Guild Wars 2

Troma.3250:

Sadly a CTA is not a long term solution… and it’s massive work for me. Btw i do not understand why you say it with sarcasm

Maybe because we know you aren’t innocent, you are anticipating major problems for us again; you think Anet is going to destroy again SFR. Yes, I’m still convinced that was free transfers, not your “call to arms”, that solved your 5 (five) consecutive defeats against us (yes Kingface, I did it again, I managed a way to talk again the 5-0).

To the people thinking to transfer to SFR. TOOK ME 3H 45M TO GET IN EB MAP ON SUDAY, HAVING YOUR COMMANDER TAG UP DON’T SPEED UP THE PROCESS.

This is my goodbye of this thread. To PS and ER I wish they keep enjoining WWW, but please don’t forget watt WWW it’s about.

To all SFR, we had very good weeks, but this week is special, I think never so few have done so much. I see SFR is a community that wants to respect people time, and gold spend, and also want that everyone have fun playing the game, I know there is price to pay, I’m willing to pay it, and I pay it every day in the queue to EB map.

Many thanks for your commitment, it’s not easy getting WP’s in SM, or in Overlook, at this level. To all my brooders and sisters, all our bonds are stronger than ever, that’s our main weapon and we will use it.

PS1: This only represents my view.
PS2: Sorry to disturb you with WWW maters on a GvG thread.

Leman Russ.5143:

Grok.6714:

AngelsShadow.7360:

Grok.6714:

Apparently the oh-so-professional Piken guilds cannot handle defeats in GvG and choose to run under fake guild names whenever they face a real challange.

Is this daily business on that server?

I am a little confused about this.. Which guilds? Also, are you sure you didn’t misread the guild tag or something as there are many, many guilds on Piken who run in WvW.

Ask Noobfilter. The guild seems pretty versed in GvG 20v20. Wonder why I haven’t seen them on the battlefield yet

my question is why ZD´s rejected the challenge from MYA, but accepted the gvg against noobfilters?

The name? Noob…filters

Vayle.7964:

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

Romek.4201:

Most skilled enemys in solo play i found on piken.
SFR ppl are all the same zombies – #1 spamming staff guardians, should you find one outside from a big monsterblob, running straight to you and use all utilities + virtues same time and after 10 sec they jump like naked rabids to their zerg^^ – ALWAYS.
And never saw so much phantasm mesmers before. Spawning all the AI-mobs and running for their life – seriously.

calm down guyz you dont get more skill while talking bout – show it^^

until now – sfr is just the multinternational vizunah, boring to fight and running for everything like a zombie but not calling brains – they call “Poiiiiiiiiiintzzzzzzzzzz”

plz anet lock this guyz with vizunah in a special league

thx

Yeh dont bother with us, many of us play with WWW builds, we dont run with PvP builds like you.

Be smart and go to PvP you are in the wrong place.

mate, not everyone wants to blindly follow a commander and spam 1 on their guardian staff or whatever profession you play and weapon you user. show a bit of respect for people who rather play in small groups or alone.
if you think WvW is meant for blob vs blob, well thats your thing, but ever noticed that if you have smaller group fights there never is skill lagg?

what matters on who has the biggest kittening blob, or who wins how. it’s a game and its all about enjoying yourselves and having fun. if you like to roam in a small group or do raids with 10 people, do that, if you like to mindlessly follow a commander and spam 1 on your weapon, do so, but stop the kittening wining!

big props to all SFR and ER players that roam in smaller groups, its really fun to fight you. if you are running somewhat between 5 and 10 people, you can find VG tomorrow on SFR borders. I hope for some good fights rather than “charge into the blob and create oranges” :P

Dear Commander and Guild Leader.

1st I have the commander tag so my opinion it’s not only as a follower, of course I understand the logic of small groups or roomers, if they intend to escort dolys or flip camps, but this “warriors” talking here just go to WWW with PvP builds, just to kill other players, not to get any points, like the old scheme of the sentinel ambush.

It’s very strange that you are a commander and don’t know your main force should have builds for WWW, and you try to discuss that.

Just one more time, WWW isn’t PvP, WWW isn’t GvG, but you can do want ever you want to do.

Dayra.7405:

Luna.9640:

Jayne.9251:

I’m so confused, lol. We got our thread back?

Yes !

It got moved to get cleansed out and its back after i contacted the local Forum Authorities xD

So please everyone keep it calm this time.

And no hacking accusations. An email about a deleted reply I got indicates that the arrow-cart discussion was the reason for the clean-up.

And yeah, secondary goal already reached: We denied SFR the points to move ahead of Vizu. We even trashed enough night-build T3 to be even temporarly ahead of SFR.
Now to the primary goal: Get ahead of Piken! (The SFR waypoint in Overlook is useful, thanks)

For Elona!!

For Elona? You mean for VS?
Were you the guy with the German and French flags?
Lots of vomits in all communities.

The WP in Overlook, says all.

Kingface.9781:

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

milton.1796:

Umad.7528:

milton.1796:

How a normal day in Piken borderlands looks.
Constant SFR/ER blob zergs while we dont have enough, we must be “losing” by all this great “skill”.

Do we have to feel sorry for you or something? Cant help it that you cant get the numbers.

No your servers like to believe they are really “skilled”.
Far from the truth.

