Guild Wars 2

Thanks [CoN] for GvG. Was fun.

We talked today between each other in the guild, about the whole situation with ORB.We wondered if GvG guilds moved to the servers as Vabbi and Whiteside. What does that give us?

1 Full control over the orb
2 Open-field prime time. 95% of GvG guild dont care about points.
3 No complaints about the server points
4 GvG all the way around.
5. No queues

In addition, we would be in the same league for several weeks. We can switch between servers Vabbi / Whiteside for GvG. The question is what to do by day for prime time. Spliting guilds will increase the population of Vabbi and Whiteside WvW. It will make it playable WvW morning with some decent actions. What this action will cause? For us? Good fun. For top servers? Let them zombie blob without cordinaction.

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Can you remove it? We dont care about that.

Your WvW players.

Daze.6914:

I pray PS will go down some tiers next week, was an awful matchup IMHO.

Its not that bad mate as it looks. Bigger blob, more lootbags. Atm i made more kills than in any other matchup. Making like almost 1k kill per day.

Anyway i dont want to PS be on Golden League. I dont want to fight few weeks with Vizunah and SFR zombie blobs. My brain want to stop working on this matchup.

Thx [Opt] for GvG, was fun.

Why staff need 8 ascended materials, half more mats, when GS/hammers need only 50% of what staff need ?

big what? update?

hahahahahaha

This was second stream, and second disappointment. I was expecting, something other, but, yeah. AN is still strong at punching players face.

bazinga

you will never see it on WvW. go to tower and make arrow rain!

thx AN. Great update!

at least you didint kitten up something

Jski.6180:

LotuS.4378:

Asudementio.8526:

LotuS.4378:

After i start watching this stream i got a little hope that something will change, and at least we will get some nice info, but after 2 min of stream i lost my hope. AN thinks that abilities on WvW are great, and trying to make them use by players. New orb will completly destroy GvG, and still like half of year till this orb. This is kinda pathetic.
Go play with your ability alone AN. Thx for destroying WvW.

Im done with this game. Everquest NEXT is next target.

It was funny when people started to spam about GvG, AN turned off stream. Well done. You dont care about players at all.

Don’t kid yourself, you would be going to everquest next regardless. Some people just don’t like games and force themselves to play them as they wait for the next one to come and disappoint them.

No.

Im playing WvW for 9 months now, AND ONLY WVW. I dont play PvE,sPvP – im more mass pvp player. Im just sad that AN is ignoring hardcore guilds – which they are making fun on your WvW. Most of people here, runing randomly on zombie zergs 1h per 3 days – so yeah, for that kind of ppl WvW is some kind of fun. I was expecting from today livestream something more, insted of listening how COOL abilities are, when they are not.

I said that on other topic. Im still here, cuz of my guild – nothing more, nothing less. Im pretty sure, that on new game with mass pvp + GvG system, borders on GW2 will be empty.

Was said also, Dev today ignored people – that pretty much how AN care about WvW players.

And its lost its newness to you that all your just a fair weather player like all the rest of the wvw who “switch” when there world not doing well you just switching on games .

I was playing Lineage 2 on Bartz even when L2 was p2p, cant even count how many years i spend on this game, and how much fun i got it. So dont try to tell me that im serching for something new. When im playing game im puting max efforts on that. GW2 is more like, changes are not coming, bascilly we already know, that there will be no GvG in next 1-2 years, so why you think that people when know that, want to lose thier time on it ? No logic on it.

I was looking at your server, your guild. Pretty much i got what i wanted. Casual 400+ guild. Also looked at your guild profile on GvG. http://gw2gvg.com/guild.php?id=120

pretty sad.

pot.6805:

LotuS.4378:

pot.6805:

Thanks for the video, got to see a lot of the mastery abilities I’ve never seen before and the tease at the new “orb” mechanic was cool. There is still work to be done but thank you for doing livestreams for us.

it will destroy GvG – so WvW kaput boy.

lol lets hold the histrionics until we see what it actually entails. You are assuming it is a zone wide buff that you are automatically given or can’t be removed.

why you lol?

you still dont understand that hardcore GvG guild, making community of WvW and leading them on servers, imagine what will happen when most of them will leave, and you will be on border with bunch of zombie blobs, without commanders and any communication or core guilds. Simply your loved blobing will end pretty fast on PvE.

