Guild Wars 2

Same issue this week (and last week although I didn’t post). Only occurs at resets.

I’ve been running around on a lowbie alt just fine, no casting problems or loading problems – try change to my (new as of 3 weeks ago) main, and I get a long loading time followed by being totally incapable of casting any abilities, endurance doesn’t drop etc so it appears to just disconnect entirely when I load the character.

Going through keep gates on any of the characters seems to cause the issue as well, but it is again ONLY at reset – I’m on the lowest populated world and can play the rest of the week without hassle :/

Not been on much past couple of days, so can’t make comment on matchup progress etc, so instead here’s vids from this week:

Random late night stuff – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MYvniek20U
SM (very long) – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA2PpRTRe3Y
WSR BL Tuesday – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fs9LHbxTiM

Just think.. come next friday the league starts and we may not be facing each other at all!

Still fairly new down here so I guess I’m behind on the times, but kitten them Lupi thieves got some anger issues!

On a more positive note, had some real fun last night in WSR border around briar – got a bit on video but no idea whats useable and whats not, I shall have a look!

aspirine.6852:

Neandramathal.9536:

aspirine.6852:

x Charlie.4820:

aspirine.6852:

x Charlie.4820:

aspirine.6852:

I vote that Vabbi should rename their server to trebbi.

Is this coming from a fissure player?

I’ve zoned into zones when we’re outmanned with no defenders, to find fissure trebbing our wooden objectives. lol.

Not complaining at all, just saying your server does it to. I’m one of the people who can accept that siege is part of WvW.

Yep fow player, and I a typical vabbi day. Build a treb in overlook, start trebbing SM all day because what else would you do. Bring 12 people to sm and get your kitten handed to you because we have more people, and repeat this 20 times a day.

Apologies, i’ll tell people not to try because you’ll always zerg them, np.

Meh it’s more annoying than usefull. If you want to commit suicide every hour or so go ahead. Free stomp is free.

TBH, I’d rather that people tried and failed than just gave up ^^.

Let’s not forget FoW have failed plenty of things themselves

Oh we/I fail regularly. I am not the best wvw player around and I have met some IMP guys before. They are better than I am. What I do not get is the guy trebbing all day long, but you are probably right. Who am I to say what is fun for someone outnumbered all day long :/

Not quite what I meant (the “we’re better than you” thing), I was more meaning that I’ve seen FoW appear at a tower with bigger numbers and treb – only to fail getting it!

The trebbing SM thing happens on all servers I’ve played, if they’re the red team they’ll never stop. It’s pretty much the only thing they feel they can do, usually incapable of storming a nearby tower due to lack of numbers they’ll go for a 1 man operation in the hope it comes in handy later on.

It’s sensible in some ways as 1 guy can knock out the walls while the rest hit a different objective (if there is any others that is). It’s less sensible in others.. mostly the drawing attention, people tend not to like SM getting attacked.

aspirine.6852:

x Charlie.4820:

aspirine.6852:

x Charlie.4820:

aspirine.6852:

I vote that Vabbi should rename their server to trebbi.

Is this coming from a fissure player?

I’ve zoned into zones when we’re outmanned with no defenders, to find fissure trebbing our wooden objectives. lol.

Not complaining at all, just saying your server does it to. I’m one of the people who can accept that siege is part of WvW.

Yep fow player, and I a typical vabbi day. Build a treb in overlook, start trebbing SM all day because what else would you do. Bring 12 people to sm and get your kitten handed to you because we have more people, and repeat this 20 times a day.

Apologies, i’ll tell people not to try because you’ll always zerg them, np.

Meh it’s more annoying than usefull. If you want to commit suicide every hour or so go ahead. Free stomp is free.

TBH, I’d rather that people tried and failed than just gave up ^^.

Let’s not forget FoW have failed plenty of things themselves

super moo.2891:

it’s a shame that your server/guild[s] use this [legitimate but] incredibly dull tactic so often.