I’m confused. Isn’t you clamming that you are losing because we have the numbers, so Piken it’s the skilled server.

Conclusion, you think you are the skilled server. But you are wrong. Let me explain why.

SFR was some of the best guilds that are in the game (I don’t belong to any one of them), that play in BL’s, so we can have strong maps there if guilds don’t slack.

SFR EB map as some of the best commanders in the game (criteria is they can excel all the components a commander should achieve), we have many very good and good commanders (I’m not included, I just look for the list that is in TS and I don’t tag up).

EB has also a strong base of pugs (I like to include myself here) that know watt to do, atm we also have high numbers of new people, some of them belong to other servers and I don’t know if they interested to learn, or if they are here just for Karma and WXP.

I like the fun of the open fights, but WWW it’s to play for points, 24/7, I don’t complain also about the siege, the siege it’s there in the game to use offensively and defensively (once again any commander that don’t use the zerg to siege a structure that he want to keep it’s a bad commander).

It’s the group dynamic that dictates success in WWW, commander included, watt really meaning is if the build that I’m using its going to help my group, not if I’m capable of winning a duel. Watt we are talking here it’s about groups.

Dude, you and your forum warriors stayed stucked at that time when SFR was composed only by guilds and “beated VS 5 times in a row” like you pleased to remember it as much as possible.

Now you’re just the shadow of yourself (by “you” I mean SFR of course, not you personnaly). That’s what all these wannabe-trollers like Wemil don’t get.

Last results beteween VS and us 1-1 (the week where you, not your server, are at beach still count).

Present scores:
VS – 1.950.944
SFR – 1.945.379

We leave in the past? Ok.
Do you think we are forcing anything to have theis results? No we aren’t. We have very low numbers (EB map not included).

Romek.4201:

Most skilled enemys in solo play i found on piken.
SFR ppl are all the same zombies – #1 spamming staff guardians, should you find one outside from a big monsterblob, running straight to you and use all utilities + virtues same time and after 10 sec they jump like naked rabids to their zerg^^ – ALWAYS.
And never saw so much phantasm mesmers before. Spawning all the AI-mobs and running for their life – seriously.

calm down guyz you dont get more skill while talking bout – show it^^

until now – sfr is just the multinternational vizunah, boring to fight and running for everything like a zombie but not calling brains – they call “Poiiiiiiiiiintzzzzzzzzzz”

plz anet lock this guyz with vizunah in a special league

thx

Yeh dont bother with us, many of us play with WWW builds, we dont run with PvP builds like you.

Be smart and go to PvP you are in the wrong place.

Dawdler.8521:

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

Conclusion, you think you are the skilled server.

Of course Piken think its a skilled server. Wtf are we supposed to think when equal sized forces flee before us, refusing to do battle? That we stink? Look, that may be the case but it still inflate our self-esteem to legendary heights.

Just suport that with numbers. I know why you are so full of yourselfs losing so badly like this week. You are geting some points in BL’s.

SFR is doing a miracle this week, geting this result with our numbers, but thas internal afairs to discuss bettewn us.

A leave just a message here. People that want to play against Vabbi should live SFR, or move to Vabbi.

Bogey.5423:

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

@Bleed
Give up don’t try to explain, they don’t understand, but you show that I’m right when I respect VS, because you guys have many people that love the game, and WWW, like we do.

I like to ride my high horse sometimes too.

For start you need to have a horse, right now I only see you in a poney.

milton.1796:

Umad.7528:

milton.1796:

How a normal day in Piken borderlands looks.
Constant SFR/ER blob zergs while we dont have enough, we must be “losing” by all this great “skill”.

Do we have to feel sorry for you or something? Cant help it that you cant get the numbers.

No your servers like to believe they are really “skilled”.
Far from the truth.

I’m confused. Isn’t you clamming that you are losing because we have the numbers, so Piken it’s the skilled server.

Conclusion, you think you are the skilled server. But you are wrong. Let me explain why.

SFR was some of the best guilds that are in the game (I don’t belong to any one of them), that play in BL’s, so we can have strong maps there if guilds don’t slack.

SFR EB map as some of the best commanders in the game (criteria is they can excel all the components a commander should achieve), we have many very good and good commanders (I’m not included, I just look for the list that is in TS and I don’t tag up).

EB has also a strong base of pugs (I like to include myself here) that know watt to do, atm we also have high numbers of new people, some of them belong to other servers and I don’t know if they interested to learn, or if they are here just for Karma and WXP.

I like the fun of the open fights, but WWW it’s to play for points, 24/7, I don’t complain also about the siege, the siege it’s there in the game to use offensively and defensively (once again any commander that don’t use the zerg to siege a structure that he want to keep it’s a bad commander).

It’s the group dynamic that dictates success in WWW, commander included, watt really meaning is if the build that I’m using its going to help my group, not if I’m capable of winning a duel. Watt we are talking here it’s about groups.

@Bleed
Give up don’t try to explain, they don’t understand, but you show that I’m right when I respect VS, because you guys have many people that love the game, and WWW, like we do.

Dayra.7405:

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

Holm.7058:

If only there was still some honor and chivalry in this WvW community. Only the vizunah players on the forum have the decency to congratulate and compliment their opponents if they win.

Its a lie. See my post on last week.

