Guild Wars 2

@Chopps beserker fully buffed has insane attack too, well above 4.5k. Probably not as high as valkyrie but it’s pretty good imo and great crit too for sustained damage. Not health pool though :P

“6-12k? That’s not even weed level high, please pass the ketamine.” made me lol

Yeah I have full zerker and ascended zerker, at times I do wonder if valkyrie is better for the ranger with the options we have but I have spent too much time/gold on beserker to switch gear for the moment. As for my own experience, posted a pic below of pretty much the max damage I hit with a longbow. I have hit 5.5k on a low level squishy ele once, but nothing above 6k. I think stealth gives rangers a whole new dimension with burst damage. Hitting a target with longbow until they come close, popping #3 on them and then switching to greatsword for a #5 and maul works surprisingly well.

I think that rapid fire does need to be reworked in some manner. It is extremely useful for tracking thieves in stealth, but aside from that there are so many times where I am using rapid fire and people just double roll through the cycle. In my opinion though the longbow is in a good position, considering the fact that they just “reworked” the skill sets. Without changing the skills again I am not sure what else they can do to help improve longbow, aside from increased arrow speed maybe increased damage and the obstructed issues. I wonder what the devs have in mind for longbow ranger and beserker ranger because I am not sure what other direction they can possibly take us in, aside from some sort of overhaul of the class.

Just wondering for those of you still dabbling with beserker gear, how do you feel about our current position and where we should be?

Compared to the last few months I feel the zerker ranger is in the best position it has been in post-quickness nerf, maybe even a better position. #3 on longbow, after getting used to it is extremely useful for barrage as well as another defense increase for survivability. Great sword damage is better than it has been in the past, warhorn #5 and torch #5 is great for a quick 4 stacks of might for additional power, and if running signet builds you can get up to 20 might popping your signets as well. We may not be able to 1 shot people (unless you’re using maul on a glass cannon player) but I do think with 1500 range and a pet we can dish out some great damage and have many ways to mix up fights. One thing that is annoying is using barrage on a zerg, pretty much suicide if they have guardians with retaliation.

This leads me to my question which is your guys opinion on beserker rangers right now, and what you would like to see changed (or kept the same) in the coming updates?

I agree an Ascended pet would be cool not sure what other classes would think of it though. An example could be instead of the juvenile wolf you could find an ascended Dire Wolf, which looks like Eir’s wolf pet.

I am going to be making a beserker longbow, if it is not too much of a grind to make another weapon then I will make a beserker greatsword… I get the impression that personally after making one ascended making more will just be too much of a hassle.

10/10 for armor, just not a fan of the dagger but overall I like it!

30/30/0/10/0 build using full zerker everything I actually killed Strugar first then went for Chomper. Use duel dogs for two knockdowns, a fear, and using lb#4 and gs #5 you have a fair amount of interrupts built into your build. Take note I almost ran out of time trying to kill Chomper in the end, if you kill Struger first then Chomper takes on this fiery dog-beast form and goes super sayan mode pretty much

thanks for the constructive comment ensoriki… go back to your thief forums thank you very much

“Want to know what this profession is? It’s that stubborn old fart living up in the mountains with his trusty sidekick.” stopped reading here lol, maybe that’s what your ranger is but to say that all of us rangers want to be old farts living in the mountains is quite a stretch. Why can’t I be an archer like Legolas when clearly EVERY SINGLE CONCEPT ART FROM THIS GAME HAS BEEN A RANGER WITH A BOW????

http://gw2101.gtm.guildwars2.com/global/includes/images/hero-ranger.jpg <- BOW
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/thumb/b/b7/Ranger_02_concept_art.jpg/350px-Ranger_02_concept_art.jpg <- BOW
http://gw2101.gtm.guildwars2.com/global/includes/images/wallpapers/GW2_RangerWallpaper02_1280x1024.jpg <- BOW
http://www.walltor.com/images/wallpaper/guild-wars-2-ranger-5187.jpg <- BOW

I feel since it is our only aoe attack it should have something that makes it a bit op. Just like devs buffed the ac’s in wvw, when I pop barrage I want people to be like “Oh crud, I gotta move fast” instead of “meh, 1 sec cripple, just roll once and carry on”

I strongly feel barrage should have immobilize instead of cripple. This would really put rangers in a new position. Currently barrrage is a bit underwhelming, and the damage it deals is not insane to begin with (and I’m a full zerker ranger saying this). Changing the cripple to immobilize would really give rangers a huge buff in WvW viability, as well as making barrage and the longbow a weapon a lot more rangers would really want to use. Thoughts?

Okay, real good thread IMO we have a lot of people voicing their opinions and I like that… I guess the next question is, are there any skills we could tweak (blast finisher to maul, change guard, etc etc…) that would give rangers the ability to become a “must have” in large team battles?

I think a great place to start is Maul, that with war horn 5 gives us two great blast finishers we can use with our healing spring… it would let us support our group more instead of just dropping the spring then being done.

