Charr Guardian – Gandara(EU)
“KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOMS”
Would like to know a-bit better about how this would work, are current regular infusion slots on ascended items not going to be used anymore for agony resistance?
not to be confused with (infused) items that have the fixed +5 AR which it is clear are going to be changed to a AR slot with +5 in it.
The assault on “Chicken Hen”, 2013.
Also take in to mind the amount of hits per time you get also effects your choice.
rapid damaging weapons like staff, scepter (and sword/greatsword to an extent) benefit more from higher crit damage attached to a good crit, because you are getting more hits in, so statistically you are more likely to reach enough hits to benefit from crit damage going off from crits,
Hammer for example is a weapon i’d focus mostly crit chance, as its a slow 1 time big hitter, you would like to make most of the hits you get in.
Generally, gaurdian outside of pve should focus as much as possible crit chance over damage. in pve maximize whatever floats your boat, mobs don’t dodge.
John, the main problem guardians have at the moment is not lack of damage, it is the inability to build a proper offensive guardian that is not 100% all in burst that can also null conditions. Our condition removal skills either require too heavily trait for them – pure of voice+ shouts, signet mastery +signets , or have all or nothing approaches to them – contemplation of purity and virtue of resolve.
The problem with conditions is they hurt our ability to move around way too much, besides the damage.
I for wvw currently run 3 shouts with pure of voice and soldier runes, as it’s the only reliable way i find to be able to control condition removal actively to be able to bring the fight to my enemy.
If zeal offered a – symbols pulse for condition removal, or radiance offered a passive condition removal or transfer on critical damage.
or every time we blocked we remove a condition
all these stuff can replace renewed justice – or courageous return, which really have little use.
Also to consider torch 5 doing some self cleansing as well, will give it much more viability, maybe even if it did not give condi removal but the same buff you get from contemplation of purity, or condi immunity for skill duration just to the guardian.
and last point to think about, “retreat!”, please, lower base cooldown to 45 – 50 seconds, this as a shout, is way to long for it’s effect, with 20% lower cooldown for shouts and 30% more boon duration you still only get 26/36 second swiftness uptime for 45 seconds.
give us an alternative to staff, or using sword/JI on bunnies to have mobility.
Hammer is prob guardians most versatile wepons, but its accordingly clunky, i think the chain attack is fine, but not made for 1v1’s. the second the fight get more crowded you can easily chain. For pve, hammer definitely underused.
Lower cooldown on the shout “Retreat!” to 45 seconds base for the guardian.
If traited with shout 20% lower cooldown we get 20/36 uptime, and if also have 30% boon duration its 26/36, so its not making guardian in any way a chasing melee machine.
at the moment 60 seconds on retreat make it non usable for any purpose, as a shout its way too long of a wait with low effect to be used with pure of voice or soldier runes.
Deso, the only things that separates gold league servers to silver (and it does the distinction very well thankfully) is the amount of participation server-wide you get in wvw during the whole day. You guys seem too sympathetic to yourselves over loosing a bunch of guilds. Guilds contribution to ppt is minute, absolute best thing a guild can do for their server is take down upgraded properties, timeframe is a limitation in this respect. Deso has a very organised community at large, but the second you lost some guilds, especially your night capping one your community flat out gave up on wvw ppt-wise, tanking or not, that was the situation. AG had 2 points on which it lost at least half of it’s wvw guilds we did not drop anywhere though, our community kept playing as usual. Both deso and AG are huge servers, our pve players stopped playing after they got wvw-meta achievement first week and half, sure we got more participation now, but we are not much of a community driven wvw server, and you guys are. Point being – keep it up, get back to gold league next season, we want kodash back, and don’t forget, Far Shiverpeaks recruiting.
Best of a play week to all
fun stuff at AG bl just now against that mixed group with the dawn guardians and mesm, the unity guardian and the ele from w/e guild I cant recall now, best fights we had in a long time, cheers.
too bad about adds on both sides, but they all melted fast anyway :pthat healing and condition removal was almost impossible to fight against, I’m exhausted, requiring urgent hydration.
cheers <3
We had fun too, since we kept coming back, though fighting vs a dedicated perplexity group is rather annoying. The ele was from CSP, though all of us are actually old buddies from unity.
