Super fun fights in EBG tonight think there were plenty of bags for all servers and I bet even anet made a profit on all the arrow cart blueprints that were used lol.
Far as I’m concerned EU wise BG and SoR have the same coverage. It’s just that SoR’s EU seems more organized. I’ll give you that JQ has the strongest SEA of the 3 but we need a connector. BG currently has the best oceanic and 2nd best SEA.
JQ has best SEA > no connector either side oceanic or EU
BG has best OCEANIC > 2nd best SEA > equal EU to SoR
SoR has Equal EU to BG > best NA
Oddly, from the coverage it seems that BG honestly has the best overall coverage of the 3 servers and the best connector ( oceanic > sea > EU), they’ve just stopped showing up for whatever reasons. Rumor mill has it they are talking to a bunch of guilds and are showing weakness like they did before they got their KN guilds.
I assure you we have not stopped showing up. What people seem to misjudge is BG’s EST NA force and our EU. Our EU was being supplemented by late playing oceanic and SEA players in a very unsustainable way. Guild wise we only have 1 EU guild running on a daily basis and that is RK who fields 20 people max. Refer to my previous post for what I believe would be needed to get a close to balanced t1. As I also said previously I don’t believe t1 has ever been fully balanced in the past.
In hindsight SoR should have recruited Oceanic/SEA guilds so they could remain competitive during those timezones instead of throwing the scoring out of whack by recruiting EU.
If I’m not wrong everyone in T1 tried to recruit IRON. However, IRON decided to choose SoR instead of BG and JQ.
I was actually in the meeting with the IRON leader for bg and this is how it went. I explained to them how SOR’s NA is and has always been stronger than ours (bg) and we all know it’s true all chest thumping aside. The reason our EU time was ticking so high was because of a push coordinated by our sea coverage and that it wasn’t sustainable. I told them that if they went to SOR they would come in 1st place. I also told them that JQ is not dying they never will, been around forever not going anywhere but if they went to JQ it would rally them and they would come in 1st. I continued on to tell them that bg is already in first and as it is an EU guild would make it even more unbalanced unless JQ starting coming back out in force in which case bg would need them to keep 1st because our oceanic’s went playing sustainably. But I finished by telling them that no t1 server has strong EU and transferring to any would not be a good idea so in conclusion move to DB. I told them this because I have a great respect for SOR and JQ and I knew this would upset the tier. So yes I Avatar Raiden former officer in [EA] and current officer in [KnT] did tell IRON not to transfer to us.
P.S.
I’m not saying t1 is balanced cause it isn’t here is a list of what I believe is needed.
SOR: 1 pvx SEA guild 1 oceanic wvw focused guild
BG: 1 wvw focused EST NA guild 1 pvx NA guild 1 small EU guild
JQ: 1 small EU guild 1 wvw sea guild 1-2 pvx NA guilds
I think if all these things happened t1 would be relatively balanced
I was not in on the meetings as Yanox was dealing with speaking to all the servers, the only one I personally got involved with, was speaking to was Indo, Green and a few others on SoR as our decision came closer.
I know you guys said there was not alot of opposition during euro hours (hence the 600 ppt you had the week we transferred). But i was informed that both JQ and BG wanted us to join them, in fact both servers were willing to support us with the cost of transfering.
Oh I apologize it was early in the morning for me and I was invited to the meeting late, I just assumed Yanox was the leader. Keep in mind I am not by any means the main speaker for my server I was just invited to join in on the conversation with a few others where I gave my opinion and went back to my commanding.
I agree with the post above as for wut is needed its really not as doom and gloom as ppl r making it out to be na guilds r not the hardest things to find
BUT with this said I think we in t1 need to have leaders from all of r servers work together on recruiting guilds and coverage so we don’t blow balance out the window again kinda keep it in check kinda thing
I agree with your premise but not your solution. This is a war game after all we need to keep a good balance between hatred and respect for our opponents and the second we all gather in a room to work out where transfers go the second this changes from a fight for first place to a little kids baseball game where we all shake hands after the match. I think all we need is for the leaders to realize that winning all the time isn’t fun it’s the fighting that’s fun. My all time favorite night on this game was when I stayed up all night with a few hundred people in the BG ts pushing JQ for our first win in t1 and if we just sat in first after that then we would never get to experience a night like that again. It’s for that night that I will always do my best to make sure we will never blow out in t1 because I personally like 3rd place better than 1st, gives me something to fight for. So congratulations SOR for your win last week I know how much it meant to us so enjoy it. But be ready BG had a few setbacks in our history as well and we always come back swinging
In hindsight SoR should have recruited Oceanic/SEA guilds so they could remain competitive during those timezones instead of throwing the scoring out of whack by recruiting EU.