And orb will block GvG or will make it much longer cuz of neutralizing.

pot.6805:

Thanks for the video, got to see a lot of the mastery abilities I’ve never seen before and the tease at the new “orb” mechanic was cool. There is still work to be done but thank you for doing livestreams for us.

it will destroy GvG – so WvW kaput boy. Guild stop playing WvW, you dont have karma train.

Asudementio.8526:

LotuS.4378:

After i start watching this stream i got a little hope that something will change, and at least we will get some nice info, but after 2 min of stream i lost my hope. AN thinks that abilities on WvW are great, and trying to make them use by players. New orb will completly destroy GvG, and still like half of year till this orb. This is kinda pathetic.
Go play with your ability alone AN. Thx for destroying WvW.

Im done with this game. Everquest NEXT is next target.

It was funny when people started to spam about GvG, AN turned off stream. Well done. You dont care about players at all.

Don’t kid yourself, you would be going to everquest next regardless. Some people just don’t like games and force themselves to play them as they wait for the next one to come and disappoint them.

No.

Im playing WvW for 9 months now, AND ONLY WVW. I dont play PvE,sPvP – im more mass pvp player. Im just sad that AN is ignoring hardcore guilds – which they are making fun on your WvW. Most of people here, runing randomly on zombie zergs 1h per 3 days – so yeah, for that kind of ppl WvW is some kind of fun. I was expecting from today livestream something more, insted of listening how COOL abilities are, when they are not.

I said that on other topic. Im still here, cuz of my guild – nothing more, nothing less. Im pretty sure, that on new game with mass pvp + GvG system, borders on GW2 will be empty.

Was said also, Dev today ignored people – that pretty much how AN care about WvW players.

R.I.P Guild Wars 2 WvW

After i start watching this stream i got a little hope that something will change, and at least we will get some nice info, but after 2 min of stream i lost my hope. AN thinks that abilities on WvW are great, and trying to make them use by players. New orb will completly destroy GvG, and still like half of year till this orb. This is kinda pathetic.
Go play with your ability alone AN. Thx for destroying WvW.

Im done with this game. Everquest NEXT is next target.

It was funny when people started to spam about GvG, AN turned off stream. Well done. You dont care about players at all.

dunno what you done Arena, but kittenING LAG EVERYWHERE

after removing culling on pve this game is UNPLAYABLE

Aneu.1748:

PvE in GW2 is an absolutley pointless venture because other games can and will do it better. FFXIV:ARR – Wildstar – Rift – WoW – The Secret World – ESO all have or will have superior PvE to GW2. GW2’s venture into the PVE realm should never have been its main focus, its a game that should be focused around combat and promoting player combat – it is such a sad state of affairs when a game like this loses its way.

Agree. They should follow the way was GW1 with PvP, insted of focusing in PvE, which in 2014 PvE in GW2 will surly die, cuz of games you mentioned.

Slomo.1029:

Aneu.1748:

The loyalty that can be built up by community managers and developers in a game is a hugely powerful tool and has kept people playing games for a very long time indeed. If Anet or more specifically Devon was able to understand this and garner the support required then when the next fluffy game comes out that supports (I use this word lightly, it simply means “includes”) world PvP like GW2 then you can bet that a lot of people would put this kind of invaluable developmental support at the forefront of their minds and possibly play something else for a little while but always return to GW2, currently this kind of loyalty isnt a prolific feeling amongst many of the WvW community and as such the only thing to keep people coming back is the fact the game is B2P – not because of loyalty to the company, the people or the game.

I totally agree on that. Binding people to your game was surely easier a few years ago because the F2P model wasnt a big thing. But its still possible.
However ArenaNET realised this in their PvE department and reacted to feedback slowly, but accordingly and look at the progress they made there. The Living Story content is well made, regular and free. Interesting story behind every event keeps people interested in what happens next. The fact they distribute weapon skins on RNG is bad, but I’ll give them that because they need money.

