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Played ~10matches today, all against premade

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I think that big part of complaints regarding matchmaking is related to ignorance and inability.

This happened yesterday, and it for sure wasn’t the first time. The Matchmaking is horrible. Constantly bumping into premades as solo/duo queuers is way more annoying than the queue times.

What is the pic supposed to show? 200 vs 350 with 2 neutral points isnt too bad, especially not on that map which can be won by the lord.

A good premade doing 500 vs 50… now that would be bad.

He was playing against Orange Logo, that’s what he wanted to show with the screenshot.

Played ~10matches today, all against premade

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Solo players hate premades in ranked pvp too… to the point that they automatically quit. It’s probably my biggest pet-peeves… if you can’t stand premades in Ranked PvP then why do Ranked at all? It’s meant to be competitive, not “easy soloq only”. Where’s the competition? I’m jelly of the OP.

There are premades in unranked too. I also see no difference in ranked and unranked, besides the better map pool.

Sure, 5 men premade with voice comms, slamming 5 solos is the true definition of competition.

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Waht's up with match making

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Here are my most recent 5 games and my last ones as well:

Game 1: 500-56 complete joke, they even started to afk → http://imgur.com/oQ3SCnU

Game 2: 129-500 stomped by a full pramade(3+2?) → http://imgur.com/oZxEaOi

Game 3: 399-500 my team was decent, but i was the weakest link. The game wasn’t so close as it seems, we had very low chance of winning → http://imgur.com/QQRCUb2

Game 4: 500-328 the game was onesided, they had very low chance of winning. The score is >300 because they were decaping with the mesmers and the thief → http://i.imgur.com/RH8dKHl.jpg

Game 5: 255-500 it was a stomp. → http://i.imgur.com/HTeRB6J.jpg

Game 6: i rage quited and uninstalled the game.

Waht's up with match making

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If you were so bad compared to your teammates you would be “making” your team lose. So it’s strange that you have 50% winrate.

Here you go(check the attachment):
50% win rate in ranked – i even left the last game.
46% win rate in unranked – i hated courtyard and skyhammer, so i afk/left more often.
I know i am a kittenbag for leaving, but sometimes it’s hard to endure all of the crap that is thrown at me. This is the only game, besides Hearthstone, that frustrates me so much.

The 300-350 thing, as you said, it’s only a feeling.

Probably you’re right, but hell, i have this feeling way too often.

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The rating system in this game is he best one for MMORPGS. If you actually tried rated PvP in the other major MMORPGS I will guarentee you that within an hour you’ll be running back to Guild Wars 2.

What rating system? What are you talking about ? You obviously haven’t played wow(too bad they kittened up the WoD expansion), they have very transparent and skill based rating system.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/pvp/leaderboards/3v3?player=&realm=&faction=&minRating=&maxRating=&specType=all

If the 50% win rate is “forced” then the system isn’t good – e.g. you have a win streak and you’re matched with teams that you have almost zero chance to beat just to bring your win rate back to 50%.

EDIT:
Here is some ranting from thelordhelseth’s perspective(the first 15-20 minutes):
http://www.twitch.tv/thelordhelseth/v/4293927

Ehhh, as far as I know, in any “rating”, if you have a win streak, you will be “even out” by putting you against better players. Therefore, you will start losing frequently because the skill level is superior. Because you had a win streak against the supposedly same level of skill as yours. So we can say that every game with rating give you a “forced” 50%.

Slightly better – yes, stomping better – no.

Up to about rank 20, i was playing with other rabbits and deers – they were as bad and as inexperienced as i was and the games were fun(regardless of winning or losing) and i was wondering why people are complaining about the matchmaking, but…

After that the things started to get ugly – i started to see phoenix and dragon finishers more often and people with reaper and legendary champion titles, but i was a dolyak with less than 100 games, but hey… i have 50% win rate. Sure, you’ll say that rank != skill, but a player with 1000 games will have a lot more experience than a player with 100 games. I was barely winning any 1vs1 and i started to rage, afk and ragequit(i know, i know, i am a kittener), but hey… i still have 50% win rate.

Even the games that end at 300-350 feel very one sided, the losing team is just delaying the inevitable.
Sure, there are very intense and fun games that end at 480+, but a few good games cannot outweigh the rest of the bullkitten.

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Waht's up with match making

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The rating system in this game is he best one for MMORPGS. If you actually tried rated PvP in the other major MMORPGS I will guarentee you that within an hour you’ll be running back to Guild Wars 2.

What rating system? What are you talking about ? You obviously haven’t played wow(too bad they kittened up the WoD expansion), they have very transparent and skill based rating system.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/pvp/leaderboards/3v3?player=&realm=&faction=&minRating=&maxRating=&specType=all

If the 50% win rate is “forced” then the system isn’t good – e.g. you have a win streak and you’re matched with teams that you have almost zero chance to beat just to bring your win rate back to 50%.

EDIT:
Here is some ranting from thelordhelseth’s perspective(the first 15-20 minutes):
http://www.twitch.tv/thelordhelseth/v/4293927

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WAY too many disconnects mid-match

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Most of the disconnects are actually rage quitting, because it’s too hard to implement leaver penalty.

