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If the game was lots of fun this wouldn’t be an issue. It wasn’t that big of a deal in GW1.
GW2 is too simple and as a result, gets old fast. That’s the real reason people are struggling to find reasons to play. It’s simply not that fun of a game after a while. Don’t get me wrong, it’s worth the cost and you’ll get a good amount of hours out of it. But the reason for discussions like this is not really progression, it’s lack of depth.
GW2 doesn’t deserve goty. They talked so big about revolution and just made another theme park mmo. GW1 was more innovative. Some people like the unfocused, zergy content but I think tons of people are very disappointed with GW2. It’s like an mmo for beginners, there is very little depth.
Personally I find Borderlands 2 more fun and there are some big releases coming by the end of the year.
Thieves 50%
Mesmers 30%
Everything else 20%
There you go. (yes I pulled these numbers from a dark place)
My 1st class I played in spvp was a thief. Other classes besides mesmer don’t even compare.
Remember, spvp is about small fights and running around constantly. Thieves excel in these areas. Also, summoning pets is flat out OP for thieves. I use the trap and the elite and it’s an auto win every single time.
While mesmers are OP when compared to anything but thieves, they aren’t quite as bad imo. They do less damage and are easier to kill.
That video is pure sales hype.
Grats on having an opinion :P
*The video still explains the “direction” ANet wanted to take GW2 *(Avoiding typical MMO structure) IE: No typical quests.
Not an opinion unfortunately.
What they describe in the videos and what we actually have are 2 very different things. GW2 follows the same structure as every other mmo, they just changed up the interface a little and virtually removed character progression.
Questing is actually worse than other mmos imo as there is no presentation at all. The video is the very definition of sales hype.
The whole game is endgame!
I still can’t believe they try to say that with a straight face.
That video is pure sales hype.
Bots own this game.
55 Warrior
3/10
Not really playing, tired of using the same skills. GW2 is like playing with a simple, low level character….forever.
Gotta love these people who are willing to bend over backwards to convince themselves the game is fun.
GW1 was fun. GW2 is a paint by numbers zerg fest with the least amount of character progression of any mmo to date.
I personally think that stripping the classes down to such a shockingly small number of skills doesn’t help either. After GW1 where you had such flexibility in building your character, it was very jarring to be so heavily restricted in GW2. I can’t think of another mmo with so little in the way of character progression. It’s nuts.
Good post though, they promised revolution and did not deliver.
“it’s a game that would be complicit in the stagnation of the MMO genre, veiling it behind a sea of shallow alterations to a tired formula that needs changing.” – Very well said.
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Name calling? What name did I call you? I simply said that you seem to be rather oblivious to the point of this thread, which was the obnoxious nature of the community.
Quick quote for irony. Take care.
Its not surprising it does not make sense to you, when you are the prime example of the thread topic.
There is little point in evaluating negative opinions of someone that does not like the game. Sure, its valid that you have a negative opinion of the game. Feel better now?
Now we can move on, and someone can post a real criticism that actually has intent to be helpful to the games future development.
See above. The problem is people who attack others.
You can’t go running to hide behind “talking about the game”.
I stopped here. Please stop trolling and talk about the game. This is what the forums are here for, for people to share their opinions. If you don’t like them too bad.
I do not care so much about your opinion, although I may disagree with it. I DO care about how it is expressed, and that was the point of this entire thread, which appears to have sailed over your rather oblivious head.
Resorting to insults?
I will simply report this and move on. You are obviously secure in your argument with the name calling.
Mr Thebigcheese wrote:
A lot is Anet’s fault with their ridiculous sales hype. Revolution this and amazing dynamic events that.
Then they released a game that is a step backwards for the genre in terms of creativity and content. All they did was change things up on the interface and make it so you don’t pick up/turn in quests.
The content itself is as stale as it gets. The classes are the shallowest in the genre. Everything about GW2 was tired upon release.My response it this… that is your personal opinion and not fact. I disagree with it because I am personally not finding these issues. In my opinion they gave me everything they promised and then some nice little cookies that wern’t advertised.