If I’m not wrong everyone in T1 tried to recruit IRON. However, IRON decided to choose SoR instead of BG and JQ.
I was actually in the meeting with the IRON leader for bg and this is how it went. I explained to them how SOR’s NA is and has always been stronger than ours (bg) and we all know it’s true all chest thumping aside. The reason our EU time was ticking so high was because of a push coordinated by our sea coverage and that it wasn’t sustainable. I told them that if they went to SOR they would come in 1st place. I also told them that JQ is not dying they never will, been around forever not going anywhere but if they went to JQ it would rally them and they would come in 1st. I continued on to tell them that bg is already in first and as it is an EU guild would make it even more unbalanced unless JQ starting coming back out in force in which case bg would need them to keep 1st because our oceanic’s went playing sustainably. But I finished by telling them that no t1 server has strong EU and transferring to any would not be a good idea so in conclusion move to DB. I told them this because I have a great respect for SOR and JQ and I knew this would upset the tier. So yes I Avatar Raiden former officer in [EA] and current officer in [KnT] did tell IRON not to transfer to us.
P.S.
I’m not saying t1 is balanced cause it isn’t here is a list of what I believe is needed.
SOR: 1 pvx SEA guild 1 oceanic wvw focused guild
BG: 1 wvw focused EST NA guild 1 pvx NA guild 1 small EU guild
JQ: 1 small EU guild 1 wvw sea guild 1-2 pvx NA guilds
I think if all these things happened t1 would be relatively balanced
LMAO, SOR gets 1 guild, BG/JQ can’t exploit SOR’s weakness and the tears flow. Everything is balanced if you guys get T3 keeps going into NA prime time, but SOR getting T3 keeps, its unbalanced. I have listened for months how SOR NA was over rated, now the shoe is on the other foot all i hear is crying. Man up JQ/BG. You haters wanting easy mode are way too funny. Put your big boy pants on.
t1 has never been equal coverage. but dont kid yourself by thinking its equal now.
I guess JQ winning 3 months straight was ok ,while SOR was in last. although SOR kept coming out fighting, only reason the stayed in T1. JQ/BG are acting like they dont have a WvW force, though we all know they are waiting to pounce on easy mode victory. Don’t act like you don’t have the coverage.
we are all wvw servers and have coverage and we are all doing our best to win. like i said t1 has never been equal coverage which includes the times sor was in 3rd and jq was in 1st
LMAO, SOR gets 1 guild, BG/JQ can’t exploit SOR’s weakness and the tears flow. Everything is balanced if you guys get T3 keeps going into NA prime time, but SOR getting T3 keeps, its unbalanced. I have listened for months how SOR NA was over rated, now the shoe is on the other foot all i hear is crying. Man up JQ/BG. You haters wanting easy mode are way too funny. Put your big boy pants on.
t1 has never been equal coverage. but dont kid yourself by thinking its equal now.
I don’t get it, did the addition of one EU guild really kickstart SOR that much? Of course I am very happy for my server and grateful to IRON for having the balls to transfer to the underdog server, but I’m hoping this power is sustainable past this weekend and that people aren’t burning themselves out through long hours. And if it is, lets be more classy about it than JQ/BG have been. “Winning” has always been a numbers/coverage issue rather than skill. A trash server would never have made it to T1.
I don’t know if there is overtime, but I think regardless IRON will make SoR more competitive for 2 reasons:
1. They are a really good guild.
2. They tie into SoR’s already strong NA. SoR while still the underdog coverage wise, has a 2 timezone tie in. The Euro will tie into the NA, which will create a strong combo of high ppt for almost 12 hours.
I’m starting to think people don’t truly understand the coverage of BG. SOR has always had stronger NA coverage. The EU coverage was only good lately cause lots of MERC, WM, and ND stayed up super late (you all really not see all the oceanic tags in EU time the past few weeks?) they only really have 1 EU guild and that’s RK. The only time there coverage is actually superior to SOR is oceanic time and to be frank its far superior and that’s what gives them the edge. With arrow carts being the way they are atm if you have a t3 keep u will hold good ppt and if bg oceanic flips all SOR’s then there NA can hold better ppt.
I predict with IRON joining SOR and supplementing their already strong NA and BG’s oceanic’s tired from weeks of staying up late tying to win we will finally see SOR in first or at least second with JQ in third
By the way I thought before was fine all they need to do is nerf the classes that can abuse the rendering accordingly. treat it as if there is no fix and build the game around that rather than testing out new fixes on us with no testing done.
