Guild Wars 2

Or teleport to target and then drag then back through the mist

You are so rigjt, but very rare:)

Shadelang.3012:

As far as the ventari utility skills. Im of the mind that all 5 of ventari’s skills should be usable while stunned.

I.E. Ventari doesn’t get stunbreaks But instead can continue to function even while stunned. By moving and utilizing the tome to respond threats.

Your being stunlocked? Move the tablet to you and detonate it to buy you time to get away. Or use it to burst heal you or cleanse condis off you. Or even to stop the arrows of that ranger pew pewing you while your stunned. Thats the kind of gameplay I REALLY want to see from revenant.

It will take more skill than your typical stunbreak. But it leaves the option there and gives you further methods of mitigating effects without simply copying every other pattern out there.

Would depend so much macromanagement and have a high skill celling, but soooo rewarding when it succeded! Yes make it like this!

Stop the increasing in CD.. That is so old! No rather turn up the energy cost. Energy is our ressources, which I thin A-net failed to implement.
We should be able to spam op skills like thieves.. But at the cost of only being able to cast AA if we decide to do this. And if we increase the cost we wont be able to pull out that many abilities. Also lower some of the upkeep cost on the other legends, so we are forced to watch it while spamming abilities, rather than just press it and watch it burn. Some like impossible odds should still have a 5+ upkeep or minimum 5! Cause else it would be way too op. If 5, then 35+ energycost when activated.
Other like the hammer and reflection could just have 4-5 upkeep cost.

It would, imo, make it alot more interesting.

Couldn’t we all just roll Hammer revenants in WvW? Problem solved

gannondorf.7628:

Phoenix the One.4071:

I like it! “behold dragon and hero as one” or something. Or “we must return to the fight” cannot remember what centaur yell. But I find it cool give the profession its flair.

Ventari is actually the legend with less quotes i think. When others legends have three quotes “change, heal and elite” ventari seems to only have quotes for change and elite.

He got one on heal, I am certain that he said something when I summoned the tablet. Just very rare..
And to the Glint thing, well Glint is old to be fair

DeceiverX.8361:

Phoenix the One.4071:

Maybe toughness is bugged.. Well puttinh higher CD is kittentated CD is so clumsy on Rev when we already manage Legendary CD and energy upkeep. We should be more like thief.

Toughness isn’t bugged. Fact of the matter is that most of the new skills released have extremely high coefficients and new traits only ramp them further.

Backstab is notorious for hitting for lots of damage. Fact of the matter is that it’s now not really that strong compared to the new skills.

Example being that CoR’s damage values are higher than backstab. UA on a single target is the equivalent of two backstabs. Gun Flame’s damage is higher than backstab and Berserker alone gives almost 30% more damage modifiers. Gravedigger is a better coefficient than backstab. True Shot is almost 10% better than a backstab.

Consequently, what made stab really hit hard was also a lot of damage modifiers coming into play a pure damage build. A lot of the specs offer similar if not better damage modifiers than what would constitute a “meta” thief build. On the revenant, it’s extremely so.

This skill’s big balance problem is WvW. A huge number of enemies all using this ability wipes massive groups of players instantly at choke points. There’s no point in building siege because CoR does it better. CoR even does better damage than Barrage, which was previously the highest-hitting skill in the game assuming the targets stayed in the field and did not dodge or attempt to mitigate the damage in any way. UA also does more damage, and Barrage has a huge channel/spread damage and more hits to proc retal off of which could easily drop the ranger.

Seige still does more dmg last time I checked, and applies varie conditions. Though you could do that with CoR aswell.
But alot of skills deals more dmg than backstap, but as far as I can see CoR should not be one of them. But thief Vault is very powerful.
I still think they need to increase the energy cost, that would solve alot. The CD? Fine with me tbh, it is the lack of punishment in case of energy that is the main problem.

Well Shiros stunbreaker might be too strong.. Then again Thief got a new 12(traited) stun breaker with block.
That said I am sure that they gonna fix Mallyx, so just hang in there.

Well my thief still does way more dmg than my revenant, so still find it balanced.