Wasn’t there so don’t know what you’re talking about, hence I must ask (curiosity is a burden) – what tactic?

I’m seeing so many WSR/FoW tags suddenly on Vabbi… why all the sudden transfers? :/ I saw a blob today.. sad times

Hamham.7504:

Vabbi are really enthusiastic about WvW I’ve found. Just not many at times.

Not just lack of numbers, it’s a whole bunch of things. So far today is the first day I’ve seen anyone stay in EB after capping their own corner. As soon as those 4 towers/keep are red everyone leaves – no attempts to attack enemy territory or defend. When given the opportunity to defend it’s usually off to a BL with tail between legs and “we can’t fight them”. Hopefully this is changing, because defense is incredibly fun!

castor.8019:

only thing i dislike is the jumping/laughing on body of single persons when they´ve been crushed by groups. not a big success and not the time to be overbearing. but thats just my opinion.

This will happen a lot

Not afraid to risk dying but makes no sense to hang around on low hp waiting for it ;D Especially as often the only thing holding the enemy back is fear!

Video (last matchup ofc, I can’t upload quick enough to get this weeks in yet!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3g4ZFlnMHE

Warning: Do not view if any of the following are an issue:
- Video contains some upleveled players.
- Pugs are present on both sides of the fight.
- Numbers are not even.
- Fissure lose.

lol, don’t think it’ll really make much difference points wise, it’d just be a boring matchup lol. Which commander was it? Guild/class etc? So we know who to target

Some good fights tonight, big and small. Although for some reason I can never join in at reset on one particular character :/

Hilarious @ [TSOC] guild, lots of fights, all terrible.

Gideon.6742:

If you think 10-20vthe same is skillless thas your own opinion idc. But it is wvw if you want 5v5 go play tpvp

Don’t recall saying any of that?
But I’ll tell you right now, you won’t find 10-20 vs X on my videos… because our guild has 8 players, and that’s how we like it.

The reason most videos look the same is because there is only a finite number of situations that can occur. We can’t upload footage of intense fights vs guild groups when they don’t happen. There will always be upleveled’s in a zerg, but it’s hardly the bulk of the group, and even if it is… with a massive numbers difference upleveled or not it’s going to hurt, CC doesn’t care what level you are. Regardless, there are far less aggressive/whiney ways to say such things, or just not say it at all – no one forces you to watch after all.

The majority of fights we engage in are slim/no chance of winning, that’s what we enjoy, because I agree – there is nothing to lose, it’s a game.

jabberjabber.6804:

Mantis.3026:

People gonna hate on your videos. No-one likes to see themselves getting owned!

As one of the people getting stomped and owned in the videos, I kinda liked to watch it(!) – yeah I know that could be interpreted as being a bit strange, as it could damage public perception of me or even the guild. BUT!: It was fascinating to see the plays on the other side of the fence (so to speak) and study where I/We potentially went wrong or missed a beat. Therefore, to me, the videos are extra intelligence to be learnt from…

Oddly, that’s why I made my first ever videos – we were on a holiday on FoW to fight against our regular server (RoS), videos were made to show what the server looked like from an opponents perspective, and look for ways to improve!

I think half of those videos I was watching lord of the rings and didn’t do any editing to remove sound >.>

Mantis.3026:

Neandramathal: stumbling across a big fight between the two other servers and jumping in is always good! Its often hard for both teams to spot the small group from the 3rd server too, and am always shocked how long I survive in those! We do need more fights like that, I live for the carnage

Ravenous: I think I deserve it after the trouble you’ve caused us this week!
(Ps. I like to be big spoon!)

Three way fights are insane fun indeed

Please can you clean Rav’s fur, these kitten Charr are always getting messy ¬.¬

Mantis.3026:

People gonna hate on your videos. No-one likes to see themselves getting owned! And your hardly going to engage in fights that you have a slim/no chance of winning. That’s just poor play!

At least it proves people defend objectives (sometimes)! TBH we charge into loads of fights we have slim/no chance of winning, we’re just that weird!

