Guild Wars 2

Since the quickness nerf, what all have you done? New build? Re-roll? Waiting for the next update?

-I have spent a lot of gold on the ranger class and enjoy the aspect of being a ranged class and the lore that comes with being a ranger, I am just not sure if I want to salvage all my armor and switch builds completely or wait for the update or do something else entirely.

Thanks for any comments all

For me, I am one of the few rangers still using full exotic/ascended beserker gear, so I would rather have my pets being taken down than me. I use duel dogs in wvw, which is helpful because of the knockdowns and cripples. Using lightning reflexes, lb #4, as well as sb #3/4/5 I am able to keep distance between me and my opponent. Different builds, but I would advise switching to dogs which have a lot of interrupt skills built into them which will help keep your pet’s survival up

Longbow:

1. skill changed distance damage-scale
2. quicker action time
   (in an ideal world) all skills have an increased damage

I did notice the “swooping” pun, I enjoyed that

I agree with Sebrent about op, maybe change title :P at least Robert recognizes our existence. I also enjoy the wvw special ops aspect, being able to have a big impact while solo running. That’s why I enjoyed the beserker ranger build

^ that, then quickness, pretty devastating to my old build. I know people say “learn and adapt… there are many other viable ranger builds” but still, I play the game because I want to have the ability to create my “ideal ranger” not to be pushed away or toward a certain play style.

Greatsword has great defense and mobility, #3 is great for keeping with your zerg, catching up to enemies, or escaping enemies, along with #4 which blocks attacks and a #5 stun. I use duel dogs in wvw, they are great (when they work)

I agree, most of the issues with the ranger can only be seen once you start playing wvw and other non pve areas

Instead of a thief getting a nerf I would rather have us get a buff instead, but I agree a good thief you can do very little against

What I took from that is “the ranger’s dps is horrible, thief has great dps and a bunch of cool/unique skills to help execute that”

as far as Robert saying “Thieves need to execute a series of skills in a row, in which at any time the victim has the potential to mitigate or have some sort of play to save themselves or stop the thief.” I mean let’s be real here if you are in wvw and you can lag for one second then that is all it takes for a d/d thief to down a ranger.

To go with the post above about the high damage for Maul, I hit a 10k against a veteran guard with full beserker gear on, where swoop is less than half that damage

I just hope anet is making changes to the longbow soon.

here is just my opinion:

1. quicker casting time, fine with the damage:distance ratio actually, increase damage
2. change skill completely to a kill shot, or quicker casting time
3. fine
4. fine
5. change casting time, or change cripple to immobilize maybe would be nice, barrage is such a hard skill to land unless you’re playing pve or against low level players in wvw

I will admit that the longbow has some serious issues, especially with the quickness nerf I am once again reminded just how slow the shots are. In my opinion if the worst skill on longbow is rapid fire, tbh it is horrible without quickness, they either need to decrease the time it takes to cast that amount of arrows, or change it entirely. I feel changing rapid fire for a pure damage “sniper shot” would greatly increase the viability of the longbow. Barrage has a few issues as well but I agree in general that some changes need to be made. I am talking from a wvw perspective btw.

at this point it is just sad that the pet revive skill STILL does not work all the time, just dueled a thief (both were downed, called my pet away from her to heal me) and lost since my pet stood over me

Invadors armor with shaman’s etched bow, and a white wolf

Well I was just showing my build for anyone interested that’s all :S

Hi all, so a lot of people here (myself included) are angry about the update, I figured I would share what changes I have made to try and keep my build viable.

Armor/sigils/runes all same before and after update:

Armor: beserker
Weapons (before update): lb/sb
Weapons(after update): lb/gs
Runes: scholar
Sigils (before update): lb=bloodlust, sb=sigil of air
Sigils (after update): lb=bloodlust, gs=sigil of rage (possibly going to change)

traits: 30/30/0/10/0

marks: I-X-XI
skirm: I-X-XII
nm: V

Skills (after update): signet of wild, signet of stone, lightning reflex, rampage as one (lightning reflexes switched out for qz)

pets (old): duel cats
pets(new) duel wolves

This build for me is working pretty well in 1v1 wvw, of course I do not have any bursts like I did in the past, but the biggest part of this build is keeping as much distance as long as possible. With all the damage increases my character has (especially 10% increased damage 90% health and above) my goal is to try and stay as far away from my opponent as possible. The duel dogs help with knockdowns, chill, and fear, which all disrupt my opponent. When my opponent gets close i pop #4 on lb and then use lighting reflexes to create a huge gap again between me and my opponent. If they get close again I can use both signets and switch to gs to swoop in and try and deal some big damage with 6 seconds of vulnerability to handle any big hits by opponents.

Just thought I would share what I have been doing with my beserker build after the update, hope it may help some people out

maybe an explanation by the devs as to why quickness was nerfed and how they intend to compensate for the lack of damage would make a lot of rangers on the forum happy until the next update

made me laugh so hard thanks for that

nice build similar to mine, with the quickness nerf though qz imho is no longer viable, right now using muddy terrain or lightning reflexes instead to give me a few seconds to keep my distance

agreed that to make longbow even viable as a weapon, qz is required. Barrage is a joke now, and rapid fire even with qz is slow

^ pretty sure the state of rangers isn’t what the devs meant when they originally wrote “rangers can adapt to any situation”

I like roaming around 1v1ing ppl though, staying in the zerg gets meh after a while

I would think longbow would be the last weapon you would want to use after the quickness nerf

I agree, the worst part is the longbow is just not viable without the previous quickness, the 50% quickness puts the longbow’s attacks where they should be regularly imo

I mean if I didn’t want a bow centered class I would have rolled warrior, but that is good you are enjoying your new build!

gotta be honest, was trying to be optimistic with my beserker build that maybe slower quickness wouldn’t be too bad, just 1v1 some ppl in wvw and I gotta say it is awful

Sadly Anet had no idea how much of an impact a quickness nerf would have on the ranger class, just unfortunate since I, along with so many others, have invested hundreds of hours into this style of play just to have it become obsolete overnight.

story of every ranger beserker’s life right now

Yeah my ranger is done for now too, which is sad since I had invested SO much time and gold into my character with the hope every month that things would be changed.