Never seen it hit twice, maybe make ppl immune if hit once.. or make the phase into the mist for like 1/2 sec, taking no dmg and not being able to dmg :b

And 10 energy is still too low I think you van spam it five times with five upkeep.. maybe 15.
And still think there should be no CD:)

I love the animation and that it blocks projectiles, reflect would be welcome though… And think the dmg is okay.
But find that revenant is far from finished.. maybe rushed a bit to hit the realease of HOT..
So lets be patience.. there will come some nerfs, maybe buffs, tweaks and then it will be perfect… that said I just love this professin.. lack a few fun stuff, but it is what I wanted the guardian to be.

meepeY.2867:

I used to have loads of issues with Revenant on release. After the PA nerf, they’re a lot more fair to deal with now, however:

My biggest Issues with CoR is that it can hit you twice. There’s no way to know whether it will hit you twice either – it’s a “sweet” spot in the ability. This “feature” will oneshot me 90% of the time. ~5-7k on the first hit and ~8-10k+ on the second.

It also has a 2 second cooldown, which is insane. The bad kind of insane. I believe CoR has the lowest cooldown : highest damage ratio in the game (for a single spell). Whilst it’s not exactly spammable, it’s always available to them if they see an opening to use it.

Now to the people saying “Just strafe out of it”, then you’re obviously suffering from OP Syndrome. Whilst Rev’s/CoR aren’t really OP, saying “strafe out of it nub l2p qq” isn’t a good answer, nor is it a good defence mechanism against it. If I’m inside the 2nd portion range of the skill – you’re too slow to get out of the area. If I’m in the 3rd portion range of the skill, I can just about get out of range, IF and I mean, IF I was already walking in that direction.

To boot, I have pretty bad eye sight, so if we’re fighting on a dark surface I can’t clearly see the particle effects on the floor, which makes dodging the damage a seriously difficult task.

Revenants right now are “okay”… I used to have a big grudge against Unrelenting Assault as it just burnt away dodge rolls but spamming Shortbow 3 seems to do the trick.

CoR right now is not exactly OP, but it could use some balance tweaks. Either, give it a 4s Cooldown like True Shot, double its energy cost or remove its ability to double-hit you.

As a personal change, I would like to see a brighter-easier to see outline for it’s max distance.

Since you bring up the Dmg/CD ratio.. take a look on Vault:)
But double the energy from 5 to 10 would hardly do anything.. at least 15 or 20. that way we would max be able to do 3 CoR before needing to refill our energy.

Well maybe it is too op, maybe not.. lets see what happens in the future.. for all I get from this post is that we all summon up scenarios benefitting our statements, and which in most cases are rare.

And well if it gets nerf, I will outlive it. I just wish the revenant was more like the thief.. would still be different due to legend swap and the way energy works.. but the cd makes it a double punishment. But that is a whole other topic.

And when that happen, you might have missed you chance to get a big hit in.. and he might be standing in melee range taking nearly no dmg.
also if it is a mesmer, he wil evade, guardian will block and thief dodge..

So getting hit by such spell might also show that you are not the most skilled player.. granted range vs range it is very good.. but rangers outrange it. And only when the trait trigger will it bdeal these sick number.. but guess ppl forgot all about DH and moved on to the next nerf-thing..

that said 5 energy is way too low.. make it 25-35.
that said I would like to see removal of CD and increased upkeep through traits.

TheAngryDuckling.5481:

CoR is 100% too strong. Its carrying bad revs atm and they are trying with their all to keep it from getting nerfed.

Or 100% as it should be and punishing bad players?
I honestly don’t find a problem with it other than the whole energy/CD.

Maybe toughness is bugged.. Well puttinh higher CD is kittentated CD is so clumsy on Rev when we already manage Legendary CD and energy upkeep. We should be more like thief.

UnbentMars.9126:

PVT is actually not that bad. Might stacking and permanent fury are your best friend and those combined with the survivability that PVT herald offers and you are doing pretty well

Doing this and zerke acc and rings love the tankiness and stable dmg

PrinceKhaled.5104:

People crying about this skill lol!!
1- Close range combats, it is nothing.
2- Rapid fire rangers cause quite a lot more damage
3- Reapers……. just one word
4- Mesmers burst!
5- Druids hahahhaha

Then you come cry about this skill???

