Charr Guardian – Gandara(EU)
“KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOMS”
But but… AG where did you go? We were all excited for our 29 v 50+ and you all ran away!
We had so much love to give…
Dunno i see here 30 v 30
5 Superior Catapults on the sidewall near the Hylek area, we went to resupply, come back and the wall was down. Still we werent spotted yet, because I assume your scouts reported that Stonemist was fine, we were trebbing it for 2 hours, so thats why you assumed the trebuchets had contested it. However, the best part was when we rammed inner without resistance, you guys did not notice it until the X’s appeared in the lordsroom.
I was guessing you would rush SM while our group was trying to nail down FSP, so ran to SM and saw you mid ramming inner, sadly my TS bugged and no one heard me calling out for quite a while. Stupidly i sent the call on teamchat just too late ( min after). Was a good rush on your part, SM is very vulnerable to non orange cross attacks when its in contest mode for so long. We definitely felt like our pants were pulled down as we just finished upgrading it from a long grind with FSP.
I doubt you have to worry about omega rushes every day, from what i understand it was more of a retake on the failed one day before (was not there but know our TS crashed mid of it). I was present in this one as it was just too much lol not to miss.
As to AG rushing UW hills – first of all gj to whoever did that, that waypoint is long overdue and was a sore proof of how hard its to play vs UW defending.
Secondly, you guys rushed AG BL with golems just the night before, could not even get in to defend as had big numbers guarding the entrance gates.
In general there is so much pointless whine about stuff here, blobbing? if anyone from a high tier server was to hear this they would laugh (disregarding EB eb which is the silly BL on any server, especially high populated ones).
AG is one of the best servers to fight vs on the 3 BL’s mainly on primetime, few big guilds many small ones running about trying stuff out, or if very lucky a decent size force following a commander (so rare atm).
Hint to all – it’s called guild wars for a reason if you are wvw’ing outside of a guild structure (be it party or guild raid) you might as well either roll a thief, or continue hugging your arrow cart.
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We were Punk + DW. That’s 40 people max (since we were lower than 20 at DW) too.
Get your facts straight mateOh, and nice zerg at the end
Nice fights anyways.
so FSV and GoT don’t count as well (not even talking about the specific attack on bay alone)? my facts are strait was just giving an example of the organised player massing, why was commending Punk for actually being very discrete at the guild level. Got nothing to be really unhappy about we did very well with our numbers fending off quite a few attacks on bay and briar and we only outnumbered the single guild groups. Anyhow imo all strategies valid besides skill lag level massing, just dunno why AG gotta defend it’s integrity all week just because it’s leading.
UW on their BL has some very feisty siege users, very accurate and good use of siege, 2nd night that we were unable to gain proper foothold over there.
As to @natzmc, only thing AG learned from germean servers is to have tankier builds.
prior to guild primetime events i commanded defending bay on FSP BL vs 3 guild raids + pugs. of the 3 at least Punk had courtesy of testing their own skill and doing good job picking a fight with us south bay, at which point we decided to just brawl with as it was clear you got loads of ppl attacking bay as well. Afterwards we just got washed out entirely by a neverending stream of guildies and pugs at briar.
Over-all this matchup is rather interesting, were all very close “tier” servers with somewhat different approaches to wvw
UW doesn’t even need other servers to start a forum war….
Think you guys could use a good drink, bottoms up!
Fun fights defending FSP garrison tonight, seems like it will be a decent week!
also thanks SWAG for the banner
ROF feeling for you guys this week, EB is always 1 big zerg basicaly on every server and primetime will be heavy load from AG and probably DL too on other maps. I think by now Anet have realized the mixing is too permissive.
AG coming to this match quite boosted after some hard matches vs Millers that tightened server up and perhaps rubbed us off with some brute force “tactics”.
Want to mention out a brilliant move on ROf part on EB this morning as we attacked bravost, he pulled the Grub boss to our siege totally decimating our attack, we were loling and completely impressed, our commander was like “ye, think we lost this one! time to go”.
movement is the most important thing in wvw and a life saver in small scale wvw. we usually run in group size of 5-8 ppl. i remember a few weeks ago we had 11 people online and split up in a group of 5 and one of 6 ppl because we just encountered 40+ zergs or random pugs with max 10-15 ppl which are easily killed with a fixed group of 5 ppl
Well, not having movement is definitely to be avoided in wvw, but 100% needed for roaming. Definitely feeling the pressure as a guardian which has worst, requiring you to teleporting to stray bunnys, chose the wards path personally which fits all types of play. Many ways to play and be relevant in wvw aside from killing pugs, and being mostly invis/invulnerable as many seem to enjoy these days, so roaming builds indeed are back breaking in many cases to allot of other player types, especially the un-organised ones.