New patch feels way worse by far for me. Today we lost our tower because an invisible golem was with the enemy zerg and no one could see it meaning no targeting it with the two ballista’s we had set up. Also it seems that while before I would see 10ish enemies and find out that it was like 25 while now I see 1 or 2 then boom 25. Personally I would rather know it’s a lot then have all of them pop up in my face. By the way I am a dd ele.
Like I said WvW/I took control of the fight late, I know star trebs can be easily countered from hills. They said btw hills outer is at 10% 3 trebs at star. If I was dedicated to hills your trebs would have been countered in less than 2mins from a place you cant hit. Our people put the counter treb in a super bad spot and your trebs got it. Your a novice if your think that attack from star would have lasted vs an experienced enemy.
You guys did make it really hard to get in that place lol have to give you that. And I made a bad call at the last or we might have held inner. Still bg suffers from extreme tunnel vision.
So the place sbi borderlands originally all green and we thought hey lets go fight there. We (BG) went there and took back our tower and started hitting hills. While this was going on JQ appeared to take the opportunity to take their side back as well. After taking hills while patrolling we see that JQ’s only tower is getting hit by SBI with large numbers and it looked like they outnumbered JQ by at least 2 to 1. So we decided well, SBI is in first and if JQ gets wiped from the map SBI will only be on us. So we made the decision to come to JQ’s aid. We with our group of about 6 people then ran into a zerg of about 25 sbi and made them retreat only to realize that JQ immediately jumped down behind us hit us in the back and ran back into their tower. Causing us to be wiped and SBI to come right back to their door…. I just want to know WHY JQ WHY?!?!?
just swap the buffs for orb and outmaned. outmaned servers need the boost to keep fighting and that will give it to them. plus this way we still get the fun of going for orbs and hacking them wont matter as much.
well i have found that you can join parties with people from other servers and talk to them which is fun. but not whispers cause to do that you need the persons name and it doesnt show for other servers unless someone on your server knew the person and told them your name which is possible. but those are the only ways i can think of if it was someone from the other server that is.
been doing midterms all week so havnt had a chance to play or read the forums much. is there any chance that blackgate will make it to tier 1 next week cause another blow out like this will not be fun.
what bout an inbetween just make it quicker to get out of combat. i just hate having to run away for 30 seconds when a single guy turns to a zerg and i ahve to ditch my team. its not like im runing from someone and it still takes forever, thats my only problem. why not make it so if your not hit for 5 seconds your out of combat and then you open your inv and switch. and you can make a separate out of combat thats the same as now for allowing you to go to the waypoint which will stop people from running and teleporting.
psonally with the fix to the downed state im happy. with my build i got 41% crit with fury most of the time so 61% i got 16k hp and 2k toughness and i hit 9k crits with churning earth and im 0,25,30,15 so if i actually speced into some damage and changed my gear to full glass cannon i thin it would be a little op lol consider the 9k crit then has a 3kish bleed. plus with my staff i get 3k crits on my bas fire attack, about 8k from all lava front hits and 4k crits with meteor shower which is a huge aoe. personally other than the fact that i have to run out of combo to gain any ranged attacks im fine. has anyone else noticed that while ele is supposed yo be the most versatile its really not. for example with a staff you have no close range skills… while other calsses can switch to ranged and mele while fighting. with dagger you have no ranged skills. the only time your versatile is with maybe s/d. so thats the only real problem i have, take forever to run away to switch cause the two guys you were fighting turned into a zerg and with dd your useless so now you run halway back to spawn to switch to staff to try and help your team… gets annoying but w/e thats the price for being such a fun class lol. ele since day 1 and never changing
ya haven’t had much time to play since last week stupid midterms… good since I mainly use dd it will be nice not to use ride the lightning to get the jump on someone and end up getting stuck and beaten like a piñata. ya mostly the trick with staff is you can’t just use the iceberg and earthquake you have to plan them. I usually drop my frozen ground skill (sorry don’t remember the name) then drop iceberg and then go to earth and drop earthquake with the crippling skill in their way when they try to move. you can also try to use the static field in lightning first then combo it with the iceberg or earthquake but my favorite is casting static field and dropping a lava front under them lol fun to watch them try to get away and they cant cause they just get stunned and stuck on it.