Queues aside, AG bl tonight was all i hoped for from silver league; awesome guilds running about, getting into wacky fights, even had some 3 ways that were not skill-lag troubled.
Shout out to gandara that i think are really providing good challenge and constant action to all aspects of wvw.
I dont know if it´s the case but it feels like Gandara and AG leave eachother alone, except for the occasional SM takeover, and just go for the few things that FSP has. =P
So you missed the whole day where Gandara owned both keeps and south towers for the large part of the day on AG bl, with a T3 garri cap to top that, while we owned on their bl both keeps and south towers (didin’t even try their garri though). so the question is where were you guys?
WvW atm is complete mess, probably for most population servers with high influx of players to wvw, that before had only small portion wvw regularly.
Are we “blobbing”? yes,
is it fun? when lag is not bad, its a guilty pleasure, definitely helping me finish my karma need for legendary.
hopefully in a week or two max things relax and we see how the dust settles.
And as usual GD (same as last matchup) thanks for the heroes banner!
thought only sfr threads are so bad that everyone should /ignore it but seriously – you guys from Aurora do your best
when you have skillag everywhere than buy better computer and dont whine here – and dont make your problem to our problem – we dont care
you guyz gave elona the hardest reset since weeks and alot on elona thought wow this servers are hard to fight
but dont go the sfr way
thx
Skill lag is not a pc hardware issue, it is a server issue. It is why for example arena-net limited AOE to 5 targets a time only.
It would be nice to have a match-up for a change that AG could potentially win on points. Against these servers we will simply get owned as far as points, and owned as far as coverage outside of primetime.
And countdown to that is 7 days. Then all gold tier servers can bathe in their own lag for 7 weeks.
Gaurdian has the beast healing capability in game, with the dodge roll heals+dual energy sigils, but you need +healing on gear for it.
There is no real problem with the guardian class, it’s really balanced very well, all builds have a clear weakness that can be used against it. other classes sadly, are out of balance. It’s also mainly contributed to the ability to use precision toughness condition damage gear. the equivalent which is not available in game for guardian would be a precision toughness healing gear set, we would be just as op if it existed.
Basics for any player that plays wvw for anything but gank people roaming:
4 ranks in supply Mastery
1 ranks in repair master
1 rank in build mastery
rest is up to preference.
I think anet did quite a good job balancing:
You forget AG is just behind you in servers population and PVE concentration, and currently, we cannot even use our server TS because it is full due to Teq. We have also seen much bigger crashes to our wvw community. The difference being that mid tier is much saner, based on variety, consistency and skill, over the “community of the masses” going on in tier one. Top tier server have been inflated balloons for a long time. Anet sure did not pop any of you guys with the changes, but Desolation as it seems got deflated first.
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We will rebuild, as always. The server’s playerbase is huge meaning that one way or the other the WvW numbers will rise again in the next weeks.
How convenient, sadly seems like this is going to be a reality. Once Deso reach silver its safe to presume their farm community will blossom once again in wvw and will take over the tier.
Desolation guilds – Far Shiverpeaks are recruiting, don’t Easy Mode silver league, balance it out.
Eos? what does this mean?
Silver league is gonna be good times, i know it already.
Big zergs to try and break through from AM, millers and kodash.
Big guild fights AG, GH and Gandara
OMG those pugs so good underworld,
and somewhat lighter entertainments vsfsp and drakkar, mid mid tier is good for me.
Hope desolation dose not sneak their way into our group.
Para stop puking on our lawn
DAWN is a WVW/PVE guild stationed in Aurora Glade EU, with 4-5 raids per week manning 25+ players, GVGs, as well as ongoing wvw roaming groups.
Currently DAWN has 1 raid leader, and a very good one if i might add (Sam Knox). Despite this, the amount of commitment and strain this puts is unhealthy in the long run both to the raid leader and the guild. For the sake of diversity and load sharing we are looking for at least 1 more raid leader to join DAWN and take over raids 2-3 nights a week ( 8pm onward gmt+1). Guild has many experienced playes, and few commanders in training, but in all honestly, we don’t have someone who is innately a command voice spammer with the flare needed.
So, currently, the main thing required is a very vocal and driven person (we use TS/mumble), and good wvw experience (rest can be taught on by sam and guild vets) joining and tagging DAWN to a large extent (its fine to swing off to you roaming guild or pve group whenever)
For any questions, suggestions etc, contact me Oren.1736 or Amelia Knox.9362
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On the cultural side, at least on our server, you flag on, and people start mailing you siege at their own initiative.