If you ain’t at mill area on a BL don’t expect to 1v1 uninterrupted.
Some Buka ranger braved well killing two guys that kept running by our fight, getting grinded down by the 3rd joiner, can’t say i didn’t give him opportunity to run :Pi remember the fight. you were the first guard i encountered. the fight was great and i enjoyed the challenge. hope to meet you again on the battlefield. mayne next time with noone interfering
ps. i dont run from a 1on2 or 1on3, just try to wide the gap a little to recover from damage. the heavy cc gave me the rest at the end
I am always having good fights when [Buka] tag are there bringing the hardcore pvp to wvw. I handle myself quite ok, but i play group build not suiting for the amount of kiting you guys are quite heavily specced for got punished quite a few times for chasing too hard! (though i guess every roamer know’s that first hand)
If you ain’t at mill area on a BL don’t expect to 1v1 uninterrupted.
Some Buka ranger braved well killing two guys that kept running by our fight, getting grinded down by the 3rd joiner, can’t say i didn’t give him opportunity to run :P
Safe to say BOOM was the true winner this match-up
pic for proof
We now merged into DAWN, see ya
thanks for the fights on gunnar-bl this morning. had a lot of fun.
/bow
Dunkelrabe (Buka)
Buka was good fights indeed! you guys kited the hell out of us open field, but in the tower we still got upper hand
As to What other players have been saying regarding the match up, i think people are a bit too late to realize that the big DE/FR servers have basically adopted a very specific way of playing ( and for the sake of this i’ll ignore that they also outnumber us in wvw players too). Yes it can be summed to loads of Ac’s and blobs, but to say it with a bit more appreciation, they have terrific commutation, map movement, scouting, tower defenses. There are actually very good ways to deal with this, more guild raid coverage and solid commanders with tight zergs (for example SFR server) and also removing siege from towers before attacking them. We can call MS abbadons etc really cheesy, but in the end they take wvw much more seriously then us at the server level, so no surprise they win.
P.S
\m/ [BOOM] is in da house \m/
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Meh, this is pretty much what bakes my noodle about WvW, we work hard holding garri on our map against numerous attacks etc. Then AG wait till off peak when I reckon we would have had about 2 people online and come and take it, brilliant!!!
Also to both the other servers, when you out number us not everything else has to be in your favor. You can just attack and not everything has to be in your favor, who knows, you might even like a bit of spontaneity.
Also anet, sort it out. Lake being bugged is frustrating to say the least.
2 would be over-expecting, at hills lord room there was 1GH guy peeking at us and deciding to run off, otherwise no one at sight at keep and so on. Our demolition crew was 4 man strong, so hardly an epic rush too. So far GH has been enjoying far too much the softer hand of the big MS concentrated force, while we can’t get people on enemy BL without rushing back to defend a tower we lose to a rush later anyway. GH enjoyed it so much that while our keep on EB was attacked by MS, GH guys sat in jerrifers and trebbed my flank while we defended. So your upgrade loss on GH BL this morning is my somewhat unimpressive, yet effective answer to that.
Cheers to the Dzag elem from SF and the AG guardian from BOOM for the duel on EB last night even though I didn’t fight.
I was afk near the green spawn area, just out of the reach of the invulnerability spot; when I came back the guardian had used his hammer to knock me back into the invulnerability and gave me a mini lecture about akitteng in dangerous areas. Partied up, played on the marriner’s horns for a bit then a fellow mesmer came by and gave them a really awesome fight. Was watching them go at it for 20 minutes and they couldn’t even touch her. The Dzag and AG were getting a little frustrated but my fellow mes was laughing her butt off.
Then other Dzag and AG peeps came by and spoiled the fun by attacking all of us. Wah wah wahhhh.
Was a good morning.
