Guild Wars 2

Mayoken.9851:

Well my friend , DB held Mendon and Anzalias for about an hour but yeah for the most part not much happened due to AC’s. We lost Stonemist twice due to a unfortunate lack of scouting

VK had the other side of the map. The guild on that side was rather small. No real power to stop large numbers. We simply never bothered responding.

EB was fun for us VK. wiped 3 times in 6 hours. Had some fun fights with [CO]. The AC stuff is annoying, as proof of this, nearly no upgraded towers flipped all night. We all held our 1/3rd and once any of that 1 third was upgraded (baring some 4+ golem rush with no one home) they stayed that way.

1200 kills in EB. 0 from siege.

Judging by the AC thread, we will only need 1600 more posts to get a reply from ANET. Keep posting vids and comments!

WRod.3856:

VK, 5v5 today before reset?

umm yes!

Oozo.7856:

A few comments.

1. Fights like these are only going to be interesting if you include voice. That is what these fights are all about. Communication, movement, position, and coordination. You can only get a feel for that if we hear your commands.

2. Don’t cover up the action bars.

3. Don’t post movies from a full mouse-clicker’s PoV.

You will rarely if ever get full comms. Guilds work very hard at what they do. To post videos with comms, thats kind of giving away how they do things. At least, I know thats why i wouldn’t personally want full comms posted.

point 2 and 3. yes. I agree. Again. Only videos I had on hand in my personal guilds forums.

Sorry, I just went with the first 3 I could find.

Hello Anet,

I will start by saying I do love this game. I have invested 1000’s of hours into it. WvW is a nice idea, however it has areas that are fundamentally flawed. I don’t care to go into those, there are hundreds of posts about these things already (see AC thread for example).

With this last update, you are hearing a lot of complaining. Most of it is coming from the open field combat oriented guilds. The ones who love to delve into theory crafting around builds, group composition, tactics. Specifically the ones that simply love to use their character to its full intended purpose (not jumping on siege and spamming 2 for 2 hours).

Up until this point guilds that want to engage in this sort of action in any guaranteed fashion must go to elaborate lengths to stage a meeting (typically behind the south supply camp) They than have to try and find ways to have non-guild members not get involved. They than have to clear out all the ambient creatures. They than have to inform that map not to worry about the crossed swords behind the camp.

Sure this is fine.

However it does do something rather un-fair to the people who are not interested in this kind of encounter. It needlessly queues out maps. In some cases you see 60 people fighting/spectating.

The solution is simple (from my stand point, probably not from yours)

Give the people of this game a separate platform to engage in these type of activities.

Furthermore, up until now, if we were on the same server as another extremely tough opponent, or a guild we really respected, we would have to transfer servers just to fight them. This does NOTHING but screw up the dynamics of the entire match-up for that week as now you have a guild of 20+ on an enemy server taking up space, frustrating those who call that server home. Having a platform where we can actively engage guilds from ALL servers including our own would simply be outstanding.

This really is some of the most amazingly intense activities you can partake in within this game. It would be lovely to be able to engage in this type of activity more often in some kind of controlled environment.

Anet have you watched some of these videos from your most popular guilds?

Have you seen how crazy these activities become. They draw in players.

In case you have not seen the videos heres some links I found:

[RG] vs [VotF] (2 of your games more popular guilds)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NECK6HaZzM

[EMP] vs [AGG] (2 popular former T1 NA guilds now T2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPie64qmS10

[RE] vs [VK] (T2 guilds. 1 formerly EMP, 1 formerly RET)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=m0PMhDQwlQQ

So Anet. Is this a possibility?

I personally would absolutely love this. I can only speak for my own guild however.

Lance.5892:

DevonCarver.5370:

I’d like to shed some light on our thinking with this AC change as well as tell you all what we are doing right now to balance it.

Firstly, when siege weapons were originally created, they had the intent of being really good at some things and not so good at others. The arrow cart is intended to be the anti-personal siege weapon. It is intended that arrow carts are all about controlling an area through damage. If you remain in the area that is being hit by the arrow cart, you will die. You can however, move out of the space and/or find a new way to attack the intended target. That being said, they are not intended to be so good against other siege weapons and we are in the process of addressing that right now. We are also addressing their range when upgraded to be more in line with the range of ballistas.

