Guild Wars 2

You do realize that this means with a good party and voice communication it will still take 65 hours to get the set not including the weapon and those of us needing dual weps it will take 95 hours. Plus with random groups the dungeon is basically impossible as said by others. 95 hours of the same dungeon to get 1 of the 8 sets is stupid and no offense but if your don’t agree your stupid cause that is a grind fest which is what the designers said they don’t like so basically they don’t like their own game plus the fact that they could just make the tokens all the same and people that want to work hard to get stuff can still put in hundreds of hours for the legendary weps.

they want the dungeons to all be the same difficulty which makes sense. but i personally think it takes way to long to make a dungeon set. but what makes no sense is they are saying they dont want this to be a grind fest but this last update did the opposite. all the dungeons accept cof take an insane amount of time to get the gear and now they made cof just as hard. plus they made it so you get less stuff for doing it multiple times?!?! in what universe does that make sense? lets look at this like a math problem

they want less grind so they make the dungeon harder + give less return from dungeon = even more grind! this is so dumb!! as a pure pve player that actually has a life and started at the early start i only have 170 carvings from cof and that was before they made it insanely hard. im actually a littlekitten off i paid for this game thinking that it wouldnt be a grind fest and it turns out to be worse then that because atleast normal grind fests allow you to change where your grinding! in this game i have to grind the same 4 dungeones paths for something like 25 hours of gameplay. in my opinion all the dungeons should be like cof. as it was before if you wanted to play for like 10 hours you could get 1 dungeon set and since there are 8 dungeons to get all the sets, its 80 hours of end game play plus legendary weps for those who are willing to put in insane hours of play. this way it caters to everyone. personally with school, work, and a life 80 hours of play will last me a long time. now its going to take me like 2 years just to get all the sets considering the arah set takes like 80 hours by itself. Before the cool sets were within my reach now its basically impossible. I was having so much fun playing this game and I was even playing an ele which is easily the most QQed about class but now its just pointless.

In conclusion before the update my mindset was if I grind on this dungeon I can get a set after the update my mindset is dungeon sets are pointless might as well go for clearing the map. As it was before I tried the other dungeons and they took so long that the sets were out of my reach and now cof has joined that group congratz sellers on the trade system you now have a new customer. By the way this is not QQ im not sad this is more like rage because I feel like my money is wasted and I can already say now I will not be buying an expansion if it is just a new set of grind dungeons.

There are two solutions to this in my opinion

1. Make all the dungeons sets lvl 80 and them make them harder based on the dungeon level. This way people that don’t have tons of time to play can still get cool armor and people that do want to put in the time can still show it with the harder dungeon armer
2. Make all the dungeons share tokens so I can at least not get hella bored running the same dungeon.

makes sense and im looking forward to hearing the results. i will post it for you eventually but as of right now i really want to work out all the kinks before i have it evaluated.

SAI Peregrinus.8410:

Incisorr, I’m saying that the people who keep saying “Stance dance and you’ll suddenly gain tons of damage!” are wrong. “Stance dance and you’ll gain some utility.” is correct. I’ve never said anything about that, and as you point out chill can be quite important to actually get your spells to hit. I’m simply attempting to provide some data to the “Ele is UP vs Ele is fine” debate, not to tell anyone that they’re noob/can’t play/shouldn’t stancedance/should stancedance/etc.

An easy example: You can do nice damage as a pure earth condition damage S/D ele. You have a good slow to keep them in your range, good toughness, and health from Carrion gear. You’ll still swap to water when you need to heal/get more slows. But that’s a case of utility being needed, and as per the thread title this is “when utility is not needed.”

but your still leaving out combo fields. an example would be making a fire field and comboing with a blast finisher this will give you 3 stacks of might thus increasing your damage. so by changing skills you do actually gain dps.

i though it was funny and half true. if your a noob ele do this haha

incisorr.9502:

yeah theory warriors at its finest, you know in pvp you actually get hit and you actually have to move, and im not sure who said stance dance should boost your dps ?

check a pvp scenario (assuming you play ele staff, otherwise go learn to play before posting)
you cast your fire stuff (obviously) and see 5 kids standing where ur meteors are falling, naturally you change to water so you can slow them and throw and ice spike while your’e at it. Then bounce towards lightning to put static field and buff yourself while youre at it, in case you need to run, since the attunement will have recharge after this. And then go to earth to do shockwave followed by well placed cripple while your eruption is channeling. Also you’re ready to use a magnetic wave thing the one that repels projectiles which is the best skill in the game tbh.
Sure you can sit on fire attunement and spam fireballs and lava fonts but they wont hit anyone unless you actually slow them with your other attunements, or you’ll die cuz u wont have speed/reflection buffs

what killer is saying is similar to the build im using since first beta on ELE and it works great. You die in 2 sec, if you let them get you. IF they don’t get you then theyre in for a bad ride

Well the way I have it my auras give my 33% protection and I have earth armor as one of my skills and I have the arcane shield that comes on at 25% hp so i don’t die quite that fast and I also run d/d for pve. Haven’t gone that far into pvp to care enough to change so im usually d/d accept in wvw I usually roam with d/d and use staff in big fights. By the way staff ele is not the only viable weapon choice for eles.