Alright, I’ve fed the trolls enough, ty for the laughs guys

LOL OMG you got me guys XD nice, woot yeah #magswag gj guys <3<3

Lol @Zoel, nice cop-out answer… you Mag’s are real good at excuses huh? Scoreboard sure shows it.

BTW saiyr I know you take great pride in being a class act forum troll but in reality you are hurting your server more than helping it. Sure, scoreboard is good, and sure the wins are nice… but your reputation is what really matters at the end of the day and quite frankly Mag has a horrible one. The sad thing is I don’t think you and all the other forum warriors from Mag will ever be able to admit it, since if you all turned around and changed your attitude your server could really benefit from it.

How you act (saiyr) and the image you all have is a perfect example of why you are in the position you are in. Funny thing is, when I logged on today, I had three Mag people pm me after I posted on the forums about you all having a terrible reputation, they all agreed with me and they all said it is a shame Mag is in its current position because of people like yourself being disrespectful. Sure you can act like you voice the opinion of an entire server, but when people from YOUR server felt the need to pm me about your reputation then you know there is some serious issues in Mag. Case closed.

Mag keeps running their mouths, JQ keeps ticking HUGE numbers, GG guys, GG. Just because you win one battle doesn’t mean you win a war, how about you all hop on to TPvP, seems like it would suit your server/guilds much better XD

I understand where everyone is coming from, it seems pretty much healing spring is the unanimous consensus for what we bring to a zerg. Some people offer spirit builds, or shout builds, I can see where that may help some. I am never kicked from a zerg, my point was that if there are already 2+ rangers in a 30 man zerg, do I bring my ranger or do I bring my guardian to help out the zerg? The answer is clear, which is unfortunate because I would have liked the ranger to be more vital to a zerg which they really are not at this point in time. Thanks for the feedback all.

I think I’ve done my job here, cya guys

^^ Sadly no, that is your reputation of yourself, nice try trying to spin it on me though better luck next week buddy

^^ The more you guys talk the more you prove my point, please continue.

^ You are just proving my point, once again, as for the reason why Mag has a (growing) terrible server reputation. You win.

So pretty much, Mag has a bunch of forum warriors getting their few seconds of fame, next week they will be pushed back down to their old match ups but in the meantime they are trying to milk every and any situation for all its worth lol and people wonder why Mag has a horrible server reputation huh? I mean it’s just a game in the end but you could not be complete trolls for people who like to use the forums for things other than QQ. Good try Mag, troll level: 8.5/10.

Thanks for all the feedback, ya sorry about that chopps lol…

Okay, so remember when we used to have guard? That was a skill that made us unique. We need something like that again, something no other class can do. We USED to be the “siege destroyers” and it worked for us. We had great aoe with barrage to hit siege in hard to reach places, and our pets could wreck havoc up top walls.

I want something that will make us unique again… since the bottom line is, if you are a commander, commanding 20 people, and you get to choose your “ideal” zerg, do you even take a ranger? Maybe one, that’s it. I wish our class would/could be the class where commanders are like “okay everyone, guard’s x up, okay now rangers x up… hmm, seems we need more rangers any1 wanna switch to their ranger?” haha that would be cool imo.

I know we are top 2 (us and thieves) for roaming, and small squad combat we really excel in, but once the group number gets over 5 we really start to become irrelevant real fast.

Why the lol Chopps? You are in my server you know what I am talking about haha

What you all said does make sense though rereading it, and I agree with a lot of the comments, I suppose playing a class like a Guardian made me want the ranger to have a role as direct as they do, but I have to understand our role is not as clear, which potentially makes us more useful.

Just to add some more, I guess I am talking about feeling important to a zerg… you know here are some examples:

Commander: “Alright mesmer, drop a portal down to get the rest of our guys up”
“Mesmers, viel please for the zerg on my command”

Commander: “Can necros please put their wells on the door incase the zerg rushes out”

Commander: “Gaurdians, blast finisher and might buffs please”

Commander: “Ele static fields please”

Like when is the last time (if any) that a person has heard a commander have a routine role (that another class cannot do) just for the ranger?

I guess for me it kind of comes down to the “jack of all trades” anet has given us. We are not the best at anything, which hurts us in WvW Zerg. Lets put it this way, when you think of a good-run zerg, what classes do you HAVE to have in there? Ranger really doesn’t come to mind in any situation.

Sure, we have #5 for a nice blast finisher… Gaurdian’s have blast finisher on a 4 sec cd lol.

One thing we do have is nice fury to give to a zerg, but when’s the last time your zerg called for a “fury stack” lol…

And its not like we make up for our lack of a special place in the zerg when it comes to open zerg combat, because everyone knows that is just spam 1 skill and its not like our survivability or damage is better than anyone else.