Secondly, this change is going to require new tactics and those tactics include things like using ballista and catapults to destroy arrow carts. With that in mind, we’ve been looking more closely at the numbers of all the siege weapons and there are definitely some changes that need to be made to bring them in line with their intent. We are going to take a holistic pass at siege weapons in the coming months and drop a rebalance of all of them to get them to more closely align with what they should be doing.

Finally, the feedback you all provide is a very useful part of this whole process. WvW is a living, breathing game type and any changes we make have numerous consequences that don’t become fully visible until everyone starts interacting with them and devising new strategies. Our goal is to provide a complex combat space that rewards skill, tactics, and ingenuity and while we haven’t fully achieved that goal yet, I like to think we are getting there.

And thus, destroy open field large scale combat

ex) GvG
open field
keep fights

10v10
20v20
25v25
30v30
40v40
even fighting higher numbers
20v50
30v80

I’m sad to see this happen.

Since this is what the devs believe, the skirmish pvp guilds will probably be exiting this game soon.

If this is the case. Please give us a platform in which to GvG in this game.

Flirty Nerd.6407:

Loken.9724:

Well, since I will try and have no part in this AC vs AC bullkitten.

[VK] is looking for more GvG opponents!

pm me in game, or on here.

i know you can’t be enjoying the treb wars. Come actually play guild wars with us

Please upload videos! Can’t wait to see how well you guys will do with more experience under your belts.

I must know your secrets!

Your guild intro in your video is great.

Well, since I will try and have no part in this AC vs AC bullkitten.

[VK] is looking for more GvG opponents!

pm me in game, or on here.

i know you can’t be enjoying the treb wars. Come actually play guild wars with us

covenn.7165:

I am thinking that our new tactic is to just drop ACs open field and power them up anytime we meet an opposing force. Why bother with class abilities when I can just use 3 buttons?

Any time I have come across another organized guild group in the open. minimum 3 AC’s insta-drop on both sides. Open field combat is now another version of siege warfare. Great.

Just wait until 100 man zergs realize just how many AC’s they can drop on demand in the open..

Spend 50+ gold gearing a character to actually be able to play the game?

Why?

Spend 5 silver( I have no idea how much AC’s cost…) buy an AC, get your under leveled character out, sit on said AC and spam 1-2-3-4-5 (again , I have never used one, so I have no idea what buttons do what..but I assume theres 5 skills?)

Well done ANET.

but hey, I guess people are finally buying more treb blueprints so its a win for you guys right? more gold…

Thanks.

Please give us an arena to 20v20 in if this ridiculously absurd update is not going to be patched out.

VOTF Please keep this up. The change to the arrow carts sucks.

My guild is having exactly 9 billion % less fun in wvw.

Also before some idiot replys with ‘stop zerging’ My guild fields 20 when im on usually, we run private comms and tell pugs to leave us the kitten alone. 20 people taking 1 tower? sure give me 19 trebs and 12 hours. I’ll get it down eventually.

QQ

anyone want to just GvG us. AC carts scare me. I feel the need to hide behind the windmill and not leave until they get rid of the 80% buff.

I actually have no idea why people would think this will split up zergs. 100 people hit 1 tower now. tower will go down.

Lance.5892:

Johje Holan.4607:

It doesn’t actually seem that powerful to me. The most I was hitting for on a regular AC with no mastery was 1245. But mostly in the mid triple digits.

And to tell you the truth, I saw a lot of offensive AC’s too.

And the zergs in my match actually split up last night! It was fun.

http://imgur.com/w0LVRTA

1) try a superior
2) factor in wxp rank ac upgrades

This only encourages me to get 100 people to zerg a single tower. The 2 people on sup AC’s can’t possibly kill all 100 before we get the gate down…

When reset rolls around. If you get hills right away. you will have it the entire match. from start to finish baring some ridiculous mistake in leaving it undefended (than good luck ever getting it back)

AC was OP as is. ANET you had like 8 months of people telling you about leg spec. being ridiculously OP. So you offer us wvw people a sweet sweet update, than you sit in your offices and laugh your kittening heads off when we all see just what you added instead.

ANET thinking:

So how can we get people to buy more siege and give us more money?

Simple. Make rams useless. Now they all have to set up trebs, counter all the ac’s set up more trebs to counter the other trebs that will surely be placed to counter the counter treb that is trebbing your siege.

Now the siege will all be destroyed so now they can try rams. To bad AC’s only take a minimal amount of supply. Up go 4 more. Back to square 1.