Does the game have some problems… sure it does absolutely. No game less than 1 month from launch didn’t have problems. They are working on issues as we speak. I have only ran into 1 bug so far.. a skill point in WvW was missing, the one at the centar camp. We all reported it… I went and did other things. A few hours later it was fixed… it think it was like 3-4 hours, can’t recall.
Point is there is so much to do that it did not interrupt any game play for me. I just moved on. And that is the main issue for alot of gamers unsatisfied here, they cannot move on.
They spent $60 on a game they are not happy with. It sux, I know. I have dont it myself a few times. You buy a game with preconcieved notions or high expectations etc, and the game dosen’t live up to it. You feel like you wasted your money. Such is life.
Sometimes you just have to suck it up and swallow the self intitlement and move on to a different game. The world will continue to revolve, the universe will continue to expand and games will continue to be produced. Gammers will continue to whine and demand everything they think they deserve etc. It’s a never ending cycle.
How will games ever improve if only positive feedback is allowed and anyone with criticism should “just move on”?
This makes no sense to me.
It’s important to note that they probably shouldn’t have called this Guild Wars 2 because it is nothing like the 1st game. Can’t blame people who loved the 1st game only to be shocked at how watered down the 2nd game is in terms of complexity.
You can’t go running to hide behind “talking about the game”.
I stopped here. Please stop trolling and talk about the game. This is what the forums are here for, for people to share their opinions. If you don’t like them too bad.
Some people post unconstructive, unhelpful and inflammatory comments about the game.
Other people call these people on their unconstructive, unhelpful and inflammatory comments.
Guess who the problem is.
I am done arguing with someone who’s only interest is attacking others opinions. It’s more than clear why threads always fall into stuff like this. People like you.
Talk about the game. Obsessing over what everyone says and trying to prove them wrong is obviously a fool’s errand. I really think people who lower themselves to circular arguments attacking anything and everything expect the point of what was said don’t have a leg to stand on.
Some people talk about the game.
Some people criticize people talking about the game.
Guess who the problem is.
Opinions are fine, friend, but when you use words like “backwards”, “stale”, “shallowest” and “tired”, you are being inflammatory. Hint: being inflammatory does not require attacking someone personally. It simply means that your opinion is being expressed in a way that will inflame others. If you do not understand this, or refuse to accept it, I cannot help you — but it’s quite obvious that posts like yours are the kind of flamebait that is devouring this forum.
I used those words because they describe the game the most accurately. If you find it “inflammatory” you are the one who needs to take a step back think about what you’re doing.
Notice I talk about the game….you talk about me. In my opinion that says everything anyone needs to know.
GW2 really is more of the same and Anet talked big about revolution.
A lot is Anet’s fault with their ridiculous sales hype. Revolution this and amazing dynamic events that.
Then they released a game that is a step backwards for the genre in terms of creativity and content. All they did was change things up on the interface and make it so you don’t pick up/turn in quests.
The content itself is as stale as it gets. The classes are the shallowest in the genre. Everything about GW2 was tired upon release.
And this post is another example.
Guys, if you want to understand why there is so much hostility from the fans of the game, it’s because of posts like this. Totally unconstructive, unhelpful, inflammatory and baiting.
You have inadvertently highlighted the problem perfectly. You think anyone with a negative opinion of the game is “unhelpful, inflammatory and baiting”. This is obviously not true at all.
The reason for the hostility is people like you honestly. I didn’t insult anyone, it’s not inflammatory at all. You just don’t agree so you give it ignorant labels.
The content is stale. It’s the same thing every mmo has been doing for years. Warhammer’s public quests were better than DEs.
The classes are the shallowest in the genre. So few skills, such little progression. Gameplay is incredibly simple and repetitive as a result, even for an mmo.
Try to understand that opinions that differ from yours are not wrong. You are literally part of the problem. Please try to regain the ability to be objective instead of irrationally trying to discredit anything you disagree with.
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A lot is Anet’s fault with their ridiculous sales hype. Revolution this and amazing dynamic events that.