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

Congratulations to VS and PS.

…

For me was a slack week, …

I am amused

And I’m happy, finaly I got the time to get my legendary:)
Next time let people see all my post, not telling that we lose because the others, cheat, blob, or skill lag, but because we didnt played well.

Slack from WWW for me=still played many hours.

Samstein.5269:

Situation on SFR atm: Alot of people thinks that wvw guilds such as CoN, KoA, DoRF, Opt,ECL etc are playing too much open fieldfights and not caring about points. The members of these guilds are trying to convince some unsatisfied players in the community that everything is for the server.

Last night I was on sfr bl and I saw CoN,KoA and DoRF pushing and fighting against outnumbered GD towards Elona spawn, NEWS from Elona came later and helped GD but GD didnt try to join battles with NEWS, GD tried to avoid this imho but it seemed like it was hard for KoA and CoN not to merge even if it was unwillingly they have to fight unfairly to keep the points as long as possible.

Afaik throughout the night there were alot of fights between CoN and GD and I can´t say if it were even fights or who won what. The reason CoN doesnt want to SPARR with any guild is because there´s too much sparring and too few real GvG´s… It´s pretty stupid that so many guilds prefer to SPARR because they´re afraid to lose points in official GvG. I don´t think any guild can be ready for a real GvG with a short notice.

GD is definitely one of the top3 guilds in the world and it´s common sense to not treat them lightly..

Good luck on the battlefield and most importantly, have fun!

GD on Top3 world guilds, the other of course its PUG guild from SFR, and the other one is?

We don’t treat them lightly in EB. Just need to have a proper commander (We have a few that can do the job, sadly I’m not included).

GD isn’t expecting to do any GvG in EB map?

yiishing.9057:

Hebril Amolebin.9817:

It ws fun figthing you but the poor thing is when you lose few you rage and quit:D
I suppose stomping Opt in practice unofficial gvg lifted your mood?

You told us you were playing for points, so why should we bother fighting you with your arrow carts and cannons and portal gates in the back, when you had nearly twice our numbers (20vs35)? Go play for points and stuff, i’m sure Vizunah will approve of this.

Yes don’t play with Hebril. Keep coming to EB map, we will be nice to you.

But I think Hebril will try to chase you guys, we can’t guarantee anything.

Come on, it’s easy, only bad players in EB. Lots of bags for you and your friends.

Holm.7058:

If only there was still some honor and chivalry in this WvW community. Only the vizunah players on the forum have the decency to congratulate and compliment their opponents if they win.

Its a lie. See my post on last week.

Contiguous.1345:

Skill lag and rubber-banding up to several seconds is making it impossible to play this week.
It’s the sheer size of the SFR and ER blobs. Everything’s fine until you enter a combat area and then you can ‘feel’ the lag kick-in.

I think most of Piken have decided to skip this week, we only seem to have a handful of players on at any one time.
Not helped by the fact that at least two of our more popular pug commanders have taken the week off. There are people running around with tags up I’ve never heard of and without naming names, some of them are kitten useless. (not all, I hasten to add)

Oh, and yes. I was there in Garrison this morning. Whoever was using the zoom hack to destroy all our siege must be pretty proud of himself. 30+ against a half-dozen and you still need to cheat?

Please grow in server terms. Don’t start the map jumping so soon, you really dont scare us in EB map, and you lose lots of points in BL’s.

You want to talk about slacking? Talk with some players in our BL, outnumbered in weekend afternoon. SFR is the guilds paradise, and pugs hell. 2 or more hours to get in EB.

Please stop complaining with numbers and skill lag, maybe it helps you to check my posts to see how I deal with defeat, wen we lose its ourt fault, and some times wen we win we can do beter, lke now.

Just enjoy not having tons of AC’s inside our towers like we supose to have.

Same here, it’s boring to fight against you. Piken full zergs inside towers with tons of AC’s. You have a mouth full, but you are so far from us and VS.

ATM there is SFR and VS, and there is the rest. Bring watt ever you want to EB map, guilds, randoms, we really don’t care.

Congratulations to VS and PS.

@Victory I almost agree with everything you say here, and you raise very important issues.

When you play good opponents you must play well also, when I see that in a systematically form people don’t do watt they supposed to do day after day (proper sieging, playing defensive when they have to do it, proceed to repairs, try to motivate people to scout, etc) the result is going to be bad.

For me was a slack week, my final push to the legendary. We have to stop this behavior (blaming the others) when things got hard.

dani.1956:

Hahaha someone from vizunah told me they are often fighting 2x their no. ! So someone from ANET can check the CULING from vizunah server , i think its not fixed !

To much French wine? Joking.

It’s true SFR as 3 times VS numbers, no way you can win, we just slacking a bit. We have also flying golems. Wemil is working on a nuke golem version atm

Only good thing is we drop exoctics, soon if some one kills me, I will drop a legend…on the floor next to me:)

LFP to TA exp mode.

No one? Come on I need 2 runs to get Kudzu:( OK lets farm pirates.

Again a match betewen VS and SFR? Pure luck…or…

Looks like I’m going to give congratulations to VS this week.

Jayne.9251:

Yes. I watched Sabull dive into about 30 of you last night. Lol, he’s fearless

Died in 3 seconds. He as last more in group before.