5 hours later. WE HAVE DONE IT. WE HAVE TAKEN THE BRIAR AFTER 23456456 BREAKOUT ATTEMPTS AND 9 MILLION TREBS. THOSE 3 PEOPLE INSIDE BRIAR SURE kittenING GOT STOMPED ON!

At this point im making little sense. Im just so kitten disappointed in these kittening arrow carts.

I hate arrow carts. I hate siege all together. ANET just give us a kitten way to 20v20. You did call this game GUILD WARS 2 did you not? Whats the point of the name if we can not fight other guilds in any kind of organized fashion beyond needlessly queuing BLs and dumping 40 people into the south windmill area.

little ceasar.9254:

Loken.9724:

If this is the same VK we ran into in t8 much improved guys, score is still agg-9 VK-0 hopefully we can balance that out soon.

Same VK. We formed like 3 days before fighting you. We changed 100% of our builds after fighting you.

Our movement was actually god awful against RE, it’s the first thing we all QQ’d about on our personal forums.

We really wanted to make sure RE had fun and knew they were in for a fun fight. First 2 matches. We did not do that. Last 5 I think we did.

AGG. I’d love to fight you guys again. Same with anyone else that wants to. We don’t ever turn down a fight.

Learned a lot about what GvG is really about from AGG & RE. We will rise to the challenge and give you guys wicked tough fights very soon.

You guys have definitely stepped it up, and RE is a tough nut to crack for sure. Looking forward to facing you guys some more.
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Lets get this going!

Get Jerico to msg me in game or on here. We’ll get something set up.

If this is the same VK we ran into in t8 much improved guys, score is still agg-9 VK-0 hopefully we can balance that out soon.

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Same VK. We formed like 3 days before fighting you. We changed 100% of our builds after fighting you.

Our movement was actually god awful against RE, it’s the first thing we all QQ’d about on our personal forums.

We really wanted to make sure RE had fun and knew they were in for a fun fight. First 2 matches. We did not do that. Last 5 I think we did.

AGG. I’d love to fight you guys again. Same with anyone else that wants to. We don’t ever turn down a fight.

Learned a lot about what GvG is really about from AGG & RE. We will rise to the challenge and give you guys wicked tough fights very soon.

RE. You guys are by far the best guild we have ever run against.

1 VK 6 RE

We will come back and give you a hell of a fight the next time around. We definitly want another shot at you guys. That was so awsome. It’s nice to fight a guild that just loves to fight. VK <3 you guys. Got our respect.

Anyone else wants to fight us. Please PM me. We’d love to.

DB. I could not be happier that you are in this tier with us. The fights we are getting from you guys are top notch. Thank god you came along.

Keep it up.

First GvG of the match coming tonight for us :o

Thanks RE for accepting.

Wait.

What the hell is a ‘JP’ and why the hell do people give a flying kitten if people camp said ‘JP’

My POV of saturday nights 3 way mexican stand-off that occured on FABL south island.

Thanks guys. Sounds like it was a fairly even numbered fight for like 40 minutes lol

I think we had 17-20 VK on, and as I said before, 34 people in ts.

Man I hope everyone keeps that kind of stuff up.

Wild.

Welcome back CO!

Sorry, I forgot you were in there. My screen was swamped with RE tags.

I’d be curious to know what kind of numbers the other 2 parties had. I know VK had 34 including all random pugs (which were mostly rally bots for you guys(your welcome))

Dear lord. The fights on the south island of FABL tonight were epic. That was insane PINK/CERN vs VK vs RE Crazy.

Anyone up for some gvg later tonight? PM me in game around midnight cst

Unfortunately.5940:

15 characters!!

HA

Rawnoodles.1398:

Loken.9724:

I can not wait to see what kind of fights you guys bring around. Welcome to T2 DB

Excited to set up some GvGs! Looks like VK will be the 1st under our newly reformed guild name.

:D

VK can’t wait to fight with all you new comers. Anyone else wants to GvG we will most certainly take you up on that. Puhlease come play with us!

I can not wait to see what kind of fights you guys bring around. Welcome to T2 DB

What we got up to on reset.

I forgot to mention. We are on Fort aspenwood.