Now compare it to the PvP/WvW progress and you’ll realise that to build a trustful relationship to this community is plainly impossible within the time left until the next big MMO. At least at the rate of progress we had in the past.
They would need to put 5 times the manpower into WvW and they would need to do it right now. Otherwise Wildstar (or whatever game is next) will come out before the developers learn the ropes of this gamemode(s).
Lets be real here, one year of getting declined…people want a whole lot to happen by now. Not only something random like colour changes, siege weapon masterys or traps. ANet needs to catch up on the needs from the past year and put a cherry on top now. Otherwise I dont see a bright future for WvW.

And its not really Devons fault. Ofc he could give a lot more insight in the stuff they are doing/thinking. But 1st he probably isn’t allowed to and 2nd it would reveal how much(or little) power they have within the company. His latest respones about WvW being only one small piece of the game, made clear that he is fed up with the situation he is in. He cant promise anything big because his team cant realise it.
I can imagine that the WvW team is thinking of amazing things and has good ideas how to fix stuff and make the game better as a whole. Sadly they dont have the manpower to realise any of this. And probalby dont get the manpower scheduled by managers because Living Story weapon skins are the $$$ these days.

Isnt this a little strange? WvW is part of the games as a Living Story. In my opinion it looks like, they didint expect, or dont want to expect that players/guilds etc spending 90% of thier time in game in WvW, so its pretty natural they want to change. As WvW is part of the game, and to be honest at the beginning they were “proud” of WvW, now they changing thier minds, removing manpower from WvW to Living Story, and saying to WvW player, that we should go play PvE, cuz on WvW nothing will change. Honestly i dont know what to think about this. Im losing my “power” to play, not due that i play alot, but i know that any major changes to WvW will never come out, or will when the population of WvW players, will be less than 20/30%. The thing that im playing this game (90% WvW) is just my guild/friends, insted of that i would quite long time ago.

Any major changes to WvW will not come out, Devon is saying we should play PvE. Dunno how you guys, but im disappointed, and the thing im here right now is that theres no other games right now. I just hope, that some day AN will change thier minds, and will start working on WvW, but who know if we will still be here.

Aneu.1748:

DevonCarver.5370:

Equinox.4195:

So, in regards to GvG and openfield, I don’t see a lot of “rampant speculation” going on. If nothing else, you chose your words poorly. The complaints about this new system potentially killing the GvG scene is entirely grounded.

This forum and this topic in particular are about WvW. WvW is about sieging and controlling objectives and about open field combat. All our changes are with that totality in mind and will continue to be.

I am exceptionally disappointed to see how narrow-minded and ignorant a developer can become. Rather than supporting an emergent game-play style you respond to this topic with what must be one of the worst possible responses I have seen from you yet.

Let me correct you on your glaringly obvious mistake and possibly educate you in the way you require. World vs World is what the players want it to be, not what it may have been designed for, not what you believe it to be, not what you scream from the top of your lungs what you wish it to be… it is what PLAYERS want it to be. If players didn’t want there to be GvG then guess what? There wouldn’t be GvG but there is a large scene for it now and to what must be your utter disbelief – huge swathes of servers actually have pride in the guilds that represent them in both WvW and GvG.

If you understood the above and actually realised that we, the players who focus on World vs World and want to actually fight other players (not bunker inside keeps), are not happy at all with the way we have been dealt with for quite some time then you may actually begin to build bridges, however with the above statement it is quite obvious that you are oblivious to much of what is occurring in the world of World vs World at the moment (Oh I’m sure you can read your metrics, well done).

You may also wish to understand that with the lack of any direct competition with other games at the moment GW2 does hold dominance in this area but that is not through great support for the WvW community, it is because as I said, there is a dire lack of competition and I can assure you that once said competition comes out you may wish to hold onto your seat because I can assure you that your community will shrink and quite drastically.

I have kept off the forum for quite some time, ever since your complete disaster of implementing Arrowcart changes and so on but I simply couldn’t help myself in responding to this reply. Hopefully you will see the light – I wont hold my breath however.

Yours faithfully,
Aneu

Your post is nice, i can sign on it, but we know that speaking with Anet will not change even single things. We just need to wait for new game.