I think most people who think eles suck just need to practice more. I’ve been playing ele since the 3 day head start and the only problems I have had were the horrible downed state and a few very annoying skill bugs with ride the lightning and magnetic grasp. I switch off between staff and dd and you just need to understand what each is for dd is a roamer that basically scouts and takes on 1 or two people and if it’s more you run. In groups you use staff and completely destroy zergs I mean seriously if you’re talking about wvw staff is insanely good. my traits are 0,25,0,30,15 which is my wvw roamer build for dd and when I throw my staff on I get 3k crits with my base fire attack and 4k with meteor shower all with 16k hp and 1800 toughness. spvp I use either bunker scepter dagger or roamer dd and I can also destroy most classes thieves are hard with the rendering and mesmers are just annoying same with bunker specs. As for pve we do just fine with basically any build or weapon set. Personally in pve I use a boon dd build can stack might hella and works just fine. All in all the only things I have a problem with are the bugs in a few skills and bugs in some other class’s skills. Downed state is a little better now that mist form is instant cast. But the real annoying thing is the amount of time it takes to get out of combat so I can switch weapons for different situations but I guess that the trade off for having so many skills. But anyway rant over point is eles are just fine people just need to spend a little less time worrying about whether they are a little weaker and a little more time on finding ways to win.
no blackgate is ranked 5th and they are destroying 4th place server which is hod and hod is only like 30 behind ioj so actually if ioj loses and blackgate keeps destroyying its possible for them to move to thrid
they should just switch the buffs that orbs and outman give you. orbs should give the magic find and that stuff while outmaned gives something actually useful cause i mean come on when your out maned its not like you going around taking everything to where a karma boost is helpful lol
Noticed when i put my armor on there is a gap in me. its the waist line of the character and for some reason when i move i can see strait through almost like im cut in half and the top half is just bouncing around. I know its not really a big deal but its just kind of distracting haha so I thought I would point it out. and i acually just noticed that even when i stand still there is still a small gap. carrion acolyte coat of the pack and flame legion guards of the pack. also i did have other people look and they can see the gap too so its not just me
hey im thinking about going for arah daggers which means i need 600 tokens. can anyone give me an estimate on the time it takes per run, which path is the easiest and/or the most fun, and how possible it is when running with pugs?
now what happenes when your party does it after telling you they are doing a legit run? i dont really want to leave after i worked hard to get to the boss room… but i dont wat to cheat either. so right now i sitting in a different room and not jumping the wall
1. k you can grind it for me
2. CoF difficulty is insane. even with a good team
3. other dungeon sets looks er lame
4. lol wut?
5. see 3. i dont want different armor looks, i want the one i think looks cool not nonsense.
try again
1. that makes no sense my point was you dont have to do the same dungeon over and over again to get the set you can try them all while still working for the set you want
2. cof pre buff was insanely easy and if you had a hard time you suck. post buff its really hard but that makes it fun cause there is stratagy which i like and so do many others
3.i personally dont want all the dungeon sets but the devs said the paint was to collect the different looks meaning collect all the best sets just to have them. plus if the set with the stats you want doesnt have the look you want to ahve to get 2 sets to transfer the look onto the one with the stats.
4. i can try all 8 dungeons and all 4 paths on each and just be working towards two different looks meaning you can try all dungeons and all paths and still have a chance at getting different looks while now if i cycle through all 8 dungeons it would take an insane amount of time.
5. see three
bro think about stuff before you respond this is just my opinion of course there will be other opinions im just giving my 2 cents.
1 u said said no grind so why dont you do it for me. or is there some magical way to get the set that i want?
by difficult i mean the room before the final stage. the reason people played tag with them is because chances are you will get steamrolled otherwise.
at 3 i couldnt care less about stats obv the dungeon sets are for skins and the other dungeon skins look ugly to me. why should i go farm a dungeon when i am uninterested in its reward? again idc about diff looks. im not going to waste my time doing something i would not use aside from spamming map chat so say hey i did this even tho i think its ugly.
when u get repeatedly die and get kitten reward, that aside add the fact that u get about 20 tokens a run and you need over a thousand to get ur set, essentially meaning you have to grind. then they tell you, no you are not supposed to grind…erm wut? if they don’t want us to grind why don’t we just get the reward from our first go? its not like HEY let me run this dungeon 60 times because its so fun and lore and omg it has all the cools….no. just no. i personally use a magic find sets and even if i remotely found the other sets appealing i still would not go waste countless gold to make multiple sets just because i cant decide what skin i want.
first of all the game isnt all about you.
second of all if you could do all 8 dungeons and all 4 paths in each dungeon all working twords the one set you want your saying that wouldnt make you happy. your fighting my reasoning not my idea why dont you focus on that rather than why i think it will make the game better
im not being a fanboy i was mad i only had time to get 170 carvings before they cahnged it i was just giving my 2 cents on what i think could improve it. when i said this complaining is insane i meant that its not consructive to anything telling them they suck is not going to make the game better im just saying what i think should be done to deliver on there promises of no grinding.
