Like all fights in wvw history, reset night dictates the winner for the week.
It’s pointless to play past Sunday afternoon. And because wvw is played exclusively by North Americans, you can verify that all servers with daytime coverage have a LOT of unemployed people and students skipping class.
What about stay at home parents?
Dean-SoS rally’s around new people. Don’t be afraid to let people know you are new. I’ve seen many a new person being taken under the week of the veterans
I’d say look at
http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/
im pretty sure i asked the bandwagoners to come back to their origional servers. not the people who got treated poorly by their server or the folks who didnt like their server because they didnt serve punch on fridays at the softball game after wvw.
If that last phrase was the type of attitude I saw on my server I would leave too.
Welcome. I can’t set up. But I will post on this too. Or when I am on in about 1 hour I will look for administrators for you also.
http://www.gw2-seaofsorrows.com/?gid=320811&sid=e6e1fd003ff0d8b8db1e55bb3c0e91b6&sso=1373585049
Lol-how far back must they go? When gw2 started-go back to that server?
Come see what an awesome community we have. During the gold season we ended stronger than when we started.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Thank-you-SoS/first#post3319557
BOA smid-you are the exact person I mentioned before saying achievements were good in the long run. We needed the PVE crowd to get a good taste and not be afraid of being afraid. I also think our commander’s were very good communicating to those that came in seeing us getting rolled to relax and have fun-we were in matches that we wouldn’t win-but learn and have fun.
This is how you beat SoS. Get about 10 roamers. Have them agitate the zerg seperately. Each time you run away, 5 SoS will continue to chase for the entirety of the map. Keep this up and the zerg will be reduced to nothing.
Then why didn’t you do it? I’m not seeing it in the score yet.
If servers were separated by time zones and people were able to pick which server they were on when they first started playing the game based on their time zone, then yes this would be a good idea. But the way things are set up now, this would be extremely unfair to people in different time zones. It annoys me too when we fight all day to cap things and people show up at night and take everything while our whole server is sleeping. But the way things are set up now, it would do more harm than good.
What happens when my play time changes? Due to the nature of my job, the time I play in summer versus winter changes. What if I take vacation time that I am at home? Does that mean I would have to pay for server changes each time my play time changes? That would suck.
We look forward to seeing you. Find a guild you like-lots to choose from.
But what if you are a variable shift worker like my brother.
BG, JQ, SoR, SoS, FA are the big oceanic servers. BG probably the biggest for WvW and SoS biggest for PvE.
Does SoS have a good amount of players on for WvW though?
Not in turns of rankings but just the amount of players on.
Yes they do. And a fun bunch they are.
Bloody PVE’rs just want to karma train everything! APs were the worst addition to wvw.
I agree achieves have no place in WvW. I am however incredibly lucky that they got in this time. I never did any WvW before the season and it is now all I want to do. I will be here fighting when the season is over, on teamspeak, running builds as needed and sticking to the commanders tag like glue or roaming with havoc.
So in my opinion, the positive outcome is that there is a influx of new WvWers for after the season. But yes achieves in WvW are sooo bad, if there are anymore they need to be done in like 5 minutes so the queues can unclog again.
I disagree on the achievements. For the less populated servers, it’s an opportunity to get new players in. Just the other day another new person was publicly stating they were new and needed help. I believe it was EP that immediately took them under their wing. I think it is only an inconvenience to a server just about full with wvw guild transfers and is an annoyance to them. But us lower servers don’t mind.
With all due respect, when the season started we were definitely the least stacked and lowest ranked tier 1.
And even around 2am server time this morning, there were no Qs on SoS and JQ BLs. That’s why week 1 is the most memorable foe me because it showed BGs commitment and dedication to wvw despite having the least favorable odds. For many of us, it’s not the prize that we cherish but rather the journey.
My servermate took this screenshot minutes before week 1 leagues started, this was prior to ZD’s joining as well. Regardless, good job on the win, but to state BG wasn’t already stacked couldn’t be further from the truth,
How could that be minutes before week 1 started. It shows the wvw season achievement with 3/15 earned?
Even sbi needs to double team bp with db. During nights both zergs hit bp and don’t hit each other it seems. Db owns a fully upgraded hills and sbi won’t touch anything they own. Poor sports
Why attack a T3 wp’d hills when you can hit a paper bay/garrison that’s worth the same points, and the enemy is distracted? That T3 keep will still be there, exactly the same, afterwards, while the paper bay could get an upgrade and be more difficult to take. Simple tactics, not double teaming.