Perception/perspective will always be different, there’s no changing that. Very late last night FoW/WSR were attacking each other in EB when the numbers were lower (although for a while we had nothing for the first hour or so) and we were always tagging into the fight, so that might be why we get attention >.>

Vabbi seem to only exist in a karma train from what I see, commanders never stay on a map – they’ll take the BL and the corner of EB, and make no attempt to go further.

Gideon.6742:

Neandramathal.9536:

On a different note, Video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvSagQD_5_U

More videos of beating up the uplvled pugs who are karma training… new content please….like watching die hard 15 lol I could’ve sworn it was your last video…but it was shorter…so skimming was faster.

What would you like me to film? When we meet a guild group I’ll film it. In the mean time, the videos I make are simply because we enjoyed the fight, nothing more – doesn’t mean everyone else does.

You seem very angry, perhaps a lie down would help?

On a different note, Video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvSagQD_5_U

We’ve been trying to convince them, but they want to stay on a german speaking server, outrageous!

Nah Vabbi won’t have victory as far as score is concerned, it appears there’s a big “we can never win, so just karma train!” attitude (and I’m not just saying that cos earliers tower give away frustrated me!). Personally I don’t care what the end of the week score is, but I refuse to just give things away ^^ Frustrates me to see such things.

Now, I have about 1gb out of 3tb space left.. so I must go either delete some footage or start the 10 hour upload process ;’(

Fissure must’ve reaaaaaalllly wanted Mendon’s Gap! And while we defended it first time around WSR came and took the rest of our stuff kitten opportunists! :P

The sad part is that we eventually lost the tower because “Karma Train starting at the keep” (not even joking) threw all the forces at a WSR occupied keep while FoW were hitting the tower… fighting 2 enemies instead of one.

From several aspects it makes sense, if you wish to climb the ladder (altho with leagues coming that’s mostly gone) then it makes sense to maximise points – aka speed. If you want Wxp etc, it’s quickest way.

I jokingly said to hamham the other day I’d make a compilation of FoW zergs when he asked what it’s like from a Vabbi perspective, starting to take that idea a bit more serious lol.

Dragona.4062:

Most of the FoW WvW’ers are far away from thinking about free stuff and WvW experience. We got this server out of the lowest Tier not with Guild Transfers but with own motivation (we are still one of the lowest populations in general). We put a lot effort in organisation and getting Guilds together. Believe me these people don’t really care about WXP.
The statement about Vabbi itself i can’t confirm. We are the Server that has fought Vabbi for ages and they have never given up or decreased heavily in population, so I don’t think that our “gameplay” how you call it, will cause population decrease.

For majority of servers, big or small, there will be the more dedicated bunch who lay the siege/do the defending/are there for the strategic element (I’m not going to say for the PPT, because especially at the bottom of the ladder I don’t think most people care if they win by 50k or 500k) – but there is always the greedy player who just wants his xp/karma! Even just in the scoreboard sense, it’s easier to get points from Vabbi than WSR, it’s understandable actions and I don’t think anyone’s complaining about it, just shouldn’t be surprised to find it gets boring from time to time

I used to be on RoS back until about christmas time, so I remember Vabbi’s fall to last and Fissure’s status (Found some old FoW footage recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxsk1DPAAFg) and whilst Vabbi is certainly at the point that the only players left are those who don’t care what situation it is – the best way to get more people into the zones is with a bit of an “omg we’re not getting annihilated?” or not finding their first step out the gate is met with 30 people. Not criticizing (or at least, not intention), it’s only natural. People always put more time in when they’re doing well, it’s simply the way things go.

I’ve always preferred being an underdog, hell it’s why I moved to Vabbi! But even I have my limits where I think ‘okay, thats enough for today’ and go do something else for a bit, so it’s not hard to believe that getting swamped for too long without progress will have a negative effect. Again – not criticizing, just discussing

Trick.9370:

The moment red objectives start appearing on the map I head over there to take a good look at Vabbi scoring points! Ok, and I will probably wave also…

I tend to like Vabbi alot and prefer to focus on WSR when it comes to taking objectives. Untill Vabbi is stomping me into oblivion ofcourse.