Why would anyone run anything but the easiest/shortest run then, killer?
thats how its going to be no matter what you do people farmed cof cause it was easy. but atleast my way would allow players that actually play for fun not to farm gear (like the devs wanted)would be able to have fun while still being able to get the gear.
as it is right now if i want 1 dungeon set i have to sit and grind the same four paths for 60+ hours. with my way yes you can still choose to grind if you want but you will have the option of playing like the devs wanted and thats a way of no grinding while still being able to reach goals.
If the token reward system takes too long and the trading post cost too much, what is stopping you from crafting your own? Its a really really good crafting system.The rewards are as good as any gear in the whole MMO which isnt done in many MMO’s. It wont cost you a dime if you play the game and plan ahead.
No other true MMO in history has given you so many ways to get the best gear in the game and be on equal footing with the best of the best players.
Because a ton of people don’t find the concept of spending all their “Many” (sarcasm) hours of free time a day running around doing chores of collecting materials over and over again just to make gear that has no skill or challenge or reward feel outside of “Well I say there an farmed 5000 Iron Ore…that was challenging now I got me 1 exotic piece…time to do it all again.”
This is what I meant by you are not that intelligent. If you had any sense in you, you wouldn’t ask such a stupid question.
Ahh the name calling bait. Hmm should I take it? Naw like your opinion of my intelligence means anything to me.
what guild are you in i have been looking for one that is actually skilled in pve and all the ones i find have like 200 memebers but only like 3 in actual voice chat and thats no fun
You do realize that each dungeon awards different tokens right? Doing different dungeons doesn’t help if you’re trying to get a specific one.
That’s why people have suggested that if this is what they’re going to do, then they should make 1 dungeon token for all, that way they can do different dungeons but still try for 1 set.
read my post im saying it would solve all dungeon problems if they made all dungeons give the same tokens and those were my reasons why
1. k you can grind it for me
2. CoF difficulty is insane. even with a good team
3. other dungeon sets looks er lame
4. lol wut?
5. see 3. i dont want different armor looks, i want the one i think looks cool not nonsense.
try again
1. that makes no sense my point was you dont have to do the same dungeon over and over again to get the set you can try them all while still working for the set you want
2. cof pre buff was insanely easy and if you had a hard time you suck. post buff its really hard but that makes it fun cause there is stratagy which i like and so do many others
3.i personally dont want all the dungeon sets but the devs said the paint was to collect the different looks meaning collect all the best sets just to have them. plus if the set with the stats you want doesnt have the look you want to ahve to get 2 sets to transfer the look onto the one with the stats.
4. i can try all 8 dungeons and all 4 paths on each and just be working towards two different looks meaning you can try all dungeons and all paths and still have a chance at getting different looks while now if i cycle through all 8 dungeons it would take an insane amount of time.
5. see three
bro think about stuff before you respond this is just my opinion of course there will be other opinions im just giving my 2 cents.
Thank you Anet for not giving in to the screams and sticking with your design. My static group and I just completed all 4 paths in Arah today and we were totally blown away with some of the events and boss fights. The scenery and atmosphere is spot on and all 5 of us really enjoyed our 5 hours today.
In those 4 wings we ended up with 100 tokens or so but that wasn’t why we were running them. We wanted the challenge. We wanted the atmosphere. We wanted to have our efforts rewarded and we got exactly that.
It wasn’t the loot that rewarded us. It was the satisfaction of knowing we 5 are doing things that most here on this board says is impossible. We were rewarded with the laughs we shared when someone goofed and got capped or how one of our members just cant figure out that running ahead just isn’t bright.
All in all, it was a fantastic day of dungeon crawling and we want to thank you for it. We haven’t had this much challenge in a game since Eq1.
Thanks.
Let me re-write this:
“Thank you ArenaNet for not giving into the QQing today, because me and my 4 buddies were in the first group of 80s who didn’t get shafted in the “Kitten” and got to free farm out CoF gear before you ruined the game for everyone else. Now we have the gear to viably run Arah, so keep up the good work only catering to me and my 4 friends and make sure you don’t screw us too because were the last happy people you have left."
Signed,
The guy who has no idea what the problem of today is.
Umm CoF gear wont make you 1 bit stronger than the exotics you can buy from the trading post. The ONLY reason to get the gear is for the looks . Everyone who logs in can have the exact same stats I have by going to the trading post.