(Although when we let those 2 DB golems break down the SW garrison gate last night after we wiped the rest of the DB forces there, and protected them from BP defense, that was really funny, and we were laughing so kitten raidcall. – Of course we promptly killed the golems once they got us inside the outer wall.)Yeah we have been taking their stuff. But 2 weeks of fighting sbi’is constant karma trains killed our morale in wvw.
And this is why people transfer to T1. More balance. Better fights at all times. Better competition. Less PvDoor. Morale is higher and is less likely to be hurt.
I’m thinking of moving there myself.
This is what expounds the problem. I would rather quit playing rather than spend money to a T1 server. Have fun with an every shrinking population. One day it will be only three-but maybe with who’s left there won’t be 3 hour queues.
Take a look at SoS. We have a strong community that let guilds play how they want to play. No pressures.
BG have bought SoS, I think that SoR can take this as a compliment that BG are still scared when they are stacked and outnumber us 3:1
Wait. BG bought us. Checking my inventory Where is my gold and precurser? I didn’t get in on the deal.
We would love to have you with our NA crew at SoS. If you are looking for a challenge and will always have a fight join us. The person I could think of to whisper from our NA timeslot would be luvpie.8350 (Fang) if you are looking to chat with someone who has been on SoS for a long time or NyX YO (CNB) if you would like the perspective of one our more recent NA transfers.
Knowing we are the weaker server-why should we make it easier for the stacked server to earn the rewards. I would find it hilarious due to queues and difficulty taking stuff that they win the league and get no reward. Unfortunately human nature wants the not as good short term reward rather than take the time to wait for the richer reward.
I haven’t been on since it started-but from my understanding that if you don’t agree to do it with the larger server they will target you and cover all your exit points. I think map capacity needs to shrink further to deal with too big of servers controlling other server game play
rip JQ garri with almost no resistance
JQ confirmed for PvE server
To be fair, do they really gain a thing by holding it? Ratings don’t matter right now, they get 5 points if they win by 1 point or 400,000, and they have 2 more weeks after this one of the same PvD crap. Maguuma gets JQ for 3 weeks in a row.
Right now they just want to spend the next 3 weeks doing karma trains to clear their queues before they actually have to work for a win.
In other words, they wanted you to take it.
TY for this! Glad someone get’s it
Yet, it’s not just for us, it’s to benefit everyone. I was already working on this topic on day 1 of the Leagues.
I don’t see how it benefits us-only JQ. I say live with the queues and the slow rate of getting achievements since there is not much to take.
Maybe not thoughtful effort phedre but you make them sound easy. Really wvw achieves are a time grind and I think anet balanced it pretty well. It’s hard enough to not be easy but not so hard that guys like me without all the free time still have a shot at doing them.
I don’t have all the free time either. I work 60+ hours a week. Mine were earned this weekend while I even was getting ready for the audit at my work. It was that easy.
@Oliver-you need to come to our server. We like our PVE crowd coming and even put together a WVW training for them today. We tried to spread the word and I hoped they showed. We even pointed out that by learning it may help them get their achievements easier.
I’m happy, I hardly have had any queues and have 6 of 15 lines of the achievement complete.
WTH, we’re somewhat competitive in Oceanic and SEA time….is this real life?
Dont know,keep tossing me bags.
I got a legendary to feed.Doubt you’re getting any, doesn’t look like SoS is playing at all.
Idk, they kept clogging up my bags last night.
But Mag is beating you without even caring about PPT.
I don’t even…
I don’t see Mag beating TC-what scoreboard are you looking at? Maybe that is why mag doesn’t do points-they forget who is who.
We know we won’t hold much or have much in points or won’t win. This frees us up to be that gnat against 1 t1 and drain supply or stop dolys as the other t1 goes for the real points.
That’s just the nature of T1. Your servers are too stacked. No one wants to play against them. All of T1 is going to have constant kitten match ups because the servers are overstacked and #5 & 6 won’t show up at all. Well, Mag might. I dunno. They’re scrappy.
SoS didn’t show up last time it was TC/SoS/SoR, either. I literally didn’t see a single SoS until Friday. Didn’t even see one on reset, although we were on TCBL, I think.
You do realize we dont have enough manpower to fill more than 1.5 maps even during our prime time.
but back to the issue at hand…
Its actually not an SBI guild who wants to move over to SoR, its a magumma guild who does. If magumma goes to silver league that one guild will want to play in gold league and SoR may pay for their way to transfer.
Get facts straight, don’t accuse SBI of doing this to give them some sort of advantage.
We have never bought a guild and never will.
I have a screen print of a SOR guild that was approached for $ to move a guild-should I post?