Kingface.9781:

Many gratz to SFR for this amazing deserved victory.

That was a wonderful match-up with a lot of marvelous fights.

Very impressive. You are really the best EU server ever.

/bow

PS: I’m sick…

/bow
Tks mate. You guys will return for sure, and we need to to beter if we want to win.

romainette.2369:

gratz sfr for this well deserved victory
as troma said, vizu is not very good right now :

-we see some people coming with their lowest levels at prime time (i saw level 8 !)
- no karma train, hard fights : people move on to pve map (chaos events)
- lot of commanders are tired to be with only a small group listening
- no waiting list on any map even at prime, even on eb !
and in front of us we have sfr with a very strong commitment, with a nice coverage, nice fights !
gratz again sfr, you wanted this victory much more than vizu, so it s yours, and if vizu doesn’t wake up, you should stay number one for a while
necrotic kisses from vizunah

Many thanks you are one of the “old VS warriors” nice to see you here giving the congratulations to us.

We need to work a lot more, to deserve to be number 1, last night I have seen some new people in EB trying ro play the game, that give me hope.

One thing I’m certain VS will be back more stonger as usual, and we must be prepared.

Many thanks to all of you guys, that make this game entertaining (Deso included also).

To all people bashing Wemil:
Don’t be too fast judging Wemil, he is a great guy, he just does some golems rushes here on the forum to.

Helicity.3416:

Wemil.7052:

hopefully with coming structure will be able to split zergs into several groups:) and some free wxp pugs will probably leave:)

“Pugs” definitely come in various shapes and sizes. SFR has a really strong core of “pugs” that only play WvW, are on TS, do what they’re asked (and often scout towers etc. for commanders) and are generally an assets to our WvW strength.

And then there is a whole clump of randoms who just sorta do whatever, chase the commander tag and die a lot because they are not on TS.

Hopefully the latter category will (if they enjoy WvW) eventually evolve to join the former, or just leave.

I do feel it’s important for commanders to take an inclusive stance (i.e. “hey guys, come join us on TS and get more bags!”) rather than an exclusive one (i.e…. aliendreamer on a bad day raging at them on TS, where they can’t hear him but he kitten es off the good pugs)
. Being exclusive and elitist is pointless if you need these bodies in order to hold the whole map.

Overall I feel WvW on SFR is generally in a good spot, and I personally have a lot of fun with it almost every day.

Nice picture, but not true. If we don’t have the usual scouts in EB, watt you see its empty towers, everyone knows this including other servers, they know and play according to this.

Yes its true I can’t blame only the pugs, everyone knows that is commander job to motivate people to scout, have the proper siege in the proper locations, make sure the upgrades are done in the correct order, and take care of the repairs (another day after one attack, the zerg left the door open, keep chasing on the map, and after several warning about the state of the door, only 2 of us running provisions to repair, I left the map. Once again we have lots of new people, that only want WXP and Karma, we must explain them that this not the place for them.
PS1: I’m a proud pug in EB
Many thanks to all VS and Deso that sincerely give their congratulations to us, as you see SFR is not a “garden of roses” but I believe we can improve, we just need time. We are just a bunch of guys, playing in different servers, that love the same game, no need to insult anyone.

@Troma, you have problems with some of new people; imagine watt happened when we got invaded after free transfers, at the same time we lost many guilds, and many of the guilds that stay just want to go down from tier 1 (one crazy dude=me refused to accept that, and wants to fight, and if we go down we will, but fighting).

PS2: But I’m proud that I’m in a democratic server, because at the time and don’t have the commander tag, but Drq put me in the guild/commanders meeting.

DevonCarver.5370:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

DevonCarver.5370:

The mats will absolutely drop in WvW. In addition, generally speaking, we are putting a heavier emphasis on finding long-term solutions to redressing the reward imbalance between PvE and WvW. I can’t claim they will ever be 100% equal all the time, but we would like it to never be the case that you are choosing between playing WvW and getting good rewards. The two should be one in the same.

Upgrade the rank chests to include one guaranteed rare like world boss chests, and hook us up with dungeon tokens from rank/champion chests and random drops so we can get our cool-looking armor and legendaries without grinding PvE content. Or at least let us buy tokens with badges of honor if that’s easier to implement. That’d be a good start.

Then add some more cool finishers to the gem store so we have something to throw money at.

Again, we haven’t made any decisions, but this is very much an avenue I’d like us to travel down.

Just be careful with the cliff.

You nerfed again the rewards in WWW (badges are one evidence) and came here to talk about balance?

DevonCarver.5370:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

DevonCarver.5370:

The mats will absolutely drop in WvW. In addition, generally speaking, we are putting a heavier emphasis on finding long-term solutions to redressing the reward imbalance between PvE and WvW. I can’t claim they will ever be 100% equal all the time, but we would like it to never be the case that you are choosing between playing WvW and getting good rewards. The two should be one in the same.

Upgrade the rank chests to include one guaranteed rare like world boss chests, and hook us up with dungeon tokens from rank/champion chests and random drops so we can get our cool-looking armor and legendaries without grinding PvE content. Or at least let us buy tokens with badges of honor if that’s easier to implement. That’d be a good start.

Then add some more cool finishers to the gem store so we have something to throw money at.