In that case I apologize I misunderstood the intent of this test. I thought you were just trying to show that 1 element is better and it was giving me flashbacks of having to revive eles ridiculous amounts of times in dungeons that sat on 1 element and assumed they were out damaging me cause I wasn’t dying lol. as for my build im still ironing it out. It’s a variation of the normal ele boon build but I went 10/10/10/10/30 instead of 20/10/10/10/20. So far its works better than I could have imagined the only issue im having is holding my might stacks at 25, as of now I can reach it relatively easy but without other group members helping replenish my stacks it tends to fall and stay between 13-18. My plan is to test out different runes with might duration. Currently im using one that gives 20% and also gives me 50% magic find but im debating about going with three groups of 2 runes to get 60% might duration total because the magic find doesn’t seem to help at that low of a percentage and my survivability seems good so the only thing I really want is more damage and more crit. But as of right now i’m running with random stats on my armor so once I get the power precision toughness armor and the 981 max damage power precision crit damage daggers( replacing my 808 max and 869 max ones) I should have no problem out damaging other classes and staying alive.

By the way with my build I can get up to 3.6k damage easy with 44% crit 15k hp and 2100 armor and a 33% damage reduction most of the time, not having a problem surviving or keeping up with other classes damage. Yes our class is harder to play but stop using that as a crutch and start trying to find ways to level the playing field. The way I see it you have two choices 1. Sit on 1 element and be out damaged by just about all other classes and have less survivability 2.put in the extra work to be one of the few pro eles in the game right now, I chose the ladder and im having a great time proving my dungeon parties and pvp groups wrong.

You simplified this way to much. There are way more things you need to take into account when calculating, the actual dps all depend on the build. all you did was prove that before you have traits unlocked you might as well stay on one element. my personal build is all about boons and to max my damage i need to combo with my own attacks and with my build i can boost my damage up almost 1k. but no matter what the build you have 70 trait points meaning that its not going to all be in one element causing switching to give certain bonuses, also the fact that each element is made for different situations. Its eles like you that stick with 1 element that are making us all look bad. This class is not made to sit on one element and any elementalist doing so is a subpar player.

Power: 1760
Precision: 1289
Toughness: 1276
Vitality: 1272
Attack: 2598
Crit Chance: 22
Crit Dmg: 31
Armor: 2093
Health: 14365
Magic find: 50%

im also running a boon build so while fighting i usually have
33% damage reduction
42% crit
3.3k-3.6k attack
also regen and vigor
really need new weps though got one 808 max attack and one 869 max
so could be higher if it got better ones just to lazy and i kill pretty fast already

after all these updates alot of the guides are outdated are there any new guides out?

as an up and coming worrior i was just wondering how viable this build is for pve cause that is my main focus?

Hello everyone, while I appreciate all of your responses for me to really get the most out of my play time I really need a guild in my server which is fort aspenwood. If we are on different servers I can’t wvw with anyone and as of right now I don’t believe ghosting is working correctly so I can’t do normal pve all I could do is dungeons. So that being said are there any guilds fitting this description that are on my server?

Pinkerton.5643:

Anlyon.8375:

PvE

• Gather 5 mobs -> Glyph of Storms is Earth -> Churning Earth -> any Burning skill -> /dance -> collect loot

WvW

• Equip Staff -> Glyph of Storms in Earth -> Eruption -> Flame Burst -> Collect loot

PvP

• Play lots and learn what to dodge, and what to do when -> Get a decent build -> ??? -> Equip awesome looking Scepter/Dagger.

I think we have a little work to be done, but all in all, we’re in a good spot, and i’ve been playing since BWE #1 and watching the ele since 2009.

Swap that scepter/dagger for d/d and I’ll be your friend =)
I’m glad I’m not the only one who’s figured this out.

You haven’t done dungeon have you…

I love this class but come on we are a little underpowered. With my boon build I can run with 25 might stacked and I still don’t hit as high as a ranger with 2 buttons. I watched a video of a ranger and all they did was run in circles with a rifle on click the first skill button for 600 damage a hit then click another skill which fired multiple shots for almost 3k a piece… and that was on arah explorable. For them to get that kind of damage and have 24k hp and medium armor while I sit there with 15khp and my light armor trying to survive while switching 4 elements and balancing all like 7 of my boons and still hitting less than that just seems a little unbalanced. Luckily I don’t care cause I’m having fun. Only posted on here cause I didn’t like how you both oversimplified a very challenging character. And if your truly only doing that in dungeons too you’re not even close to holding up your portion of the dps.