Sure we have fair fields, nothing compares to an ele being able to put down fields for a zerg though, or a necro putting their fields down, or a guardian’s might stacks or a guardians multiple group heals or a warriors banners or anything else of the matter… (although admittedly we have our healing spring which is amazing, but not always readily available since we gotta heal ourselves too)

One thing I will try and look into is spirits and shouts…

I could list for a while but you all get the point… I love this class so much it is such a fun class, I just wish I felt a bit more important that’s all. I play dungeons, no one wants a ranger… I play WvW, people would rather have me be on my guardian. I mean sure all the solo content is great for a ranger, but where do we fit in with team play? It just feels anything a ranger can do another class can do better and we become unnecessary. I guess it just comes back to the mentality people have about the ranger, sorry for sounding down if I do I don’t mean to be bashing the class, just looking for answers/opinions.

Alright, so I made a guardian and finally got around to level him up… I decked him out in exotic ptv/magi’s gear and joined my guild for some WvW. I am in JQ, so reset night’s and most of the time is pretty much a bunch of zerg warefare. Which isn’t a bad thing necessarily. I guess my point was after playing the guardian for a week in WvW and experiencing that side of team support and zerg warefare, I am left to wonder what the ranger actually gives to a zerg? Necro’s have become very relevant, guardians are huge, mesmers have their role, warriors are huge as well, eles are big, it sort of feels like the medium armor class’ fall short when it comes to Zergs and their roles.

Anyone wanna share their thoughts?

to OP, add me in game “Green Eye of Grenth” I run full zerker wvw and have a lot of fun with it, I’ll help you out the best I can

To add to all of this, the OP touched on a very important note. All things considered (where ranger has been in the past) we are in a pretty good state right now. There are a few builds out there that are nice, and it seems as if the devs are pushing the rangers in the right direction.

All that being said, there is one issue with the ranger that really sucks the fun out if it: its image. The ranger has one of (if not the) worst reputation in the game. Sadly I don’t think this is anything that will ever change, since this image of the ranger has been building up in the GW2 community for such a long time now. Anyone else agree with this?

I’d like to know your stat’s, I run full zerker as well maybe but I have never hit 12k for path of scars… makes me think you’re running valkyrie?

I think Anet’s answer to this a while back is having a bunch of rangers naming their pets and storing the names (data) on the server creates lag? shrugs

lol I can relate to this too well, full zerker I HAVE to use the food that gives you health when you crit, otherwise I will literally down myself when I hit 60 man zerg with barrage…. the heal when crit food helps alot though if you have high crit.

I like the stealth, I think it will take a while to get used to. My biggest issue is how easily my stealth gets broken… Like when I pop barrage then use hunters shot, I lose stealth. Sometimes I feel like I am not even hitting people and I will lose stealth. Also, the fact that you have to hit something to stealth makes the skill a bit difficult. I wish I could just turn and run, instead I turn and go into Oh shi* where’s an ambient rabbit I can quickly hit for stealth*

In general I think they need to fix a few things but I like it.

Hunters shot is amazing now for getting into you own keeps/towers when there is a zerg in your way… pop that stealth, ppl can’t find you and lock onto you and you can just walk right in.

I’ve never had a problem with thieves in wvw, I’m in JQ so idk how it is with other servers and their matchups

I got an ascended ring (PVT one) at level 40

^ tbh longbow rangers are easy to kill a thief with… I run full beserker, got 6 sec no damage, I can knockback, then down them with rapid fire which follows them in stealth. For a beserker ranger this is going to be great to help us dish out damage.

I agree, a big thank you to anet for the changes, nice to see us moving in this sort of direction

Yeah, the stealth is gonna throw a lot of people off especially in wvw, I can see it now… “WTF I was fighting a ranger one on one and they were stealthing like every nine seconds I can’t even hit them while their pet is still hitting me?!?!??!!”

Before 2013 goes, people will be able to have full ascended gear… what do you all think this means for the WvW community and Zerg warfare? I personally feel it could change the game quite a bit, a guild zerg of 15-20 people with full ascended pvt could be just as good as a zerg of 40+pugs wearing exotic gear of varying stats.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/looking-ahead-guild-wars-2-in-2013/

Any one have any thoughts/opinions on this? Personally I am not quite sure what it all means, my one biggest issue is I feel mats are going to skyrocket if they are being used in crafting ascended gear, and its going to end up costing 100g+ just to craft one item.

my mixed set, ranger style

barrage is great for tagging people in zergs, and breaking up small groups attacking a tower… tbh unless one can move while shooting barrage idk if zs will help too much in small skirmishes

I use full zerker, swapped out my longbow traits for sigil-gs oriented build and yeah it’s some real fun, a lot of pre planning for the hit though (pop all sigils, get bloodlust, etc..) but it was nice to see hits above 12k

I love having all the boosts (especially the ones Anet has given out with AP chests), with so many different kinds of boosts I thought it would be nice if there was a collections tab that stored the boosts there themselves, there’s around 12 boosts I think, 3 laureate boosts, and you could store communal fires there too… thoughts?

I would rather not have a rifle tbh, I think the longbow should be the focus of our longrange weapons, adding a rifle in the mix is just going to detract from Anet ever coming around to fix our current weapons…

lick wounds still fails me at times when there is an elevation difference between me and my pet (such as me being on a slanted hill)