Waht's up with match making

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Is any way that we can find our MMR?

No, because they want to obfuscate how broken the system is. The more i play gw2, the more i realize that wow(well wod is bad, but new expansion is coming) isn’t so bad after all. It’s sad that Arenanet is just like the rest of the MMORPG developers – they don’t give a kitten about the pvp community.

Wins per map

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The current so called “statistics” are just complete kitten.

Improving Spectator Mode

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Don’t worry in 2 or 3 years from now, we’ll have a proper spectator mode and replay feature!

"Fire"

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So people will take you seriously when you say anything on forums…that would be a valid reason. If you feel like you don’t want to improve then perhaps you should also realize you don’t know enough to discuss profession balance in forums…just saying.

I don’t think i said anything about class balancing, did i ?

"Fire"

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accept the fact you need practice, accept the fact you need room to grow and counter each play, each rotation, each player.

Give me a single reason why should i improve myself ? The game has a lot of issues to be taken seriously(pvp wise) and it’ll get even worse when they implement the leagues.

Need Voice

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smite is a indigent company, i dont need the third party program in my game

Valve DOTA 2and CSGO say hello. It’s true that there are kittens, but you can block them or disable it completely.

It’s easier to integrate an already existing third party solution than developing a VoIP system from scratch.

The fate of the Leaderboard [merged]

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It doesn’t matter, the ranked leaderboards are not active.

Need Voice

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Maybe try TS3 it’s a free download and easy to use. Download and install takes like 3 min max also.

“WITHOUT FORMING A TEAM”

and yes, i agree with the OP.

Pvp Auto Team voice channel?

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Yes. I have experience with it in csgo and dota 2, some people can be really annoying, but
you can disable it completely or block people individually(solves the problem with the trolls).

Anet doesn’t have to reinvent the wheel, they can partner with a third party like Curse and integrate the already existing solution into gw2. But i really doubt they will invest too much into pvp, despite the whole “esports” marketing gimmick.

Petition to seperate ranked to Solo and Team

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This is naive at best. Been here since launch, through every PvP system they have rolled out. Making a Solo Queue will not bring in a swarm of players, no matter how much you want to believe it.

No, but HoT will bring new/returning players and the retention rate is important. It’s pointless arguing with a person that thinks hotjoin is a team game.

Petition to seperate ranked to Solo and Team

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I really doubt they’ll separate the queue, but i one can hope.
IMO, the alternative is implementing in-game voice comms

League format

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Additionally, for those complaining about lack of solo queue, this is a team game! Those who take the time to form teams and practice together deserve to have that advantage..

No, they don’t deserve an advantage. Dota 2, Lol and a lot of other games are also team based, but they have proper solo queues. It’s either team(WoW) or solo(LoL, DotA), you don’t mix them.

I played enough 3s in wow and i know how hard it’s to coordinate with 2 other people, let alone 3 or 4 people – everyone has their own schedule. That’s why i started playing gw2, because i wanted to play at my own pace and queue whenever i want. If i am “forced” to find people to play with, i’ll just quit and i bet i won’t be the only one.

Yesterday, i was destroyed in a game with 5 solo players vs 4+1. While this happens rarely, one or two of those games per day are enough to ruin the fun for me and it’ll be way worse when the leagues are implemented, because losing will actually mater.

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Free to play PvP

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I think it’s a great idea, but i doubt they have the infrastructure to handle the burst of new players.

They can take the wow’s approach – you can level your characters up to level 20 without paying a cent.

League format

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I think the system is well balanced. If you are only going to pvp for the backpack, you’re doing it wrong.

However, if they don’t separate the queue into solo/duo and team queue, all of the efforts will be in vain. Higher divisions will be reserved for teams or players that are boosted.

Heart of Thorns in amazon.com

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the problem is that i can only use my visa in amazon.com … this is why i can’t buy it from guildwars2.com

Why do you have such a restriction ? Is it an amazon gift card ?

there a 25$ fee if i use my visa to buy HoT from the main site but if i bought it from US amazon its only 5$

What kittened up bank do you use ? Why do they charge you when making an online payment ?

Perhaps, creating a paypal account might solve the issue.

Heart of Thorns in amazon.com

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the problem is that i can only use my visa in amazon.com … this is why i can’t buy it from guildwars2.com

Why do you have such a restriction ? Is it an amazon gift card ?

Heart of Thorns in amazon.com

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http://buy.guildwars2.com/store/gw2/en_IE/html/pbPage.heartofthorns
Isn’t that what you’re looking for ? You have to login with your account.

Just a piece of advice: do NOT pre-order, wait until it’s released.

SPVP and locked traits

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Hello,
i bought the game a few days ago and leveled my first character to lvl 22 – at that time, i didn’t know that i can get into spvp even at lvl 1.

The only thing that bugs me are the locked grandmaster traits – i have gold(bought with gems), but i am not sure how to get the SP.
I am not interested in leveling and exploration.

Please excuse me if it’s already asked.

Thank you.