Just wanted to say this dungeon is insanely hard. Which for me is great I love a challenge but how about a little more reward for my time. To get the full arah dungeon set and the 2 daggers I need 1980 shards and last night I played for maybe 6 hours trying to run it with 2 different groups. Ended up with 14 shards and both got stuck at the same boss the giganticus lupicus which 1 hit us all. now don’t get me wrong I like that there is a boss that is that hard to beat but I would like a bit more reward along the way considering champion mobs only dropped whites for everyone and not a single one of us got anything better than green even with magic find gear and food. So let’s see here 6 hours for 14 shards means 848 hours of game play or 35 days. Considering they said the point of the game was for aesthetics at end is this their idea of giving us lots of end game content? Making us run the same dungeon for that long to get 1 set then you try to get the other sets. Just think it should be a little easier to get shards. But leave the dungeon the same I like how hard it is just want more reward for my time.

Since most classes can switch weapons in combat why not allow them to also switch trait builds and armor sets. for example if you’re a warrior and had dual swords and a longbow those are very different weapons and can require different things so why not make it so when you switch weapons your trait build is also switched and so does your armor set. Of course you would have the option to turn these things off. But I for one would really like the ability to have a back up trait build that I can switch while in a dungeon and if it can be linked to the switching of weapons I think that would be extremely cool.

im a lvl 80 elementalist and i find my guild doesnt group up much which isnt fun. i want a guild that does dungeons and wvw alot and actually works together. my name is avatar raiden and im in fort aspenwood

Im getting bored of my guild cause we dont team up very often. im in fort aspenwood for those interested and im a lvl 80 elementalist. im looking for a guild that has enough people that something is always going on. im not a big fan of the normal pvp but i like wvw and all pve and dungeons.

I was just wondering if anyone else is going for the arah armor set and if so how long is it taking you? I ask this because I’m an ele and the arah set is the only one that gives power precision toughness and I feel like the toughness will help me a lot. but I have only run 1 dungeon on explorable and it only gave 20 carvings so since the set will take 1980 with the weapons it seems like with the length of the arah dungeon it will take an insane amount of time. I have only run it on story mode but unless the exploration mode gives more carvings than the other dungeons it seems like it will take a ridiculous amount of time.

Personally I see this as them caring more about making the game better than making money and I appreciate it. and they said they aren’t selling any more copies of the game until they get more servers up and running. Relax this is the start of week three of the game its bound to have so bumps but im glad they are fixing the game before worrying about how much more money they can make.

Artorous.8573:

The only thing I think Ele’s need help with is water combat. I don’t have any real damaging abilities, which means fights take way to long, and few CC abilities. Sure, the few CC’s I had were decent when when I was level lower level but now it doesn’t seem like I come across many fights where less than 5 mobs agro all at once. Top that off with getting “Immune” message until I get to a certain angle while they continue to pound on me.

On the plus side I do love how the Earth Attunement plays with Scepter/Dagger. Churning Earth on a large pack then just watch the bleeds tick away. I have the power/precision/condition armor along with the power/condition/vitality jewelery. Sitting at 45% crit chance and am 10/10/30/0/0 spec. With the 30% chance to burn on crit, 20% damage below 25% hp, 5% damage to bleeding targets, 20% bleed duration, and 20% shorter cd for earth.

I have found that in water combat you need to focus hard on control and my favorite are ( don’t remember the name ill just say what they do) the lightning cage that stuns the bubble that takes them up and the rocks that pull them down, also the sand that blinds them. so while on land I find my main attacking elements to be fire earth and air. I have found in water my main is water and fire with earth and air being more control. In water you have the ice ball that you click once to shoot and once to explode and that’s good damage, the ice wall is decent as well and one that I found to be insanely good is the heal skill on the number 5 slot. It heals at the end but while your spinning it hits targets for great damage so just line up and use that. So for me I usually use air or earth to control and use fire and water to attack. Hope this helped ?

Anlyon.8375:

JemL.3501:

elementalist is weak, you are in denial and being delusional if you think the opposite or just want to look pro typing something like:

i beat everyone in spvp
i beat every explorer mode dungeon
i pwn 20 people at time in wvw

‘’like if nobody has done that’’

Well thank goodness we’ve got someone like you telling us how it is.

Oooooh wait, you just whine and moan and call other people delusional without offering any real feedback, without giving any facts or numbers or anything other than “I am weak”.

Your opinion is noted and ignored.

My opinion is that its fine and you simply need to play a bit more to learn the ins and out of the class.