Again, we haven’t made any decisions, but this is very much an avenue I’d like us to travel down.

Just be careful with the cliff.

You nerfed again the rewards in WWW (badges are one evidence) and came here to talk about balance?

The badge drop rate it’s ridiculous low again (the drops compared to the Chaos or Pavilion are pathetic). If someone belongs to a guild with not to many people involved in WWW, and as a commander tag like me, we must go to the new content to farm gold to buy blueprints, to make superior siege. I’m sure no one thinks in these issues when they make the changes, and it’s so sad they have the power to do these changes.

PS: Wen I’m farming gold that I need to play WWW, I can’t play WWW, need to say this, just in case…

SFR

We know you guys will fight untill the end.
But thanks @Leocyrn and I think /cough @Kingface.

39K diference are we going to lose this one?

Victory.2879:

Good to see the idea of small roaming teams/thiefs killing dollies/capping camps has been removed from SFR entirely. Guild groups seem to think this is always someone else’s job and only bother with a camp when they need supplies.

In the end it will be the cumulative difference in the scores, with Viz winning by 20-30k points- they know when they are outnumbered to at least try and flip camps and guards and try and keep supplies from allowing upgrades to keeps and towers until they ready to zerg.

Try to form a camp flipping or dolly killing team in, say, Viz borderland and get no replies, same in other BL and even in EB.

I’m almost tempted to blow the dust off my thief- ok, nothing will tempt me to do that, really.

Best part of this evening was on Gandara where my upscaled noob engineer beat a ‘general’ enemy necro- sometimes I think they buy these titles…

Come on!!! Everybody know that’s work for noobs! Only noobs or unskilled players do those sorts of things!!! Try to get someone to use a treb, and you will see how hard it is (yesterday 3 trebs from SM to WC, and two guys that had tag, using them, big noobs, one was me of course).
Escorting or scouting? Upgrading, flipping camps? Nah. Sunday only played a few hours, very sad with the way we are playing. Very good for my economy, instead of losing money in WWW, I’m winning money in Chaos.

The new theory “We lost it? Never mind it was paper”., it’s very funny. All structures are paper before we upgrade and defend. Every tower must have siege and at least 1 scout inside, including the weakest ones, when we retake a tower in our land, the 1st thing to do its put siege inside, not leaving without doing it.

SFR in EB, is in -1 state again.

Cheers:)

Our “War” it’s near the end, for these week, my compliments to ER an Deso. Hope to see you guys soon, have fun.

I hope I din’t ofend anyone off you. Best off luck for next week, don’t forget to play a litle of WWW.

Cheers all.

colesy.8490:

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

The only thing that is wrong here is that I think we should discuss our problems inside our community. Hebril Amolebin.9817 is always frontal, he says watt he thinks, I’m sure he and the new guild can talk, and yes he is a great commander, in a server where are many great ones (he can be a little elitist).

I’ve seen alien command like, once, and all he wanted was for people to … follow his orders. Where’s the elitism? People throw this word around a lot yet I don’t think many of them know what it means.

Agree.
@ Wemil. True. But he ins’t only one open field commander, he does a great job managing the map. Last time I was with him, lots of rage, we had GD on EB, and can’t be noobish (spaming skills? come on guys!), or we will be farmed.

So much concern from number 3 and 4 servers on the ladder, with the number 1 server (yes atm we are leading in points, VS is trying to push to not lose the lead, we like usual are just having fun, last night we did a Commander Rush at EB, more than twelve of us with tags, so much fun?)

Don’t be hurried with our version SFR 2.0, 3.0 or 1000.0, we don’t care, like my friend Shadow Guard says “We are SFR and we don’t afraid anyone!!!” .You should concern with your own servers, believe me, you have some major problems, and let the others solve theirs.

The only thing that is wrong here is that I think we should discuss our problems inside our community. Hebril Amolebin.9817 is always frontal, he says watt he thinks, I’m sure he and the new guild can talk, and yes he is a great commander, in a server where are many great ones (he can be a little elitist).

We are one international server and we have so many countries playing, we must accept and understand the cultural differences between people. In EU country servers are a success, they have 9 in the first 12 places, but in the total they have less than 50% (13 country servers in a total of 27).

Just because there are people here trying to pass wrong information to others, let just correct some statements.

SFR didn’t not explode in the past, Anet was decided to put in place free transfers for a Server that’s was leading EU ladder, we got invaded, the queues are tremendous, and some guilds left. No one left because they are bored with the server.

The only thing I’m worried is the health of other players, just saying this because I saw Deso leading late night every day, you guys are not sleeping?

My advice to Deso and ER is, try to do better, don’t wait for the others to do worst.

To SFR. Please stack on commander. Just choose one of the blue dots:)

Tyhmyys.3268:

“The double team is so easy to prove. Las week we flipped 3 towers on VS map, they have 3 T0 and one T3, at the same time we had 3 T3 and one T1, can you guess watt your server did? No? I will help you, Deso did attack our map. "

So what you are saying is: Viz got overrun by you guys, and instead of double teaming the weaker team we did what we are supposed to do, and evened the odds by attacking you. At this point, your Q.Q is just rediculous. “You didn’t want to double team viz with us, you lame doubleteaming s****”, is basicly what you are saying.