DevonCarver.5370:

We will be adding more liquid WXP that will be purchasable, likely with badges and some other currency, soon. As in, less than a month. I’ve made it a personal goal to improve the experience for playing alts in WvW. And to cut it off now, we are not making WvW rank account bound.

soon SOON S O O N S O O N S OOOOOOoo NNNNN

SOOOOONNNNNN

Players : Anet, what are you going to do for us?
Anet/Devon : You got your fantastic siege skills. We have much more. 1 new skill per month, isnt it lot of changes?
Players : Anet, what are you going to do for us?
Anet/Devon : We are working on many things, should be released at 2150.
Players : Anet, what are you going to do for us?
Anet/Devon : Completly nothing, you dumb kitteners. Stop playing WvW, go rock’n’roll in Living Story.

end of story.

DevonCarver.5370:

Gadzooks.4687:

This is how I translate this most of this response:

My statement doesn’t require translation. WvW is a part of GW2, it is not its own game, it is not a standalone product and it is not separate from the game. Your characters from WvW are usable in PvE and vice-versa for a reason. I love WvW and prefer it to the rest of our game, but I still go and run Living World content when I feel like it. The idea is that all of our players create an ecosystem that is interdependent. If players only played one or the other, each area would be less compelling and less fun. Sure, there are some number of people who only play WvW, but more people play the rest of the game as well. If people had to pick which to play WvW would have fewer people playing it, period. Don’t confuse my belief that our game is better the more people you find around you with some sort of slighting of WvW or a statement that WvW is second best. I focus my efforts entirely on WvW every day of the week and I will continue to do so. We want everyone who buys our game to play as much of all the parts of the game they enjoy because that is what we do.

it look like, you want us to play PvE, but its not working/people dont want to play pve.

ColinJohanson.2394:

We won’t have a major presence at Gamescom this year no, though a number of senior staff will be flying out to attend the community party that weekend at Gamescom to meet everyone and share a few beers. Make sure to stop by if you’re there for the show!

Somewhat related, if you’re even thinking of being in the Seattle are this year during PAX: you absolutely will not want to miss our ArenaNet PAX event. Not only will it include our PvP championship live on stage, we’ll have some other reveals you’re not going to want to miss…stay tuned! (and no the reveal is not an expansion!)

if it will not be GvG System as a WvW players want, then no1 care.

WOW great update….not

like always kitten.

till the kittening end every update will give us only mastery? wtf is wrong with this company?

Chiolas.1326:

aspirine.6852:

LotuS.4378:

np guys, few more months till Wildstar.

Great, another wow look a like. no thanks.

And ran by NCSoft, the same company that has too few people (or maybe just Devon) working on WvW

Devon is from ArenaNet, the company behind WS is http://www.carbinestudios.com/en/about-us/

“Now, we’re not dissing the last round of online games. We can’t – we worked on a lot of them: titles like World of Warcraft, Everquest 1 and 2, Warhammer Online, City of Heroes, Free Realms, Diablo II, StarCraft. We’ve also had our hands in some other games you might recognize, like Fallout, Metroid Prime, and…well, you get the point.”

Vena.8436:

This treb mastery is pretty much OP but that may or may not be a good thing because it will certainly speed up the supply draining of keeps (even a havoc squad will now wreck your supply if left alone). The increased blasts are better than a range increase but they will make Bay even more worthless as a keep as I’m pretty sure those trebs will be untouchable from below now (can still be hit from the side). The rest of the usual treb spots won’t change much since most of them were already “safe” spots.

Can’t hide in your keeps anymore.

LotuS.4378:

np guys, few more months till Wildstar.

I’m not sure I get the idea here… W* doesn’t have RvR.

WS got 20v20 and 40v40 GvG.
WS got battleground with multiple system starting from 10v10/15v15 etc.
WS got arenas 5v5
WS got guild fortresses, when you can modificate a terrain,building and others in there.

So yeah, WS > GW2 at this time.

Yeah, it look, like WoW, but so far nothing better with “good” PvP system. I dont like the graphic there also, but still for GvG i will do anything.

SkylightMoon.1980:

I was reading through a lot of the posts you guys had, and Mr. Carver has been kind enough to respond and answer questions that you pose to him. However a lot of the replies are still uncalled for, whether its sarcasm or just a low blow at his qualifications.