Not sure about the FoW population but I see alot more guilds playing together in groups, some more consistent (pug) zergs and yesterday I even had the feeling to be part of a blob. Pretty new things for FoW imo and I hope we can be a good opponent when we play in T8.

FoW does seem to have a lot more guild groups (only natural with larger population!) which is very good when fighting the larger servers. Guilds typically find best competition/challenge from similar sized guild groups or from larger pugs after all, so for when coming up against RoS/BT this will serve you best! Sadly it’s not so enjoyable (for either party) when meeting the smaller opponents, but understandably it’s also not like guilds will split down into smaller groups in such situations – people want to play with their friends.

For example; Jd have run a large group each time we’ve seen them, and I can understand why they began doing so versus higher opponents, but yesterday when we were only 5 it was somewhat tedious for us to try and fight (as a guild, god knows how the pugs feel).

It’s clear that FoW are preparing for a rise, and with any luck it will work out It’s just a shame that due to the randomised system (sigh, why did people whine so much about balanced matchups being repetitive..) they have to face the smaller ones too.

I think what Vabbi needs atm to become more competitive, is a commander with a group behind them, so that the pug forces get a ‘backbone’ for lack of better phrase, and will stick it out in the fight, get some confidence, and start pushing instead of retreating. I’ve considered trying to take on that roll but at this stage my commanding days are over, just don’t have the patience any more. I’ve seen some terrible terrible things while here, but not here to score PPT (altho coming second would make me chuckle) – those days are over! IF Vabbi have dreams of rising up, then they’ll find a way

Just incase, one last time – I’m actually really enjoying myself, most fun I’ve had in the game for months. Not complaining about the matchups by a long shot!! Just think it’s not suprising you’re bored ;D

WSR generally have reasonable numbers, and Vabbi can get them going too if given the chance. As far as Vabbi is concerned there is often nothing that can be done against the size of group FoW runs around in, we (guild at least) try but there are limits to what can be defended/fought (especially when we rarely get chance to upgrade).

Can’t speak for anyone else but most the time it feels like the second red objectives start appearing on the map WSR/FoW forget about each other and just go straight for it, like “woo free stuff”. People want their Wxp so will go for the path of least resistance, to be expected.

I still have fun trying vast majority the time, but it shouldn’t be surprising that you aren’t getting too much resistance in general as not everyone is a gluten for punishment. As for hoping for growing population, the effect that this type of gameplay has will cause the opposite effect

Propoganda it may be, but pay more attention to WSR and you’ll likely find less empty/defenseless objectives ;D Especially as Vabbi will build momentum when allowed to hold objective for more than 10minutes :P

Now, back to videos >.>

Gideon.6742:

Yawn… Guess vabs and wsr can thank anet for the bug… what a sham and joke this has turned out to be.

Yeah, thanks for the win ANet!

I wouldn’t worry, nothing has changed at all lol. It’s not like any server is going anywhere up/down ladder, and the leagues start soon so it doesn’t matter anyway. Just enjoy the fighting

SFR and Piken are totally scared, it’s why it won’t let us into WvW.. to save them the embarassment…..

…of Vabbi actually gaining a point!

Because here I’m getting overloaded with footage, which wasn’t the case before :P
Especially now the guild WvW activity is back to decent levels!

First video of this matchup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR7qrTQrFh8
Wasn’t on for majority of yesterday but had some good fun early in the afternoon, little bit late at night after I woke but was pretty empty (to be expected).

Hamham.7504:

Neandramathal.9536:

and Fissure are just jelly that Vabbi are red, there I said it!

Pfft, as if! W-w-w-why would we be jelly of that!?
…
…..

Secretly yes QQ </3

We’re a lovely raspberry jelly, you’re a horrible lime one!