Thank god there are some rly nice guilds on sfr, that actually play the game, instead of Q.Q all the time. Some rly nice fights against CoN and Opt on elona bl yesterday.

You can read in my previous posts.
“I don’t defend double teaming”.
“I think double teaming it’s a dishonorable way to play”

Watts I’m saying in the post it’s that you server as more opportunities of success in VS map but they chose to attack us. Double team means not get the opportunities the map gives you, in this case the VS T0 towers.

Let me explain you better, a few weeks ago we had match against VS and JS, they completely double team us (JS didn’t took any VS tower in EB map during the week, or do any attack to VS towers), this is double teaming.

After this we had the same match again, and JS completely change is behavior in EB, we can see them attacking us or VS, according to opportunities. I give them my congratulations and they did have a better performance that week.

It’s that so hard to understand watt it means double teaming?

Kingface.9781:

BakedWaffle.8751:

MagnusLL.8473:

Reading this thread is hilarious.

Server wins in points = “witness our l33t skillz”
Server loses in points = “we’re outnumbered and we don’t play for points anyway”

Heads up for anyone who might have forgotten this: weekly score is a direct function of total man hours spent by a server in WvW. Simple as that.
“Skill” never EVER enters the equation. As you yourself well know, but only remember when you’re losing.
Otherwise, please realize that you’re stating that Vizunah is the server with the highest skill.

Actually not, if you check current statistics you’ll see SFR has a higher rating then Vizu at the moment , so SFR are the ultimate pro’s

That’s because VS plays for the good fight, not for points.

HaHaHa!!!!
Good one. To much sun I think:)

The Hammer.5960:

lol, so much hate and measuring kitten

For what it’s worth, we in CoN enjoy fighting both Deso and ER when we get the chance to catch you in the open field.

“Finally someone explains!!!!
That’s the reason Elona send is best guild GD to fight the pugs in EB map. The SFR guilds in BL’s are to week for them, you need a real challenge…”

Pay no heed to Mighty Ice, he lives in EB. All that hardcore PvD action makes a man a little detached from reality…

Anyway, shoutout to FG for the fun times and shenanigans in Deso border last night. We really wanted that spawn tower but numbers and our lack of usual raid leaders (for most of the fights) were against us. See you guys soon!

Mate what I say about SFR guilds its pure sacarsm. I live in EB, but I know the power of our guilds, many good commands from those guilds came to EB and I love to play with them. But I must visit BL more often, must learn that map.

Once again I was joking with with GD, first time I saw them Aliendream was commanding and gave us very good info about the way to defeat them, because he knows them from BL.

But its an onour for us to receive GD in EB map, people need to learn to fight strong opponents (this is not joke GD it’s very good guild).

Cheers.

Deniara Devious.3948:

colesy.8490:

Seems the Deso keyboard warriors are out again. SFR don’t cower from fights unless hopelessly outnumbered.

I think Circle of Nine [CoN] is one the best SFR guilds and you are probably a good player, but I seriously doubt that any daytime SFR player know what it means to be hopelessly outnumbered. SFR is a super stacked WvWvW oriented server. You have the numbers to be #1. Your biggest enemy at the moment is yourself. Too much elitism and not a proper respect and organization of your own PuGs (VS knows this). I can explain that better, if you don’t understand this.

For your information: Desolation was outnumbered at EB, SFR BL and ER BL pretty much whole noon and afternoon yesterday. I went to all maps and Deso BL was the only one where we didn’t have the buff on and even there was just few players. Today I went played only on EB and we once again that outnumbered “buff” on us. If we have that buff, it means that both ER and SFR have more players on that map. It is plain dead obvious that for major part of the day Desolation is the server, which is outnumbered. I know that at some night hours we are ticking more, but I am sleeping at those hours, so I cannot comment who has the buff then.

Funnily while enjoying the outnumbered “buff”, I saw an enemy thief with CON tag. He started to run away when our group got near. And ín recent days I have seen SFR players sit proudly next to their arrow carts and raining arrows at the outmanned Desolation players. And this just continues and continues.

I think it is fair to say that some players from every server take advantage of the game mechanisms e.g. overpowered siege weapons and run away from some fights, including even fights. At least I have got guts to admit it. I was today roaming as a warrior. I played pretty cautiously as I didn’t want to get overrun by enemy blobs. As result I didn’t die a single time.

To Wemill: It is sad that you blame Desolation for double teaming you last week with Visunah. Desolation attacks enemy players and keeps and towers from any server it seems as viable attack targets. Desolation is certainly eager to attack VS, as everybody knows where the easy loot bags live. The BL map assignments are decided before the match up. E.g. certain guilds will go to Bay or Hills BL and we don’t yet know what the opponents will be there. And some guilds have guild raids few days per week and might select the borderlands just based out of whim or take that borderland which has least queue. This might lead that are 3 strong guilds raiding the same BL at same time.

The usual nonsense from you. I’m so glad that you state that you have played on EB map.

We are waiting from you to come to SFR and organize us; of course we don’t know watts are our weak points on the EB map.

You noticed that you are leading at late night, you are still outmanned, but I guess because you are sleeping that as a good effect on you server
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You are outmanned? Poor you….But you know that you still have more than 10 players camping the sentry’s near Ogres and Anza, Overlook spawn, and 2 or 3 more camping Speldam. This guys don’t leave even if Deso as to defend one tower. Who needs to organize now?