Most active players that spends 95% of thier time for WvW, are getting frustrated after all those months. After fixing culling on WvW, there no any “big” changes to WvW. After all those months they are giving us only some masterys, that are getting ridiculous after every month. Carver is lead designer of WvW if im right, so he is “boss” there. Everything that is done for WvW is going thru his hands. First guy who was on the lead got fired or puted to another things.

“Hardcore” or “semi-hardcore” players, that playing everyday for like 4-5h in WvW for victory, dosent really care about you SkylightMoon, since you playing prolly only 1-2h every 2 days, and you dont care bascilly whats going on in WvW.

np guys, few more months till Wildstar.

DevonCarver.5370:

New maps take a long time to be built. And even once they are built it takes a long time to get them tested until they are ready to be released. Rest assured, as soon as we can release new maps, we will. And, while it isn’t an entirely new map, you can look forward to some changes to the borderlands soon. Let’s just say you should get your krait killing in now.

Its like always. “takes time”, “test” or “soon”.

its getting bored. What will you do soon? Remove mobs from borders? Great changes!

Castaliea.3156:

Come on baby, look at all this shiny new Living Story content just for you.

Yup we got new BORDER!

Go blob the Pavilon.

dunny why you post here guys, since AN dont even read those posts. To be honest theres no WvW team on An anymore. kitten WvW go Living Story!

so when AN will start update WvW? 2015?2016?

i know its hard job, since you need 1 month per 1 skill, but hey! maybe more ppl for WvW , and less for living usless story.

Darkened.4076:

Ins.7139:

AM were running separate groups in AM BL, they had 2-3 guilds out and about and a blob. Same for Deso, had EXG, Coin and then me leading 30-35 as a pug group. PS had INC, Dsun. Was some fun fights Afew other guilds out and about also.

You missed the part where Coin wiped two servers at once.

And of course, were all ripped as f***

How about GvG 20v20?

Yes, but AN decided to put update every 2 weeks, so right now we will have new siege mastery every 2 week? Till 2020? This is getting bad. Where are Orbs? They told that find a soluction for it. Same for new MAP, still nothing, 0 info, not even a single post from AN. Check General/spvp or living story topics, and how AN is responding.

dunno what the point playing 1v1 on wvw. go spvp.

Moon.6371:

I`m just dropping in to tell you guys how much I`m appreciating the discussion in this thread, it certainly is one of the more intelligent threads in this forum with lots of truth in it.

I`m personally agreeing with almost everything Jscull wrote, except the conclusion of giving enhanced player stats to long time players. As an avid starcraft player for almost a decade now, I just can`t cope with the idea of artificially enhancing one`s chances to win a fight just because he/she played for a longer time. It`s against everything what PvP stands for in my opinion.

Best regards

To bad that moderators deleting post that telling proofs, about WvW and WvW designer, who is basiclly doing nothing for WvW in last few months/weeks.

Wondering why they dont even replay in this thread? Easy. They dont care, and prolly nothing will change. Its better to add some PvE festivals for casuals.

Dirven.3021:

This match-up is so easy. The only challenge for Desolation here is Abaddon. The rest is just so weak.. they’re not worth mentioning.

Why all your “organized” group in 30+ always runing away from our group 20/25 ppl? And after few mins coming back with 3-4 groups making blobb 70+?

Oh right. Its Desoblobadon.

.

you wanna bet that AN is not even looking into topics of WvW and, they will even dont look into this topic, since whole this company dont care about WvW?

deal with it. we need to wait for new game like wildstar.

Yeah moderator. Its better to delete posts that telling proofs about your crapy company, and about “care” of WvW.

AphoticEssance.7592:

More PvE crap? Really?? I am getting tired of WvW being ignored in this game. This game is starting to become stale.

It’s more like this. Since culing update, there’s no any “good” update for WvW. I mean WXP and other things like that are small update that dosent require much work from player, and basiclly doing nothing more, that even enemy wont see your title on zerg/blob or anything.

We already know that we will not get GvG system/map since AN is afraid that it will “destroy” thier e-delusion sport tpvp. But for every 2 weeks, or every month we will get some crapy skills that bascilly no1 using? Since they buffed a little Guard killer/def some ppl start to using it, but others skills are completly usless. Im just wondering what excatly doing our lovely WvW designer. If this is all what AN have to present to WvW, imo this is over. Prolly next new games, will make borders empty.