Hamham.7504:

Whiteside Ridge and Vabbi, espcially Vabbi, are all jelly that MY milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. You know what they say, if you can take the heat better put that milkshake in the fridge.

and Fissure are just jelly that Vabbi are red, there I said it!

Been an enjoyable night, started out a bit iffy with EB being somewhat crowded, but after shifting to the BL the evening became much more fun

An absolute blast at WSR Garrison, although we are a bit curious why you went up ontop of the lord and built siege o.O Still, lots of fun thank you for the evening.

@ The asura thief from [WTI] – Regardless of my feelings about Dagger/Pistol builds on the thief, you played very well, shame I couldn’t ditch aggro from the lord to fight after you’d dispatched all the others but it was fun fighting you

Same issue again today :/

Character gets into WvW, but cannot cast abilities and eventually disconnects. All other characters are fine.

kerona.3465:

I’m convinced all the anti-GvG people are casual WvWers who only play once or twice a week. They clearly have no idea how often the GvG guilds play.

Personally I’m not anti nor pro GvG, I don’t care if people do it as it doesn’t affect me in game. What I dislike is the “me me me me me” attitude that occurs, livestreams and forums being spammed with ‘GvG’ and refusal to accept that it isn’t in the games design. That’s annoying enough, but then to insist other people not occupy the same space, and complain that someone was in the way (the fact he was from ANet doesn’t really matter) is silly. A thread about someone interfering with GvG in a game that doesn’t endorse it is a bit pointless.

I agree he should not have used his tag though.

Samhayn.2385:

kerona.3465:

I’m convinced all the anti-GvG people are casual WvWers who only play once or twice a week. They clearly have no idea how often the GvG guilds play.

is this the same group of people who tell havoc groups that spvp is -> that way? I’m just wondering since I have seen gvg vids linked in the SIG of a few people who have told me that small group combat as no place in wvw.

not saying it was you at all. Just that I think gvg may need to work on its PR a bit.

+1

Kai.9182:

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

Do you own/rent the space in which you are doing it? If so then there is no need to ‘secure’ it. However with these GvG’s you have no extra ownership over the space you are occupying than anyone else present. If you don’t want people there you kill them or move elsewhere.

You have no right to tell people where they can and can’t go, no matter where you are holding this event.

So if I blow a horn outside your house on public property within the legal hours you won’t mind?

If it is within the law. I can object to it all I want but unless the police deem it worth doing something about, I can do nothing. However this bears no relation to what has happened here.

You see, this, no matter how attached to it you may feel, is a game. The rules are different in this place, and as long as what you do is within the terms and conditions aka laws, no one can stop you. This both means I can’t insist you stop your GvG, and you can’t insist I moves out of the way. However if either side was to have the advantage in the incident that occured, it is his because yours can be pushed into the realm of the T&C/ToS.

The difference with your analogy and the game situation, is that if I don’t like you doing it I can’t come out and shoot you through the face with a shotgun to make you go away, because that would be against the law. However in the game you can go and kill the player who was in the way and voila, problem is solved.

So it’s acceptable for this person to harass a community as long it is within the law?

As long as it’s within the ToS/T&C yes. Not that this would qualify as harassment, he is occupying space, that is all.

Sending him whispers telling him to **** off etc however would come much closer to harassment than what he was doing.

Kai.9182:

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

Do you own/rent the space in which you are doing it? If so then there is no need to ‘secure’ it. However with these GvG’s you have no extra ownership over the space you are occupying than anyone else present. If you don’t want people there you kill them or move elsewhere.

You have no right to tell people where they can and can’t go, no matter where you are holding this event.

So if I blow a horn outside your house on public property within the legal hours you won’t mind?

If it is within the law. I can object to it all I want but unless the police deem it worth doing something about, I can do nothing. However this bears no relation to what has happened here.

You see, this, no matter how attached to it you may feel, is a game. The rules are different in this place, and as long as what you do is within the terms and conditions aka laws, no one can stop you. This both means I can’t insist you stop your GvG, and you can’t insist I moves out of the way. However if either side was to have the advantage in the incident that occured, it is his because yours can be pushed into the realm of the T&C/ToS.