On a slightly more positive note, guardian seems to be not that bad of a class, so if anyone is thinking of re-rolling that is a nice class to look into, but I might just be done with the game in general for a while

I made a guardian a while back, think its time to shelf the ranger and see if I can focus on him, at this point it isn’t worth investing more time into my ranger build. Sad too, played ranger in gw1 and had no problems with the class.

Not everyone wants to play trapper build or some other build, for us rangers who wanted a dps build from a distance this quickness nerf hurts. Adding one second does not even come close to compensating for the 50% nerf, like I said for those who regularly used qz before the update there will be a huge difference with the new quickness

Just did a quick test, where before I could use qz then get through rapid fire and almost all of barrage in the 4 seconds, now I just make it through rapid fire and start barrage before qz runs out… definitely a huge difference.

can barely get through 4,3,2 lb burst with qz before running out of quickness

I agree 100%, my beserker build was dependent on the quickness especially for the 4,3,2, longbow burst.

With my beserker armor and weapons, along with time spent, I have invested way too much to just walk away from the build, but I agree that the build is definitely weaker now. Most important thing with this build is keeping distance since we cannot down people quick with our kitten bursts anymore

I don’t understand how the warr banners got that huge buff before spirits were even touched, you’d have to be insane to even think about rolling a spirit build in wvw with the condition spirits are in

As a beserker ranger, overall imo this is an average update that if anything hurt me significantly with the quickness nerf, but what i was not expectng much to begin with so oh well

- if you read the patch notes and saw all that was corrected with engineer, that made me frown since if anything i would love to see an update like that for us

I think every playing style has its place in the game, aside from trapper build I personally feel a dps ranger build is the second best option available considering the reliability of pets and spirits at the moment.

agreed needs to be an immediate priority for fixes, cannot tell how many times I have a condition on me, roll away from combat, call my pet over, and it stands over me doing nothing until someone comes along and finishes me off.

My GC build has full exotic beserker armor and trinkets, as well as the rune of scholars. I have sigil of bloodlust on a beserker shortbow, quickly stacks up to 25 power. Sigil of fire is on my beserker longbow, which is my main weapon.

My skills are 30/30/0/10/0, the 10 in nature magic is for a little extra vitality, but more importantly spirit of strength, which gives 5% of vitality as a power bonus.

My skills are healing spring, sigil of signet of stone, signet of the wild, qz, and rampage as one. The pets I use are jaguar and reef drake.

The play style I have been using (in wvw) is mostly get 25 stacks of power, pop rao, signet of wild (which gives a great buff in damage), and pop qz, then unload with knockback, rapid fire, and switch to shortbow to finish the person off. If I get in trouble I can use signet of stone for 6 seconds of no damage, and use the healing spring. With this build I am mostly trying to go for huge buffs then the most damage in the shortest amount of time possible

this is unbelievably amazing

signet of stone’s active affect gives 6 seconds of no damage taken to the ranger’s pets, with 30 traited in marksmanship one can get “signet of the beastmaster” which allows active signet affects to effect the ranger as well. That is how he was able to take 0 damage for such a long time

I agree it is a bit annoying in wvw when I am on a higher elevation and instead of jumping a foot down the pet has to run all the way around to get to the target, I am guessing they are not planning on fixing it though :P

Similar to the engineer post I am trying to put together a ranger only guild, this guild will be a place for rangers to come and go as they please, ask questions in game about rangers, do dungeons, find pets, etc…

The guild name is Lord Of The Rangers [LOTR]

Feel free to email me in game (Green Eye Of Grenth) and I will gladly send anyone who is interested an invite!

The guild was just recently created so there are not too many members at the moment but hopefully people will be interested in joining!

I agree siamoth gives stealth which is an amazing advantage, but for me I have to say jaguar no doubt is the best pet in the game. 6 seconds of stealth is huge especially when the jaguar crits while in stealth mode.

I recently started using reef drake, and I kind of like him too.

“Yes, a guild can have members from any number of worlds. They will be making guild progress (e.g. upgrade and influence) towards their guild only the the world they’re playing in, though, so the influence isn’t shared between the different versions of the guilds in other home worlds. You will share a roster, and chat, and the normal social features with everyone regardless of their home world, though.”

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Talk:Influence

that was online from an anet employee, so based on that chat would not be affected by the server, only guild points.

as far as what the guild is for I am down for anything if we get enough people, orr runs, dungeon runs, pet searching, etc

Hi so the guild is made, having a little bit of a hard time adding some of you, if you could send me an in game email (to Green Eye Of Grenth) telling me you would want to join it would make starting up the guild a lot easier! Thanks, and server doesn’t matter since it is more about a collective group of rangers to talk to.

Well I run lb/sb with 30/30/0/10/0 in my traits, I do great, full exotic beserker gear

well server would not matter too much, the guild is more for people to share information in game, dungeons don’t depend on same servers and people can always do the 24hr in another server if they want to do pve

Yeah that’s kind of what I would like, a Guild of rangers that is open for people to come/go as they like and just know if they ever have questions/want to be around other rangers the guild is open for them. Spread the word and add me in game/message me so I can invite all of you