So why are you doing something you really really hate that doesnt measure up to your standards when you can get the same stats by crafting or buying them?
The game isnt broken. Your mentality is.
You really aren’t intelligent… one its horsekitten for you to sit here and tell me you and your buddies aren’t all in CoF gear.
Secondly to buy the Exotics for 3-5 gold if not more a piece on the TP you need to farm money. And now the repair cost > Money earned from dungeon grinding which means either way you slice this pie my friend you are thanking arenanet for screwing everyone else but you and your 4 buddies.
Roll another toon and join the crowd who got shafted lets see if you sing the same tune when you get to 80 on that character.
Bud you just don’t have a clue. I have over 200g already and I didn’t get it by running dungeons. I logged on day 1 and leveled weaponsmith as I leveled my character. I sell at least 1 weapon a day and depending on materials I have sold 4 a day. I don’t corner the market, i don’t undercut anyone. All I do is craft a weapon, sell it and boom gtg.
Oh and I am a jeweler as well.
I have 2 pieces of CoF gear and have done all 3 paths in CoF. We didnt sit there and farm magg because we KNEW it would be changed.
I bet you right now I can level an alt and staert it out fresh with 0 help from my main and be ahead of you in days. Why? because i dont whine and think things cant be done. I just go do them.
2 types of people in this world and ONLY 2 types.
Those that get stuff done.
Those that dont.
200g already? And not from dungeons. Clearly then something is broken and/or you’re exploiting. Screenshot to prove this 200g? And clearly whatever is broken isn’t dungeons, since you can oh so easily get 200g without doing them. You sell 1 crafted weapon a day? how do you think people could afford those weapons? possibly from dungeon rewards… right? oh my! you’da been kitttened without those dungeon rewards.
k this post went from an good debate about the state of the game to something stupid. who cares how much gold he has…
Thank you Anet for not giving in to the screams and sticking with your design. My static group and I just completed all 4 paths in Arah today and we were totally blown away with some of the events and boss fights. The scenery and atmosphere is spot on and all 5 of us really enjoyed our 5 hours today.
In those 4 wings we ended up with 100 tokens or so but that wasn’t why we were running them. We wanted the challenge. We wanted the atmosphere. We wanted to have our efforts rewarded and we got exactly that.
It wasn’t the loot that rewarded us. It was the satisfaction of knowing we 5 are doing things that most here on this board says is impossible. We were rewarded with the laughs we shared when someone goofed and got capped or how one of our members just cant figure out that running ahead just isn’t bright.
All in all, it was a fantastic day of dungeon crawling and we want to thank you for it. We haven’t had this much challenge in a game since Eq1.
Thanks.
Let me re-write this:
“Thank you ArenaNet for not giving into the QQing today, because me and my 4 buddies were in the first group of 80s who didn’t get shafted in the “Kitten” and got to free farm out CoF gear before you ruined the game for everyone else. Now we have the gear to viably run Arah, so keep up the good work only catering to me and my 4 friends and make sure you don’t screw us too because were the last happy people you have left."
Signed,
The guy who has no idea what the problem of today is.
Umm CoF gear wont make you 1 bit stronger than the exotics you can buy from the trading post. The ONLY reason to get the gear is for the looks . Everyone who logs in can have the exact same stats I have by going to the trading post.
So why are you doing something you really really hate that doesnt measure up to your standards when you can get the same stats by crafting or buying them?
The game isnt broken. Your mentality is.
You really aren’t intelligent… one its horsekitten for you to sit here and tell me you and your buddies aren’t all in CoF gear.
Secondly to buy the Exotics for 3-5 gold if not more a piece on the TP you need to farm money. And now the repair cost > Money earned from dungeon grinding which means either way you slice this pie my friend you are thanking arenanet for screwing everyone else but you and your 4 buddies.
Roll another toon and join the crowd who got shafted lets see if you sing the same tune when you get to 80 on that character.
Bud you just don’t have a clue. I have over 200g already and I didn’t get it by running dungeons. I logged on day 1 and leveled weaponsmith as I leveled my character. I sell at least 1 weapon a day and depending on materials I have sold 4 a day. I don’t corner the market, i don’t undercut anyone. All I do is craft a weapon, sell it and boom gtg.
Oh and I am a jeweler as well.
I have 2 pieces of CoF gear and have done all 3 paths in CoF. We didnt sit there and farm magg because we KNEW it would be changed.
I bet you right now I can level an alt and staert it out fresh with 0 help from my main and be ahead of you in days. Why? because i dont whine and think things cant be done. I just go do them.