Go 1v1 versus a hammer revenant with any class. See if revenants will win. Again, I am saying hammer revenants.

Completely agree! But to be fair to OP he was not talking about 1v1. 1v1 hammer is way toooo slow.. Wish that it was 1/2 og 3/4 speed.

Well I think it is clumsy, rather have a 10% speed using hammer or something cool like adding flair to it, maybe even something as boring as 15 crit or 10% dmg. 50% great, but well very situational.

What gear and teait setup do you run? I want to test it myself.

Sometimes it does it yeah.. Focus on all the fixes and ignorer nerfs and buff so far.. Cause chances are that you need to rebalance anyway when you have fixed all bugs imo..

Think there will soon be released a big patch with fixes and so, and the new fractals changes.

Adding longer CD? Nsrh rather nerf the dmg.. Why? Because CD as it is already bother me. We got energy cost and CD on most skills.. It is just a bit clumsy at it is.. Energy more like ar thief would be better imo.

I honestly still do not think this skill is that dangerous.. I mean what about rangers insane range? Also the trait is not that great imo.. But again wvw is such a small part of it (1/3), so really hope that they do not balance it after that.. If so give guardians 25% movement speed.

I like it! “behold dragon and hero as one” or something. Or “we must return to the fight” cannot remember what centaur yell. But I find it cool give the profession its flair.

You make it sound so powerful.. Never had an issue with it. That said it might be powerful, but a lot of stuff is unbalanced, still think shatter mesmers e.g. Is more op.
CoR got many restriction, and yeah wild in wvw, but as people stated, they are not gonna balance after that, since it is nearly impossible. My advice is roll a revenant or optimize your graphic setting so you can dodge it (dodge=walk away or block or evade whatever float your boat)

So better wait for a balance patch or something.. at least it gives me time to collect the gear

I bought 5 and got the orichalcium node, so I am happy. Just got five more from a friend of mine, waiting to see what they grants me.

I think you misunderstand my intention.. but well I guess it is a bad idea, even though people don’t get it.

Hmm a Revenant used it on my thief.. he died pretty hard.. well Marauder set ftw
So well not that awesome compared to other things, like dh traps, mesmers shatter etc.

Well my friend plays as Mesmer and is not impressed with my dmg.. do you run Zerker or bunker? For as zerker nearly anything can take you down in no time.

Was thinking that I might try going healer on revenant, cause on paper their heals seems strong and can be done from safety(not staff, the tablet).

Any1 having luck with it? Also having a hard time finding any synergi.. maybe Invoker and Retaliation.

Guess we gonna see a major patch tomorrow then.

Just feel like Herald is a most in most build, and the prob is not wether or not having perma, it is being able to have to different legends and a buff. Though the 50% might prob gonna work ok with sword.
Also for roaming this could be great if you don’t want to change legend.

I see it more like a QoL, since I don’t really need the 50% boon duration most of the times.

Why not? Can you reason it? Cause I think it would be cool if it acted as a support for the other legends this way.

Well hearald would still have access to all of the aswell as the elite, and maybe also exclude the healing.. That means you could change swiftness (which we don’t have), fury (could free a trait tree), might (no need for sword only) or the boon buff.

Cause I see people are talking about trying out other buildes but missing swiftness or CC-break (the fury facet). So if they changed that I see that there might be more build potentials.. might be wrong though, but well like they idea with you being able to have one buff going and not forced to have Glint.

I must really be playing DH wrong. I was kinda disappointed and find my Daredevil and Herald doing more dps.. Though all this whining about DH kinda sparks my interest in my guardian again.

That being said I still think warriors beats guardians in dps and burst.

Not have the pleasure of trying the DragonHunter yet, cause of Daredevil and Herald.
But I find it silly thqt you claim a random knockback with 10 sec cd is better than the rangers.. Yeah we get stability, but I would rather have that on a skill I could control abit better tbh.
The AA dmg, well this is Spvp you talk about?, doesn’t seem worse than Revenant or even the thief tbh.. Might be off here. That being said I do not give 5 cent for Spvp, feels kinda off. I like that they balance it for Spvp and Pve

Also can you maybe put some screenshot or anything to support your claims?