This is ridiculous, how much PvE kittened content AN doing, that no1 who is playing WvW active not doing this. Im border of this WvW after all those months.

Imo they should delete WvW from this game. No point to play it.

VOLKON.1290:

This is actually a really nice update for WvW when you look at it. Badges of Honor no longer taking up space? Thank you ANet! (Looks like they’ll all be across the entire account too.) Cleaning up the visuals in WvW? Thanks again! That will help nicely. Give them some credit, these little quality of life changes are nice.

Account Wallet for Currency
Keep all of your currencies in one easy-to-find location! This Wallet holds dungeon tokens, coins, karma, laurels, Guild Commendations, Fractal Relics, Badges of Honor, gems, and glory and makes them accessible to any character on your account. Upon logging in with each unique character for the first time after the Wallet has gone live, that character will have all of their currencies deposited into the account-wide collection.

Improved Effects Level of Detail System
Effects like fireballs, streaks that trail behind a sword, players’ footsteps, and even the fiery breath of dragons are all part of the beauty of Guild Wars 2. In situations where all of that beauty can start to take away from the visual clarity of the battlefield, this new system will slowly start reducing the detail of each effect in order to increase combat visibility when many effect types are overlapping. When action gets intense in dungeons, PvP, the open world, and WvW, this system will let you see more of the action.

Permanent Finishers
We’re adding support for permanent Finishers! With this release, you’ll be able to sort through your available Finishers and choose the one you’d like to use as a default. Change your mind and change your Finisher! Rank up for rank Finishers, or keep an eye on the Gem Store for a new selection of Finishers. Finishers can be used in both PvP and WvW!

1. After all those months, to be honest no1 care anymore about this.
2. Less FPS.
3. Also, for roaming parties, duels 1v1.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/august-06-2013/

hip hip huray. Another big update for WvW.

thx AN.

Any1 is working for WvW in this company? What is doing leader of WvW designer?

[INC] still got free Tuesday/Thursday for GvG. Who want some fun? 20v20. [FG] can bring even 25 while we will be 20.

sorry to hear that [FG] is afraid.

Ins.7139:

Leading a deso pain train, any guilds that think we suck come face me open field, bring as many guilds or as many people as you like, time to show you we aint kitten in openfield

[EXG] is up for some GvG 20v20 ?

Rapsod.4629:

ohh this piken… they are so pro they dont even need to fight blobs they just wipe everything … since they are bored now of noob blobs they gonna take a break ingame and trash talk in forums so we all see how pro they are ……. I really miss vizunah……. deso fights way better under pressure, also for the record in the past few days we also got lots of new ppl in wvwvw and they just run around like flys without heads……and please stop QQ about blobs blame it on ArenaNet they made game in this way…. if you wanna fight then get on and lets fight, otherwise go cry somewhere else…….

It’s kinda funny to read post from random pugzords. Deso showed how they are good “under preassure”. When your mighty blobb is owned by one PS guild, in magic way you are going to change border. On last week, on every border your blob was runing away from PS organized groups, so please dont tell me that Deso is doing good under preassure. Most of morning/prime time you are being pushed to your borders, and just simply changing borders if its to hard for your 70+ blobbs. Sorry to say, but you are great forum warriors, nothing more. Keep dreaming that you deserve wining or so. Im pretty sure, if PS would find any night shift your mighty server prolly would be crushed.

Sry boy, its not a hate, just pure truth. Most of your lets call it “normal players” know, that you are wining just bcuz night shift. Fine for me, win it again, most of ppl dont care. Your e-kitten is now big.

Vanz.5976:

Daze.6914:

[FG] have you really transferred to Desolation???

If this is true, FG vs INC GvG is gonna be EPIC!!!!!!

so far no. [FG] dont want gvg

Thanks to [INVI] for GvG, and after for some nice fights.

Next month, next disappoint on Engineer patch info.

Another month, another usless change to WvW. Go home DevonCarver, you are drunk. When we will get something nice in WvW? Like GvG map/new borderlands?