Vindico Knights[VK] is a hardcore, disciplined WvW guild of some of the most dedicated players around. If you would like to join us and be part of an organized guild, please read the recruitment section here and if you are interested in joining mail Brother Alaric in game to talk about joining. You can also reply here. We have people who want to join run with us for a few days to a week and decide over that time if they are a good fit.

WvW: We have an official raid time of 7EST-11/12 EST Every day at 6:45 we will rally in the heart of the mists, find out what the class composition is for that day, and make sure everyone has food. Then at 7:00pm EST after deciding on a borderland we will set out for the night to play WvW.

sPvP: Our official day for sPvP is Thursday throughout the day. We will play it by ear how this is carried out, but it will look mostly like this: Groups will be formed for tournaments or duels, and we will do that for most of the day. Many people in VK like to sPvP, and it’s great to have 1 day as a break from WvW to get some organized smaller scale pvp action.

PvE: Vindico Knights[VK] is a WvW only guild, and we will not be hosting any PvE events for now. However members ARE free to rep other guilds for all their guild missions and PVE needs. I am currently looking for a partner PVE guild for VK, so that all VK members interested in PVE can join that guild for missions/dungeons/fractals/farming.

Why join Vindico Knights?

Vindico Knights was started by 2 Guild Leaders of previous successful World vs. World guilds, but decided to team up to create a more tight-knit, personal, and hardcore guild where every member is a big asset to our team. Rather than relying on numbers in VK, we rely on teamwork and cohesion. In this guild you will not feel like another number on the roster, you will be a part of a smaller community of dedicated players.

We are all very active, so during prime time hours, you will always have a team of VK to play with. Every member in the guild is on a fairly consistent amount, so you will be used to playing with the same group of skilled WvW players who you will get to know quickly.

Although hardcore and determined, we are a laid back group of players and we always remember that the most important part of playing the game is having fun. We will joke around and have a good time, and we dont want members to burn out. (we actually moved to a lower server for a week to take a break from some of the seriousness of Tier 2, to just kill people on Tier 8 for fun)

We will do anything we can to help you become a better WvW player, if you want advice. That means we will give you build advice for your class, help you get geared up as the new gear slowly comes out through patches, and we will give you advice on how to best use your abilities when we are in a fight.

We have cookies….and many bags lying on the floor waiting to be picked up.

[VK] Membership Expectations

-Members are required to have one level 80 that is fully geared with toughness. A good amount of knowledge about the role of your class in WvW is essential.

-Download and use Teamspeak 3 while in WvW. Having a mic is nice for communication, but only listening is fine as well.

-Be on fairly consistently (3/4-7 days a week) during our raid times (7pm EST – 11/12pm EST) and devoting most of those hours in WvW with the guild. We wont keep track of how often every member is on, but we want to see you fairly often so that we are used to playing with you and having you as an important part of the guild. Due to our medium sized roster, our group runs during primetime hours, so you dont have to devote the entire day to playing WvW if you enjoy other parts of the game.

-Must be willing to follow direction of whoever is in command of the WvW group. The same respect and cooperation should be shown to each commander.

-Be respectful and mature. We wont tolerate trolling or disrespect between members of the guild. We want to remain positive and friendly as a community, and we are a drama free guild.

-Represent the guild 100% while in WvW. Even during non-raid hours, members often like to roam together or do havoc in WvW when there isnt a large group going. We dont mind if you run with other guilds and groups during off hours but please make sure that you are still representing [VK]

For further questions regarding VK, Don’t hesitate to contact Brother Alaric in game or here on the forums. I am glad to answer anything you have to ask

Heres some ideas as to what we do:

iCryptik.1496:

UCF Knight.8095:

skinnyb.5920:

I keep getting asked personally through whispers to GvG with VK but I am extremely put off in doing so because of this toxic forum attitude displayed before me.

Just remember, similarly to how the perception we attain from the few on this forum isn’t indicative of the entire server, the attitude you receive from one or two isn’t indicative of an entire guild.

Most of us are pretty chill people just looking to have fun.

Most of us don’t get into this whole TC vs FA nonsense anyway. I’ll be glad when the tier changes up a bit, but that’s only because I don’t like fighting the same people forever.

Yes, but that being said. A few rotten apples can ruin the whole bunch. If the few VK who mainly posts do mostly nothing but try to troll, what do you think people are gonna view VK as? Nothing but trolls.