You guys all need to check the forums more. I’m an ele and personally I have no problem with it but there is a new thread on here at least once a day about how under powered eles are. No I have not played the other classes and I’m doing just fine playing on mine but when there is that much complaining about 1 class there is usually a problem. When a new game comes out there will always be complaining about class balancing but this is getting more than just the normal amount considering all classes have had a few threads about not being able to play them but it’s only been like 2 threads total while this class has too many to count.

I’m not saying I agree I have fun on my ele so I really don’t care if they change it but I am getting tired of people posting with their problems with their class and others coming just saying they suck. Why not try offering them some new build options or try to help them with their play style. This is players helping players not player putting down players. Try and help if you’re going to post if not leave.

Op I think if you really want to play your ele you should try some new builds or put a little more into the defensive trait line. When I hadn’t gotten the hang of surviving yet I ran with a build that was 10,10,10,10,30 that gave me a little damage from fire and crit from air while giving me def from earth and the earth trait slot I used earth armor that comes up at 50% so better survival then 10 water for more hp and 30 arcane to be able to switch elements faster. Also one of the arcane skills is a shield at 25% so now you have two shields. Top that off with earth shield and arcane shield on your skill bar and you have 4 shields. Then gear with power vit accessories and power precision toughness armor. Do all that and you get decent dmg around 2.6k and around 2.1k armor and 15k hp so not bad dmg and decent survival.

Ronin Orca.4132:

Why? So people would become able to “buy” lvl 80 characters with 100% map exploration, …

Or because you’re playing with someone else on 1 account?

I don’t like this idea, and I see absolutely no reason why they should ever implement it…

(but maybe that’s just my blind opinion, feel free to enlighten me about the pro’s of such a feature because all I see are con’s)

Agreed 10000000% no offense op maybe im missing something but that sounds like a horrible idea. I don’t really want the possibility of someone hacking my account and literally stealing my character haha.

Tombstonex.7824:

I’m on Blackgate in the zones they are very few people. Trying get map discovery completed. But almost impossible on this server since no one around every elite and champion spawn on every skill point challenge. And if you do get lucky ending up killing them they immediately respawn. The intensively of mobs is pack across the map. Which I understand the that suppose to feel like a war but come high aggro ratios from NPC Seige weapons to events charging every where. Without full groups no one getting anywhere who wants to finish their story to even try to get to next area.

I personally didn’t have this problem for two reasons 1. I’m in a highly populated world 2. I have a guild that can fight with me. So my suggestions are.

1. Wait for the populations to balance out and more people will be on you server
2. Find a guild or form a group with people that will be willing to joining you on your quest to complete the maps
3. Don’t complete the maps all the way and come back when your higher level.
4. Change servers because the server transfers are still free.

But being in a situation like this is no fun and its taking away from your experience so I suggest take action now to solve this or you might end up hating the game because of bad experiences.

Ronin Orca.4132:

I agree with the OP.

Since it takes a significant amount of dungeon runs to get a full set of dungeon armor, completing it with the same character can turn into a bit of a grind (even though you can switch weapons, traits, and the dungeon mode).

It would be cool to see the tokens account-bound instead of soulbound. I feel like it shouldnt matter if I complete it ten times on my warrior, ele, necro and ranger or just fourty times with my guardian. It still is the same account/person who does these runs.

All achievements are account-bound, so why not make tokens account bound too? I like the fact that tokens cant be bought very much, but see no reason why people should be punished for playing different characters…

i agree completely. by the way these tokens are they for explorable only? also do you have to do 80 dungeons cause while you may bet a little bored of the charactor cant you cycle through the dungeons to keep you interested?

its all preference races give you no benefits when it comes to profession selection. personally i just picked the ones i thought went best with my profession. for example my 5 charactors are
human elementalist
charr worrier
charr engineer
human mesmer
norm guardian

Slim Calhoun.9052:

ok, so my cousin bought this game and told me he’s still new and gettin used to it but he thinks its awesome..so tonight i went to gamestop and purchased it..he told me there’s an alchemist subclass that does rather nice damage and dps numbers stack..which main profession would i want to choose to best suit alchemist if i were to choose that subclass?

I would guess that he was talking about the engineer but I can’t give you specifics cause I haven’t played the class. Before you start so you don’t feel like you wasted your time you can check out this site http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Main_Page it can give you all the info you need about the game and you can learn about all the classes before you play them. I looked at this before I started and I picked elementalist, haven’t looked back and enjoyed every minute of playing so far.

Hello everyone. Currently I am max level but I still haven’t gotten around to trying all the dungeons. So far I have tried the 30, 40, 50, and arah on normal but none on explorable. I know this is a very opinionated question but I’m just curious to see if the majority of the community prefers any dungeon over the others.

fleeZy.5270:

Guesting has not been activated yet.

this is correct luckily free server changes are still available so if you want to play with him change servers quick not sure how much longer they will be free and its possible there will be a gap between the ghosting becoming available and the purchase requirement on server changes.