On another note: we heard rumors that AG got some new transfers?:D Around 100-180 players or something.
100% no.
Hi peoples, due to some internal changes in the wvw player-base on AG, and the upcoming changes to wvw, i wanted to introduce Aurora Glade to those that might be interested joining us.
I’ll will first open and say that AG is quite satisfactory with the state it has been in last couple of months:
Current big wvw guilds on AG –
VcY, TUP, DAWN, HoB, FIRE, LD, NR, VII, SOTP
Small guild + roaming guilds -
GLAD, cake, CA, UNTY, tort, team, GWSA, slav, BtC, HeH, CSP
I cannot speak for whole server, but in general the spirit of AG is mainly focused on fights and capping, but for the sake of the action mainly, and to a much less extent the PPT. But again, to be clear, we have all faces and notions on AG and they seem to coexist quite fine which sets us solidly near the the end of the mid tier, when compared to other servers.
To sum up roaming guilds and weird hour guilds will definitely find AG an awesome place to join, Primetime is FULL, no real use joining if for that.
See you on the battlefield.
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Nice line of warding, can vizunah please teach me how to do this?
Shout out to the poor sap in the pic, you are the last of 50k players I’ve participated in killing on Aurora Glade. You did not die in vain.
. Vizunah runs in blobs, yes. But they also have some solo and small group roamers as well as guild groups running alone at times. This is something, Elona and Vizunah are better at than e.g. RS or PS right now.
yep we’ve been defending AG this afternoon and the VS roaming groups that keep picking at our north towers and camps were very effective.
@Ste
AG and Vizunah play wvw with very different views. As you said, you play to be top. now i can speak for majority of AG, when i say we mostly play for the game (fights, capturing – as at brings fights), over the total end score.
There are few reasons for this –
1. we don’t have high enough coverage/ wvw players
2. we mostly don’t want such high amount of players, as it brings lags – vizunah is infamous for the lags it creates.
3. top server atm mostly proves you got way more players then other server, and yes organisation is part of it, but it’s not what bring people on AG to play the game.
It’s not that AG on wvw does not have stuff to improve on, as we do, and in many aspect, but getting more players is really not one of them.
Vizunah, you know we have to call this out, hiding in invulnerability spot and building arrow carts just nearby..lol. Come play with us!
Moon, new fighting cap points seems quite fun and makes wvw rather complex if the mechanic works large scale. Otherwise, just very cool terrain areas for roamers and guilds to look for combat.
Buff though will both hurt the reliability of the gvg scene (if buff pops up mid fight), and create a tension between server and guilds.
- Hammer Guardian
- Phantasm or Interrupt Mesmer.
- Thief
- BM Ranger
How is a hammer gaurdian good 1v1?
Can recommend AG, there is a-bit of everything going on here, we are large server but the load of players mostly PVE.
Pretty tight wvw community that is at it’s strongest during primetime with heavy guild presence. other then that during the day we always have good activity on EB, a-bit less on home bl, and not too much on enemy bl. We are quite content with community size atm and would prefer no big influxes , as we just about fill all maps during primetime (with 30 min queues at most), but small teams find it quite fun here, and should especially at the hours you are stating.
Lets say, I´m on Jade Sea and would probably hover around place 5-8, what is stopping me from transferring to Vizunah for the league`s first week, securing top rewards for a 7 week long league, then tranferring back to Jade Sea and rejoin my normal wvw scene?
Still waiting for reply…
Well i am assuming it’s not going to be worth the time you are stuck in other server+ the big amount of gold it would cost you to transfer back and forth from the servers.
Devon, will Gold league players receive better achievements points/final rewards over silver/bronze league winners?
The achievements and achievement points will be exactly the same across the leagues and there will be few, if any, rewards that are different across the leagues. The dolyak stomp is the clearest example. The winners of each league will get a finisher specific to that league. From Gold to Bronze. The rest of the rewards will be more about how you performed in your league, than which league you were in.
Moon i believe this answer in spirit represents how Anet planned out this league system, reward loot will be distinct, but probably not much of a deal for this to be a huge issue. You might end up seeing gold players using this cheese strategy or just moving in advanced back and forth to get a bronze finisher.