2 types of people in this world and ONLY 2 types.
Those that get stuff done.
Those that dont.
im like you in all ways accept one. i dont ahve time to get stuff done in the game im a student still trying to get stuff done im life and thats not an insult or anything twords you i just want some reward too my main reward is fun but i want that sick armor and i dont ahve time to get gold either to get the trade post armor i was counting on cof to get the good armor. by the way im 400 jewel crafting as well and im an ele that has no problem with any dungeon even with sub par gear. love the difficulty just want tokens to all be the same!!!
Simple solution all dungeon tokens are the same solves the following problems.
1. Dont have to grind the same dungeon for armor!
2. Difficulty is still the same so you can still find a challenge even with a good team!
3. Won’t take forever to find a party for every dungeon besides cof!
4. Can get different armor looks while still trying all dungeons!
5. Still have tons of game play if you want to collect all armor sets!
And many more that I don’t feel like typing!!
I could spend 100 painful hours (plus another 100 trying to get people together) “working” for an armor set in what’s supposed to be a fun video game, so that I can lord it over people in Lion’s Arch to show them that yes, I am part of the unemployed, masochistic MMO 1%. Or I could just stop playing because the game doesn’t really have anything else to offer in PvE. Who’s still going to be around for you to show off to in the coming months?
This is your hangup not mine. Don’t project it onto me. I went and made one of the personal mystic forges yesterday so that I don’t have to step foot into Lions arch. I could care less to have drooling people looking at my gear. My worth as a human being isn’t dictated by anyone’s appreciation of video game pixels. Oh btw I am 40, retired from the navy as a Master Chief after 21 years of service. I own my own home outright and guess what? I even take baths on a regular basis.
bro i understand you points i to love the challenge but can you at least agree that by making the tokens from dungeons all the same it would improve the game. this would make it so people can run all the dungeons, the difficulty would stay the same, and those of us that dont have all the time can still play anything we want and still get the pixel rewards.
p.s. i dont have the money for the trade post gear haha and i still do fine even in arah and im al ele. Difficulty=perfect and with a good party the repair cost is much less that the reward. there are two things i dont like different tokens from all dungeons and diminished returns from running the same one… what if i like that one cause its the hardest?
Thank you Anet for not giving in to the screams and sticking with your design. My static group and I just completed all 4 paths in Arah today and we were totally blown away with some of the events and boss fights. The scenery and atmosphere is spot on and all 5 of us really enjoyed our 5 hours today.
In those 4 wings we ended up with 100 tokens or so but that wasn’t why we were running them. We wanted the challenge. We wanted the atmosphere. We wanted to have our efforts rewarded and we got exactly that.
It wasn’t the loot that rewarded us. It was the satisfaction of knowing we 5 are doing things that most here on this board says is impossible. We were rewarded with the laughs we shared when someone goofed and got capped or how one of our members just cant figure out that running ahead just isn’t bright.
All in all, it was a fantastic day of dungeon crawling and we want to thank you for it. We haven’t had this much challenge in a game since Eq1.
Thanks.
Let me re-write this:
“Thank you ArenaNet for not giving into the QQing today, because me and my 4 buddies were in the first group of 80s who didn’t get shafted in the “Kitten” and got to free farm out CoF gear before you ruined the game for everyone else. Now we have the gear to viably run Arah, so keep up the good work only catering to me and my 4 friends and make sure you don’t screw us too because were the last happy people you have left."
Signed,
The guy who has no idea what the problem of today is.
im actually more on his side then yours. i want difficulty i like having an insane challenge. but i want to still be rewarded for attempting it and trying all the dungeons. at this point if i wanted to try all the paths in all the dungeons it would take me weeks of playing and in the end i wouldnt be any closer to the cool sets. i vote keep the diffuculty the same but make it so all the tokens are the same.
Thank you Anet for not giving in to the screams and sticking with your design. My static group and I just completed all 4 paths in Arah today and we were totally blown away with some of the events and boss fights. The scenery and atmosphere is spot on and all 5 of us really enjoyed our 5 hours today.
In those 4 wings we ended up with 100 tokens or so but that wasn’t why we were running them. We wanted the challenge. We wanted the atmosphere. We wanted to have our efforts rewarded and we got exactly that.
It wasn’t the loot that rewarded us. It was the satisfaction of knowing we 5 are doing things that most here on this board says is impossible. We were rewarded with the laughs we shared when someone goofed and got capped or how one of our members just cant figure out that running ahead just isn’t bright.
All in all, it was a fantastic day of dungeon crawling and we want to thank you for it. We haven’t had this much challenge in a game since Eq1.