The difference with your analogy and the game situation, is that if I don’t like you doing it I can’t come out and shoot you through the face with a shotgun to make you go away, because that would be against the law. However in the game you can go and kill the player who was in the way and voila, problem is solved.

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

Do you own/rent the space in which you are doing it? If so then there is no need to ‘secure’ it. However with these GvG’s you have no extra ownership over the space you are occupying than anyone else present. If you don’t want people there you kill them or move elsewhere.

You have no right to tell people where they can and can’t go, no matter where you are holding this event.

Kai.9182:

These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

Yes, they weren’t hurting anybody. I agree.

However that still doesn’t mean you can complain about someone else being there, that’s the point I’m making.

Okaishi.8320:

Neandramathal.9536:

Maybe I’ll organise a community even for me and 4 friends to cap everything on every map, and then object to every player who get’s in the way?

Because that’s completely the same as doing organized skirmishes in a strategically unimportant area.

The comment made was “Interrupting a community event”, what dictates that one part of the community and/or their events is any more important than any other?

I agree, that what I suggested would affect WvW far more than having a GvG and complaints about it would be idiotic. But that’s the point, complaining someone was in the way of ANY WvW “event” is ridiculous.

Kai.9182:

Neandramathal.9536:

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Hi All,

I wanted to comment about the incident that happened recently in-game, surrounding some negative community interaction from a member of the ArenaNet staff.

Simply put a big mistake was made by one of our employees, for which he is both very upset and sorry. He allowed his personal feelings to affect his interactions in-game whilst representing ArenaNet, and this is absolutely unacceptable.

Like all players, we are human, and all have our opinions on the game. However these opinions should never disrupt other player’s enjoyment of the things they love. On top of this we have worked very hard to create a community that is respectful to one another, and for this behavior to have occurred while a developer is representing ArenaNet is doubly saddening.

We all cherish the opportunity to play with the community, and we absolutely rely on you all for in game feedback, and personally I hope that this incident does not hamper what has so far been an amazing relationship and opportunity for us all.

I would therefore like to sincerely apologize for this behavior on behalf of our staff member. We are taking steps to address the incident and for his part, he is very sorry for behaving in the manner in which he did.

Regarding Guild game play, please understand it is extremely important to us, and an area we are paying a great deal of attention to, so please do be patient with the developers who work tirelessly on making WvW the very best it can be, they have a great deal of respect for you all, and value your collaboration in pushing this pioneering mode forward. Also please note this member of staff is not on the WvW team.

Finally, World vs. World is a free-for-all battle. Our expectation of staff is that they should be playing, and enjoying the game like everyone else, and not being disruptive or disrespectful to others.

And in this spirit I hope we can move forward, and continue, what has up to this point, been a great community/developer relationship. One that I know our team massively values and loves.

Thank you all for your time and i hope you have a lovely weekend,

ChrisW

I’m sure that the majority of other people in this thread will NOT share my sentiment, but meh.

I’m actually more disappointed that you have apologised than for the initial action itself – whilst “Violating my game mode” was a bit of a silly statement, the staff member had not actually done anything wrong at all. He was simply in a place where there were several other players gathered – that isn’t trolling or griefing in any way at all. He may not have been exactly where they wanted, but then when someone is manning a piece of siege that I want to use the same could be said.

The players were rude and aggressive simply because of his location, so they were in the wrong not him. This could/does happen to any number of players frequently.

Is it the best idea for a member of staff to get involved? probably not. But it’s good that if there is a firm decision it should be shown. The fact that people bought the game despite the game mode being well advertised and written about (PPT and all other stuff included) yet still a year later complain that that’s how it is – if they don’t like that sort of thing why buy it to begin with – this whole thing is idiotic.

Again, somewhat disappointed that there was felt a need to apologise, although I can understand why from a business p.o.v.