GH barges in brair gates and goes strait to the lord, DZG rush in behind for the steal, and little me collecting the loot bags.
tyvmAsk about what happened at Dz Hills earlier tonight
Pic or it didin’t happen
GH barges in brair gates and goes strait to the lord, DZG rush in behind for the steal, and little me collecting the loot bags.
tyvm
got this as well 3 times in last 2 hours playing WVW
Good WvW’ing this morning-afternoon on MS border AG VS Ms (+vs awesome TCHU gandarans).
Good lone siege of us on hills did the work, and rids of the dreaded WP for today. We on AG had a blast hope MS had GG too.
Ended loosing it to a very timely and powerful golem rush after countering 4 attempts prior to it.
Thanks to gandaran TCHU for being pesky both on us and mainly MS, every time you picked at them we ran right in to clean up the field, helped much!
Trip you really really missed my hammer did you? in your face that is!
Anet thanks for making WvW more rewarding, very noticeable change
same to me 4 tasks then 6, no prize for the over achiever!
someone hold me please, it hurts, it hurts so much
Oooo flame fight!! gets popcorn
Aha Dius had sooooo much fun with our 12 yesterday. We thought it would be a meh night but in turned into a blast! The epic stand on the Hills wall with 5-6 infantry and remnants of MM supporting us was probably one hell of a highlight that night.
We realize that you be working on guild coordination AG but when we were in Briar and UNTY just got in before we capped it, was it really necessary for the arrow cart xD?
Arrow cart was to my personal request thatthe guys accepted to roll with researching the possibility of quick siege building for big fights (was probably overkill in that situation as we over-numbered) but was fun having you all move back and forward up there.
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I’ll attempt to do some explaining as it seems people don’t see thing as they are. In AG we are focusing during sieges on guild-guild cooperation, makes things nice and easy – one can guard siege, one can go res-supply, and the tactics go on further. Otherwise guilds are roaming on their own – just like on reset, but during the week!
This is the line of bad mood posting, lets try keeping those posts behind this line
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Funny late night fights on AG Garrison tonight.
River golem rush our garrison, get to inner, and wipe as our guys come in for the help call. We afterwards spent at least 20 min chasing 2 sneaky thieves that tried to res what i guess was a mes that did not release in our lord room (though i guess what they really wanted was to just pulling us around for kicks).
Gandara did not stay suckers and came not much after with 2 more golems to our water gate, just as they broke down the gate our arrow carts broke down their golems, most of gandarans died just on gate opening trying to res the downed golem users as they got poured over with oil and arrows.
I’d invite you to come again some time soon, and i am sure you will regardless of the invitation. See you!
Are you talking about FSP or GH ? Because i`m playing on FSP and last i checked FSP was second in this matchup and still doing pretty well, considering the odds (you know, like the fact that AG can outman us in almost every map and that we all know that AG does not really belong in this tier).
I actually think FSP are a good match for us AG, atm we are leading yes, but there are enough decent fights, and servers are able to push and take down upgraded towers from each other. GH just seems to be low on numbers compared to us two servers so it’s also effecting the dynamics, things might change to better or worse now weekend is over, we’ll have to see.
Keep it up boys and girls!
Juggernaut could be improved.
Please Make Juggernaut X2-X3 bigger.
GG
Make love, not war – GvG after party between AG’s UNTY and DZG’s ECL
You guys on the other hand, seem a bit unorganised! I have yet to be steamrolled by a decent guild/group! So far, we seem to face a lot of enemy zergs and such but we break them easily. I’m not here to give you guys golden tips or anything but when half of ya runs away and the other half pushes in, you alrdy lost the battle.
Gandara, when you attack its a very strong push indeed, our server (AG) will most likely improve from fighting vs your level of organisation. And don’t worry, we will be doing our best to get good battles vs you guys along the week, keep an eye open.
good fun week for us all.
I wanted to request info/ a future feature or arrangement for legendary. I recently crafted The Juggernaut, but sadly it does not have the desired stats i need from a weapon, to add to that even if i were to transmutate it was announced that legendary will get buffed to ascended power once those weapons are released.
Over all there is a lack of knowledge on what will happen when, what we can or cannot do statwise to edit legendary without hurting future upgrades, and or if we edit the stats now if the ascended upgrade will even work, reset stat change, or give bonus according to new stats.
Since legendary is.. as good and as hard as it gets, Anet could you allow some more freedom with legendary stat editing? maybe some vendor/item that will allow us to determine the stat combo, seems silly that the legendary cant be as functional as we want it to be. Any intention clarification would be nice too,
thanks
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