Then they released a game that is a step backwards for the genre in terms of creativity and content. All they did was change things up on the interface and make it so you don’t pick up/turn in quests.
The content itself is as stale as it gets. The classes are the shallowest in the genre. Everything about GW2 was tired upon release.
There is currently no Guild Wars in Guild Wars.
THAT is the underlying arguement of progression whines.
And yet we loved GW1.
GW2 is just a very shallow game. That’s it.
Great post OP, but GW1 only had aesthetic rewards and that was great fun.
GW2 tries so hard to make sure that everyone is the same and that everyone wins that it becomes a bland, paint by numbers experience. Having the shallowest classes in the genre doesn’t help either.
We really do. Guild Wars 2 was not what you expected. You were hoping for more. You’re disappointed. Disillusioned.
Angry.
But you know what? That’s your own fault. Not ArenaNet’s. Not NCSoft’s. Yours.
Anet lied like there was no tomorrow before the game was released. Everything from leveling up to dynamic events was pure sales hype. This game did not revolutionize anything and actually took the genre back a few steps in terms of character building/progression.
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I see people complaining about lack of gear treadmill, despite the game being advertised to not have it.
Do people order fries and complain when they aren’t burgers?
The game does have a gear grind. A lot of complainers were GW1 fans.
Try to keep up.
1. The graphics?
2. The rest of the game is so watered down compared to GW1 it’s really hard to get into. PvE is really boring and your character doesn’t evolve. Classes are so homogenized everyone feels the same.
Hundreds of skills? Sure, but you can only use those 20 to be allowed to play with the so-called big boys? Also not revolutionary.
You sir were not very good at GW1 or didn’t play it. There is no other explanation for what you have just said. The vast majority of skills in GW1 were useful in the right build.
Anet talked big about revolution and GW2 is anything but. It’s pure theme park but with less rides.
keep fighting the good fight OP.
Eh. The game is for noobs and extremely casual players, I don’t think this is going to change.
Just giving a little feedback in the (slim) hope that it might.
I will agree with you on that though, half the utilities are useless, but I’e already made a suggestion, being vague about what you don’t like isn’t helping anyone.
Neither is your trolling. You are now ignored.
I would not consider GW1 an MMO. Too instanced.
Regarding char customization screen: Agreed some races got the short end with this. But further down you are able to drag sliders to increase jaw width or eye angle. I dont think its a BAD char customization. And I will say that I spent a long time on my syvlari thief because of the patterns and skin glows.
Sorry I meant building a character through skills, not appearance. In GW1 you had hundreds of skills to choose from and you could be 2 classes. GW2 is insanely limited in this regard.
Why does every special snowflake think his whine is just soooo important?
If you dont like the game, great! not every game is for every person.
but spare us the forum post whining and just go do something you do enjoy.
Easy peasy lemon squeezy…
Right back at you? If you don’t like people’s opinions why are you reading the discussion forum?
No, I didn’t.
Sorry.
Yes you did. Have a nice day liar.
Just because you aren’t and held doesn’t mean there’s no progression, sorry.
The progression is through the map and story.Exactly. It’s a rather bland, paint by numbers experience.
So you want farmville: the MMO?
Nice edit. Before you edited this post said “what was your favorite mmo”.
Guild wars 1 (if you count that as an mmo).
Just because you aren’t and held doesn’t mean there’s no progression, sorry.
The progression is through the map and story.
Exactly. It’s a rather bland, paint by numbers experience.
Anyone else get to “no progression” and stopped reading?
Not even bothering to explain myself any more.
Considering it’s one of the most common complaints about the game, you are probably alone here.
How is it like leveling in other mmos? You go to an area, kill a set amount of mobs and get your reward. All they did was change the interface and make it so you don’t have to get a quest or turn it in. Otherwise it is the same stuff we’ve been doing for 15 years.
Why is that a problem? They wrote an article saying this is endgame. Yeah.
The lack of customization when compared to the 1st game is also very jarring. Character building is way too simple, this is a big part of the paint by numbers feel.