The double team is so easy to prove. Las week we flipped 3 towers on VS map, they have 3 T0 and one T3, at the same time we had 3 T3 and one T1, can you guess watt your server did? No? I will help you, Deso did attack our map. This week on EB it the same, last night when we flipped all ER map (except Jerrifer’s) you came to leach some towers. And last night 3 in morning, GMT, when I DC to go sleep, you are the leaders (few hours’ sleep to help in BL against…Deso).

Keep the rages coming, for us its good.
One little story for you.

Last night full Deso zerg, at Ogres (at the same time we have to defend Mendon, just a coincidence), one SFR ele passes near your zerg, all of you jump on the poor ele, you landed on the middle of our zerg. You have been wiped in seconds.

Romek.4201:

mr.victory what you say was weeks ago – now sfr is just a server filled with recruited junk from everywhere – all run in a big zerg and fight for wxp – nothing more

bout guilds
only sfr guild i saw which is good is CON – all others is “FastfooD” you see everywhere
and you talk bout gandara – ye go there guilds like Kale or Punk i saw last week would eat every sfr guild

have fun and after a year noone rly care anymore bout “wake up in the morning for pointz”

Finally someone explains!!!!

That’s the reason Elona send is best guild GD to fight the pugs in EB map. The SFR guilds in BL’s are to week for them, you need a real challenge.

Many thanks to visiting us GD, and to the ER mob that follow you, we are trying to adapt, it isn’t always possible.

Meanwhile a medium populated server like us, keep beating the well of you, yes we have Pavilion on our server to, where I had had spent some hours yesterday after we lost a full T3 Anza almost impossible to lose with siege we had inside (you used 6 superior rams but if people know how to use a treb that will be impossible to take), minutes later we lost without a single fight a T3 SM, and I did go rest to Pavilion.

SFR and EB map are now one international attraction, we have received a ton of new players that don’t even know the correct order of upgrading a tower, that use their skills…just because they have a nice visual aspect, run in front of commanders, etc.

But we still have lots of committed people, and good players, that try and do the best they can to deliver as much points as possible to our score.

Cottage Pie.6215:

I no longer play GW2 (permanently) as Anet have shown relentless incompetence/disinterest regards to WvW, so they no longer deserve dedicated players in their game, but seeing an over-confident SFR get hellpurged by Vizunah last week was hilarious.

No surprise they’ve already started spinning their trying to double team Viz with us as getting double teamed themselves blahblah blob blah…

Wee-mill, SFR Omega golem rushed us last week too, and Omega golem rushes are hardly a rare thing now. You got too big for your boots and got annihilated. SFR could never beat Viz without Deso’s help, which SFR were too eager to shed early in the week (what with the omega golem rushes) trying to claim victory as their own after they thought they had enough lead. Didn’t work did it!

We win 5 times in a row, and we have win before that to VZ. ATM you dont have chance with us. Thats final. You are so delusional that last week 20 min before the reset you tryed to attack/camp our keep in EB, I taged up and cleen the floor with you guys (no special commanding skill need, I wasn’t in TS, no need to beat you). You leave GW2 permanet, good news. You leave the forum, excelent news.

Tygra.4570:

Yeah a random forum warrior on a whining topic made by forum warriors probably speaks the truth about how Viz and Elona 2v1’ed you.

Even Kingface wouldn’t have said this.

Yes I know many of VS players didn’t like the behavior from ER on the match I’m referring to, I saw many times in EB map, VS attacking ER, but some pathetic players from ER side keep doing is 2v1, ignoring completely VS map.

Well, for me Kingface it’s a guy that loves the game and its server, many times I agree with him when he talks about the game.

Feindsender.1043:

2d 19h 30m – 14k Rating Points
Come on Vizunah … Allez, allez!

Greetings from E.R.

Nice post because it shows the true. Last match we did against ER and VS was something to remember, a true 2v1.

All of this from a frustrated server “I want to be number 2”, some of you guys are pathetic.

noddan.2035:

Thanks to SFR and VIZ for all the fun in this matchup. I admire you two as servers because of the strong commitment and dedication that you both show!

on the other hand im a bit sad to see that Desolation suddenly lost ALOT of people this week, dont know what happend tbh. DVG would like to say thanks to both VIZ, SFR and those guilds/player that showed up this week on a regular basis!

It’s nice to see people like you in the game. Many thanks for you kind words, because it’s true, only the commitment of many players let us fight like we are doing atm, for me less two or three sleeping hours before work.

The Crown Pavilion stole us many players to (If there is queue I wait there, the drops are amazing and the number of people there to, at the same time the loot has been reduced in WWW, incredible but this make sense to Anet).

I wish the best of luck to you guys and I think you had a good strategy according to your numbers, I don’t know if you command on EB map, but on that map I hallways see that when you have the power to attack you tend to go to our side, but I’m not on 24 h, so I can be wrong.

I will like to ask to SFR guilds in BL’s to stop to cooperate, never join groups, keep running around without taking any towers, that’s watt will happen if they try to get a T3 tower with siege inside. with 40 people, with the power of AC people don’t even care to much with siege, just drop 6 AC’s, and that will trash 99% of the attacks () (one alert to some guys in EB that insist in running with a blue tag above their heads, it’s your duty to make sure our towers have proper siege, and are fully repaired after being attacked, and please try to convince people to scout, they will do it).
() End of sarcasm.