Wow… I was wondering how we caught up so much overnight. Apparently we were cheating.
To be fair, it’s more like you got into the van with the guy offering you candy.
Except they actually got candy, and not kitten d and murdered. (wow that filter)
This week. What about next week?
We have fought SOR in the past and i thought they acted classier than other T1’s. I now see they are quite despicable. Go Blackgate!!
SoR, you will get a better fight out of Mag then you will out of SBI. I know your trying to help all our SoR fluffers that we have hanging in SBI, but I think the majority of us wanted to earn getting into gold, not given to us.
If your taking advantage of it your complaisant
Its going to make it harder on the server dominating to get those points since there won’t be as many to take snd more people to take them
Oh god, the love from the SoS community is overwhelming, cannot handle this anymore.
Keep crying, won’t fix your scores.
p.s: and the repair fee every time you walk out of spawn.
What repair fee-has been none for me since I am always outmanned. As well as english, learn history. We only dropped to T4
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What exactly did SoS do right now that makes you dislike us? We are a great group of folks.
I wish jq would go back to their own thread. Personally I find the sor people as classier a nd less condescending.
This is what I don’t understand about the T1 servers recent recruitment drives for more people. You’ll spend 4-6 out of the 7 weeks in the league being bored kittenless. People really transfer for some poxy finisher??? Amazing!
Not really true. T1 and T2 can be fun. Its just that fighting a t3 server like SoS is utterly boring.
Also Mag stands to gain from potential recruitment drives if they get into the gold league.
And sos wouldn’t? I love one sided assumptions.
I am glad you had fun. That may be the most unorganized golem rush I have ever seen
Hmm-may have been unorganized, but if so what does that say about the defenders then?
Having some good fights with FA in EBG. Too long of a queue to get back in with an 80 though.
See y’all in the morning. <3
Queue-what’s a queue?
So if DB is legit in it’s dropping, it’ll be a race between SoS and Mags to fill the vacuum. SoS NA isn’t thrilled with the idea of Gold League, but our Aussies are equally disdainful of the tedium Silver League will bring them.
Maguuma’s forum presence seems all for going for the gold, but who knows how their rank and file feel about it. I think they’ll be burnt out at the end of the season; but they will have a fun time in the meanwhile.
It sounds like SoS’s sea/oceanics that want a fight should head to a server around their ranking that has no oceanics at all, but fights servers that have tons. Maybe it starts with an M.
Maybe Maguuma NA should head to SoS
All the wvw basics you guys seem to have just forgot i mean where’s the superior siege and all these other issues what i say take it as you like but in the end im just as much SoS as you and still have an account on the server so its tough to see how much more of a well organised machine SoR is and then i look at SoS and think cmon guys quit kittening around.
Please stop giving these guys advice. I am enjoying all the bags I cam currently getting.
Like Cameron, I played on SOS a long time and loved the server, but the negativity and lack of coordination was too much and made WvW a miserable experience.
He was offering good advice, I hope you don’t take it.
Hmmm-for a person who played on SoS for a long time-I see you posted in other matchup strings but not on SoS? I don’t know where you think the negativity was. Maybe right after the drop but everyone is nice. We have a great and postive group of people who have stepped up leadership.
Yep SoS is filled with PvX players that just give up and stuff. That’s why we just took SoR’s Tier 3 SM and held it for over 3 hours.
Wait a min…
Thanks for your totally constructive criticism but you can keep it to yourself.
How does taking a tier 3 structure in any way negate what he said?
The above statement is a politicians way of changing the focus (comments about flipping). But what he said I havne’t figured out what was the constructive part of the criticism. Is this Tier 1 snobbery that you are not a worthy body if you PVX? The complaining he was referencing I saw when we we dropping out of Tier 1, but was he around for the leadership that has emerged-clearly not. I am not in that leadership group but it is pretty insulting to the people I have seen working hard.
Enough with the “blobbing”. Even SBI blobs (before recent transfers) at times.
What it comes down to, is how much of your “blobs” are organized guilds and are people correctly spec’d for WvW.
Half the problems we have on SoS is we have a good fight going and Zachary “Zerkergear” runs into the fight and insta-dies to give a free rally.
I’m sure it happens on TC and even on SoR once in a while but the percentages of it happening are what really makes the difference in tiers.
This along with a few other issues are what troubles SoS. 1 of the issues, you need to unite all these solo guild tags into 5-6ish main guilds and start getting specced/training properly.