Even if it doesn’t have a sub that doesn’t mean much if nobody I know (including myself) wants to play it. It’s like an mmo for people who have never played an mmo before.
I haven’t seen Orr yet being level 55. Nothing has changed from 1-55 though and after reading “the endgame re imagined” I really did lose hope that things would get better.
Everything is so simple and streamlined that we are just going through the motions. I’m level 55 and very bored.
No progression, PvE incredibly dull (nothing changes except the scenery), WvW is a zerg fest which is not unexpected (how fast it got old is though), spvp would be fun if there was anything to do other than run constantly to capture points.
This game didn’t just fail to innovate, it took a gigantic step backwards compared to the 1st game. Reading “the endgame re imagined” made me wonder if Arenanet really thinks we’re stupid or if they honestly believe that nonsense. Leveling up in GW2 is just like leveling up in any other mmo. I think it’s all just sales hype, remember how awesome they made dynamic events sound? Yeah. Warhammer’s public quests were better….
Add me to the list of people bummed out at this theme park. If you are going to make a theme park mmo, you need to have the usual rides. Making a couple of kid rides and pretending it’s endgame isn’t cool imo.
@OP You should have done your homework on the game before buying it, if you didnt like the “casual” aspect of it.
Sadly Arenanet lied like there was no tomorrow.
The whole game being endgame for example. This is a flat out lie. Leveling up is just like any other game, perhaps even simpler.
Dynamic events? I won’t even bother repeating the nonsense they said about those before release.
Besides, I don’t think anyone really expected such a bland experience from GW2. I still can’t believe how dumbed down the character building is compared to the 1st game. It’s nuts.
GW2 went WAY too casual. The whole game is a paint by numbers experience. The game has no soul, not sure how to say it really. Everything is so streamlined we just go through the motions. This game failed to innovate and instead went deeper into theme park territory than any other game.
I’m very disappointed overall. PvE is like playing an endless series of starting zones. There’s no evolution to how you play, it’s like being stuck with a low level character forever. It’s lame.
I played on Mordrid, what a huge waste of resources.
Every FFA server on every mmo I can think of ended up a ghost town.
I don’t think you spent more than a minute in there, at least you would know the name of the server.
It was years ago and yes I played a decent amount. The only fun part was when DF.
Sorry but it’s a massive waste of time/resources that nobody really wanted to play after the 1st month. As you know, the server was always near empty.
Welcome to reality.
I’m not hostile without a reason here, but would you please shut up? You obviously have no clue what you’re talking about here. Darkness Falls were open to anyone at any time on Mordred. You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about. And those empty zones you’re talking about must have been the level 0-10/tutorial areas – guess what – the rest of us were busy in the high level zones, you know, playing the endgame.
I know it was always open, that’s why it was the only fun part.
The sever was always empty, nobody wanted to play. You can deny reality until the end of time it won’t change the fact that this type of server only appeals to griefers and as a result has an incredibly small audience.
Cry all you want, it’s true.
Did you even play on the server? It sounds like you didn’t spend very long there at all if you didn’t know it turned into a ghost town VERY quickly.
I played on Mordrid, what a huge waste of resources.
Every FFA server on every mmo I can think of ended up a ghost town.
I don’t think you spent more than a minute in there, at least you would know the name of the server.
It was years ago and yes I played a decent amount. The only fun part was DF.
Sorry but it’s a massive waste of time/resources that nobody really wanted to play after the 1st month. As you know, the server was always near empty.
Welcome to reality.
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DEs are the biggest disappointment in the game imo. They are not dynamic, they are faceroll easy and they are all extremely generic.
WAR’s public quests were better, by a long shot.
Don’t get me wrong, GW2 is a solid game, DEs are just crap.
I’m enjoying GW2 I really am.
“The End Game Reimagined” is nothing more than sales hype and it’s complete nonsense. Leveling up is the same thing as any other game, it is most certainly NOT “end game” from level 1.
I played on Mordrid, what a huge waste of resources.
Every FFA server on every mmo I can think of ended up a ghost town.
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