We don’t have a perception that the entire server is bad, but that it is mostly rotten with a few good apples. Right now there is nothing that separates Mag from FA to me, other then the fact that FA currently has more numbers and Mag is purely about the fights, far more so then FA. A lot of people from FA have said they are purely about fighting, but then complain about loosing. If all the server cares about is fights, there is no reason to complain about zergs as I’ve seen FA field equal numbers or more multiple times, and either crush us or get crushed.

TL;DR: If you don’t want people to leave a bad taste about VK, don’t have them post with a VK tag. Also, if FA cares only about fighting, people as a whole need to stop the QQ.

The only thing VK cares about is fighting.

That’s it.

Points get you next to nothing in this game anyways other than 4 hour queue times and lag wars

If someone from x guild says something about us here. We simply respond with ‘Okay so I guess you want to 20v20 right?’

This is apparently considered trolling. Who knew with the kind of jibberish being printed on this forum on an hourly basis.

Dear lord. I can’t wait for DB to move up.

Well. FA put 6k on Kn over night.

I sure did enjoy making my home in TCBL garrison all night. Better get working on those upgrades to your BL. Every things paper.

Necros were OP before they buffed them…

Watch the link in my signature for a necro’s POV in wvw. I command 100% of the time im online in T2. I’d never use anything other than a necro. Love it.

I personally Love running into Nightlight of CERN of TC. He brings it. I love it.

FA:

Malose [BT]
Quenta [BT]

Teamkiller.4315:

Entioch.6594:

Teamkiller.4315:

Good 5v5’s from ONI at the South Camp of Kain BL.

Try to be more gracious losers next time though, our commander was talking about how you were being bad sports about hard rezzing, then accusing us of beating 3 thieves comp with 2 guardians comp and how it is not impressive (even though for half the matches our second guardian left so I was the only one)

P.S.: We were all running Zerg v Zerg support builds, not ideal for skirmishes

Sorry about that, when we roam late we do drunk roaming where we do shots with certain rules “every downed guardian, thief etc.” so we were plastered and I was being belligerent. Though I haven’t seen a hard rez in a 5v5 and I don’t think any of us were expecting that. That said you guys played great matches and we had a fun back and forth, though I think you guys won more. We should do it again sometime.

Oh, and to the golem guy, red something, om nom nom nom nom.

Lmao it’s fine. You were good sports outside of PMs to our commander. I exaggerated, my bad.

I’m sure you saw the Kaineng zerg that came in to try to crash the party. Those two PiNK eles led us into them I swear!

Well. As this match up of TC holding Kn’s hand every week is getting old. Ya. I will definitly want more of these match ups with you guys. despite my comments to your commander. It was late. I was grumpy. Those were fun fights.

P.s they run our golems off cliffs too. They are D-kittens like that sometimes.

Hey TC. I think you need a couple more guilds. You should try T5 this time. Lets see how many more tiers you can break

Sunspots.9861:

Lot of loll’s tonight in KNBL. Super Zergs on all sides smashing into each other for the last 2 hours ;P

That was wild. I got word from 1 of my guys this was going on after RE seemed to have logged off or left EB. Somehow there was no queue, it was a good way to end the night just running in and spamming 1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 6 111111111111111111111111111111111111111

To the RE/Kn zerg running around EB tonight. Well played.

Excuse 1 down. What else you got TSL?

Honestly. I can’t say I remember fighting you in the field? I rousing know your guild if it wasn’t for the farriors you have online.

Keep the excuses coming though.

CERN if your up for round 2 sometime don’t hesitate to look us up. If you’d like to fight other FA guilds I could surely help ya out there too!

See you out there tonight.

PS. We’ll be in EB

Whitebeard.5172:

Loken.9724:

Ah tarnished Tuesday’s. My fav time of the week.

It may be Tarnished Tuesday but it’s VK day every day. * Grabs a knife and fork*

Lol TSL. You guys crack me up.

Judging by your comments you should have no problem showing up to 20v20 us. I await your response.

I suspect some lame excuse as per the usual. Atleast CERN let’s their fighting do the talking unlike some guilds on TC…

CERN was fun as always fighting you in EB

Ah tarnished Tuesday’s. My fav time of the week.

EB was so fun tonight. Thanks guys.

FA was just in the SMC battle to have fun. We had no where near the numbers you guys were rolling in there so we really couldn’t actually contend for the title. We were more of trolling spectators

Holy kitten was that fun in EB tonight with TC/KN.