The fact of the matter was that this employee was intentionally disturbing a community event. Whether it had been in a PvE zone or in sPvP wouldn’t have mattered. The communities intentions were more than clear, and this person went out of their way to interrupt them.

Red = Dead, and you can stand wherever you want.

If the community decides it wants an event of 50 people roleplay walking across a WvW zone in town clothes they can do that too, and if someone else decides they want to come with 80 and slaughter it they can also do that – and no one can complain it was “interrupting an event”.

Maybe I’ll organise a community even for me and 4 friends to cap everything on every map, and then object to every player who get’s in the way?

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Hi All,

I wanted to comment about the incident that happened recently in-game, surrounding some negative community interaction from a member of the ArenaNet staff.

Simply put a big mistake was made by one of our employees, for which he is both very upset and sorry. He allowed his personal feelings to affect his interactions in-game whilst representing ArenaNet, and this is absolutely unacceptable.

Like all players, we are human, and all have our opinions on the game. However these opinions should never disrupt other player’s enjoyment of the things they love. On top of this we have worked very hard to create a community that is respectful to one another, and for this behavior to have occurred while a developer is representing ArenaNet is doubly saddening.

We all cherish the opportunity to play with the community, and we absolutely rely on you all for in game feedback, and personally I hope that this incident does not hamper what has so far been an amazing relationship and opportunity for us all.

I would therefore like to sincerely apologize for this behavior on behalf of our staff member. We are taking steps to address the incident and for his part, he is very sorry for behaving in the manner in which he did.

Regarding Guild game play, please understand it is extremely important to us, and an area we are paying a great deal of attention to, so please do be patient with the developers who work tirelessly on making WvW the very best it can be, they have a great deal of respect for you all, and value your collaboration in pushing this pioneering mode forward. Also please note this member of staff is not on the WvW team.

Finally, World vs. World is a free-for-all battle. Our expectation of staff is that they should be playing, and enjoying the game like everyone else, and not being disruptive or disrespectful to others.

And in this spirit I hope we can move forward, and continue, what has up to this point, been a great community/developer relationship. One that I know our team massively values and loves.

Thank you all for your time and i hope you have a lovely weekend,

ChrisW

I’m sure that the majority of other people in this thread will NOT share my sentiment, but meh.

I’m actually more disappointed that you have apologised than for the initial action itself – whilst “Violating my game mode” was a bit of a silly statement, the staff member had not actually done anything wrong at all. He was simply in a place where there were several other players gathered – that isn’t trolling or griefing in any way at all. He may not have been exactly where they wanted, but then when someone is manning a piece of siege that I want to use the same could be said.

The players were rude and aggressive simply because of his location, so they were in the wrong not him. This could/does happen to any number of players frequently.

Is it the best idea for a member of staff to get involved? probably not. But it’s good that if there is a firm decision it should be shown. The fact that people bought the game despite the game mode being well advertised and written about (PPT and all other stuff included) yet still a year later complain that that’s how it is – if they don’t like that sort of thing why buy it to begin with – this whole thing is idiotic.

Again, somewhat disappointed that there was felt a need to apologise, although I can understand why from a business p.o.v.

I don’t think I’ve ever actually agreed with you before, Preacher. Even right back to beta on the guru forums. But here I think you’re being pretty kitten accurate.

The fact people are describing him as “Trolling the GvG” because he stood in a certain spot, is hilarious. Saying he was disrespectful and being a jerk in those screenshots – it’s interesting how quickly people forget the comments that were whispered to the dev before they knew who he was.

As for posts about PPT being “meaningless” – in the context of it’s not real life, they are meaningless. But they are meaningful as long as anyone has interest in them, and several people still do. Hell if the reason claimed for GvGing was that the PPT was too high due to imbalance, then perhaps that’s the fault of community objecting to ‘repetitive matchups’, the entire reason they were repetitive was because they were as balanced as could be.

Players stack servers, players create queues, players create imbalance (other than class related ones).

