fun next week.

Detharos.3157:

Congratulations to DR on its advancement and likely continued future advancement. As a Ferg player I admit there were some real frustrating times dealing with you folks but yet in the end without you here things just don’t quite feel the same, for better or worse. I’m sure DR will go through its trials, as will all servers in all tiers. I’d like to think they have what it takes to go far though and I root for them to continue advancing in the hopes that both FC and Kain might be vindicated in the eyes of those witnessing its advancement; for having held ground as well as they did and for as long as they did against a server of such force.

Regarding drama; as having played various MMOs with similar PvP functions I can calmly say it is not only an inevitability but that it is intensified beyond normal levels in a PvP structure such as WvWvW. From as a single player dying to 5 people ganks to conquering 5 people ganks, to losing highly upgraded keeps and towers that you practically went through hell to keep to a mere 3-10 person unnoticed time-zone attack to doing the very same thing to other server’s keeps and towers. From carelessly letting yourself think its a “Single Server vs Single Server” and investing heavily as such only for the true WvWvW picture to come to light when your forces end up on the unfavorable or favorable side of a war with multiple fronts. To sometimes successful “bro-fist” filled guild alliances or even cross-server alliances to backstabbing and betrayals flipping your entire BLs or EB color when you least expect it.

These situations and realities that all who participate seriously in WvWvW are likely to experience at some point (at least some if not all) are like a cooking pot for intense emotions. As server pride rises when an up and coming under dog accomplishes the unexpected, or a former tyrant that fell into a trash can when many guilds transferred servers yet suddenly breaks out of its chains to rise again… and many other situations you could all name. The emotions that result are bound to light the occasional forum thread aflame with some harsh words and feelings.

Yet I’d like to think that throughout all the highs and lows witnessed within whatever tiers, we all come to respect some names, be they people, guilds servers or what not on this field of war that is WvWvW. And the occasional good and constructive forum posts that result surely outweigh a hundred posts of trolling or raw unrestrained negative emotions given text form. So that I say kudos to all who have done such on all sides.

These server wars are like a furnace, and we the players are the metal. We are constantly being forged through various situations into something different. I can say that despite feeling I have a long way to go, as a ranger I improved leaps and bounds battling against DR in various locations for the past month however long its been since I got into WvWvW. For that I’m grateful and as far as I’m concerned DR/Kain/Ferg is a chapter in my WvWvW book that I will always remember.

Wouldn’t it be amazing if one day, somehow in a higher tier with an even further improved/numbered player base these three once again met in combat and lit a tier aflame?

You dear Sir have my respect for one of the best post’s i’ve read on these forums. You are a credit to Ferg. I was becoming very jaded with all the rubbish spouted on here, but you’ve restored my faith.
Good luck to you and have fun.

Be careful Kain, if you start winning youll be the next ‘zerg’ server. Funny how the world turns.

Glad to see you back in the fight though. Miss the rivalry against you guys.

Hey Adult, Nice to see our fellow tier members posting.
Your right we will eventually run into either overwhelming numbers and/or more tactical servers. I thought that lesson may come when we moved to this tier.
We have been able to field 2 large groups of about 15-20 in SF BL, i havent spent so much time in HoD.

A few weeks of kain or ferg winning their tier and lets watch that thread turn into – OMG x server only wins because of numbers. Who ever is on top for a period of time becomes the zerg server because that the go to reason for the other 2 losing and i would imagine they likely do have a greater WvW presence.
If SF and HoD have all gone to the monthly event thats their fault. Let me guess Devona has no-one doing the event – don’t kid yourself.
If you wanna 1vserver great you paid for the game – go do it, just save your QQing if others want to group up and fight together in this MMO. Ferg and Kain always said they didnt care about winning – but boy do they complain about DR winning. Ive seen numerous posts by DR trying to big up ferg and Kain, its a rare occasion that they can swallow their pride and return any complement.
Anyways i imagine the usual whinners will be back to post how great at smashing a server single handed they are and chucking out challenges like smarties. GL DR dont care.

Have fun play the game YOU paid for the way YOU want and let others do the same.

Jazenn.7526:

At the moment Kain is on top, something I like to see. Everyone on Kain is doing their part it seems, we had good coordination in KBL last night between several guilds. Thanks to Chaster and SoS for wrecking EB!

Now that devona is gone the matchup seems better between us and fergs, not sure about ET. Speaking of devonas, they are SMASHING tier 7 right now. They will likely rise until they meet their numbers. What does this say about us and fergs? We got pretty close to beating them at least once. This was last night:

As Noobler says, DR Ferg and Kain arent bottom tier servers. Its just the way the rating system is. We were all so evenly matched (due to differing strengths on each server – be it more quantity, quality or a mix of both) that no one could get the numbers to push far enough ahead to breakout of the tier.
I feel sorry for ET there in for a rough ride for a long time.
Based on our weekend start ferg and Kain would have little to worry about in tier7. That of course may change over the course of the week – but DR tend to get stronger as the week progresses.

Vv W.7821:

You DR guys haven’t seen anything yet, pushing HoD into a corner just gets us riled up!

Were just out of tier 8, dont worry we can take a smacking. We wanna fight not pvdoor.

Its not what i expected, it feels like something is missing. I was at least expecting to be on the other side of a stomping. During reset HoD and SF had numbers at least equal to ours and it looked like it was going to be a bruising battle through the week.

on a side note, i think the breakout events are cool, it gives some momentum to servers to get back in the fight.

Thanks for the fun and facepalm moments ive had during this ongoing matchup. I have a great deal of respect for all you guys and gals on ferg and kain. I moved from a mid teir EU server to DR when they were on the bottom, think it was the same week pro turned up.
It was a refreshing change and ive loved the spirit of this tier.

Good game peeps, much love and be well. Give ET a warm welcome haha

Berkut.2837:

Interesting analysis Sumwun. I think that, somewhat, all servers have this issue on occasion. In the case of Devona’s Rest, you might not be seeing the development of more coordinated and tactical gameplay because there isn’t a perceived necessity to improve. What your currently doing is, for the most part, working. Until something comes and effectively forces Devona to improve, there will likely be little motivation to do so.

Maybe you will see some of the things you want to see occur if Devona’s Rest has a harder time in T7? Only one way to find out.

Note that what I said above isn’t necessarily true, it is just a potential thought that I have rambled :P.

I think your spot on with that, we are not being forced to improve and are i guess comfortable doing what we currently do. By enlarge it seems to work, but it is a grind. If we move up then we will have to adapt, im pretty sure we will get a harsh lesson and pingpong between tier 7 and 8 for a while. How adaptable we are will decide if we can leave tier 8 permanently.
Beating on Kain seems to be in our DNA. I was a little embarressed today to see us camping the kain EB spawn with trebs, carts, ballistas whilst Ferg ran amok in our own BL. The people we had there in that spawn seige could have reversed the ferg attack alot sooner.
As i think was in last weeks thread. Its a shame we cant merge to one server cus i think all 3 have strengths that the other servers are missing. Together we would be a worthy foe of the higher tiers.