Thanks.
Let me re-write this:
“Thank you ArenaNet for not giving into the QQing today, because me and my 4 buddies were in the first group of 80s who didn’t get shafted in the “Kitten” and got to free farm out CoF gear before you ruined the game for everyone else. Now we have the gear to viably run Arah, so keep up the good work only catering to me and my 4 friends and make sure you don’t screw us too because were the last happy people you have left."
Signed,
The guy who has no idea what the problem of today is.
im actually more on his side then yours. i want difficulty i like having an insane challenge. but i want to still be rewarded for attempting it and trying all the dungeons. at this point if i wanted to try all the paths in all the dungeons it would take me weeks of playing and in the end i wouldnt be any closer to the cool sets. i vote keep the diffuculty the same but make it so all the tokens are the same.
Guess what people. My static will go run another dungeon tomorrow. We might be back to Arah later this week. You guys are focused on getting something now now now instead of looking at it from a bigger picture of.. This is just 1 step of a bigger picture.
My post stands. The game isn’t broken. Your mentality is.
you dont seem to understand everyong wants the end game gear. ya your fine with waiting for it but not all of us can put in 5 hours of play time a day and normal parties cant finish that dungeon at all. so like i said for me to get that set with your party speed it will still take me 95 hours which is like 10 weeks for me and thats 1 set and of just grinding the same dungeon.
Its you sir thats missing the point. Dont do the dungeons for the gear. You wont be 1 bit stronger than the exotics you can buy from the TP. Fact of the matter is, only people who do things in a game for the sole reason of a pixel reward thinks the dungeons are broken. Those of us that know better are enjoying ourselves.
Real raiders and Pro’s know the loot isnt the reward.
first of all im playing an ele and still do beastly in the dungeons so i know how to play. and i think i should have been more clear i dont want the dungeons to be easier i love how hard they are i just want the armor to be easier to get. if you truely dont care about the armor then you shouldnt care how easy it is to get. also i dont want it to be super easy i would be happy to put in say 25 hours to get 1 set the problem is i have to do it on 1 dungeon and thats boring. it seems to me if they made it so all dungeons shared tokens and left the difficulty the same me and you would both be happy. unless you really to want the reward and just want to look pro because your one of the few with a party that is willing to put in 5 hours a day to get it.
The way I see it is if all the dungeons gave the same tokens and the end game was really about looks meaning you would want to collect the armor from all dungeons you would still have an insane amount of gameplay. Arah by itself is something like 95 hours to get the full set and 2 weps with a good party. But the problem is if I ever want any sets I cant afford to play arah cause it takes to long and I don’t have insane amounts of time to play. But if the dungeons all shared tokens I could just play which ever one was the most fun and still be working towards armor.
You do realize that this means with a good party and voice communication it will still take 65 hours to get the set not including the weapon and those of us needing dual weps it will take 95 hours. Plus with random groups the dungeon is basically impossible as said by others. 95 hours of the same dungeon to get 1 of the 8 sets is stupid and no offense but if your don’t agree your stupid cause that is a grind fest which is what the designers said they don’t like so basically they don’t like their own game plus the fact that they could just make the tokens all the same and people that want to work hard to get stuff can still put in hundreds of hours for the legendary weps.
These dungeons aren’t ment to be pugged. In fact Anet has said it over and over and over. Your need to get everything now now now is the only reason you think it takes too long to get the gear.
i dont need it now im not one of the people that played 2 days strait to get the cof gear haha i started in early start and still only have 190 tokens from cof. im just playing the game and having fun. i dont need it now im fine with putting in time but the problem is with the amount of time it takes to get this gear now its basically unreachable for me and thats why im mad. i like a challenge in fact 1 night i played arah with a random group for like 5 hours as you did and we only got half way done in both of the runs we did and yes 2 runs half way in 5 hours haha. i had a great time and loved the challenge but i want my work and fun to be rewarding eventually and at this point it seems like i wont be able to get any sets with the amount of time i ahve to play.
Guess what people. My static will go run another dungeon tomorrow. We might be back to Arah later this week. You guys are focused on getting something now now now instead of looking at it from a bigger picture of.. This is just 1 step of a bigger picture.
My post stands. The game isn’t broken. Your mentality is.
you dont seem to understand everyong wants the end game gear. ya your fine with waiting for it but not all of us can put in 5 hours of play time a day and normal parties cant finish that dungeon at all. so like i said for me to get that set with your party speed it will still take me 95 hours which is like 10 weeks for me and thats 1 set and of just grinding the same dungeon.