This thread is hilarious, and I commend the dev. Not because I dislike GvG (couldn’t give a crap about it though), but because I think dev’s need to be straight with people and just say “We aren’t doing it, get over it” rather than trying to be cautious.

war.3790:

I would like all PPT warriors and other kittens who care about WvW score and upgrading keeps to leave this post, and dont post at all . (Wish you could leave WvW too ,but oh well) .

So anyone who enjoys the game mode for how it was designed should stop playing it and GTFO? Good logic.

Vabbi will have a league of their own, the “Thanks for turning up” league (like a participation trophy!)

Some good small fights very late on, the odd little enjoyable 1v1/1v2 very very late on. That FoW reset zerg was pretty nasty!! WSR’s wasn’t exactly small either. Poor Mendon’s never stood a chance ;‘( Where will we have our picnic’s now!!!

Can’t play for most the weekend so let’s see what the week holds, fingers crossed with lot’s of manageable sized enemies :P

DavidTurner.3095:

I seem to be encountering a similar issue, but it seems to be affecting my whole account. I’ve just redownloaded my .dat file for the game, and deleted my local account .dat file as well, with no luck.

My issue seems to be that after waiting a short while and then I hear music and what sounds like waves. And it just hangs there in a loading screen with that sound effects.

Really unenjoyable to experience it.

Yes the sound effects occur as well, occasionally there is a point where it seems to load me into an intermediate state/place – on a cliff in the north for EB and near the ruins for BL’s – then back onto loading screen again. That’s normally where the sound effects begin for me.

I’ve been trying to enter World vs World on one of my characters tonight, and it either hangs on the loading screen entirely or connects me and then refuses to take and commands (can’t move/cast) before disconnecting.

All other characters on my account are able to enter fine – quickly and without issue -but on the one character this occurs regardless of which of the 4 World vs World zones I attempt to join. This happened a few weeks ago but went away fairly quickly so I didn’t think anything further.

I’ve tried restarting my internet connection and restarting the game, it is only this one character that has the issue – and is currently the character I am maining in world vs world much to my dismay. Just in case, I have tried moving to another zone before entering

EDIT: Wasn’t sure if this should go in bugs or account issues, apologies if this is the wrong place.

Nubu.6148:

Neandramathal.9536:

Iavra.8510:

I’m never on our homelands mainly because of us blobbing. You will see me running solo most of the time, sometimes running with other BNF but rarely in a full group.

Complete noobs too so I heard, Nubu especially!

Ill beat ur kitten !

I dunno… Rythern is a pretty fat kitten after all!

Wednesday night’s footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s5a6WussOk
I’m getting behind, slow upload speed and too busy playing to edit/render/upload!

Now Jathres is ahead of me and all the uploads will end up being different camera’s of the same fights :P Swine!

Iavra.8510:

I’m never on our homelands mainly because of us blobbing. You will see me running solo most of the time, sometimes running with other BNF but rarely in a full group.

Total lies!! BNF are uber zergers of the biggest zerg-caliber! They never leave spawn without at least 73 to back them up!! :P

Complete noobs too so I heard, Nubu especially!

Leagues start in a week (I think?) so we can fight again soon

Some good fights tonight!
So many times in SM lord room we were so close :‘(
Mendon’s defense vs Whiteside bit later was much fun too!

The problem with your analogy of shorter lines is that in that situation the line/queue being shorter is it’s own reward. You get to what you want/where you’re going faster.

The closest that would equate to WvW is queues for access to a BL, i.e join a lower pop server = shorter queues. Yet this is already the case, and doesn’t happen. And in this regard (other than placing too much faith in players to do the sensible thing) ANet haven’t done anything wrong. That’s literally it.. players want to win more than they want to actually play.

As for players not playing for rewards, in beta every forum was covered in ‘give us reward’ posts and other such things.

This is now a video thread clearly!
Yesterdays clips! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftn7tcdtGdk
Jathres needs to occasionally press 2.

This thread is sooo quiet.

Arborstone still got quite decent numbers it seems, hard to move in EB without being zerged

Reset video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCmEj6laQN0