My final thought is that so many people complaims about nearly every class (I lurk in every forums when I get the sparetime) which makes me wonder if the class actually is rather balanced..

May I suggest than when you crash, you get to hold your server spot for at least 5min? So frustrating to having complete the meta event just to get kicked out..
Then when you enter, you have to start all over again.

I want to be able to run two other legends and maybe have perma fury, or whatever.
So guess it is a “yes” to your question.

I thing the f2 ability is very cool and powerful, I would like us to change it though. Like when we change to other legends we can change it to any other facets (maybe beside the elite), so while running Shiro, we got another stunbreaker or swiftnes.. Or maybe might or fury.

I think it would be fun if we could change the facets of F2.
Don’t know if it would be OP though.

1200 range and a shield against projectiles… at least take the hammer with you as back up.

So what if the grandmaster trait in Herald was changed to “Reduce the upkeep cost of active abilities (min. 1)”?
Would you run perma Quickness for hammer time?
Alle the facet of Glint?
or
More hammer time for tanking?

I reckon this would be very OP, just fun to imagine.. we would be left to become group buffer and nothing else though.

Sometimes he yell " we must return to the fight" and something like " We cannot leave the fight"

Waited 72+ hour.. still no gems.. so just bought some.. disappointed, but well what to expect.. should just have bought the ordinary version, but got greedy.

Kurendess.9210:

Riel.2160:

gannondorf.7628:

Nieguen.6235:

So then you are nearly unkillable? Sure.

This. Give me a finger and i want your arm, classic.
Revenant is designed to be weak to condi. If you play it right it’s not a real problem, and it is going to be less when mallyx get some changes. If you can’t play with condi weakness try another class, like engineer, guardian or warrior.

Maybe if you explained what is " right " in your post, it would hold more creditability instead of saying go and reroll another class. Because the way you put it hold nothing good in discussion.

Fact is many people are struggling in PVP with revenant against similarly skilled people with condi builds .

I didn’t played enough of pvp yet to know if revenant have place in high level pvp play or not. The condition weakness while it might be weakness of class might decide if revenant will see high level play or not.

I am not commenting on pvp balance yet because I didn’t played enough but from what I seen is people asking for more condi cleanse or for guide on how to deal with it and people like you just say " reroll " which doesn’t give much confidence in class at all.

I think what he means by “right” is in terms of timing things. Instead of “oh I have some burning and bleeding going on, better use all my resistance” it should be “oh I have some burning and bleeding going on, I will use crystal hibernation and wait it out” and then use resistance for large spikes, resort to heal as last resort.

Full disclosure, I am currently running demon/glint full condi and loving the hell out of it. Been playing for it for 6 days now and honestly, I feel OP at times, but when I look at forums I am totally surprised at all the salty tears.

Back to the topic at hand, using infuse light and crystal hibernation at the appropriate time is by itself very powerful against all damage, even conditions. So while you don’t have a lot of straight up removal, there is a ton of mitigation instead. Now looking at mallyx with demonic defiance spec’d, there is a wealth of more mitigation. As well as quite a substantial heal if you use it when you are suffering from many conditions as well.

As much as I hate to say “l2p”, I think the majority of the issues are that the options available aren’t being properly used by those who complain about it. I have 2v1 against an engy and mesmer in spvp and came out on top multiple times. This obviously doesn’t mean much to anyone on here but from what I can tell I don’t have a ton of issues in dealing with conditions. I can negate them long enough until I have a heal available, even in large engagements.

So which build and gear?:) I went for classic bunker groupbuff build.

A tat faster speed though.. though quickness on demand solves this for awhile.

Give us swiftness, lower the casting time on bow and make the trait synegize abit better… Then I would change back from my revenant to my guardian…
That said, I love the new virtues!

Give this attention!

they talk on the healing skill????

I find the glow awesome.. add character!

but let us toggle it on and off for people like you. Just do not remove it.