The SoS leadership which is really non existent needs to take control of things and have a plan put in motion which doesnt rely on trying to aquire transfers aka SoS 3.0-4.0.5.0 etc. You need to build and work with what you got whether you want to deny it you’re a tier 2-3 server with an oceanic presence that if unified outnumbers any server period yes even the tier 1 servers keypoint is you’re not unified and have alot of pvx give up type of players filling up your player base.
If you whine about opposing numbers being an issue my prime example Seafarer’s Rest a Medium sized server stopping the hordes of vizunah. Point is it can be done and should be done again more often by any server regardless of tier.
You left SoS when the going got rough-not a leader I guess?
Is it so hard to receive constructive criticism and solutions?
I guess I didn’t see it as constructive but trashing people who like to PvX which includes me (which means I and others like me areless valuable)-
but I didn’t give up and move servers.
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Enough with the “blobbing”. Even SBI blobs (before recent transfers) at times.
What it comes down to, is how much of your “blobs” are organized guilds and are people correctly spec’d for WvW.
Half the problems we have on SoS is we have a good fight going and Zachary “Zerkergear” runs into the fight and insta-dies to give a free rally.
I’m sure it happens on TC and even on SoR once in a while but the percentages of it happening are what really makes the difference in tiers.
This along with a few other issues are what troubles SoS. 1 of the issues, you need to unite all these solo guild tags into 5-6ish main guilds and start getting specced/training properly.
The SoS leadership which is really non existent needs to take control of things and have a plan put in motion which doesnt rely on trying to aquire transfers aka SoS 3.0-4.0.5.0 etc. You need to build and work with what you got whether you want to deny it you’re a tier 2-3 server with an oceanic presence that if unified outnumbers any server period yes even the tier 1 servers keypoint is you’re not unified and have alot of pvx give up type of players filling up your player base.
If you whine about opposing numbers being an issue my prime example Seafarer’s Rest a Medium sized server stopping the hordes of vizunah. Point is it can be done and should be done again more often by any server regardless of tier.
You left SoS when the going got rough-not a leader I guess?
we were trying to T3 and waypoint TC BL garrison lol, got really really close too before we lost it
I hope TC and SoS alike have learned some things so far this week, for better or worse.. just to see whakittens like up here (non condescending).. its what every week of JQ/BG/SoR is .. huge crazy number fights on every map all day every day pretty much
nice to see fresh faces/guilds/tactics out there
keep comin out the rest of the week!
I don’t know what you would want us to learn. SoS was there for quite awhile and I really don’t have the desire to go back. It was so not fun!
Look into SoS. We are a PvX server but have a strong WvW presence.
Thank you DB for bringing the fun to SOS BL tonight. Us oceanics get bored of pvdoor too, so it was refreshing being bummed from all directions at once. Shout out to NNK and AT, you guys field some crazy numbers.
Why are you still on SoS if you tire of PvD?
It’s not PvD against higher ranked servers.
I could be off on this but as far as I know, there is the NA WvW ranking and the EU WvW ranking. These are two entirely different sets of servers. When I hear “Oceanic” it really begs the question “where are you playing from?”.
An example would be people from Australia labeled as ‘oceanic’ and playing on the NA servers.
I’m sorry but being in Australia, there is less of a time difference between the Australian time zones and the European time zones than there is with the North American time zones. Sure, it’s only a 30 minute difference but there is more to it than that.
Keep in mind that when it’s evening/night for NA, it is morning for some of Australia. Which means that when it’s evening/night for Australia, it is morning for NA. However, when it is evening/night for Australia, it is only mid day for Europe.
Due to the Earth’s rotation, and location of the international date line, it simply makes more sense for people from Australia to fall within the European servers.
Mind you this is something that should’ve been done from release.
Now they are about to release in Asia, do they have a third set of servers for Asia?
If so this would basicall split the world stage up into three seperate 8 hour segments. Each segment, therefore, could have an 8 hour “sleep” period with the other two active at that time.
What I think would be better would be the following…
Take NA for example. I’ll exclude Newfoundland as they are 30 min ahead of the rest of NA.
You have;
Atlantic
Eastern
Central
Mountain
PacificIf they did the research and found that the peak time is between the hours of 6 pm and midnight, then it should go as;
At 6pm Eastern time, the WvW opens up for all of NA. At midnight Pacific time, they would close and the score would be locked.
Complain about zergs all you want. We at SoS do the same thing when we are against FA, Dragonbrand, TC, etc.. All we could do is the best we could.
I have joined the ranks of Sea of Sorrows a moment ago. Looking forward to WvW (and PVE) with you all soon.
-Selios (thief/pve)
-Tera Wynn (mesmer/wvw)
Welcome to SoS. Look forward to seeing you on the battlefield