Thumbs up to Axel and Solvaren from Deso, every server as the right to play as they wish, completely agree, only thing not acceptable it’s spying, cheating or hacking.

In my personal view isn’t acceptable to do 2v1 against anyone, of course some time we will do it because there are 3ververs competing. We know that we are fighting with VS to win and it’s normal to focus on them. My congratulations to Deso, you are doing a great work playing very smart.

Kingface.9781:

Once again, SFR people are still the trouble-makers on forum.

As if you’re crying fuel to keep going.

Hello Kingface:)
You had to be the 1st VS to come and coment.
I hope you don’t get any problems because of this.
Cheers.

Less then 2h to the end of this match. I bet in BB and Deso to next week.

@ street
You are joking? We and PS teaming up against ER? No!
Teaming up its watt you did with River Side. Next time we will do videos from the attacks and will invite again RS to show evidence of them capping a tower (this is point of view of a guy that played more then 18 hours on EB during weekend).

@Saint Scarlet
It’s normal that you chose to attack us, we are leading the match, so you are playing like you should, and most important we can’t say that you are double teaming. For us it’s normal to “suffer” this, we must be prepared, we also know that if you have the opportunity you guys will attack ER.

Dayra.7405:

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

…, just try to beat PS, because they in front now. Dont worry with SFR according you and VZ we are dead.

Why? If they make it to the 2nd then only because you attack us, before you attack them. Shurely not, because they stand a match vs Elona without help. The only reason I would see to finish in front of Piken is, to help RS to go ahead of them. But 1st RS do not need that help, and 2nd german servers are more rivals than allies

The match ER\SFR\RS was one of the worst Ihave seen SFr was double teamd, at the time I have asked to RS guys to tell me if they got any tower from ER, in EB during the hole muach, no reply until today.

The whole week was the same ER attaking Anza and RS attacking Ogres, ER lost the match but seems to be very happy because they can fight SFR, you can if you have other server helping you like RS did.

SFR prefer to attack ER because you are the number #3 server so you musto be more stronger then PS. But PS allways prefer to attack SFR, wen we attcack ER we allways had to be careful with our back, because we know PS will attack us.

Please learn that the points are generated in all 4 maps, dont abandone one map to go bash another server in is BL. You took our garrisson in our BL, we took your keep in EB.

PS: This EB point of view, play very litle in BL’s.

Dayra.7405:

Contiguous.1345:

We’ve woken up this morning to find the entire eb and most of the bls completely blue.
Even to the extent of our keep (and presumably Elona’s) being fully upgraded to T3, complete with waypoint.

There has to be something seriously wrong with somebody so obsessive about a game that they will spend all night stacking the deck like that.

Just saying.

I guess, some Ex-Elona now on SFR wana show how powerfull they are now, nothing serious, highly motivated for a week, but the hotter the flame the shorter it will burn

Next time dont let 10 people defend EB map and move all people to BL, at 23:00!!!!????

I bet I’m going to see some posts from ER saying how great they are because they defeat SFR in is own BL

Dont worry with our flame, just try to beat PS, because they in front now. Dont worry with SFR according you and VZ we are dead.

Contiguous.1345:

We’ve woken up this morning to find the entire eb and most of the bls completely blue.
Even to the extent of our keep (and presumably Elona’s) being fully upgraded to T3, complete with waypoint.

There has to be something seriously wrong with somebody so obsessive about a game that they will spend all night stacking the deck like that.

Just saying.

1st – Yesterday at 23:00 there are 10 people from ER in EB, they have abandoned the map and moved to BL’s, including they are dominating in SFR BL (talking about points), when I left we started to cap PS map, but I don’t think they have many people to;

2nd – Before your start talking about night capping I recommend you to consult millennium site before came he and say rubbish (how do you think PS is still fighting 2nd place with ER?);

3rd – Noted, next time you abandon a map we will sit in our corner of the map killing rabbits.

Grezko.7950:

Well in all fairness you do have some guild raids in EB, unless you do not call 15-20 ppl from the same guild a guild raid. Both SFR and Elona are lead by commanders each time we fought (SFR usually has bigger numbers grouped around a commander and a bit better movement). So the excuse “they are all pugs” is not really valid here. Anyway some good fights for us .

@Wemil,
We don’t have good commanders in EB?
Just naming a few, Hjerim, Kresh, Shadow, Bozzo…you (my apologies to some others names missing here). They are not good?

@Grezko,
We had some problems in EB last night, the main one was people are not stacking at commander, we have 1 hour queue and 25 people on commander. I bashed them as usual; some noobs tried the trash talk with me as usual to, normal. More people gathered and we had sorted some of the problems.
No one is trying to convince you from anything. All people know that EB is pugland for SFR. If you don’t know it, it’s you problem (I play there from start 99% of the time).

Some of us know watt was the biggest problem last night in EB, but that isn’t to discuss here, or in open chat.

Now that I have made our “mea culpa” maybe it’s time to the server that plan attacks with catas wen they can see the tower as a treb inside that will destroy the catas (yes I’m talking about two attacks to Durios) do the same. This is quality commanding/playing?