Take in mind i guess there are certain questions a rep can and cannot answer – such as sometimes the outcomes of schemes as you suggest, or the second half of my question, which apparently anet thinks is an issue is more up to us to deal with, my speculation hough,
Devon, will Gold league players receive better achievements points/final rewards over silver/bronze league winners?
Community concern is that incentives will be high enough to draw players to transfer up the tiers, killing even more low tier servers, over filling silver tiers with players and so forth for gold. Can you comment on any plans to address community size issues?
I would be happy with all suggestions OP brings up.
known issue, to community and anet.
Arenanet, i am an avid WvW player, i like the wvw game setting on all it’s parts. I like sieging, roaming, commanding, improving my perosnal use with the wvw skills, gvg’s and so on.
Problem is, it’s becoming too hard to actually play wvw in any form lately and i will share why from my prospective as a player on Aurora Glade EU:
These are, in my view the big issues that need to be addressed asap, fixing even 1 will address others drastically too, as they are heavily interconnected.
I feel like i have a very good idea :
Make server matchup elective . Crate a visible leaderboared in the wvw info panel so servers can see their current point placement vs others, as it is now. during the week each wvw player on a server will be able to cast a vote on which 3 servers he would like to meet next week by preference 1st 2nd and 3rd, and this way you can match servers that WANT to fight each other most – by giving preference to servers that picked each other. It will make the concept of waging war against a server more sensible, and help develop an actual community + drive ppl to tranfer to servers that seek similar challenges/playstyles
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This just sucks, obviously Anet has most of the blame for all this unbalancing game mechanics both in PVE vs WVW rewarding and matchup+point mechanics.
BUT
seriously FSP mostly and ROS too, why do u give up so heavily? calling us a blob server and night cappers is irrelevant and situational. It reached the point your getting overloaded by Ag players because we literally have no one to fight elsewhere, mapchat is just ppl asking where the heck they can get some wvw action.
You guys seem to not realise we every other week play servers with double our numbers and although we do have less players joining wvw we still always have fights going on.
Fine, we AG outnumber you, but why not play entierly? at least just draw ~40-50 players to one map and ignore rest of maps.
And to FSP personally, AG few months back lost almost ALL it’s wvw guilds, the commnder +pug community tightened up and new guilds came not long after, mid tier is where wvw is akittens best, least lag less queues more skill, try recruiting from top tier servers.
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Anet pls take this as a leap of faith and keep it! in a cond infested meta what gw2 needs is team players, and who other then guardians to save the world with a proper GM trait for once.
Hey guys,
both Kodash and Abaddon are fighting for every point because the rivalry between the two communities is pretty huge. To be matched with Abaddon (and vice versa) was desired by many over here. Lots of players on both servers did several all nighters to make the difference. Too much zerging, but the atmosphere and overall motivation on Kodash is absolute madness (in an awesome way), guess its the same for Abaddons.
Must look pretty strange for you Auroras, i feel for you. That`s not how it usually is, i really hope you can at least pull a bit of joy, good fights and lots of lootbags out of it. Well, the crazyness will last til reset, wish you best of luck with your next matchup.
Best regards
Only thing that is “pretty strange” to me is why is this a DE/FR trend.. you guys as servers play as if the written word has not reached you, just loads of pasta thrown at a wall hoping to stick, AM does it during day, kodash during the night.
All i care is that AG totally rocked this matchup, defended well our BL and EB during the day with fewer numbers, and completely decimated at primetime on the battlefields and in tower capping (-AM bl for tower capping we could not beat the WP timer on the keeps).
In all honesty, i doubt you will find anyone on AG who sees AM or kodash other than faceless and nameless lootbag spawns, but since that’s your guys mentality for wvw anyhow, should make no difference. yay for community gaming!
I feel same way, got my commander almost a year now, but i hardly flag on, just little patience atm, i still give out advice though.
a piece of advice i can give is to always play with party of friends, and do with them as you want but flagging on, so at least you got your close 5 group to fall back on.
Try fighting Elona then tell me that banner ressing should be nerfed
I’ve seriously never had that much of a problem with it, let alone an hour worth, what you are proposing would mean 1hour is converted into 2 minutes at the very most, which kinda makes it useless as kitten. It benefits every single large group on the map infinitely more than the lower coverage server to remove it or change it. Seeing as this is the first ever post I’ve seen complaining abou the issue, it can’t really be that much of a problem anyway.
If throwing a banner on the lord resets capping progression compared to actually manually resurrecting him which does not, then there is a design flaw that should be fixed to one way, or another, or at least work oppositely, all there is too it.
And ppl were complaining to Anet there is not enough of the living world in WVW, seems to me Kodash and AM play like they are in the queens pavilion, GG.
Now on a serious note, the only redeeming quality for us – AG in this match is that if you guys just mass up to push or deal with us, you of course get smashed by the other mass – for example – AM losing entire BL last night.
check out http://mos.millenium.org/matchups
Gandara and FSP vs Elona reach, compared to AG AM and Kodash
Have no worries, AG has been attracting organised guilds in last months, soon enough we will be farming these pug masses like piken, SFR and desolation, but mid tier scale.
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Just did myself, also with staff – notice the trend,
focused my traits for symbol dmg, size and duration, and also burn on block and aegis removal so it was:
15 0 30 20 5
using the charr skill sharpenel mine, retreat and save yourself.
phase one you really gotta learn how to do it optimally so you finish it asap and with less dmg taken.
phase 2 spam symbol, orb of light asap as the dude hits hard and everything, and autoattack moving circularly around WITHOUT using the back button as that slows you. Don’t be afraid to just use your shelter or renewed focus whenever you are too much mid the mess.
Also used the speed dmg and rejuvenation buffs i got form xp chests, they really allow you more wiggle room.
SO LONG ARENA
Thought i’d comment on this as we were doing most of the poking. For a start we’ve flipped hills a couple of times on our bl but you wake up the next day and its T3 and sieged to the teeth again. The fights at cragtop on sunday we were mostly looking to help tbh as seeing it drop to t1 would help even if you took it.
Happy to admit we did a rubbish job but we’re bloodthirsty kittens and its hard to resist most of the time. When you did flip it we were at the gate cutting off JS reinforcements so we aren’t all badGenerally speaking you have the more fun groups to fight anyway so you tend to get more attention is all. Ag bl is definitely the more popular bl this week, just more fights and less issues with getting cannon or ac fire on your head pretty much everywhere.
Thanks for commenting, it’s nice to get proper feedback on the forums once in a while. And don’t worry, we knew very well the reason we capped at that moment was because you were there, though tbh i thought it was just that in that three-way the universe lucked us out with us being in the tower clearing out and you stuck in the middle blocking the way into tower.
Also to clarify, whether you don’t know, or know and canno’t be bothered to deal with it, every siege can be countered, cannons can be balistad done from safe distance as to most AC’s, though some are tricky and require ele’s and rangers but at that point you would be surprised how far and to the corner you can stick rams from gate, safe from AC aoe from behind the gate. By the end of that night we took down the eastern wall of their garri (though got repaired) then breached the gate, but the ending needs no spoilers, mass death to AC’s, but hey it’s their garrison.
gandara and ag don’t care too much about points, wakeing up without anything is bad but we manage
I hope Ag doesn’t gain too much ranking.For all the Gandakitten ople yesterday night in Js border, stay in your side of the map so we put pressure in both side and we start flipping stuff instead i just take my T0 stuff in south – hill side
Gandar’s first reaction to JS rushing their BL is to bring everyone to AG to cap as much as possible. though worth saying, gandara have been getting the more pressure from JS so far on their BL. Really disappointed in how low the organisation in gandara has become, you guys used to be top notch, now it seems you prefer to third wheel every fight AG takes part of with JS, i really cannot remember a fight with JS that gandara was not poking our sides. JS bl will fall if gandara start pushing it more seriously there at primetime, maybe then they can get rid of that WP in their bl’s hills and have some breathing room.
Anyway, AG, you had some tough defense in this Bay T0. You are already teaching us something and just for that it’s already a good experience. Special shout out to the guy on your treb he is lightning fast for direction change, he really impressed us.
Hope we all have a good week.
ty, had good TS communication and siegemaster skills only a blood legion charr holds.
The fight at bay was good wvw indeed. Our commanders (with community) over-topped themselves.
Shout out to the Coyotes on JS BL for the fights this reset, even though you outnumbered me 5v1 was still as good as it got.
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